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Violence is based. We need to bring back blood feuds as in Albania and dueling. The law is fake and simply an expression of power so we should distill that even further.

>>20011929
>Violence is based.
Only at a removal. Otherwise it's animalistic and best suited to the third world. I'm just wondering if any thinker has referenced this sentiment formally

>What has just been said about the "peace" that dwells at the central point, brings us to another symbolism, namely that of war, to which some allusions have already been made elsewhere. A well-known example of this symbolism isfound in the Bhagavad-Gita ; the battle described in that book represents action in a quite general sense, and in a form suited to the nature and function of the Kshatriyas for whom it is more particularly intended. The battlefield (kshetra) is the domain of action in which the individual develops his possibilities ; it is depicted by the horizontal plane in the geometrical symbolism. Here, the human state is in question, but the same representation could be applied to any other state of manifestation equally subject, either to action properly so called, or at least to change and multiplicity. This conception is not peculiar to the Hindu doctrine, but is also found in the Islamic, for this is the real meaning of "holy war" (jihad). The social and outward application is only secondary, as clearly appears from the fact that it is referred to only as the "lesser holy war", whereas the greater holy war is of a purely inward and spiritual order.

-Rene Guenon, Symbolism of the Cross pg 49

>>20012116
>From whatever aspect and in whatever domain war is envisaged, one may say that the essential reason for its existence is to put a stop to disorder and to restore order. In other terms, it is concerned with the unification of multiplicity by means which belong to the world of multiplicity itself : in this light, and in this light alone, can war be regarded as legitimate. Disorder is in a sense inherent in all manifestation, for manifestation, considered apart from its principle, that is to say as non-unified multiplicity, is nothing but an indefinite series of ruptures of equilibrium. Accordingly if war is understood in this sense, and is not given an exclusively human meaning, it represents a cosmic process whereby what is manifested is re-integrated into the principial unity ; that is why, from the viewpoint of manifestation itself, this reintegration appears as a destruction, and this emerges very clearly from certain aspects of the symbolism of Shiva in the Hindu doctrine

-Rene Guenon, Symbolism of the Cross pg 50

>>20011919
>but violence at a removal is aristocratic
Ah yes. When I think of glow-in-the-dark tranny mutts with generalized anxiety disorder and long Havana Syndrome the very first word that comes to mind is "aristocratic".

>>20012123
>If it be argued that war itself is also a disorder, this is true in a certain respect, and even necessarily true by the very fact that war is waged in the world of manifestation and multiplicity. But it is a disorder intended to balance another disorder, and according to the teaching of the Far Eastern tradition, previously mentioned, it is the sum of all disorders or disequilibriums that constitutes the total order. Furthermore, order only appears when a standpoint is taken that is above multiplicity and from which things are no longer seen in isolation and "distinctively", but in their essential unity. This is the standpoint of reality, for apart from its principle multiplicity has only an illusory existence ; but that illusion, with the disorder inherent in it, endures for every being so long as he has not arrived in a fully effective manner (and not merely theoretically) at this standpoint of the "unity of Existence" (Wahdat al-wujūd) in all the modes and degrees of universal manifestation.

>Accordingly, the end of war is the establishment of peace, for peace, even taken its most ordinary sense, is ultimately nothing else but order, equilibrium or harmony.

Rene Guenon, Symbolism of the Cross, pg 50