/lit/ - Literature

>>19970962
Anyone read the draft chapters of his philosophy book?

https://rsbakker.wordpress.com/speculative-musings/theory-and-context-2001/here-and-now-draft-of-truth-and-context-introduction-2001/

u-uhm..what the fuck is this bakkerbros? i thought our king was based and red pilled??

>>19971035
>u-uhm..what the fuck is this bakkerbros?
Just Kellhus being Kellhus. The 3000 iq guy can convince you of anything, and turn your personality upside down.

>>19971035
His prose is ass. how can you read this dreck?

>>19971294
>prose
that's dialogue. at least get the terms correct.

>>19971035
>u-uhm..what the fuck is this bakkerbros?
https://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/confessions-of-a-demon/

"For those with no ear for such things, I just come off as a sexist pig. Since traditional chauvinisms are invariably naturalized, or taken as the way things are, I wanted a female protagonist who accepted the fact of her oppression. Moreover, I wanted both her ‘revelation’ and her ‘emancipation’ to be thoroughly tainted, to be mediated, not only by a man, but by a cipher for modernity.
I wanted to show how *nihilism* can actually explain ‘moral progress.’"

>>19971294
You need to understand, Bakker is popular with them because he represents a large audience in reddit: misogynistic writers with bad prose who think self-inserts make for great characters. In essence Bakker is their self-insert in life.

>>19971281
>Just Kellhus being Kellhus. The 3000 iq guy can convince you of anything, and turn your personality upside down.
So, an anime character, but if he was edgy?

>>19971035
He's just trying to convince her she is enlightened so he can fuck her to use her strong plebian womb to produce monstrosity children so he can use one of the abominations to fuck over the Gods so he can threaten them from a state of quasi death trapped in a head on a pole, so he can sap the Gods of being so that he can destroy them so that he can obtain the Absolute and complete the Thousand Gold Thought and become pure absolute being knowing itself, the Solitary God, and become free from causality.

>>19971373
>So, an anime character,
No, a plot device macguffin. The real characters are all the other the POVs around Kellhus. Kellhus is more of a walking catastrophe that sets all the other POVs into motion, a force of nature rather than a person.

>>19971397
So, an anime character that’s a Gary Stu? Those are common by the dozen.

>>19970453
Probably. Same genetics, way more experiencing murdering hordes of Consult Nonmen super sorcerers through cunning and physical power, but he'd get BTFO without a chorea.

>>19971364
>reddit
Obsessed
>>19971447
>Gary Stu
brainlet

>>19972352
Yes, anon, he’s a Gary Stu. It might surprise you, but the series is nothing more than children’s fiction.

>>19972419
It reads like one of those light novels but edgier.

>>19972419
You've got no clue what a Gary Stu is. Kellhus is a villain in the story and is not to be admired. He also fails big time.

>>19972423
Because it is, it’s written for pretentious edgelords.

>>19972431
>it’s written for pretentious edgelords.
I can see why it gain a small following in reddit then.

Reminder that only Bollywood could faithfully adapt Bakker for the screen

>>19972427
Whatever you say, but you know he's the author's self-insert.

>>19971364
>reddit
>misogynistic
What in the name of fuck are you even talking about?

You can seethe about bakker all you like, but you cannot deny that some of his stuff is pure kino.

>>19973032
Terrible.

>>19973061
filtered.

>>19971035
You're going to have to tell me what your definition of based and redpilled is because the excerpt seems unrelated to what you're trying to express.

>>19973358
Women's rights is the opposite of based and red pilled.

>>19973032
he has some good passages, but this is not one of them

>>19973388
The is one of my favorites of the first 2 books i've read so far.

>>19973373
Which part of that do you think is feminist?

>>19973404
>men are controlling women like they are cattle
feminist to the point of cliche

>>19973390
then you’re a typical bakker midwit who’s inpressed by his overwrought descriptions of pulp machismo and le lurid warrior mang dnd bullshit, which is bakker wt his weakest desu

imagine being bakker, writing what you think is an extremely granular and nuanced philosophical treatise-opus-saga, and then realizing that most of your fans are illiterate sff kekboi redditors who are turned mainly by the conan tier head go smashy shit. i’d go off grid and retreat from society too desu ne

>>19973410
>women are the rightfully conquered subjects of men and have no wills of their own
Not feminist in the least.

>>19973420
Okay. Post what you consider "good philosophy" from the first two books.

>>19970962

Won't be long until we get a board just for bakker and bakker accesories.

>>19973424
the part where kellhus elucidates the metagnosis for achamian comes to mind. well it’s not in the first two books but the descriptions of the nonmen mansions and the interior of the ark are bakker at his best imo.

>>19973436
So nothing from the first two books? I haven't gotten that far.

>>19973441
keep going anon

>>19973430
Yeah, it's called reddit. Go back there.

>>19973476
Reddit doesn't give a shit about bakker

>>19971294
>His prose is ass.
No it's not. I've read over a 1000 books so my opinion objectively mogs yours. Were you hoping to fit in with your /lit/ bros by shitting on anything genre or not-classics, my dear lilttle redditor? Did you think offhand comments like this would earn you upboats? I'm afraid you wouldn't know good prose if it broke into your home and raped you in the ass, like that nigger who raped your fat alcoholic mom, resulting in the pitiful arrival into this world of a caramel-skinned, dopey looking goblin known as you. Never talk shit about Bakker in my presence, faggot

that second tetrology is such a slog, I probably won't have the motivation to finish it if the story is unfinished and he can't find a publisher for the last trilogy. Does it have a conclusive ending? What are the chances of No-God being published before Dream of Spring, Door of Stone, and Thorns of Emberlain?

Are you actual Bakker hardcore fans, or just LARPing for the lulz?

>>19972487
>he doesn't know
Akka is his self-insert.

>>19975381
>Bakker hardcore fans
It's called Bakkerchads