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19884679 No.19884679 [Reply] [Original]

Hello /lit/, I struggle with self-confidence and have extremely lower opinion of myself, I read self-help books but realised those are full of bs, I find reading works of philosopher much fruitful and effective.

/lit/ could you please recommend me some philosopher or their works so that I can work on my self-esteem and confidence. I am open to non-philosopher's books too but no self-help bs like Joe Dispenza, Napoleon Hill, Rhonda Bhyrne etc

>> No.19884767

>>19884679
Bump anons

>> No.19884771

KJ"V"

>> No.19884829

>>19884679
Self confidence is gained at the gym and social places, not in books which is the antithesis of it.

>> No.19884831

>>19884679
Pray daily, meditate daily. Have a talk with the creator.

"Prayer is the beginning, middle and end of all good" - St. Francis

>> No.19884833

>>19884679
Waldo Emerson, all his treaties from him

>> No.19884853

Spinoza's Ethics

>> No.19884856

You can't build self-esteem and confidence by knowing more. /lit/ won't help you.
>>>/out/ go camping. Go hiking. Go backpacking. That's where you'll find your spirit of self-reliance, confidence, and self-esteem.

>> No.19884880

>>19884679
The Holy Quran

>> No.19884970

>>19884679
Socialize, be profitably competent at something engaging, and have regular sex with someone you find attractive. Prioritizing philosophizing, meditating, or praying without these barest essentials accounted for almost always amounts to cope.

>> No.19885323

>>19884970
>>19884829

I am thinking of joining gym anons but I am an ugly fuck, I have been callwd ugly to my face multiple times not just by girls but by dudes too

>> No.19885577

>>19884679
Tibetan Book of the Dead and the Nag Hammadi Library will help you forget about this illusory life.

>> No.19885624

>>19885323
Go to /biz/ and trade your way to enough money for plastic surgery.

>> No.19885741

>>19885624
>Go to /biz/ and trade your way to money
lmao

>> No.19885832

>>19885624
Trade my way to bankruptcy? No, thank you
I have accepted the fact that I am a solid 1, will have to play the hand I have been dealt my friend

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>>19885741
>>19885832
That's fine, more lambos for me.

>> No.19886417

>>19886035
monero didn't make you rich
unless you were already rich to begin with

>> No.19886453

>>19885832
Alright im actually somewhat interested. Lets assume your face is ugly as fuck. A solid 1. Whats the rest of you like? Hair, body, teeth, clothes?

>> No.19886493

>>19884679
Self-esteem and confidence come with achievement. It's why Peterdaddy tells you to clean your room. It's why the gym is good too because Iron doesnt lie. Start small and do things that get "completed" in a session. Paint a wall. Fix something in your house that has been bugging you. Cross a road slowly and force the car to stop.
You are so far away from women if you are asking for self help here you may as well forget about them, so your ugliness doesn't matter for the time being.
Read the stoics obvs.

>> No.19886507

>>19886453
Hair - curly
Body - skinny fat
Teeth - a bit misaligned
Clothes - ok but nothing fancy, my goto outfit is bomber jacket, black sweater, jeans and vans old skool

How do I improve anon?

>> No.19886516

>>19886493
I am acyually really really far from women now anon, you are actually really really correct. I am starting gym soon anon, any more advice?

>> No.19886613

>>19886516
How can you look at the unwashed masses, at the armies of NPC and not feel a deep seated sense of uniquess and superiority?

Take that feeling and build on it, dont care what some random stranger thinks because what does it matter?
Dress smart but in a way that fits your style, cut your hair, obviously bath regularly, build your body and become more charismatic over time, revel in your inimitability.
Get some unique and interesting hobbies to pursue, yes ideally earn some sweet money in some way, just live your life to the fullest in the only way you yourself wants to pursue it, get into conversations with people where you are able to emphasize your viewpoints without compromising your stances, and at one point in life you will realize that your appearance doesnt matter (unless you really are buttugly, which I doubt) and that girls will find you appealing and fascinating either way and everything else comes by itself.

tl;dr just bee yourself

>> No.19886644

>>19886516
Keep a training diary. Write what exercise, at what weight, for how many reps. That way in a month you can see you gained Xkg on your deadlift, Ykg on your squat etc. It's a bona fide achievement.

>> No.19886652

>>19884679
Walden + Brothers Karamazov + Iliad worked for me last year

>> No.19886697

>>19886507
Not the anon you've replied to, but your list seems like you're far from a 1. A 1, to me, is misshapen, hideous and causes disgust and discomfort when looking at someone.
>curly hair
Don't see the problem. Probably easy to handle with a visit to the hairdresser
>skinny fat body
Work out, lose body-fat. If you're too self-conscious to go to the gym, get a set of dumbbells or start with calisthenics in the comfort of your home (picrel)
>teeth misaligned
Could be a charming trait. I like crooked teeth, others do, too, if they're Jürgen Vogel-tier misaligned, visit a dentist
>your choice of clothes
Sounds absolutely fine to me. Just take care that they fit you well and that you feel comfortable in them.

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>>19886697
I'm retarded, I forgot the pic I've mentioned. Here it is

>> No.19886750

>>19886507
Let me tell you a story fren. I was at a bar one night chilling with some friends when a girl walks in. Her face was bad. Quite asymmetrical and quite inproportinate. My friends remarked on her looks though i noticed she had a fairly good grasp on how makeup worked so it took off the edge. Anyway this chick took off her coat and bam. Body was a 10/10. She was in a crop top and low riding jeans. Her tits werent large nor was her ass fat but her stomach was amazingly flat and her clothes emphasised her curves. It wasnt long before men were vying for her attention. The last thing i noticed was her mannerisms and mode of speech. Every time she was complimented she would smile slightly and nod. It seemed like she never really believed it. She spoke humbly as well with a feminine cadence that all men find attractive. At the end of the night she left with her friends and my friends went back to talking thrash about her. It confused me considering what i had just seen. It occurred to me later that she didnt have to pay for a single drink that night. The men mogging her were happy to pay. She had maxed out everything else. Her hair, clothes and body were on point and she knew enough about makeup to suppress the worst of her face. She wasnt conceited enough to believe the bullshit that was peddled to her face.

Now people will point out that its easier because shes a woman and thats true but consider it for a moment. The time and effort she put in to change herself from a 2 to a 5. It must have taken years and plenty of bitter experience. Even at that point with men surrounding her she understood that they only wanted to fuck and nothing else. Hence why she went home by herself. The point of all this is to show that attractiveness isnt just about the face. Youre ugly and probably always will be but if your thinking is correct and you work at the rest of it you actually have a fighting chance. If you do nothing youll remain with the dregs at the bottom and make your life intolerable. Try working on the things i mentioned before. Be like that chick and give yourself a fighting chance. What have you got to lose anyway. Go to the gym. Fix your diet. Shower everyday. Get a new haircut. Get a skin routine. Learn some skills. Buy new clothes. Keep reading philosophy and remain humble. Thats my advice anon

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>>19886613
>>19886644
>>19886697
>>19886750

Thank you dear anons for the tip, these are actually really valuable to me. I am implementing these asap

>> No.19887300

>>19886903
Good luck Anon and remember change doesnt come quickly. It takes time but keep moving forward. One step at a time

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>>19884829
Turned off my VPN to second this. Go to the gym immediately. Books don't have all the answers.
>I don't have a car
Take the bus or walk.
>I don't know how to work out
Look up basic exercises for Back/Bi, Chest/Tri, and legs.
>I'm too lazy
Then continue being fat/ugly/self-hating. You don't get to complain about your situation if you're unwilling to do anything to improve it.

>> No.19887533

>>19884679
other people’s opinions have no intrinsic value

>> No.19887557

>>19884679
you suck you're a faggot write a book about how much of a fucking faggot you are

>> No.19888479

bump

>> No.19889353

>>19887557
Sorry but I don't want to be the next Schopenhauer