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They hated him because he told the truth.

A complete liar. Picrel was a huge bestseller in France yet to my knowledge it hasn't been translated to English because the (((psychoanalytic community))) fears criticism.

>>19809785

Forgot to add: the book proves time and time again that psychoanalysis is complete BS, so what did the psychoanalysts do? They said that Onfray is an evil antisemite! That's right: the good old "reductio ad hitlerum" instead of debate.

>>19809718
He was a product of his time, status and class. In general, the higher up the societal stratification the more degenerate the behavior, so naturally the elite - or people close that stature - had far more issues with coomerism than a typical low class individual who still believed in Jesus and values similar to puritanism.

He was "right" if we are to talk Jews, Elite coomers, and other people who are at the upper echelons of society, but he was by no means right about the rest of the people.

>>19809800

More of a product of his community than his time.

Irremediably refuted by MacDonald.

>>19809785
Michel Onfray is a complete hack tho.

>>19809825
I suppose that's true since Jews are basicallly THE Gigacoomers of our time, but I was under impression that other segments of the elite were just as bad - back when we still had some non-jewish elite?

>>19809844

Normally yeah, but the Freud book is great, well-sourced etc.

>>19809767
fpbp

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>AAAAAAA I'M COOOOOOMING AAAAAAAAA ITS COMPLITELY NORMAL TOOOO COOOOOOOOMMM AAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO COOOOOOOM TO MY MOOOOODAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHGGHGH

Yeah. Freud's coomer "Truth".

>>19809798
Hitler was wrong about everything and he only had one testicle

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>>19809987
"Define" wrong please. I'm rather interested

>>19810003
Define you must be 18+ to post here

>>19810026
I accept your concession

>>19809718
A little schizo, but yes. A shame that all you have to do to appear daring and based is to claim that sexual repression drives civilization, something that should be immediately obvious to everyone who lives in or near a city or suburb.

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>>19810068
>frogposter is projecting again

>>19809767
What about his approach that children need to be freed sexually in order to grow up autonomous, which led to things like the "kentler experiment" and other pedophiles abusing children for Freudomarxist ideology?

>>19810056
Coomer take that is totally wrong. Civilization is driven by a struggle for reasources. At the simplest level you can have food as an example; in order for our tribes to survive, we need a place that can provide sustenance, that place is more often than not contested by other tribes which creates conflicts. Conflicts create a need for warrior-creed and a militant society, militant society provides shelter and basic organization etc.

>>19810100
What is the rate of frogposter suicide?

>>19810144
Too high anon, cease your frogposting. We don't want you to die on us.

>>19810056
The absolute state of coomers. Imagine actually thinking that.

>>19810134
No that's jungle. Civilization is about subjugating your instincts

>>19810501
I'm sure that it is, coomer. Keep telling that to yourself if that helps you cope.

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Why do Jews do this?

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You don't understand what civilization means in Freud's language

>>19809718
He got intellect mogged by Jung.

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>>19809798
Did you ever consider that it hasn't been translated to English because no one is interested? We have at least half a dozen English language Freud-bashers already.

>>19810134
>Civilization is driven by a struggle for reasources
Humans do not exist without sex. Sex is one of the most valuable resources and there is a grand struggle for it

>>19810134
how do you explain the rich and totally unproductive spiritual life of tribal people? how does building a ziggurat win the struggle for resources? why does boredom exist at all if life is just a struggle for resources?

>>19810870
it's not a resource it's a mode of production. libido is the resource, the need/desire to fuck isn't pre-exists the act. freud's insight was that the libido represents the resource, the actual act of sex one of the many ways of utilizing it

>>19811207
What that anon meant was having a mate. Mates are resources, not everyone is bound to get one on account of competition.

>>19809718
yes he was very based all hatred against him is just liberal and psychology propaganda

>>19811234
There's always rape.

>>19809825

I am reading a very similar but different book called "The Parting of Ways (psychoanalysis and jewish life)"

It's about Freud and esoteric Judaism. It's worth your while

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>>19809718
Read chapter 8 and 9 in particular.

>>19810124
Reminder that Freud had a Realitätsprinzip, which existed solely to stop conclusions like these. It was basically a placeholder for every element of the psyche which couldn't be explained psychoanalytically (or could perhaps, but would risk compromising moral norms if it were - as it would lead to the conclusion that the superego is something beneficial and not le bad inhibitor of our desires).

>>19810742
The driving force of Jewish tribalism used to be belief - as in religion - and not blood, although this has changed due to our society being bombarded by atheism which got Jews on the board just as well as Christians. According to Jewish religion, being a coomer is bad. There are entire stories like Sodom and Gamorrah that were meant to be guiding principles from which Jews should have never deviated from - unfortunately they did. Ashamed, a lot of them sought to justify it, and that is where Freud came into picture. The entire foundation of Freud's Coomerism is a giant coping mechanism.

TL:DR: Jews were supposed to be better than petty coomers, but they failed and as such they sought a cope via justification that was Freud.

>>19809718
I never had any desire to fuck my mother as a child, nor do I now.

>>19810870
Wrong, humans do not exist without food first and foremost, sex is secondary to survival because if there's not enough food to assure survival off-spring it all may as well be pointless.

>>19811188
The resource problem has been solved - for that particular segment of population (elite), and now they can start deviating to something else like autism. People weren't building Pyramids or Ziggurats due to repressed sexual desire, they were building them because they had a powerful religious and esoteric connection - something quite hard for a typical 21st century coomer to understand.

Similarly the elites of our day are devoid of struggle. Most of them have a lot of money, but true power lies in a very few individuals who keep all others below them on tight leash, at that point degeneracy is probably the only thing that can alleviate boredom. In truth you can start an underground counter culture or find ways to challenge status quo, but most elites are cowards so they choose the path of coomer.

>>19810751
His language is flawed, his worldview faulty and taking them seriously is retarded beyond true deconstruction. All in all he was a deeply ashamed man that sought to justify coomerism as a cope.

>>19812814
You haven't read him, have you?

>>19809987
>and he only had one testicle
umm chuddy.. I'm obliged to correct you: he had the EGG.
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>>19813104
You're too intellectually stunted to understand Freud's demons.

Semi-related, but I'll ask here: I'm trying to read The Interpretation of Dreams, but I'm thinking of quitting. Should I force myself to finish it, read another book by Freud, or just move on to someone like Lacan?

Read his Moses and Monotheism. Then move on to the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.