/lit/ - Literature

Do you mean love? Back in the day the women didn’t have sex with ten to fifteen guys before you met, so it wasn’t as touchy to profess your love and adoration for them.

Legacy of chivalric romance, and women actually worth simping over

>>19602933
Both Dante and Beatrice were married off to people other than each other and Petrarch's Laura was married to another—surely than, these expressions of one's love were not meant to be requited yet they were still made, why?

>>19604341
because Dante didn't care about 4chan schizo incels

>retarded american can't disassociate simping over ethots from appreciating embodiments of the eidetic feminine
fag

>>19602918
christcuckoldry

>>19602918
the whole idea of courtly love is that you love something that you can never reach, and precisely through it being unreachable it becomes more pure/divine. the magic of courtly love dissapears the second its actually cashed in, because it nessesarily loses the purity that constituted the love. close parrallels to religious love towards god obviously.

>>19604488
Except the whole point is that being with God cannot bring disappointment but only be the highest joy one can experience.

>>19604530
yes thats what i said you clown thats how courtly love works.
you get the joy but the distance remains, you cannot fuck the princess and you cannot merge with God.

>>19604534
Except you get to "cash in" your love of God when you go to heaven you jibbering faggot.
Again, that's the entire point, the reward is certain and dissapointment is impossible (cf. with love of a woman).

>>19604534
>you cannot merge with God
you posted cringe bro

>>19604534
>you cannot merge with God
nigga you can't UNmerge with God

>>19604453
Sorry to break it to you but she's fucking Chad, bro; just let it go, you're never gonna get any pussy, anon.

>>19602918
all of the alluded authors were initiates and their writings are not mere works of profane literature

>>19602918
This is going to sound pathetic but when the pandemic was still early I was under the impression that zoom shows you the people who have you pinned and it took all my willpower not to pin my oneitis and behold her beauty

>>19606002
> initiates
> profane
DIE.

>>19602918
>simping
Go back.

>>>19602918 (OP)
>>simping
>Go back.

>>19606010
Kek. I never considered that actually, the closest thing to that for me was getting scared that the professor could read my private messages between me and my buddy, lol; I would have been so fucking embarrassed if what you said was true, because I'm unironically such a fucking creep.
Some faggot logged in though, with a picture from some porno in one of my classes and that class had to shut down because of that; and the same thing happened in another class when some guy logged in with the name "NIGGER", kek.
None of those guys got caught, so I'm pretty sure only the Chinese are able to really spy on you with that app.

Before all human life was consumed by superficial spectacle and nihilistic cynicism it was possible to believe in this concept known as "love".

>>19607860
Simping is poet shit.

Because it wasn't simping, simple as.
Most of these authors and poets were pretty accomplished men by themselves (for the time's standards) that were also married and had kids. The women in their works were mostly idealizations of certain basic ideas about human experience rather than just the really cute waifus wholesome 100. Take Leopardi's Silvia for example, Teresa Fattorini died long before Leopardi started to fiddle with writing and it mostly represents the sheer cruelty of nature and beauty.

>>19607860
Nah that's bullshit. Women were no different back then, they just now have a voice and giving it to them was a mistake.

simping is fine in the era of patriarchy, where upon marriage the male had an immensely greater share of the power.
it is pathetic now because of the complete destruction of patriarchy, and all romantic relationships lend the entire share of power to the female; and additionally the greatest male incentive of relationships has been made freely available outside of relationships due to birth control, prostitution and "slut" culture.

>Simping is... LE BAD
This is pathetic /pol/ shizobabble. The natural order is women outsmarting men. Men use power to get sex, women use sex to get power. Simps are the only ones getting any action.

>>19602918
>Petrarch, Dante, Shakespeare, etc.
Were all nerds lmao. The Chads of the past didn't spend time le writing classics they were busy conquering and spreading their seed.

>>19604341
>He thinks Beatrice was real
???

>>19610446
Dante had 4 children.

>>19610446
This

>>19610452
Beatrice Portinari was the name of a young woman Dante fell in love with and he only encountered her two times in his life. She passed away in her twenties.

>>19610446
Tolstoy had 13 children, Camus had two, Tolkien had 4, Dante had 4. The real answer to >>19602918 is that it wasn't simping that was considered cool. Being a cuck has always been a stigmatizing label except for the deepest hellholes of modernity today. The pursuit of a romantic interest is what was often written about and it is still a relatable experience, even if it is a sappy or campy or cheesy thing to write about sometimes.

>>19602918
One might say back then women were chaste and loyal, thus deserving. We all know that isn't truth today, of course, they were only better admonished.

>>19606148
stay with your fellow rabble >>>/pol/

>>19602918
Was Beatritz de Dia the first femcel?

>1. I must sing of what I do not want,
>I am so angry with the one whom I love,
>Because I love him more than anything:
>Mercy nor courtesy moves him,
>Neither does my beauty, nor my worthiness,
>nor my good sense,
>For I am deceived and betrayed
>As much as I should be, if I were ugly.
>
>2. I take comfort because I never did anything wrong,
>Friend, towards you in anything,
>Rather I love you more than Seguin did Valensa,
>And I am greatly pleased that I conquered you in love,
>My friend, because you are the most worthy;
>You are arrogant to me in words and appearance,
>And yet you are so friendly towards everyone else.
>
>3. I wonder at how you have become so proud,
>Friend, towards me, and I have reason to lament;
>It is not right that another love take you away from me
>No matter what is said or granted to you.
>And remember how it was at the beginning
>Of our love! May Lord God never wish
>That it was my fault for our separation.
>
>4. The great prowess that dwells in you
>And your noble worth retain me,
>For I do not know of any woman, far or near,
>Who, if she wants to love, would not incline to you;
>But you, friend, have such understanding
>That you can tell the best,
>And I remind you of our sharing.
>
>5. My worth and my nobility should help me,
>My beauty and my fine heart;
>Therefore, I send this song down to you
>So that it would be my messenger.
>I want to know, my fair and noble friend,
>Why you are so cruel and savage to me;
>I don't know if it is arrogance or ill will.
>
>6. But I especially want you, messenger, to tell him
>That many people suffer for having too much pride.

>>19607832
>some guy logged in with the name "NIGGER"

What does this even mean? Why do you disgusting Americans ruin everything with your stupid fucking meme vocabulary. Was he a simp? Was Dante Alighieri a simp? Say that question out loud so you realise how fucking stupid you are, you absolute waste of oxygen. God I fucking hate you so much

>>19610340
>This is pathetic /pol/ shizobabble. The natural order is women outsmarting men.
If you know that they are trying to "outsmart" you to take advantage of you, and you still get outsmarted, then you're a retard.

>Men use power to get sex
Dumbest reason to get power

>women use sex to get power.
Only if you let them

>Simps are the only ones getting any action.
Cringe and wrong. Simps get the least action becasue they only receive fuck in return for resources

>>19602918
It wasn't. Chad was too busy crushing skull and pussy to write.

Literature is the realm of simps

>>19610466
>>19610533
>Tolstoy had 13 children, Camus had two, Tolkien had 4, Dante had 4
Those are not impressive for that time. The real Chads were impregnating mistresses, other people's wives, women in war, etc.

>>19602918
in the old days it was called unrequited love

>>19602918
>ITT: Touch starved pseudo-intellectuals attribute everything to simping