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You must give a young man 5 books to find meaning in the modern world. Which are they and why?

>> No.19584993

on the road
post office
the sun also rises
electric kool aid acid test
infinite jest

>> No.19584998

>>19584979
Read the Bible 5 times.

>> No.19585012

>>19584979
FUCK YOU STOP STOP STOP
STOP MAKING DUMB THREADS LIKE THIS JUST TALK ABOUT BOOKS
FIVE BOOKS THIS FIVE BOOKS THAT
RANK EM RANK EM RANK EM RANK EM
BOOKS FOR THIS FEEL? BOOKS FOR HAVING A BIG PENIS? BOOKS FOR HATING YOURSELF? BOOKS FOR POOPING YOURSELF?
BASED CRINGE CRINE BASED REDDIT
WHICH ONE"S BEETER?
BEST TRANSLATION
SHUTP UP SHUT UP SHUTP UP

>> No.19585017

>>19584979
Mein Kampf
Franny and Zooey
Steppenwolf
The Red Fox; A Catlike Canine
A Farewell to Arms

>> No.19585018

>>19585012
Meds

>> No.19585191

Bronze Age Mindset
Bronze Age Mindset
Bronze Age Mindset
Bronze Age Mindset
Bronze Age Mindset

>> No.19585193

>>19584979
The Holy Bible
The Holy Bible
The Holy Bible
The Holy Bible
The Holy Bible

>> No.19585199

Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs - Sussman, Abelson
The C Programming Language - Kernighan, Ritchie
A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
The Glass Bead Game - Hermann Hesse
The Measure of Reality: Quantification and Western Society, 1250-1600 - Alfred W. Crosby

>> No.19585241

>>19584979
The Holy Bible (KJV Eastern Orthodox canon)
Orthodox Faith and Life in Christ by Saint Justin Popovich
The Path to Salvation by Saint Theophan the Recluse
Way of the Pilgrim by an anonymous author
Read the Bible again

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>>19585191

>> No.19585256

>>19585247
BAP is a retard who's work deserves to be burned but putting this much effort into refuting a minor point of BAP's is retarded.

>> No.19585279

>>19584979
If he's dumb/midwit
>12 Rules for Life
>Meditations of Marcus Aurelius
>How to Win Friends and Influence People (these first 3 are the holy trinity of incel self-help literature)
>Man's Search for Meaning
>The Gospel of Matthew

If he's actually smart
>The Dialogues of Plato
>The Nicomachaean Ethics
>The Gospel of John
>The City of God
>The Brothers Karamazov

>> No.19585313

>>19585279
>midwit: matthew
>smart: john

more like
>midwit: john
>smart: mark

>> No.19585318

>>19585199

>> No.19585336
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Introduction to Magic volume I
Introduction to Magic volume II
Introduction to Magic volume III
The Hermetic Tradition
The Mystery of the Grail

>> No.19585490

>>19585012
>books for pooping, yourself
unironically this

>> No.19585863

>>19584979
The Age of Reason
The God Delusion
God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
The End of Faith
Why I am Not a Christian

>> No.19585871

Twilight of the Idols
Beyond Good and Evil
Genealogy of Morals
The Gay Science
Thus Spake Zarathustra

>> No.19585885

>>19584979
The Bhagavad Gita
The Upanishads
The Qur'an
The Old Testament (NOT the New)
Meditations

>> No.19585894

>>19585336
>recommend grail synthesis book without any grail original texts
What did he mean by this?

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>>19584979
The Holy Bible NKJV
The Hobbit + The Lord of the Rings
The complete Encyclopedia Britannica
On the Road by Jack Kerouac
The complete Ernest Hemingway

>> No.19585959

>>19585012
this and /thread and based and fuck off OP

>> No.19586268

>>19585012
Based and rage-pilled

>> No.19586400

>>19584993
>Electric Kool Aid Acid Test

this is the first time i see it mentioned here, only ever saw jordan peterson talk about it in the biblical series

>> No.19586416

>>19584979
The Bible
Imitation of Christ
Introduction to a Devout Life
Augustine Confessions
Bible again

>> No.19586537

>>19584979
2 works which will be useful especially as a beginner:
Nihilism by Seraphim Rose
The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church by Vladimir Lossky
3 works which will be useful your whole life:
The Bible
Philokalia
Mystical Theology by Dionysius the Areopagite

>> No.19586570

>>19584979
For my Legionaries
Mein Kampf
American Pilgrim
Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

>> No.19586588

Are these bible and mein kampf larpers serious?

>> No.19586589
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19586589

>>19585256
If BAP is retarded, how did he come up with advice this good? Sounds pretty smart to me.

>> No.19586596

>>19585012
tpbp. I hate this website so fucking much but all the alternatives I know of are equally awful but in different ways.

>> No.19586707

>>19585012
Based, fuck this thread, fuck jannies, and fuck pseuds who don't start with the greeks, they ruin everything, i no longer consider them human

>> No.19586894

>>19585012
I vehemently agree with you, nobody comes here for the beauty of reading anymore, it's a bunch of mindless zoomers (if not downright psychos) who simply want to get practical value out of books to climb the social hierarchy. Being human is a thing of the past.

>> No.19586908

>>19586596
What alternatives?

>> No.19586917

Just read a book. Any book. Just read something.

>> No.19587068

>>19584979

The World as Will and Representation
The Prince
The Divine Comedy
The Sickness Unto Death
Brave New World

These are all basic, but I did my best if you're willing to know

>> No.19587371

>>19586537
>theology
>no Lives of Saints

the focus on intellectualization of spirituality is yet another sign of pride in our days.

>> No.19587525

>>19585012
you don't care about quality discussion you just want to get your little high from playing amateur janny and thinking about how much better you are than everyone else

>> No.19587706

The Incerto by Nassim Taleb (pbuh)

>> No.19588413

>>19585012
>NOOOO STOP COMPARING BOOKS
>STOP SORTING THEM INTO CATEGORIES
>ONLY IDLE CHITCHAT ALLOWED
no bitch

>> No.19588539

>>19585012
iktf. lurking is a dead art form

>> No.19588585

>>19585012
>BOOKS FOR HAVING A BIG PENIS? BOOKS FOR HATING YOURSELF? BOOKS FOR POOPING YOURSELF?
all three topic are featured in my diary desu

>> No.19590091

>>19585012
Bump

>> No.19590205

>>19586908
>>19586596
>doesn't discuss literature on other imageboards that are extremely slow with new responses monthly at best
>doesn't participate in a secluded bookclub of pretentious faggots that bullies anyone for suggestion a retarded/YA/gimmicky book
ngmi

>> No.19590222

>>19586894
It's amazing what several generations raised under unrestrained cultural capitalism can produce. Anything of cultural value must be maximized for productivity, it can't have inherent value (even though this raises the question of what productivity even is, and who defines it). Furthermore, the whole trend about discussing and reading ABOUT books rather than reading books is shameful. I only have facebook as a social media from middle school and I occasionally check it out, and the amount of book "meme pages" shilled to me is astounding, especially since they all jerk off to the idea of books without reading them. I constantly see people giggle about buying dozens of books without ever fucking reading them it's maddening. I just want a person to talk about literature with, without them turning "reader" into a one dimensional personality complex.

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>>19584979
As a Man Thinketh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBX4WjhhXs

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4507

>> No.19590311

>>19585012
Based

>> No.19590736

>>19586894
theres a real crisis of nihilism at all levels of competence in our rat race world. people who do everything right, go to college, get a good job, etc feel just as old and anxious as the wagies that make their coffee. self-help books are mostly trash, but the problems they're aimed at are real.

in our overly individualized world your happiness is yours alone to figure out, so our generation more than past ones avoid collective action against intolerable parts of our lives

>> No.19590808

>>19584979
Give him Dostoevsky
TBK
C&P
The Idiot
Notes from Underground
Devils/Demons

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>>19584979

>> No.19590847

>>19588585
Post an excerpt right nao, senpai.

>> No.19591611

>>19584979
i would never give a young man one book let alone five. he's probably not going to read them anyway and would just end up playing video games and jerking off. and if he still insisted he needed help finding meaning I would explain that the question is nonsensical as meaning cannot be found it can only be created. There are no external sources of meaning. You need to spend a significant amount of time in isolation, preferably in nature, without distractions, and think about what you want, and then dissect those desires. If you are left with anything that you find would be worth living for, you've created meaning. But you're still not done. You will need to constantly reexamine your conclusions and they may not stand the test of time. And in the end, you might not be able to find anything you think is truly worthwhile and fulfilling, but manage to soldier on anyway because unless your life circumstances are truly horrible, it's not that difficult anyway and you always have time to sort it out until suddenly you don't, and then you don't have to worry about it anymore. But the best way to ensure it doesn't all come crashing down is to walk for a couple of hours a day and focus on thinking, live a deeply examined life.

>> No.19591636

>>19584998
Holy based

>> No.19591641

>>19584979
The Holy Qu'ran
The Holy Qu'ran
The Holy Qu'ran
The Holy Qu'ran
The Holy Qu'ran

>> No.19592505

Man and His Symbols

>> No.19592510

>>19591611
this

>> No.19592698

>>19590823
this, but unironically, followed by >>19592505
and Meditations and lastly The Holy Bible

>> No.19592808

>>19591611
>still in his adolescent existential phase
>coping about thinking being better than reading books
Sounds like you read some midwit frogs blabbering about how meaning is created, and then you stopped reading and are telling everyone to do the same because you think you have found the answer to life. Pure zoomer narcisicm

>> No.19593008

>>19585012
Based anti-zoomer

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>>19585863
This book alone destroys yours

>> No.19593313

>>19592808
i'm in my mid thirties and nowhere did i say to stop reading. just that books are not going to provide you with the meaning to life, and if you think they are, then you are the retarded zoomer.

>> No.19593382

>>19585863
>Why I am Not a Christian
This was awful. Russell truly was a hack

>> No.19594146
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The Bible - Well, if you read what happens when the ((choosen people)) departs from God you'll understand how the christians societies departed and came to such a degree of degeneracy. There you will see the beter and the worse of the human;
The Demons - 'cause Dosto just described how every revolutionary moviment happens, the mass hysteria caused by the ideas of a earthly paradise departed from the notion of God;
Pure Theory of Law - to understand how the legal positivism works in the legal system, this notion guides a lot of western legal systems around the globe;
Das Kapital - 'cause Santa Claus described well how capitalism works, but his solution for the problem is actualy worse them the fucking problem.
The Quran - Yes, at least more than a billion of people belives in it, so is essencial to understand it.

Well, you will not understand the modern world just reading any list of 5 books, but it can help you to improove your knowledge about it. My tip is: just dont fall in nihilism or in beliving in a earthly paradise, those two things screw the minds of the belivers, just study more about what the Holy Church teaches and everything will be fine, 'cause the only hope is The Lord and He will baptise this world with fire, nothing outside of Peter's Boat is safe. Another tip: the Rerum Novarum deals with a lot of topics, and prevent us from some mistakes.

>> No.19594326

leaves of grass
complete works of plato
complete works of william shakespeare
mason & dixon
green eggs and ham

>> No.19594388

>>19585012
TPBP

>> No.19594443

>>19585256
>Retard book gets reposted on /lit/ constantly
>Wow can't believe you would bother refuting that, you're just as retarded

>> No.19594617

>>19594443
Crazy how you don't have the slightest comprehension of what my post was saying

>> No.19594812

>>19586589
HAHAHAHAHa that is the most autistic shit i ever seen

>> No.19595038
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A good Bible translation
Infinite jest
Sorrows of young Werther
Man without qualities
Master and margarita

>> No.19595112

Clementine Vulgate
Douay-Rheims Challoner Bible
Knox Bible
St Joseph's Ed. Medium font hardcover NABRE
RSV-2CE Didache Bible

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19595116

Meditations
Genealogy of Morals
Origin of Species
Critique of Pure Reason
Bible

>> No.19595397

>>19593313
Perhaps they would not provide the meaning, but rather provide you advice on how to go about doing all that meaning creating yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

>> No.19595685

>>19593280
That book is a fail, and it's premise undermines the very institution of faith.

>> No.19595701

>>19593382
Allow me to counter by saying Russell was extremely based

>> No.19595709

>>19584979
The Peregrine
Jonathan Livingstone Seagull
Catcher in the Rye
The Sorrows of Young Werther
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Repair

>> No.19595730

>>19584979
>prescription meaning
Yeah, that will work.

>> No.19595807

>>19585871
Based Nietzsch-superiority-recognizer

>> No.19595836

>>19595038
>Sorrows of young Werther
We read this in German class after I went through a breakup and I really wanted to Werther-effect myself.

Motion to make werther-effecting the /lit/ version of an heroing

>> No.19595983

>>19595685
>it's premise undermines the very institution of faith.
Fideist retard

>> No.19595987

>>19595836
>Motion to make werther-effecting the /lit/ version of an heroing
werther-affecting would be more accurate for /lit/

>> No.19596179

>>19585900
the Bible and all is based..
..and so is hemingway. But how come hes in line with Kerouac ,which is total S.O.Y.

>> No.19596355

>>19584993
This one seems pretty accurate

>>19585199
*chuckle*

>> No.19596487

>>19595397
unlikely, it will probably make things more difficult, especially since everyone is just shilling books that reinforce their own worldviews and you would only be inclined to read things that seem to confirm what you already want to believe. That's pretty much the opposite of examining your thoughts. Again, I have nothing against reading, it's great. But I think the "i need to figure out a reason to live and books will help provide it" mindset is complete folly.