/lit/ - Literature

>>19540171
Stage 5 insanity eyes

>>19540171
Marginalized folks have every reason to trust progressive bourgeoisie and managerial strata over fascist white settlers who want them dead.we have every right to deplatform fascists and reactionaries and class reductionists ensure safety for marginalized and vulnerable members of our communities. We have every right to demand the destigmatization of sex work and mental illness, decolonization prison abolition family abolition the sexual enmancipation of children and an end to white supremacy and the gender binary.

>>19540302
lol gay

>>19540302
This was almost plausible up to
>decolonization prison abolition
>Sexual emancipation of children
This part is the /Pol/ fantasist showing. Just like how they go on about cuckoldery Ita something they must think about a lot to being up.

>>19540302
>White settlers versus marginalized groups
So you admit that this is about power and not ideals. I feel so much better now that I know that; I wouldn't like to waste anyone who I thought was truly innocent.

>>19541179
>decolonization prison abolition
one of the blm founders is pretty vocal about that stuff. just go to their youtube channel, "patrisse cullors"
>sexual emancipation of children
not to say most self-proclaimed marginalized, progressives believe this, but there are a non-trivial number of people who advocate for this too. just look at that one kid who made news about doing drag and dancing in gay night club and the talks around it in support

>>19540302
>>19541276
>Children should/can be sexually emancipated
You'll just make a lot of fucked up children, pardon the pun, if this ever happens. There's two fundamental reasons children should not be doing anything of the sort.

1. STDs, children don't know about them and don't have the brains to act responsibly about this issue, cause adults are barely responsible about it because it's tough, and impacts your self-worth.

2. As much as adults look back at their childhood and realize that all the pieces of the puzzle were there already, the difference is that children don't fit them together. If it's just kids playing doctor, then whatever, but the point is that no pervy adults should be making assumptions about what kids know or want to do, because if you actually think clearly about it, there are plenty of people who aren't even ready to have sex by the time they reach legal adulthood.

Frankly, comments like yours should be banned anyway, and SAGE

>>19541265
Its basic materialism. White settlers benefit from capitalism hence they have every incentive to oppose revolution or any progressive advancement for marginalized folks more broadly. Instead of pandering to the most backward secrors of the working class we should lead the way along with the most advanced ones, black and indigenous people, and queer/ trans sex workers. Sex workers not the straight male labour aristocracy who are at the vanguard of the proletarian movemen, women and queer people taking the means of production into their own hands by refusing to perform unpaid sexual and emotional labor for white men. The real class struggle is not in factories but in womens bodies.

>>19541356
>>Children should/can be sexually emancipated
where did I (>>19541276) say this? I'm saying people advocate for it, not that I agree with it. I think it's messed up too.

>>19541357
>Sex work is work
Sorry, work produces goods. This is distinct from producing babies, who are not goods, but consumers, but sex workers don't even have the decency to produce babies, most of the time.

In economics there is a joke that a failed economy is one in which everyone "cuts each-other's hair faster." In other words, they don't improve anything, just consume haircuts more often. Sex work is the same. All you are doing by promoting sex work is saying that the result will be different if I get my dick wet while having a haircut. But sex work and haircuts is where money goes to die, literally. Sure the hair-cutter or sex worker may have dollars in their pocket, but those dollars went to cutting hair and fucking, instead of going towards building a drill presss or a laythe which are productive assets.

In other words, sex work, like haircuts, is money destruction just because the money spent on it is just lost opportunity, represented in dollars.

>>19541387
My sincerest apologies, it's easy to overreact on the internet.

>>19541412
no worries anon. I've done my fair share of it. best.

>>19541387
Further response: >>19541412
If it's any consolation, I didn't report anything, I was just concerned that we were fast approaching red lines for 4chan discourse.

>>19541404
Sex work is a threat to patriarchy the capitalist system itself it is radically queer because it goes against the idea that sex is for the reproduction of the nuclear family and the patriarchal ideology of romantic love. Its a means for workers to take the means of production into their own hands here and now to abolish the distinction between the private sphere and the public, between work and pleasure and self expression. To break down the walls of lily white christian suburbia into a brave new world of pleasure rebellion and freedom. Yes it is true what they say about us queer postmodern neomarxists We are gonna groom all your daughters to be whores and your sons to be nympho trans sex workers.

>>19541456
>This is your brain on deleuze

>>19541456
the end result of feminism is a world were all women are prostitutes. the left just want to replace the family with a managerial state which is more intrusive than 'traditional values' ever were. you need a massive effectively totalitarian bureaucracy of experts, psychiatrists, media elites to ensure people are properly 'liberated' ie. ground down into a monoculture. the real reason leftists oppose traditional values because they are npcs who have been programmed to go against anything that gets in the way of the goals of their corporate masters total centralized control and exploitation. in a way its like going back to a pre-modern form of paternalism, before the autonomous bourgeoisie subject, but without any of the benefits of noblese oblige. leftists are like crabs in a bucket, trying to pull down anyone who tries to rise out of nigger status.

>>19541356
Capitalism and patriarchy depend on sexual repression and heteronormativity for their perpetuation. All children are born queer its white supremacist christian society that forces them to be straight

>>19540302
>progressive bourgeoisie and managerial strata
LOL you have no idea what you're talking about

>>19541571
I mean if even capitalists realize white privilege and systemic oppression and heteronormativity and colonialism and patriarchy whorephobia and ableism and trabsphobia are bad how can you call yourseld a leftist if you are more reactionary than the capitalist ruling class. There is a word for that it starts with f and ends with ascist

>>19541456
>>19541549
I didn't know that they have a dial-up internet connection at the Happy Valley Sanatorium.

>>19541599
the capitalist ruling class is not saying those things are bad at all

>>19541404
>a doctor or a teacher don't produce goods so they don't work
ok

>>19541276
Cope. The child stuff is a /Pol/ qanon tier attempt to slander leftist academics.
>>19541456
Lol post more like this.
>>19541532
>The left
You mean "centrist" right wing neo liberals who vote for "left wing" parties.
>>19541617
That's your brain on /Pol/

>>19541599
maybe. but the ""ruling class"" (bourgeoisie) isn't against it at all

>>19541665
Virgin the end result of feminism is a world were all women are prostitutes. An Incel hates bodily autonomy of women. Chad and thats a good thing! Even more disgusting and misogynistic than the incel but has lots of money to pay for sex workers to consensually degrade and humilliate.

>>19540171
if you take anything relating to psychoanalysis/building on freud seriously you are an unsalvageable midwit

>>19541404
>goods must be physical objects
emotions (down to the chemical) are physical objects. sex work is still work, even if (You) don't like it morally.

>>19540302
6/10

>>19541599
>whorephobia
lmao

>>19541943
And its only stigma that makes sex work be seen as dangerous and unpleasant( because its associated with marginalized people such as women PoC or queers) when it actually is a liberating alternative to traditional work(associated with straight white men)

>>19541982
The fabled sex positive feminism and libertarian crossover

>>19541982
>work bahd because why peepo or sumthin
stop baiting anon

>>19541424
appreciate it, anon. I don't blame your concern. I think the one anon is just trolling, but their (fake) talking points aren't mere fantasy.
>>19541665
>people supporting a little boy wearing drag and dancing for money for a bunch of gay dudes is cope
don't need to comment further on that point specifically, but you even see some (self-titled) leftists like Vaush talk about other leftists needing to tone down the openly gay stuff, especially towards children. I remember seeing in passing some ordeal with that during the last pride month. again, I'm not saying it's a majority advocacy point for those on the left, but the idea that it's entirely a phantasm is wrong too.

>>19541276
what exactly is sexual about crossdressing? or dancing at a gay club as opposed to a regular club? you can make a case for it being detrimental to the child's development for several reasons, the need for clearer gender norms etc. but why do you think there's a sexual aspect to it? is the choice of toys a sexual manifestation as well, then?

>>19542044
>what exactly is sexual about crossdressing? or dancing at a gay club opposed to a regular club? ...why do you think there's a sexual aspect to it?
I don't think those things are necessarily sexual. you can be a man, say, and dress like a woman and not do it for sexual reasons; similarly you can dance at a gay club because you simply want to dance, maybe with your friends or partner, say. those things are as sexual as one makes it. so, while there maybe be some that don't make those things sexual, many do. "make" maybe isn't the best word, because I don't think people can consciously choose what they find attractive or not. my point is that many people are involved in crossdressing and hanging out (and even dancing) at gay clubs do so for partially if not mainly or exclusively sexual reasons.

>>19541982
in the off chance that you are being genuine, rephrase it without the annoying fake activist twitter lingo.
>it is only stigma that makes sex work be seen as morally repugnant. in a mentally well society that exercises safe sexual health practices, it can be just as clean and safe as any other type of work.

>>19542081
There is no such thing as gay 'sex'. These people dont have sex they virtue signal and engage in shrill politically correct activities at the behest of george soros and their marxist proffesors. Whatever these people do is purely sanctimonious and ideological and utterly devoid of anything ressembling eroticism.

In a way you could argue leftists and lgbt activists are worse than pedophiles. For the pedophile its a means to get off sexually but the leftists are advancing an ideological goal.

>>19542115
>"There is no such thing as gay 'sex'"
10/10
>the ideological element of an activity invalidates it as an activity
There is no such thing as posting. These people dont post they virtue signal and engage in shrill politically correct activities at the behest of hiro and their jannies. Whatever these people do is purely sanctimonious and ideological and utterly devoid of anything ressembling posting.

In a way you could argue OPs and posters are worse than shitposters. For the shitposter its a means to get off sexually but the posters are advancing an ideological goal.
also
>it's okay when the right wing advances an ideological goal because my tribe is better than urs lol
glad you basedly debased yourself to pure culture instead of having any decent arguments, you'll make for a fantastic keyboard warrior in every culture war.

Nigga, I just want like 3-4 hot hoes and maybe some nice twinks and trannies and then one or two big dick chads to fuck me but everyone here is like "George Soros brings Marxism to America and the jews are also in cahoots" and "Child sex working dragqueens are actually crushing post-colonial white supremacists and why that is good".

Nigga, shut up.

>>19542193
same

>>19541357
Sex work is not alienated labour because the workers own body is the means of production and one can sell sex directly to the client while traditional relationships based on the heteronormative mold are literally a form of slavery a ploy to extract unpaid domestic sexual and emotional labour from women and queer people

>>19542222
Men have to perform as much or even more than women do sexually. If youd ever had a relationship you would know that you dont always want to have sex but you do it anyway if she does want to because its just like a nice thing to do. And you're expected to be the one moving too.

>>19542193
Sex being simultaneously something that is desired by everyone a form of political control and a commodity is what really drives people insane.

What exactly do sex workers do when they get older/their looks fall off?

>>19542193
She cute but her right eyebrow looks goof’d

>>19542284
Manage younger sex workers. If they learn the business then they can keep the good times rolling and make sure nobody falls off the wagon.

Schizoanalysis: "blablabla setting any criteria for anything is oppression blablabla worship Jewish culture".

>>19542284
Its a sign ageism is a huge problem and white men should check their privilege and have sex with old sex workers and pay them the same as they do the young ones also refusing to have sex with trans sex workers is transphobic

>>19542308
thats a very schizoanalytic interpretation of schizoanalysis anon, good job.

>>19542317
your baiting skills are shit, try again

>>19540171
Sauce on OP’s pic? Who is this freak?

>>19542344
@monst3r_3n3rgyy on Tiktok.

>>19542308
No.

>>19542307
In Jewish society the Jewish woman only really has one role, that of the Madam. This was legally codified under the Ottomans, where Jews were allowed to own Muslim slaves, and their harems were legally required to be managed by their sole (Jewish) wife. This was something that the Jewish men wanted, it's not a control mechanism enforced upon them. Rather, it's a control mechanism that Jewish men force upon Jewish women, by pitting them against the Shiksa Goddess that, by law, will always be their superior.

As White Nationalists have been pointing out for literally over two thousand years, "feminism" is really just projecting the anxieties and problems of Jewish women onto gentile women.

>>19542366
Wow underneath all the Clive Barker inspired piercings there’s a real q.t. pie

>>19542379
You got any historical books that can back up/explain these bizarre claims of yours, anon?

>>19540302
If you'd like to have a culture who's keystone values are cooperation, collectivism, and glorification of mental and physical defficiencies please fucking leave the rest of us alone. By forcing your values on my community and maliciously misplacing my culture you are, in effect, are marginalizing me. Fucking fascist!!@@@

>>19540171
How does psychoanalysis account for the change of sexual behaviour observed during hormone replacement therapy? Does injecting hormones give you new childhood experiences?

Hmm. Well, endocrinology can't give you a platform, or let you explain why you should be given power and money, so let's just not think about it. Genetics can also get fucked by its parents and grandparents and entire extended family for leaving no room for Jewish middlemen.

>>19541532
I'm not seeing the problem with enforced state prostitutes.

>>19542399
Humans can control their behavior because they view themselves as a unique whole entity with a narrative, which stops us being a blubbering drooling mass of flesh that can only feel momentary flashes of emotions we can't understand. Even though hormones might influence our behavior, the human psyche has filters to control these emotions, which is why humans behave in a consistent way that overrides whatever random fluctuations bubble up from our biology.

>>19542399
The psychiatric establishment has rejected the harsh truths of freudian science for feel good be yourself bullshit. Hence we get these Made up diagnoses like 'autism' or 'gender dysphoria' designed to help the industry push more pills. 'Autism' is nothing but the failure to emerge from primary auto erotic narcissism and enter the oedipus complex, hence these patients pre disposition to trannydom and related perversions such as weebshit or furries.

Hormones trigger repressed behavior stemming from childhood experience. Most often Gay or transgender individuals suffered for severe molestation during childhood and their promiscuoussexual behavior derives from the compulsion to repeat these traumatic experiences.

>>19542399
Id respect trannies more if they just admited they were perverts who ended up that way from watching too much pornography instead of pretending to be an oppressed minority.

>>19542399
>>19542540
>>19542546
>>19542574
t. retards

>>19542195
Based.
>>19542248
Aren't sex and (political) power inseperatible? Because people are inequal in body/genes, certain people would have it harder to get sex in a free love society.
>>19542296
Girls do them that way nowdays.

>>19542586
Virgin born gay v chad became gay after being horribly raped and molested as a child/ watching too much pornography/ falling for globohomo psyops and propaganda

>>19542546
>freudian
>science

why do the cute ones have to do this shit

>>19542605
Against method. Feyerabend.

>>19541456
>Sex work is a threat to patriarchy the capitalist system itself it is radically queer because it goes against the idea that sex is for the reproduction of the nuclear family and the patriarchal ideology of romantic love
hmm today im gonna do a heckin comminasm by commodifying the basic genetic drive of my species >:D

>>19542540
Sexual desire can be abolished with hormone blockers. It has nothing to do with what happened during potty training.

The short of it is that Freudian theories are revealed to be totally irrelevant hocus pocus and tea leaf reading in the face of modern endocrinology.

>>19542546
>>19542574
I'm also referring to testosterone replacement therapy for men with low T. They suddenly turn into "phallic narcissists".

The correct treatment for homosexuality is hormone therapy that accords with their biological sex. Physical training would help, but it's kind of a chicken and egg problem - low T means low inclination to athleticism. It's also not clear how much it would help feminise mannish women.

>>19540302
>enmancipation

lotta kids getting "enmanned" by LGBT for sure.

>>19542648
Sexual desire can be suppressed through ideology.
Also, Freudian theories today are more necessary than ever in the face of shitty psychiatry that's ultimate aim is not to solve any root cause of a problem, but merely to keep you a functioning subject under capitalism. There's a pill, a self-help book, a "mindfulness" technique for everything. Lacan's big breakthrough at least as far as psychiatry goes is liberating the subject by making them realize there is no "better them". This doesn't mean improvement isn't possible, but the idea there's this happy fulfilled productive "you" that's going to save the world and have all the success if they just do this one weird trick or take x pill isn't there.

>>19542899
The joke is that psychoanalysis and capitalism both go into the trash when you recognise the primacy of the body over the mind. All of a sudden the two enemies are huddling together for warmth.

>>19542925
The "primacy of the body over the mind" can only happen if you are abandoned as a baby in a ditch and die. The social world is primary for humans. Without society, you cannot be anything more than a dead baby, or even if you're given physical substance, a brain damaged human that can't learn more than 15 words and has no internal view of itself. The only way a human can come to be a human is through interaction with society. Until then, they are simply an entity that can only respond to basic stimuli.

>>19542899
Isnt that ableist? Science has proven the existance of mental conditions as products of chemical imbalances in the brain that are most effectively treated by medication. Psychoanalysis isnt radical but a cover for systems of domination based on institutionalized ableism it would be far more radical to adopt an intersectional equity perspective that places evidence based treatment and the lived experience of mental health consumers first and foremost. Besides it plays into the arguments of reactionaries to imply queer peoples identities are based on trauma and not on objective psychiatric and scientific authority.

>>19543008
>Science has proven the existance of mental conditions as products of chemical imbalances in the brain that are most effectively treated by medication
chemical imbalances dont happen on their own

>>19542957
Okay. Do I also need a degree, to be a more complete economic and social unit?

>>19543021
But you should listen to neurodivergent activists instead of psychoanalists. Mental health conditions need to be understood in an intersectional matrix together with gender race sex worker status sexual orientation and drug use. The goal is to combat stigma and help people live their authentic identities according to sn equity based perspective and scientific criteria. That means combatting internalized prejudice produced by structures of oppresion such as the debunked pseudoscience of psychoanalisis christian fundamentalism ableism whorephobia white supremacy colonialism transphobia stigma against hard drug users.

>>19543051
>authentic identities

Where is this "authentic identity" located? How does one confirm its authenticity? What metric? God help you if it has to be self-confirmed.

>>19543071
You obviously sound like a straight white man. You lack a perspective on race and intersectional oppresion. You should listen to the marginalized and not to the uncle toms who have internalized oppresion and have internalized white ideas

>>19543051
These progressive ideas are obviously part of what foucault termed disciplinary apparatuses. If society has determined the optimum market value of your subjectivity is to be forbidden from reading books to prostitute yourself and shoot heroin (to make an extreme case) , theres a whole system in place to railroad you into that through threats, appeal to guilt and shame. The real animating force behind progressivism is the old southern plantation with its paternalist ideology. Simultaneously conceiving of human beings as exploitable resources but having to deny it for ideological reasons bodies which you stuff with corn syrup and heroin and propaganda and pornography.

>>19543051
This has to be a meme.

>>19543082
>You obviously sound like a straight white man
So what?
>You lack a perspective on race and intersectional oppresion.
Again so what?
>You should listen to the marginalized and not to the uncle toms who have internalized oppresion and have internalized white ideas
Internalized, internalized, internalized. Blah blah blah. You are a boring zealot. Try actually reading.

>>19540302
What scares is me is you clearly know these people well enough to reproduce their thinking even if only to troll

Be careful when gazing into the abyss and all that

>>19543234
Or maybe just a decent empathetic human being tired of structural oppressiom of the vulnerable and marginalized people in society. To think we might allow them to slip to the cracks of our institutions to be deprived the right to an authentic identity and positive representation in media and be allowed to unconsciously internalize ableism and white ideas.

>>19543252
Name a white idea. What makes an idea white?

>>19543267
easy: an idea that I don't like

>>19543267
Showing up on time
Not taking what doesn't belong to you
Smiling at passersby
Not exploiting the momentary weakness of others
Considering strangers
Daily bathing
Proper grammar
If two people are fighting, don't scream "WORLD STAR" or stomp on the head of the already unconscious party

>>19540302
nice. a few more buzzwords I would add:
>recognize
>accountability
>equity
>center/decenter
>bodies/spaces
>disinfo
>reaffirm
>denounce
>authoritarianism
>access
>harmful

>>19543355
>equity
>bodies
>spaces
>access
these are some of my favorites. I love hearding dumb shit like "protect black bodies" and "create more queer bipoc spaces"

>>19543376
We must increase access to equitable spaces of black and brown entrepreneurial excellence

>>19543267
All of western literature and philosophy. I would burn every last page if the western cannon if it could end racism and ableism sexism and transphobia and whorephobia.

>>19543376
>create more queer bipoc spaces"
Back in the day we called that buckbreaking

>>19543289
>white guy at my job is a whiny manchild
>makes absolutely sure to do his job but never does anything for anyone else
>patronizes everyone, talks shit about everyone
>is hated by everyone at work, even this chick who just started a month of so ago

I’m half-white and can barely stand the guy. Every time I read these self-serving posts on 4chan about the refinement of white men I think of my coworker and the irony that it’s probably guys just like him behind every post.

>>19543398
>buckbreaking
To this fucking day I will never understand why /tv/ and /pol/ swear by this meme and insist that they aren't gay. Arabs/muslims also do that shit with "Only the bottom is gay", as if they are fucking geniuses for coming up with that.

>>19543388
>>19543267
wasn't there some professor and/or some college that published an article saying things like taking personal responsibility, treating people on an individual level, and valuing time were "white" characteristics? I know I've seen something like that before somewhere, but I can't find it.

>>19541532
As a straight man who is coming to terms with his privilege and prejudices towards the queer community i am looking forwards to reading some science or theory or fiction which can help me better appreciate the awful plight the diverse and vibrant culture of these ̶w̶a̶r̶m̶ ̶b̶o̶d̶y̶ ̶p̶o̶l̶i̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶v̶i̶c̶t̶i̶m̶h̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶u̶n̶i̶t̶ ̶N̶P̶C̶s̶,̶ ̶p̶u̶r̶p̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶e̶n̶g̶i̶n̶e̶e̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶i̶o̶p̶o̶l̶i̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ ̶c̶l̶i̶e̶n̶t̶e̶l̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶a̶g̶e̶r̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶p̶h̶a̶r̶m̶a̶c̶e̶u̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶m̶o̶c̶r̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶t̶y̶,̶, I mean these most noble and progressive these most pitiful and wretched of creatures. Any recs? my deepseated heteronormative prejudices cant help but flare up at the beautiful and heartwarming display of diversity and progress in pic related.d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶H̶A̶T̶E̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶,̶a̶r̶e̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶t̶i̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶e̶a̶s̶e̶l̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶s̶c̶r̶e̶e̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶n̶i̶v̶e̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶s̶h̶r̶i̶l̶l̶,̶ ̶e̶v̶i̶l̶,̶ ̶'̶m̶a̶r̶g̶i̶n̶a̶l̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶v̶o̶i̶c̶e̶s̶'̶ g̶e̶e̶,̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶n̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶'̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶g̶o̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶y̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶h̶o̶w̶'̶,̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶l̶o̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶r̶u̶c̶k̶s̶ ̶d̶r̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶r̶y̶s̶i̶d̶e̶,̶ ̶m̶a̶y̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶d̶i̶g̶ ̶a̶ ̶n̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶t̶r̶e̶n̶c̶h̶?̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ ̶a̶i̶r̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶e̶a̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶e̶e̶l̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶c̶l̶e̶a̶n̶e̶r̶?̶

>>19543432
Dont you get hard at the tought of driving a baseball bat or some other tubular object right on through their faggy skulls?

>>19543413
It's mostly popular for the spectacle of Tariq Nasheed, who's a very bizarre character. A man who is clearly insecure about having his b(l)ack walls blown out by some peckerwood bvll so he did what any sane, normal man would do and made, what he believes to be, the Ken Burns: Civil War of systemic molestation of black slaves by the planter class, but is actually a cheap ego project that makes some of Neil Breen's films seem deft and pointed.

>>19543407
>Every time I live in a white country speaking a white language and use five hundred years of white scientific achievements to whine about how white people aren't all that great, I think about how this one white guy I knew wasn't as "fly" or "poppin' fresh" as me

Hahaha

>>19543267
Niggers shouldnt learn to read it will make them uppity. Domination has to be imposed on niggers in the most impingent way they have to be totally emmasculated. To the WASP jewish elite average white people are just uppity niggers. All americans are niggers. Buckbreaking for everyone.

>>19543429
I've seen similar things. "Delayed gratification is a tenet of white supremacy".

>>19543480
>>19543429
That Duchesne guy got fired (forced to quit iirc) for basically suggesting that different socio-cultural/ethnic groups attain different levels of Piaget's hierarchy of maturation

https://counter-currents.com/2018/10/jean-piaget-the-superior-psychogenetic-cognition-of-europeans-1/
https://counter-currents.com/2018/10/jean-piaget-the-superior-psychogenetic-cognition-of-europeans-part-ii/

Can't remember if this is the exact one but probably has the gist. Basically, the same way that little kids gain object permanence or theory of mind in stages, groups of people can be ranked in terms of their acquisition of stages of cognitive maturity. Or lack thereof.

>>19543480
>>19543244
I was an edgelord industrial nazi MDE jim goad boyd rice My posting carreeer faggot before it was cool but now im thinking about becoming a progressive maybe an academic a democrat party strategist work at an NGO because thats the optimum way to be debased and inflict the maximum possible amount of mkultra trauma based mind control buckbreaking . All the while monopolizing the moral high ground and killing off any chance for 'proletarian solidarity'(the gayest most idiotic thought imaginable) . I get off to the thought of reducing human beings to nigger cattle.

>>19543480
>delayed gratification is a tenet of white supremacy
yes, that's what I was talking about. from that quote I was able to find the original pictures I saw saying that (among other things).
>>19543494
it's so interesting how these people pushing back on these "white ideas" are actually making things worse (if anything) for the people they claim to want to help. deep down I think a lot of them *want* to be victims at the end of the day, and act accordingly, whether they know it or not.

>>19542648
"Heh, Lacanain psychoanalysis is just pseudo-science. Don't these fucking anti-science post-modernists understand that mainstream analytic psychology already has all the answers? Just take pill/ do tik-tok dance / read Jordan Petersons self help books to make you feel good (and get back to work quickly)!

>>19543561
In a post industrial society the optimum value of a nigger is not as a worker. See, much like jesus christ, woke is a trick on niggers. Back in the day it made sense to tell them lies about hard work and the christian religion the importance of family and self reliance. Bu nowadays the path to peak nigger exploitation is about buckbreaking them telling them books and independent thought are for white people stuffing them full of heroin and high fructuouse corn syrup and making them prostitute themselves.

>>19543008
In its original incarnation maybe (such as Lacan's idea of schizophrenia being a symptom of a disrupted mirror stage), but you don't have to deny the biological reality of things like disability, genetic disease ect for it to function since the original framework was never talking about something purely biological, it was referring to how we are socialized. For example, "The Real" isn't anything inside of us, its not a monster or mental illness, in fact its the absence of something inside us.
By analogy, when enlightened neckbeards who love Rick and Morty talk about how we're just "chemicals and signals" or Danial Dennett talks about how "consciousness is just an illusion", this isn't at all what the real is, because you can still function while believing these things. The Real is the actual experience of this (usually through trauma), where you cannot produce any way to make sense of or explain it to yourself (especially because inthe Real, there's no "yourself" to even explain it to, that's kind of the point), let alone other people.

>>19543662
Its a sort of thought that has nothing to offer neurodivergent people and queer and PoC activists whose lives are literally being threatened by white supremacist terrorism as we speak. A violent shock is needed to break with colonial conditioning ableism and racism and sexism and whorephobia violent for the colonized as well as the colonizer. A break with all past culture and ideas is needed in order to reshape human subjectivity in the image of war and the almighty dollar. The weak will perish reduced to a level lower than that of the animal. While the strong and rutless will prosper and assume dominance as they always hace

>>19543707
^A Lacanian subject: A white supremacist conservative who experience challenged and thus his internal narratives challenged hence being pushed toward the real, who in a desperate attempt to claw away from it fires random narratives at who he perceives as his "attacker" that he thinks can defeat them at they're own gain and thus stabilize his Ideal I as someone who is always right.

>>19541456
The main problem I have with these arguments is that the "lilywhite Christian suburbia" is basically already gone...so it's like...you've won already, arguably...what purpose do you and your crusade really serve anymore? The revolution took place already. Were living the consequences of this thinking...

>>19541456
Capitalism deconstructs the original unity of nature and tradition and reconstructs all that is so as render it amenable to objectively and rationally quantifiable commodification.

Repeat after me: "I am free".

>>19543736
>>19543758
>>19541456
Oh shit, I thought this was just some right wing troll. If you're actually a leftist, I'll engage you, repeat what your argument was.

>>19543772
Meant for >>19543707

>>19541456
>it goes against the idea that sex is for the reproduction of the nuclear family and the patriarchal ideology of romantic love.
I guess my suspicions are true. You people are really just miserable and hate everything that's beautiful and good.

>>19541617
>>19541943
How can you be dumb enough to not only write this, but to post it too.
The service provided is all but completely without value in the case of haircuts and without any value in the case of prostitution.
This is not true of doctors, teachers, or anyone else who actually produces a service that adds value to human life.
Face it, prostitutes are complete losers. The only bigger losers are the Johns and the simps who enable them.

>>19540302
this was written by a tankie troll

>>19540171

What I admire most about niggers is their superior fast twitch muscle fibers. They can give a firm handshake! It's that chimpgrip. Imagine crushing a tiny chink's skull like an egg in the palm of your gigantic nigger gorilla hand. Gorillas are just niggers with tiny dicks. Imagine sipping out all the red brain juice between a matrix of shattered bone and hair. Americans admire niggers. Next they'll admire literal fucking animals. Niggers are devolving every generation because of their sexual practices. Literally, their IQ average is getting lower and lower. Imagine being some retard lizard brain ape beast with superhuman strength. That's the platonic ideal of Nigger unfolding itself through space and time. And the Quran and Zohar, it is stated truthfully that monkeys and great apes are descended from predeluvian peoples who spiritually and genetically regressed into animals due to degeneracy

>>19543782
Well no, Conservatives are for everything that is ugly but dressing it up with beauty. The fact is that the nuclear family which we all were raised to know and love, and were presented with its splendor in Disney movies and the like, is a beautiful illusion in the same way the idyllic feudal peasant life is. The nuclear family is the stage for child abuse, authoritarian control over children, the control over the parent's lives now they're forced to raise a child and must give up their own autonomy, and for the proletariat constant fighting, divorce and social alienation since the nuclear family, being the family of capital accumulation, is unstable for them since they have no capital and must sell their labour. The only way to cover up this fact is with beautiful propaganda and ideology, but I bet even rich conservatives can remember trauma from it if they think hard enough.

>>19543736
But im also a queer latinx neurodivergent person of color i mean i might become a traditionalist roman catholic say what you say about the pope at least he wont try to pimp me out or tell me books are for white people. See the church at least strove to keep the child raping discreet and at a respectable level... Compulsion to repeat but for psychological warfare. In a depressed catatonic state watching one of dan schneiders paedo kidcoms gore and CP on /b/ browsing encyclopedia dramatica a brainchild of the department of energy's counterintel people the democratic surround and the agencys human resource exploitation manual a flow of images more real than the users physical body the theater of all possibilities biosphere 2 spaceship earth the dome and the closed world

>>19543825
>every nuclear family is abusive and horrible
"no". Its not like conservatives are opposed to extended families either lol

>>19540302
what

>>19543825
Leftist want authoritarian control and child abuse to be inflicted by public schools managerial bureaucrats and paedophilic lgbtsjwtfnpc apparatchiks

>>19543841
You’re projecting also those are libtards

>>19543561
>family structure
Is the same across all cultures lmao. Except for the 2.3 kids thing.

>>19542193
I want a chaste society where people have sex for procreation.

>>19543835
I didn't say "every nuclear family is abusive and unstable", I said the social structure of the nuclear family is abusive and unstable. Conservatives don't have to be ideologically oppose to the extended family to oppose it in the same way proletarians don't have to be ideologically opposed to the nuclear family to oppose it. Most proletarians desire for and try their hardest to make the nuclear family work, but the social forces of capital just make it untenable for them.

>>19543841
I mean, I don't believe in public schools but whatever.

>>19543848
What do leftist ever do except cover up for the libtards? I mean its clear these people idea of 'revolutiin' involves being fed psychiatric medication and watch tv characters that represent their authentic idemtities. Which is fine by me but they think you and me should do the same which makes them cross the line from mere objects of pity to outright enemies.

>>19543855
The social structure being inherently abusive would mean that every nuclear family was abusive. Obviously this is not true so the social structure is not inherently abusive. The rest of your post appears to be similar gibberish meant only to ignore reality and play with words.

>>19543854
No.

>>19543881
you are mentally ill

>>19543867
There is no such thing as a leftist
Also marx wrote that capitalism destabilized and eroded the nuclear family. Many such cases!

>>19543886
Wrong again.

>>19543870
The "social structure" meaning "enforced through socialization", not literally that every group of people who find themselves in a nuclear family ever are inherently in an abusive relationship.

"Gibberish" from rightoids usually means "don't/ don't want" to understand. Go read your self help books and watch some NoBullshit brainlet, this thread is too high level for you.

>>19543899
All social patterns are "enforced" to some degree by custom if not law but parents caring for their children is going to happen in literally any human society, and there is nothing abusive about this. The extended family not being present for whatever reason does not render the core family somehow abusive. Furthermore people openly choose this much of the time rather than being forced into it. You just hate families because you hate everything normal and good and want to warp and invert it.

>>19543849
>is the same across all cultures
that's part of the problem with many of the points listed. on one of the other photos they list men's attraction being based on their economic status, power, and intellect. go, idk, fucking anywhere in the world and that's the case generally; and it has been through known history.

there's also stuff like "planning for the future" and "delayed gratification" on the list, which unless you're a lazy unambitious person, isn't bad in the slightest (though the implication of the points is that there *is* something wrong about them)

>>19543388
You're a delusional, miserable zealot. You're no different from the fundie Christians that clog up this board. Have fun with your culture war. I'm going to go get a warm blanket and read some lit by white males.

>>19543772
Its not a phase mom im doing a schizonalysis, easy for well adjusted mipeople to peddle radical chic and then shelter themselves in a conventional private life but if you are truly on the margins it gets terrifying quick.the ambivalence of being shaped by the most extreme aspects of our culture while also being a retard special ed kid and realizing no one is really to be trusted and the left are just another gang of people trying to control and exploit you

>>19543973

finna deterritorialize quentin's colon

>>19543968
I noticed you didn't say cis white males.

>>19543825
Thats the impression i get from querrs and leftists they ended up that way from being horribly raped and molested as children and want to perpetuate the circle

>>19542320
This whole thread is full of prime schizoanalysis

>>19543561
Someone post the one with the differences between white and "colored" parenting.

>>19543973
>The average "Well adjusted rightoid/modern psychologist" explaining how Lacan is schizo nonsense before crying about apple cider traumatized them

>>19541179
At least pol is honest about the real basis of power in sexualized domination cuckoldry and buckbreaking and child abuse the left want to forget about it make you watch your state mandated dose of queer child pornography sponsored by george soros john podesta and the NGO industrial complex. In a way what leftists do is way more evil and disingenuous than pretending to be a nazi on the internet

>>19543244
Whats wrong about that sort of thinking its nothing but empathy for wretched and suffering creatures and rughteous hatred against oppressors.

>>19543854
sounds boring

>>19540302
yawn

>>19544108
The reason/pol/ first started the cuck meme was because of an article titled "cuckolding, the thinking man's fetish?". Then it expanded to apply to anyone who was perceived as acting in the interests of others instead of his own, as the cuckold does by raising other men's kids and allowing them his wife. So white progressives who place the interests of non whites above whites, conservatives who play a character in a system in which they always lose, etc.

Now some of /pol/ do seem to be fixated on it, and on interracial cuckoldry especially but you have to remember that a lot of that is posted as bait by anti/pol/ types. The other thing is that its honestly a fear of pretty much all men, though many deny it. As we've had countless threads pointing out, cuckoldry is a very prominent theme in literature. It's an omnipresent danger for men which represents the person they love betraying them and their genetic line dying. Basically its just a psychologically potent subject and it's not surprising it would be weaponized for political rhetoric.

>>19543806
So all the ugly af incels like you get milked to not go crazy and on a killing/rape spree has no value? I think prostitutes are the heroes with no capes.

>>19544221
dumb newfag its popularity as an insult began in 2013/2014 on /v/ because of anthony burch

>>19544251
I have never browsed/v/ but I was on /pol/ in 2013 and it was originally linked to that one article. The meme was frequently referenced with the thinking man's fetish part included.

>>19540302
Is this what they call a chud?
I'm going back to comfy /pol/

>>19544789
Stop making fun of anon. I was in the thread where he originally posted that and I found what he wrote to be very moving.
The fact that you would take the message that he posted in good faith and subvert it to such a ridiculous degree is fucking dispicable.
Our world fucking sucks because of FAGGOTS like you who care more about sarcasm and having a laugh than good old honest sincerity.
If your kind had their way, the last flickering light of honesty would have been extinguished ages ago.
Enjoy your reddit-irony, faglord, but know this: his post was not made in vain.
I'm 18 years old, and to tell you all the truth, I used to feel like fucking nothing, but you know what? now I feel like I'm nearing the prime of my life.
Yes, I genuinely feel this way.
I'm getting smarter and recently I've been getting more complents.
I have friends now that I genuinely care about me, and although I don't have a girl-friend just yet, I feel like I actually can get one.
To put it simply: I'm not self-pittying anymore
Anon's story is inspiring and convinced me that he was a worthy soul; but what about you?
Anon made it, and you're mocking him for it—and why? because you're a fag—I repeat: because you're a F A G.
Anon isn't some PUSSY spamming shit for laughs and turning people's genuine messages into le funny leddit irony maymays, he's a MAN who does and tells and inspires. That is the essance of a life well lived, the EUDAIMONIA and the EXAMINED LIFE of the Greeks.
So long as I live I will not let anons message get perverted.
Life fucking sucks but we'll make it and when anybody tells us to sit down, we'll stand up—and why? because the world was made for us—I repeat: because the W O R L D was made for U S.
Seethe you retarded bitch.

>>19541179
>Sexual emancipation of children
>/pol/ fantasist
French post-modernists were /pol/acks????

>>19545312
Yes.
No I'm not joking.

>>19543008
Damn anon, that’s a pretty good troll.

> lived experience of mental health consumers
Holy kekomonly

there was a thread some time ago about Deleuze's lectures being satanic. does anyone have the link to the thing posted in it?

>>19543568
Low T post.

>>19543806
>The service provided is all but completely without value
are you claiming that recreational sex has no value? by that claim, any couple that practices recreational sex is disillusioned with reality and is somehow participating in some shared psychosis.
>its degenerate, therefore valueless
if its fun, it has value. most people find sex fun, therefore (to most people) it has value. just because you don't find value in recreational sex, doesn't mean others don't. even the consumerist retards that drink soda every day still find value in drinking soda.
pleasure is value, whether you like it or not. why do you think people buy sex toys? find a different argument against prostitution, even the radfem retards that talk about how it exploits women have a better argument than you.

>>19543806
>>19548234 (samefag)
also don't repeat the dumbass spiel of "theres no love in it, therefore there is no value". people jack off and have sex because it gives them dopamine. saying theres no value in acts that primarily provide dopamine is a retarded statement. you can be an annoying nu-stoic about it and postulate how you find little value in short-term pleasures but saying there is absolutely no value in recreational sex is fucking retarded.

>>19544221
>perceived as acting in the interests of others instead of his own
Let's remember that the actual cuckoo hen will knock eggs out of another nest, lay hers in the nest, and then have the actual owners of the nest raise her chick.

>>19545312
The ends result of A Thousand Plateaus is basically D&G throwing their hands up, admitting that solar imperial steppe ethno-pagan fascism is the only workable... well, everything, and then saying that they won't live to see it so they're just going to be hedonists until they kill themselves. The book itself is mostly about interacting with Dumezil and Oswald Spengler, so the only way that it could be more Far Right is if they brought up Konstantin Pobedonostsev. This has been known in Lefty circles for quite awhile, and its why they're trying to get Trannies to make D&G "their thing".

Trannyism makes absolutely zero sense under D&G's schizo-system, but again, it's not about making a sensible ideology, it's about denying them to the Right.

>>19542193
>Nigga, I just want like 3-4 hot hoes and maybe some nice twinks and trannies and then one or two big dick chads to fuck me
All that and some free money or a great fucking incentive to work other than taxes and weekends off.

>>19548390
>Trannyism makes absolutely zero sense under D&G's schizo-system,
This
I don't get how this isn't obvious to everyone. It basically spells it out:
>be agile along the lines of flight
>thinking and creation of new things happen at incredible high speeds
>don't territorialize so fucking hard at everything
How do you go from that to: "well I should permanently and for the rest of my live mutilate my body to try and live as a woman"
These people could have chosen to become a pack of solar anus wolfs but instead settled for the most basic shit and keep failing spectacularly at it.