/lit/ - Literature

>>19534223
>Is this how it works in real life too?
Mostly no

>>19534223
>Is this how it works in real life too? That you tell a girl honestly that you like her

If you want her to lose interest feel free to do it

>>19534226
>>19534232
Why does verbalizing your feelings not work in real life?

>>19534317
Don't listen to these Virgins. Life opens up when u start being open and honest with other people about your feelings (along as you can earnestly listen to them.) Connection gives life a deeper context and its very possible trust me I connect on a deep level with almost everyone I converse with (ofcourse woman just as much)it blows people away because its easy and incredibly valuable, just not done, never keep your feelings to yourself as long as they aren't mopy and boring, you'll die alone. Be a human being who can feel, express and bring out in other people the full range of human emotion is a superpower. And yes average balanced people do talk like this to eachother.

>>19534317
Because most communication is actually subtext, and women are far more in-tune with this due to evolutionary pressures. It's why you observe what a woman does, not what she says. What she does also includes *how* she says things.

Men didn't evolve with the same pressures. A physically strong human can say exactly what he wants. He has no need for subterfuge or context "games." But women have always needed those things.

So basically, if you're trying to get a woman, you have to play the "game." Refusing to play it isn't a strategy, it just means you can never win. There are exceptions among women, especially if they're autistic, but otherwise, you gotta play the game, G.

>>19534359
>Don't listen to these Virgins.

OP, feel free to do what you want, tell a girl you like that you really like her and see what she does.

>>19534232
incel detected. Literally the most effective way to get a gf

>>19534223
You really don't want to take tips from Japanese men on having a sex life. I think the whole concept of "confession" over there is some weird hangover from the days of arranged marriages. They have never learned how to flirt, or few of them have.

>>19534317
Here's how to kill sexual tension:
> Spoiler alert! I want to go to bed with you. I'm just waiting for the conversation to be done.
You cannot negotiate your way into a woman's panties. It's non-verbal.

It's also dishonest. You've never had romantic feelings for a woman you were not physically attracted to. People are inclined to care for those that they're attracted to, but women also experience sexual attraction. Don't act as though you're going to pay for sex with kindness. She's getting something out of it to and doesn't need to be bribed with flowers and chocolates and compliments, as though you had no appeal of your own.

>>19534384
By all means, I encourage OP to try it. He can even try it on a girl he doesn't like to play it safe.

The resulting experience will be a life lesson at least

Literally everything about Murakami's books is about an autist who gets lucky with girls, because that's probably what happened in his own life. The subtext of all his books is that the main character is so physically attractive that women want to fuck him despite his obvious social ineptness.

>>19534386
I mean, in the book, Toru had quite some sex because he was able to express his feelings both in a verbal and non-verbal way. Maybe modern Japanese men are not very successful because there is a stigma to love, sex and relationships and they never learned how to talk about their feelings with girls?

iirc the protag in that book was described as super handsome Chad
handsome guys get to act however they want with girls and still get pussy because women only find top 1% of men physically attractive
Chads are in the highest demand sexually because of this, and therefore they get to act however they want and still get laid

>>19534401
>The subtext of all his books is that the main character is so physically attractive that women want to fuck him despite his obvious social ineptness
I have only read Norwegian Wood but the protag was not good looking. Midori even tells that she wishes he was more attractive.

>>19534411
No anon, you do not understand women
being open about your feelings, especially regarding sex is massive turn off for women
if what you're saying is true, the indian guys on twitter would be getting the most pussy in the world because they're the ones who talk about their feelings with girls the most

>>19534426
>if what you're saying is true, the indian guys on twitter would be getting the most pussy in the world
I think you lack nuisance. What I mean by expressing your feelings honestly and verbalized is how it happens in the book:
You meet a girl, spend time with her a lot, connect emotionally and at some point you express that you really like her, trying to leverage the connection to a more romantic level.
Obviously Indian men saying that they like bobs and vagene do not get pussy.

>>19534426
>>19534436

If a girl is hopelessly in love with you you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want as long as you don't overdue it.

That said, most women you interact with won't be in love with you and expression of feelings/obvious evidence that she "conquered" you and now you love her are not going to do you any good

>>19534223
>Do you really talk to women so openly about your feelings and about sex?
Only if it's about another woman, not the one you're talking to.

>>19534441
>overdue it.

Overdo it

>>19534223
So are they trees or legs?

>>19534447
Do trees have shoes?

>>19534454
They could be bendy trees.

>>19534436
Remember that time you met a fat girl and found yourself spending a lot of time with her?

You're not being honest with yourself or the woman in question; what you're describing is a one way ticket to the friend zone, because you're suppressing your sexual desire and trying to apologise for it with kindness. Expressing romantic feelings while hiding sexual ones implies you can't imagine being sexually desired by a woman. Women tend to take men's (unspoken) word on this.

>>19534447
it's a crypto-svastika

>>19534472
This is just another way of saying that using the "nice guy tactic" to get pussy is uniquely manipulative compared to any other tactic which is just false, the nice guy tactic is just the only one which is just the most derided apart from the tactic of literally putting a roofie in a woman's drink.

>>19534504
Based trees?

>>19534223
Midori just likes Toru because he's a brooding loner like the Goose in Drive to be honest:

"Why didn't you answer today when they
called the register? You are Watanabe, aren't you? Toru Watanabe?"
"That's me."
"So why didn't you answer?"
"I just didn't feel like it today."
She took off her sunglasses again, set them on the table, and looked at me as if she were staring into the cage of some rare animal at a zoo.
"I just didn't feel like it today." You talk like Humphrey Bogart. Cool. Tough."
"Don't be silly. I'm just an ordinary guy like everybody else."
The wife brought my coffee and set it on the table. I took a sip without adding sugar or milk.
"Look at that. You drink it black."
"It's got nothing to do with Humphrey Bogart," I explained patiently.
"I just don't happen to have a sweet tooth. I think you've got me all wrong."
"Why are you so tanned?"
"I've been hiking around the last couple of weeks. Rucksack. Sleeping bag."
"Where'd you go?"
"Kanazawa. Noto Peninsula. Up to Niigata." "Alone?"
"Alone," I said. "Found some company here and there."
"Some romantic company? New women in far-off places."
"Romantic? Now I know you've got me wrong. How's a guy with a sleeping bag on his
back and his face all stubbly supposed to have romance?"
"Do you always travel alone like that?"
"Uh-huh."

>>19534529
This dialog really is great evidence of how women actually are, they literally shit-test you to see if you're popular with other women in order to gauge your value as a man.

>>19534534
except he says he's alone

>>19534567
Yeah but she literally asks if he has had access to pussy while on his trips, clearly she's trying to figure out if some other woman found him as valuable as she does.

>>19534529
hmm... why is he attractive again?
>independent
>loner
>cool
>tough
>fit
>tan
>stubble
>can also express his feelings
wow jeez louise i dunno it's a fucking mystery

>>19534534
>girl didn't shit test him once
>he either way wins her over by being himself
>literally says he is a loner
Are we reading the same dialogue?

>>19534580
you are not even wrong but projecting way too much

>>19534586
>d-do y-you h-have s-s-some romantic c-company on t-t-those trips? tee-hee asking for a friend :^)

You're a retard.

>>19534509
I didn't say anything about manipulation. I said it was dishonest, which is as much to say that it's cowardly, because you can't have (voluntary) sex with a woman without at some point revealing that you have sexual desire for them. Revealing it after a long period of "friendship" is a great way to make yourself sexually repulsive. Manipulation can be cowardly, but cowardice isn't manipulative in itself. It's just lame.

>>19534592
>No.

No you.

>>19534594
>you can't have (voluntary) sex with a woman without at some point revealing that you have sexual desire for them
you don't express your desire through words retard
only faggots from /lit/ do that

>>19534223
On the same subject I recommend 'Indignation'.
It's about a guy who gets a blowjob.

>>19534592
Or maybe she was checking whether he was a player because she doesn't like players? Maybe she was subtly asking if he has a girlfriend? I don't know but have you thought that not everything women do is a subtle redpill shit-test?
Also, Toru is just a normal dude, maybe a bit on the loner side, who can express himself well and authentically. That's what wins over every girl. Literally all about personality.

>>19534529
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>>19534567
This reads as very breezy and nonchalant on Toru's part. I don't think she would assume he's telling the truth.

>>19534610
Women love virgins. They're guaranteed not to be players, and after all, why would women be interested in men that are popular with other women?

>>19534604
Yes. But if you're "talking about your feelings" then you've already skipped over and suppressed sexual tension.

>>19534594
>Revealing it after a long period of "friendship" is a great way to make yourself sexually repulsive

Or, you know, in the real world getting to know someone and being friendly with them is precisely what makes you fall for them and want to fuck them. The idea that a friendship with a woman can't graduate to romance is such a 2005 broscience horseshit internet narrative that is pure cope for people who actually hate women and can't handle the cognitive dissonance of wanting to put their dick in something they hate.

>>19534623
>why would women be interested in men that are popular with other women?

Because it's a good proxy for whether a man has value? If nobody wants a certain man, chances are there's something wrong with him.

>>19534226
>>19534232
>>19534317
Unfortunately there is no final solution when it comes to romance. In general, there is no simple method such as just being blunt about your desire to fuck a woman. It MAY work, but it’s not likely and it’s certainly not guaranteed— especially if you and that woman haven’t already established a relationship of trust with one another.

Or that’s the way I see it, at least. I’ve been blunt, I’ve been couth, and I’ve had mixed reactions all across the board to every attempt at courtship. Plenty of the women I’ve tried to bed now absolutely hate me and won’t give me the time of day and others are still willing to entertain conversations with me and allow for me to make more attempts at sexual intercourse. There is no pattern aside from recognizing that some women, once spurned, will only serve to torture you for as long as you’ll allow them to do so.

There are those you can be blunt with and there are those you can’t. Being able to recognize this takes practice, but it’s key in knowing how to advance sexually.

For reference, I’m a 7.5/10 male. Maybe even higher, but I’ve suffered enough failure and humiliation to be wary about rating myself any higher than that.

>>19534623
>women love virgins
lol no
>why would women be interested in men that are popular with other women?
oh wait you're serious?
let me laugh harder anon

>>19534635
Sounds more like women can sense your narcissistic personality disorder and leave before they get murdered for hurting your ego.

>>19534627
No, because at this point he's dedicated to another girl: Naoko.

itt: virgins and redpilled retard are dumbfounded by basic human interactions
touch boobs guys

>>19534640
Lol does it really sound like I have narcissistic personality disorder? I guess that would make sense; I have a pretty fucking hard time letting go of a romantic. rejection.

Don’t most people, though? I’m no expert on narcissism, but from what I’ve seen I’m no worse than the average guy who has received compliments his whole life.

>>19534657
You do sound like a narcissist when you rate yourself very high and then say that every woman you meet hates your guts.

>>19534677
+1

>>19534677
Every woman I meet definitely doesn’t hate my guts, but there are a handful who definitely do. I’ve tried hard over the years to level with the ones who do hate me, because I really do regret making enemies with at least a couple of them, but they’re not having it and there’s not much I can do about that. I have a drinking problem, and so in conjunction with social media I have managed to verbally abuse far too many people to not expect some backlash.

But I digress. My original post wasn’t meant to make it seem like all the women I meet hate me and yet I still fancy myself to be a stud lol. They hate me for perfectly good reasons. Most women I meet like me a lot at first— it’s only when the relationship escalates that things can either become better or worse.

>>19534717
Anon, see a therapist instead of divulging personal information like this on the internet, people here are just going to laugh at your misfortunate instead of help you.

>>19534717
how big is your dick tho?

Reading threads like these back when I was a virgin probably delayed my getting laid by years. Such bullshit, terrible advice. I wonder if even 1/10 posters are not virgins.

I really took 4chan comments seriously, I must have been retarded...

>>19534722
I don’t expect any “help” from anyone here, just trying to contribute to the discussion. If I was afraid of being ridiculed by cowards I would have never bothered posting on this website in the first place lol.

I doubt anyone who is honest about their experiences with women and failure can come off as being mentally sound. It’s not something to be proud of, but it’s certainly worth discussing.

>>19534751
The best advice when it comes to women is to simply associate with them as much as you can and the rest usually comes about pretty naturally. Most of the redpill shit comes from guys who literally sit at home 24/7 and haven't talk to a woman apart from their mother since they went to high school.

>>19534739
It’s not. It’s not small, but it’s not going to get me a job in porn either. I’m pretty sure having an average sized dick is ideal in any case as both extremes come with their fair share of issues.

In my more raunchy lays I (and twice the girl herself) juat straight up said I want to fuck you. This was when I was way more /fit/ however and idk if that would happen now. In my more long term relationships it started as largely non verbal but you eventually get comfortable enough to be more open. Maybe japs are more open about it from the get go but seeing their virgin problems atm maybe thats not a hood thing

This is how it used to work up until social media became a thing. Now everyone is retarded

>>19534359
>trust me I connect on a deep level with almost everyone I converse with
If you actually think that then you are one of those overexcitable delusional people.

>>19534751
I agree with you that getting dating advice on 4chan is a terrible idea and so am curious as to what you think is good advice when it comes to women?

Reading you guys talking about women is always a pleasure. It's like watching monkeys use tools.

>>19534854
Not that anon, but dating is entirely trial and error. You should take all advice about it with a grain of salt, as the number of factors involved make it impossible to devise a scenario that will lead to guaranteed success (whatever that success means to you).

Best advice I think anyone can give is to just fucking try what you think will work as long as it’s within reason. That’s it. Anything else is superfluous.

>>19534854

Having masculine male friends is very important. A group of friends who have interesting hobbies, such as sports or music or some craft who spend pretty much all of their time with friends, partying, at work or pursuing a personal hobby, never on the internet; they can talk to girls without any shyness, because being themselves is attractive, it is what they do all the time because they aren't thinking about what to do, they are always enjoying the moment and when a girl comes along it's just another moment, nothing to worry about.

They don't take advice from PUA videos, or from 4chan or from anyone in real life, not seriously at least, because they want to have the personality which suits them, some are more sensetive, some are very funny some are athletic or serious, they are discovering their own nature and enjoying it. Then, once you have been as you are around ten or twenty or five-hundred women you'll find one who is pretty and attractive, who also likes you. This will develop naturally.

If you think finding good friends is hard or that you're too ugly, or that it's impossible for a beautiful girl to enjoy your true authentic personality, then you're probably exaggerating, don't you think?

Be around different types of girls and come to your own conclusions about them. My own opinion is that just like men: many girls have a lot of negative traits and few redeeming ones, others have a few aspects I don't like but other wonderful aspects which make my life happier. So, I love those girls.

>>19535304
>just bee yourself
Good take. Interesting how this advice is so hated on the Internet but it's the only thing that really works.

>>19535355
I’d also argue that self-hatred is a rampant trait among the more vocal sects of internet posters, and so something that suggests that the key to their happiness is to simply be themselves doesn’t register as sound advice to them.

>>19535355
It's as useful as being yourself in a work interview

Only great if you happen by chance to fit all the random bullshit they are looking for. In my opinion you should lie costantly to women

>>19535371
In the end you’ll only deceive yourself.

>>19535382
No, I am deceiving someone else, that's how telling lies work

>>19535386
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>>19534359
this, but it is also a personality thing, not everybody can, at least not to that extent. You seem like someone genuinely capable of what you're describing. So am I. The women I know, and yes I have female friends, too, routinely tell me how much they enjoy that I express my emotions with clarity, in a way they can understand and relate to. I am also a very sensitive person and I pick upon other peoples emotions quickly. Women are blown away when I tell them something about them that I could sense, or something on their mind that I could read. I also honestly tell them when I think they're talking bullshit. They really appreciate a man who is in touch with his emotions, and who can relate to others. The mistake that retards make is to think that being in touch with your emotions means being self-centered, moping and whiny. It doesn't, and these traits are definitely, and justly, a major turn-off for a woman because she instinctively knows the guy is just looking for a mommy to take care of him. Women want a man who has self-respect.

>>19534378
warped, opaque, new-age

>>19534386
>Don't act as though you're going to pay for sex with kindness
spot on, that approach is some weird, deformed form of trying to force your will. Rightfully rejected.

>>19534426
"me want coom" isn't a feeling, it's an urge. Two different things.

>>19534517
all trees are based

>>19534639
joining in with the laughter

>>19534635
It truly is astonishing how those who always just want to take and never give are so good at playing victim. It's pathological.

>>19534751
You really must have been and fuck, I'm glad that I only started going here after I've had my fair share of experiences in many aspects of life, this place would have ruined me had I come here as a teenager

>>19534758
correct

>>19535772
Being able to give is something that’s hard for most people, not only because doing so can make you vulnerable, but because it’s a skill that needs to be learned, preferably in childhood. According to JBP, kids who don’t learn how be socially sophisticated enough to be liked by their peers (i.e. sharing, behaving, etc.) by the age of 4 are, more often than not, doomed to a life of misery and social isolation. I guess it has a snowball effect that becomes increasingly difficult to deal with as one ages.

It’s pathetic, really, but that just goes to show you how insanely important proper child-rearing is. Shitty parents will likely raise shitty children, and shitty children grow up to be shitty adults. Ideally the cycle should end right there, but as this thread and many others like it have proven and will likely prove until the end of time, it doesn’t.

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>>19535727
We did it reddit!

>>19535772
What exactly is it about massreplyfags that make them so insufferable? Is it the perceived insincerity oozing from each short half-arsed reply like >joining in with the laughter and >all trees are based ?

>>19534223
>Is this how it works in real life too?
It doesn't. Tried it out multiple times, missed out on teenage love because of similar kind of approach. Women literally cannot into romanticism, they 95% of times prefer you to treat them like bitch, pretending you don't care makes you attractive to them. Don't ever start by telling any girl that you like her. In ideal world this would be the most simple, obvious and best thing to do, but it just doesn't work. The earlier you realize it the earlier you'll get laid.

>>19536010
One of my closest friends is a female who is also a romantic. She’s a 6/10, some guys might rate her higher but I’m just not that attracted to her. If she was hot I would have married her in a heartbeat.

Spontaneous romance is disarming and effective. When you explicitly state your interest in someone, you had better do it after lust has been satisfied and you are both comfortable enough around each other. Words get in the way of sexual contact.

>>19535371
Don't you think it takes less effort to talk to more girls until you find one that likes you for you is easier than being an full time actor?

Besides comparing human relationships to a corporate job? If all you want is sex, it's cheaper and faster to hire a prostitute. A few extra hours at work for guaranteed sex with a hot girl, or roulette all night in a club. Whores don't care if you wear shorts and into mongolian weaving

>>19534615
That's how I read it, he's aloof and honest. She liked that he wasn't posturing or bragging and is in fact a brooding loner, which is consequentially pretty hot in the short term. I don't pretend to know what women like, but taming the wild and mysterious beast is up there as far as fantasies go. It's been a long time since I read Norwegian Wood, but I read it as the story and outcome of a few short term fantasies taken to their conclusion. That HST line about the 60s being the high water mark came to mind. I didn't really get it until I examined the absurdity and nuance of his earlier works.

>>19536246
>One of my closest friends is a female who is also a romantic.
Hence I said 95%, but this:
>6/10
is another important thing. Now, I don't exactly know what you mean by that but 6 is not an 8, 9 and definitely not a 10. The prettiest girls are virtually never truly romantic, because as early as at the ages of 12-13 they noticed they will always have a bunch of boys orbiting around them. Why would one romanticize something that is easily achievable and eventually, sooner or later, becomes boring/disappointing? Telling a woman who has no idea what love is (usually saying that she doesn't believe in it) that you love her will make you look like one of those 13 year old schoolboys. I cringe every time I recall myself doing that.
>When you explicitly state your interest in someone, you had better do it after lust has been satisfied and you are both comfortable enough around each other. Words get in the way of sexual contact.
Very true, although even then I wouldn't be too fast with that. Women usually thought I was being ironic when I did that after the first sex, as if it were something unbelievable, so I was like yeah heh.. jk
I guess woman's and man's psyche are just built too differently to work on the same waves here, and from my experience playing the direct, emotional, honest card will usually make you look ""cute"" (the worst insult!) but never attractive.

>>19534223
>Toru
Toru Okada? Is this the same character from The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle?

>>19534386
Japbros...

>>19537268
>The prettiest girls are virtually never truly romantic, because as early as at the ages of 12-13 they noticed they will always have a bunch of boys orbiting around them. Why would one romanticize something that is easily achievable and eventually, sooner or later, becomes boring/disappointing?

This is an irresponsible generalization, but I suppose love is a remarkably complicated affair. Women are far more practical when it comes to choosing a mate for obvious reasons, but even then to claim that hot women are devoid of romantic tendencies is just abject cynicism.

>>19536278
>Don't you think it takes less effort to talk to more girls until you find one that likes you for you is easier than being an full time actor?
>until you find one that likes you for you

I am tall, kinda fit, two degrees and was rejected for being right wing. You don't have a clue, women are dumb and conformist and need to be lied to costantly. So, yeah, it takes less effort to be a full time actor

>>19539101
>rejected for “being right wing”
>concludes that lying to women is the only solution

Lol anon, pls

>>19539115
I won't stop seeing reality as it is to please irrational left wing mongoloids. There are racial differences in intelligence, there are sex differences in intelligence and psychology, heritability of intelligence exists, feminism destroys countries. I don't expect women to suddenly develop the ability for rationality on their own, therefore I will just lie and try to make them reason after they developed feelings

im a virgin

i just woke up from a beautiful meaningful dream, i dreamt i fought my sister to death, i cut her arm off but another one grew and then later we decided to stop fighting.
then later somehow i went to a bar and there were some local celebrities who were trying to provoke me asking me intimate questions, trying to get a proof that I'm a virgin and it's somehow a bad thing. some woman was trying to get info out is my dick big.
then later i was walking somewhere through a meadow with a female version of my best friend. yes, with a girl who would exist if my best friend was a girl. Not in a tranny way, a literal girl.
She was so beautiful, had blonde hair and grey eyes, was a normie but a weirdo in a fun and attractive way, so not an NPC.
We went to some apartment and hung out on a sofa then i was telling her what happened to me at a bar. Then she put her hand on my dick for half a second, then fidgeted. I was like wtf you doing, then i was like no wait, continue...
Then she let me know that she wanted to know how big my dick is, but i told her to see for herself, then she constructed a length with her hands and asked "is it bigger than this?" i realized that it is so that's where the dream ends.

>>19539153
I’m guessing you have pretty limited experience with women in general if you think most of them give enough of a shit about politics to reject you for being “redpilled.” Of course, that’s a totally different matter if your entire personality is based off of these political opinions of yours, in which case it comes as no surprise that you would be rejected despite having desirable traits.

You should know that there is a big difference between lying to a person and keeping opinions about sensitive topics to yourself. One of them is polite and tactful whereas the other is straight up deceit, which is something only a person of low moral character would employ in order to temporarily win someone’s romantic favor.

>>19539237
>I’m guessing you have pretty limited experience with women in general if you think most of them give enough of a shit about politics to reject you for being “redpilled.”

Try dating college aged girls

>only a person of low moral character would employ in order to temporarily win someone’s romantic favor.

Ah, yeah, the appeal to morality. I stopped caring a while ago when it comes to women. Do you think the great majority of women trouble themselves with matters of morality when it comes to telling lies to men? And if they don't, why should I?

Men in Murakami novels speak like idealized versions of Murakami himself. Women in Murakami novels are the same except they're obsessed with sex. Even random children in his novels have an in depth knowledge of classical music and American jazz.

>>19539310
>college aged girls
I’m 30— I did not relate to most college-aged girls during my 20’s and am on bad terms with most of the ones I dated because of exactly what you are describing, but there are still plenty of them that I am able to discuss these things with openly because they are more intelligent or mature and are able to discuss these things openly without becoming irreparably offended as soon as they hear something they don’t like. I’m still friends with those women and I see them as examples of what I look for when dating someone new.

>they lie, so I should lie
Why the fuck would you lower yourself to the level of an ignorant female out of spite? There is nothing to be gained from this besides the company of more women who you don’t trust, respect, or get along with. In time, even sex with them will start to feel hollow and shameful.

>>19539349
> I did not relate to most college-aged girls during my 20’s and am on bad terms with most of the ones I dated because of exactly what you are describing,

So, let me get this right, last time you dated one of those women was...? Things are going FAST my friend, and the college women of 2011 are not the same of 2021. I have seen and heard things you wouldn't believe. Universities look like institutions ran by counter-reform Catholic priests.

>Why the fuck would you lower yourself to the level of an ignorant female out of spite?

I don't see it as lowering myself. Manipulating peope is not inherently evil or squallid. It's a skill and one of the few things I think women can do significantly better than men. I wish I had realized that 10 years ago.

>There is nothing to be gained from this besides the company of more women who you don’t trust, respect, or get along with

Increased intimate interaction could allow me to find a woman that is not completely ruined and that listens to reason. Otherwise I'll move on.

>>19539378
>counter-reform

counter-reformation*

>>19539378
I used to think like you, anon— had the same attitude and everything. Maybe you’ll just have to experience what I’m talking about for yourself before you can learn to let go of that chip on your shoulder.

God speed.

>>19534317
Because it makes you look WEAK and women hate weak men. That simple.

Murakami is a massive incel

>>19534386
This is 100% neolib propaganda designed to get Japan, one of the last great homogenous nations, to bow to foreign interests and relax their immigration policies. It's Admiral Perry all over again, imperialism under a different name. The only reason neolibs don't go after China with the same subversive fervor is because they don't fall for it and they might actually give them what they deserve.
Japan is a tiny island nation (even then 70% of the land is basically unlivable mountainous terrain) that has been massively overcrowded for a century and is going through a natural period of logistic growth. Japanese people didn't forget how to have sex in a couple decades after apparently being too good at for centuries you moron.
Tokyo is still more populous than any city in the U.S. by a wide margin and has more natural born Japanese in it than 20 cities in the U.S. have natural born citizens combined.

>>19534359
Based and dare I say it redpilled

There’s some genuine advise in this thread, though I reckon you’ll only see it when it’s familiar. Still it’s nice to be reminded to stay true to yourself and be assertive. People will come and go but when you’re isolated the loss of one is massive compared to being outgoing.
Be honest and the punches will lessen over time.

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>>19534378
Okay, which one of you do I trust?

>>19541699
Test it yourself

>>19534401
>The subtext of all his books is that the main character is so physically attractive that women want to fuck him despite his obvious social ineptness.
I thought this whole "mediocre guy gets the entire world to fall for him" thing was just a manga thing. is it common in regular japanese novels as well?

>>19539661
lol retard
japan has vending machines for panties
they are fucked up sexually as a nation

>>19543001
>has vending machine for clothes among other conveniences
Yeah, the Nips are the fucked up ones. Those pantsu would be gone in 48hrs if you left it on the streets of new york or paris

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>>19534583
wtf is the reading comprehension with you fags?
From the dialogue it looks like she was attracted to him from the start because he is cool, tough like Humphrey Bogart. The part about whether he's alone or not is because she wanted to know if he's single

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>>19534583
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>>19534567
wtf is the reading comprehension with you fags?
From the dialogue it looks like she was attracted to him from the start because he is cool, tough like Humphrey Bogart, rest of the conversation is just filler and the alone part is just her gouging whether Toru is single or not so she can make a move on him