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old thread >>19483229

>> No.19500051

>>19500043
Yesterday I was cleaning the house and cried while listening to a Fear and Trembling audiobook. Still moved by it. Today I'm actually reading it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cPJSCBLpeQ

>> No.19500194

Had a dream last night that I saved a bunch of jews from the holocaust via shooting a guard with a shotgun with one shell in it Ala some action movie and then wound up getting into a firefight with a bunch of Soviets.

I gotta wonder what is the point of dreams and why do we have them? Is it the brain imagining our desired reality? It can't be solely that because we have nightmares and don't desire those. And it's not just leftovers from the day before. I did not watch nor read any ww2 stuff. Haven't for awhile.
What are your alls thoughts on dreams? Any books for this feel.

>> No.19500208 [DELETED] 

when they say trust the science, is this the science they're talking about?

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

>> No.19500222

I couldnt find the root cause what caused me to end up like the current me.

>> No.19500238

>>19500194
I dreamt my friend and I entered a dirt bike race to win back my father's truck. I was in the lead when I landed a jump poorly and the crash left me paralyzed but conscious. My friend and our opponents caught up to me, dismounted and began kicking me to see if I was still alive. I could feel the kicks, but couldn't move or talk. I hate dreams.

>> No.19500241 [DELETED] 

>>19500222
try taking more lsd

>> No.19500305

I jacked off to loli and now I feel guilty.

>> No.19500323

Do you ever notice how sometimes you look back with nostalgic fondness at bad memories? You can remember the worst of your worst but as soon as the "but it's muh memory"-mechanism kicks in it automaticaly becomes as pleasant as the good ones, or at least the process of remembering itself.

>> No.19500345

WHY IS /LIT/ SO FUCKING SLOW TODAY I'M TRYING TO PROCRASTINATE AND AVOID READING A BOOK BUT I KEEP REFRESHING AND THERE'S NOTHING TO WASTE TIME ON

AT THIS RATE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO READ

>> No.19500379

>>19500345
Go read, anon. Cmon get on with it.

>> No.19500387

>>19500345
What are you reading rn,anon?

>> No.19500422

>>19500043
Can't stop thinking about this girl I met for 3 days like a year ago. She was the most fascinating person.

>> No.19500436

I can’t decide if I should invest my learning in French or German.

>> No.19500595

>>19500222
Try therapy.

>> No.19500601

I saw my old gym crush today for the first time since covid started yesterday, she had a bf then and I'm wondering if she still has a bf now.

>> No.19500621

>>19500595
I did.
On several occasions varying from month to three months

>> No.19500631

>>19500051
Can I ask why it was so impactful? I was busy in college and went from Kant to schopenhauer to nietzsche with random outliers so I only know a basic level of Kierkegaard.

>> No.19500676

>>19500323
I do. I'm assuming you were younger and life was more carefree. Times were simpler and I miss my old true self before I became jaded to fit in with the real world. Just the loss of innocence, combined with the fact I could've still had a better future despite those bad memories if I knew what I did then and changed myself in time, those things were still under my control. Now I'm sort of trapped, idk if your situation is similar. Also, I think it's easier to romanticize youth because life is shit when you grow older even if you're "smarter" and more successful usually. So if you can't attach happiness to those younger memories and see them as the good old days, what sources of happiness can you find at all? Nostalgia grows stronger the more the future looks bleak. When hopes for the future give way to romanticizing the past it's usually a bad sign but hey I'm not one to talk.

>> No.19500950

>>19500676
>So if you can't attach happiness to those younger memories and see them as the good old days, what sources of happiness can you find at all?
This got me thinking, anon. I said that people tend to remember distant memories with fondness, be they good or bad. What if this process is our brain's last resort to ensure that we can still experience even a little happiness even with depressing memories as source material? I know it sounds like 14 year old pseud talk but what if our brain guarantees a little happiness for its own good? Not everyone will be happy but everyone(with a working brain at least) has memories, right? The process of remembering by itslef can be more pleasant than the actual memories it uses but it still guaranteed to offer a good feeling. Good fuck I'm so stoned.

>> No.19500953

those old italo-disco eurobeat songs. I like them.

>> No.19501102

>>19498373
I just mean that if you like something, and you don’t like that you like that thing (for any number of reasons) that appears as a problem. I like (some) anime and manga, but I don’t like the fact that I like it and it’s not because it’s not /lit/. I just find it, I don’t know, childish or strange or something. I tend to be interested in [Japanese thing] broadly and I’ve always been a little troubled by that.

>>19498871
I was just speaking about it broadly but if you want to know which one I had in mind when I said that, it was Bunny Girl Senpai.

>> No.19501173
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I like to stare at the moon hiding behind its dress of dark clouds, which comes and goes with the blast of the icy wind, making the branches of the trees without leaves dance


original:
j'aime fixer la lune se cacher derrière sa robe de nuages sombres, qui va et vient au gré du souffle du vent glacial, faisant danser les branches des arbres sans feuilles

i don't know shit about writing in a good way but i just had this in mind

>> No.19501362

I don't like you.
I love you!

>> No.19501415

>>19500631
Not that guy but afaik you need to take the binding of isaac as truth to accept any of his arguments in f&t however hes a talented writer and like any existentialist he comes across as being real and alive and expressing his honest emotions which could hit you hard even if you aren’t Christian

>> No.19501426

>>19500043
Einstein, Freud, W.Benjamin, Derrida
Believed that telepathy antedated
Speech by millennia.
Why's telepathy so silent now,
If not bc it's taboo?
The lie is the lion of civilization to telepathy's
Hyena of madness & criminality:
Via which it laughs
Unacknowledged truth.

>> No.19501430

>>19500194
>Had a dream last night that I saved a bunch of jews from the holocaust via shooting a guard with a shotgun
thats disgusting.

>> No.19501486

>>19501430
Saving people from extermination is disgusting? Not the extermination tho hunh? Brain disease

>> No.19501620

>>19501486
>people
>jews

>> No.19501655

Does anyone have recommendations for particularly good magical realism which isn’t Latin or Japanese?

>> No.19501901

>decided to finally read the bible
>it's actually really good
why do so many not read it? even most "christians" dont read it.

>> No.19501961

I have forgotten how to be alone with myself. Every night when things have calmed down and people have gone to bed, my mind just spirals down into the worst places, thinking up scenes where I'm happy and more than just friends with the person I love. Then I snap back because that person has someone already and it makes me feel so painfully lonely. It's been the same every night for weeks. Why is life so full of pain?

>> No.19501969

>>19501620
yes people jews also kys

>> No.19501992
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>>19501969
the creatures who put the Lord, Christ, to death are not human beings.

>> No.19502013

Jag offrar mina skor för det gröna ljuset!

>> No.19502087

>>19500043
I've realized recently that money doesn't motivate me at all beyond covering my very basic living expenses and that this mindset has hampered my "career" progression.

>> No.19502089

>>19501961
Either gay or just very lonely.

>> No.19502098

>>19502087
Seems like you care enough about your progression. Why not focus on that and see the money as a way to progress further. Surely you have goals in life beyond simple sustenance.

>> No.19502104

pee pee
poo poo
pee
poo

>> No.19502130

>>19502104
Based

>> No.19502184

>>19502087
same. i completely stopped caring about material wealth and began to lay flat. other than rent and food i have almost no expenses. i'd like enough to buy property, because a mortgage is actually cheaper than rent, and savings in case of medical needs. otherwise i'm not getting onto this 60 hours of work a week american corporate mindset of working yourself to death for money. what's the point? so that at age 65 you can sit on a pile of wealth like a dragon and lament your wasted life? the service of mammon is slavery. boomers really were the worst generation to ever live in all of human history. i disavow their values of materialism and consoomption. they destroyed the nation and the future of their children for temporary material wealth, and they're such hateful and miserable people that they don't even enjoy it. they're the generation of judas.

i value a strong, safe, sustainable, prosperous nation with a rich culture dedicated to arts, learning, and beautification, where people can have happy families and live in peace. i value free time and a low stress lifestyle. i value that which builds long term wealth and stability, not short term stock market gains earned from selling out the soil under our feet. all the vile workings of their generation must be reversed and the nation restored to enduring greatness. usurers will be lined against a wall and shot.

>> No.19502192

>>19502104
why is no one talking about this? say it louder for the people in the back!

>> No.19502199

>>19500436
It doesn't matter. If you get as far as learning one you'll inevitably want to learn the other

>> No.19502217

>>19502087
I don’t even care much about that. I hate my job, and I refuse to pretend I don’t.

>> No.19502227

>>19502184
Based

>> No.19502258
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>>19500631
Because the book came to me just in a moment that I was questioning a number of things, I'm growing more religious and like him, I basically lost the "princess". And there was a specific quote that hit me hard:

>It is about the temporal, the finite, everything turns in this case. I am able by my own strength to renounce everything, and then to find peace and repose in pain. I can stand everything—even though that horrible demon, more dreadful than death, the king of terrors, even though madness were to hold up before my eyes the motley of the fool, and I understood by its look that it was I who must put it on, I still am able to save my soul, if only it is more to me than my earthly happiness that my love to God should triumph in me. A man may still be able at the last instant to concentrate his whole soul in a single glance toward that heaven from which cometh every good gift, and his glance will be intelligible to himself and also to Him whom it seeks as a sign that he nevertheless remained true to his love. Then he will calmly put on the motley garb. He whose soul has not this romantic enthusiasm has sold his soul, whether he got a kingdom for it or a paltry piece of silver. But by my own strength I am not able to get the least of the things which belong to finiteness, for I am constantly using my strength to renounce everything. By my own strength I am able to give up the princess, and I shall not become a grumbler, but shall find joy and repose in my pain; but by my own strength I am not able to get her again, for I am employing all my strength to be resigned. But by faith, says that marvellous knight, by faith I shall get her in virtue of the absurd.

>> No.19502383

help me decide what to do tonight. I want to have some drinks tonight but i have no idea what to do/watch while drinking. ill probably watch a movie later, but what to do between now and then? im not watching any tv series right now and cant decide on a series to start since im a little burned out on all my favorites, i lent my ps4 to my dad so no video games, and i cant focus on reading for shit when im drunk, but honestly its looking like I might end up trying for as long as possible

>> No.19502390

>>19500043
I am a strung out loser stumbling through life without ambition and I dont have the mind to even give a damn. I feel generally frustrated and impotent with interspersed periods of sublime peace. I am redlining most of the time without going anywhere. I cant wait for this shit to be over. Life is a funny joke. I dont even know what I am annoyed with. I think drugs are the best option for me. I am valuing my 'clear' mind less everyday. I want to chill out forever, maybe I should get medicated and take the edge off like many others are doing. Maybe I should just have sex.

>> No.19502424

I'm not happy, but I'm not depressed either.
I have no friends. I don't leave the house. I have no job. My parents are getting to the point of kicking me out.

>> No.19502618

I've been a puppet, a pirate, a poet, a prophet- a pawn and a king.

>> No.19502635

maybe the thing with forgiveness is that you don't have any control over them either way, you only control your own rancor

>> No.19502705

>>19502424
Same here but I have a job.

>> No.19502710

>>19502424
and then what

>> No.19502902
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Why are these subtitles so terrible? He's clearly saying Montmartre, not Lament.

>> No.19502939

Does anyone have book suggestions for a guy that hates women? Books for gays work too, as long as they also hate women

>> No.19502957

can't wait till this semester is over

>> No.19502967

>>19502939
Pretty much all of them.

>> No.19503080

>>19502957
Fuck, I have finals, I'm not finished yet WAIT!!!!

>> No.19503083

He crossed state lines.

>> No.19503085

>>19502957
i have a thermo2 test tomorrow im fucked

>> No.19503088

>>19500345
/lit/ has the Thursday scaries.
Today is they day we spend contemplating self and our autistic introspection overrides any attempt at peace or joy.

>> No.19503092

>>19502705
So you're better off then me.
>>19502710
And then hopefully I'll go to bed tonight and not wake tomorrow.

>> No.19503101

>>19503092
what if you do wake up everyday, then what?

>> No.19503114

>>19500043
Your life is already over, Anon.
You want to enter another world, a brighter world, a world of warmth and light, a world where that itch to do something of value, to make a difference, to put forth your efforts and fulfill some secret design for which you and only you were born to fulfill has been scratched, a world just beyond this one, out of the corner of your eye, a hair's breadth from your touch, yet so far as to be unreachable. No, your world is that world's reverse, a world where you strain and bend to reach the accomplishment, the sense of fulfillment, the satsifaction and warmth that always seem to be just within reach, where you are never quite good enough, where everything you eat is faintly tasteless, where colors are just a touch too dim, a world that promises all you wish for in the hidden part of your childish idealist's heart lies just a little farther yet. Yet that is your world, and there is no escape, no way out, not for you, for it is inextricably bound up in your very being. For if another you, a better you, a you who did not strain and struggle only to barely see mediocrity of his efforts, a you not tormented by guilt from actions avoidable by a bare step in any direction otherwise, were to take your place, you would not exist, would never have been. No, Anon, you will wish all your life to stop disappointing and burdening and hurting others and being hurt in turn, and it will be granted you, for after your death you will fall into the center of this world of yours, which is truly a world of darkness and formless emptiness and everlasting regret, of wailing and gnashing of teeth, a world numb and frozen and bare, where the warmth of God will not warm you, for you have chosen to freeze yourself in ice, where His light will not touch your eyes, for you have chosen to become blind rather than see your own shameful failing reflected against it. A world where you will cry out to never have been, to cease utterly, and it will be denied you.

>> No.19503423

>>19500043
I don't want to be bisexual (people tell me I could be) and I wish I was traditionally masculine (people tell me I am not). I never paid attention to this sort of thing but it makes me want to blow my brains out now that it's suddenly a big deal.

>> No.19503458

>>19503114
Faggot mindset, no wonder you never get anything done.
It's not over until I'm dying of cancer on a hospital bed, bleeding to death on the street like a dog, succumbing to dementia abandoned in an asylum, or tied up and about to get beheaded for liveleak.

>> No.19503473

>>19500194
insight into subconscious life

>> No.19503741

I realized today that I only sympathize with lesbians because they are struggling vulnerable women and when i see them I want to protect them and hold and love them, but its a contradiction, you known, because they are lesbians.

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I am consumed with regret I did not dedicate myself to reading 2 hours every day starting at 13 years old. By now I would have completed all the masterpieces and had a decent grasp of any non fiction subject that interests me. I would also be at prime creativity to begin producing masterpieces of my own. I could start now but by the time I have a solid base I will be too inflexible and old.

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Jacking off doesn't cut it anymore. What's the point? Maybe I just wanna be loved.

>> No.19503909

>>19503854
jacking off never did it for me, it's like smelling food while you're hungry, just makes the hunger worse

for me the only way fapping worked was to do it as utilitarian as possible in the shower to get it over with, not make a big event of it. porn always hurts more than it helps.

>> No.19504004

>>19503909
I've been thinking of taking that approach as well now.

>> No.19504305

You're all sub-normal normal-faggots who aren't half as intelligent as you think and less than half of what someone who can actually think thinks. You are less funny and more repulsive like a particularly ugly clown.

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>>19500194
Dreams are what your brain expects to happen. As for lucid dreams, who knows. A trick of the disturbed sleep state. I have a relative who is lucid every night, no hallucinogen use. Just a disordered sleeper.

>>19500323
Absolutely not. Logical consistency is very important to me, I hate to be exposed for behaving irrationally. In my memory every bad moment was bad for a reason.

>>19500422
>>19500601
I'm in love with a friend's GF. She's the real deal, I thought I didn't have a chance with her, but something is different in the wind. I'm a different man, and I've never felt this before. if she feels the same way, we have an awkward situation on our hands.

>>19501426
I hope so, anon. I really hope so.

>>19501901
I got into reading the Bible ass backwards, and it's amazing every thinking person doesn't read it. Nothing could be more conceptually and linguistically normal and intuitive than the Bible.

>> No.19504326

>>19504305
fucking schizo I've come to hate your kind. cry for help somewhere else shit eater

>> No.19504367

My art and media professors keep on assigning texts by art critics and theorists, but I haven't read the Greeks yet, so I'm very sad. My STEM major is really holding me back.

Also, I wish I could meet Conan O'Brien. He seems like a cool guy.

>> No.19504374

>>19504326
Mediocrity talks.

>> No.19504380

>>19500345
Probably it's close to finals week for a lot of us college students.

>> No.19504384

>>19500043
Even though I'm not a wholly pessimistic person, if I had the choice, I would see Instrumentality through to its conclusion.

>> No.19504388

>>19504384
why? It will happen inevitably someday, what possible motive could you have for rushing us into an eternity of sameness?

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I am more published than 99% of /lit/. I have had numerous short stories and poems published. I've even been featured in a major magazine, and paid for a poem once.

But it's not enough. I want to be better. Be greater. I want to create a great work of art. I want to write something that fills the world with beauty, goodness, and truth. I want to write something that glorifies God and draws men towards the truth. I want to write something that people will still be reading a thousand years from now. I want to do what Homer did, what Dante did, what Shakespeare did. I want to be a great artist. I want to be a great writer, a great poet. I want to write something worthy of Bloom's Western Canon.

I just hope I can do it. I think I can, but even with all my self-confidence, I am sometimes plagued with doubt. Because I've gotten some things published, and I've come further than many. But I need to go further, and I'm sometimes not sure I can.

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19504456

fuck females

>> No.19504461

>>19500000

>> No.19504596

I have a fetish for tattooed women. If any femanons ever want to grab my attention, get a temporary tattoo, it'll drive me nuts

>> No.19504665

>>19500043
Does anyone else need to read on a screen because looking at a book (usually with head down or holding it above you) begins to hurt your head? What is wrong with me? Maybe I'm experiencing hangover really bad.

>> No.19504762

What is this ideology?
>Marx was correct about the nature of capitalism
>Marx was wrong in thinking capitalism's effects on the family, culture, etc. is a good thing

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ive been drinkign a lot and smoming a lot of cigarettes. but im not smoking any weed so im alright right? idk. maybe im not. alright im not. whatever though. what can i say? vices replace vices. im a degenerate and thats ok. ive been doing better and feeling better. it'll all work out some day right?
https://youtu.be/ixX2e4fB8Vk

>> No.19504855

>>19500043
I think paul was badly mistaken

>> No.19504874

>>19504820
I've put on almost 10-15 KGs since I quit boozing and smoking, and most of it is fat not muscle.

It's actually fucked, is it just vices all the way down?

>> No.19504907

>>19504874
maybe theres just no wijnning for people like us? we just do a little better every time.
if it really is just vices all the way down then i guess ill see you at the bottom bro. cheers

>> No.19504912

>>19504456
I enjoy doing so.

>> No.19504922

>>19504762
why do ppl act like saying capitalism is... le bad is the intellectual property of a single man.

>> No.19504992

I'm thinking about trying to re-learn what it's like to interact online with other people... by posting on 4chan. Both IRL and online, I've burned most if not all bridges with everyone I know. (This is isn't my first post here, but it's my first serious one.)

>> No.19505082

Global warming is humanity's last hope.

Have you seen the ads for the Metaverse? It's a literal hell. We are headed for a world where we live in illusions, escaping only to work to pay for more time in this virtual world. And then there's AI, the development of which is the most unethical and irresponsible thing in human history. AI bothers me a lot, actually. It's not just certain human extinction, it's certain extinction for all life on earth, and any other life in the local stellar neighborhood as well.

>Anon, you're a Luddite
I am literally a software developer. My pro-AI colleagues disgust me. I feel like telling them "You are being paid to create the weapons which will kill us all by people who do not understand what they are playing with". My pro-VR colleagues still think Metaverse and it's descendants will be a glorified Zoom or gaming platform, not the ultimate instrument of slavery.

Now, why does this mean global warming is a thing which inspires hope? Because it gives us a way out of this senseless, blind rush to create AI and VR. You cannot have these things without the complex global economy which will build and distribute VR hardware or which allows AI to have dangerous control to the world. Global warming will led to technological stagnation and regression. That is what we need. We need something to pull us back from the brink, and global warming is that something. It scares me when I see efforts to stop global warming make progress. We need to be accelerating it, that is the only ethical choice.

>Anon, global warming could lead to human extinction and environmental destruction
the environment is doomed no matter what. Humanity will die out if AI reaches its full nightmarish potential. On one hand we have AI, VR, and certain slavery followed by extinction. On the other we have global warming and possible extinction. We must choose the latter.

>> No.19505104

Med school is fuckin hard, and stressful af.

>> No.19505110

>>19500043
I know I should be above it, but nothing kills my motivation like seeing people younger than me excel not only at the things I'm "good" at, but also at the things I wish to do but am terrible at.
I suppose it's an unexpected perversity of the way a monkey-brain interacts with the internet when you're exposed to these things. I never sit and compare myself to all of the 60 year olds who can't program after all.

>> No.19505744

I fucking hate life so much. it's all so disgusting and fake. I want it to end. I hate externoids and reality engagers fucking kill yourselves. I will never work, I will never get the jab, and I will never stop saying nigger.

>> No.19505769 [DELETED] 

>>19505082
>poor understanding of AI and global warming
>hysterical
you already know...

>> No.19505791

>>19505744
What's your favorite video game?

>> No.19505806 [DELETED] 

protein cookies plus sugar-free rockstar energy is a recipe for foul gas

>> No.19505891

>>19505082
Is there a way to outsmart AI?

>> No.19505916

>>19504406
This post made me sad.
>>19504855
Mistaken for breaking up the Beatles, or for founding Christendom?
>>19504992
You can learn how to argue here, but not much else. Real human beings have totally different timing and layers of meaning. Anons online are just symbers of people, they don't supply your brain the same way. Part of you knows you're just sitting in a room. That will only make you better at burning bridges.
>>19505082
Global warming isn't going to do shit. The metaverse is already here, it may never cover the whole globe or all people. If GW did somehow damage society, which isn't going to happen, that would only create more opportunities to expand and solidify the metaverse as host to more vital functions, like we saw with Zoom. I give you my hands against the synths, by the way. Not racist, just don't trust 'em.
>>19505110
If you REALLY wanted to be a great leader of men and art legend, you would be. Not putting in the work while refusing to be a follower because of your age is a recipe for disappointment.
>>19505744
Pitiful, if only you had been born with Down's Syndrome so this inferior philosophy couldn't make a mockery of you. Retards are better than you!

>> No.19505937

>>19502184
Based, and same.
>>19502217
I’m not sure I hate my job, but it is just so boring that I can’t be bothered half the time. It’s not that I don’t have enough work, I have work piling up from not doing it, it’s just that inevitable “work” amounts to sending emails, having meetings, and then sending emails about those meetings, all about a topic I literally could not care less about.

Do I hate my job? No, I don’t care enough to assign hate to it. It’s more just annoying than anything else. I’ll be quitting soon because the company is a good one, with decent people working in it. They don’t deserve someone like me ruining the workflow.

>> No.19505939

>>19502618
I’ve been up and down and over and out, and I know one thing

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>>19500043
what's it like to kiss a girl? What if she has bad breath?

>> No.19505961

>>19502184
you and the people that agree with you are totally lost. You already think like a dragon. The point of having wealth is to help the people you love. Depending on how big your heart is, that could be a lot of people. Small hearts serve one.

>> No.19505999

>>19505961
Good point anon. I used to agree whole heartedly with the anon you replied to, but that ideal would no longer serve me. While I agree that the societal expectations for a career in meanginless corporational work is soul crushing, wealth should be used to aid others in your community. Which is even while I will be laying flat, I still plan on continuing to donate my time and money to charitable organizations. I’ll be able to donate less money then I currently am but will be able to donate more time.

>> No.19506033

>>19505999
Honorable. Personally, I feel a sense of obligation to those who spent their time and money raising me, I don't want to hang out on the corner and be a drain on the neighborhood forever.

>> No.19506116

>>19505937
Same but I hate it because I’m not interested. I think quitting because you think they deserve better is a huge mistake.

>> No.19506122

>>19505961
You don’t need wealth to help people.

>> No.19506159

>>19506116
>I think quitting because you think they deserve better is a huge mistake.
It’s not the major catalyst for me quitting, it’s mostly to alleviate myself of the burden of responsibility that I no longer wish to bear. But the idea that I could be helping by letting myself go is a part of it as well, as I feel guilty about not producing good work due to my lack of interest. Why would you say it’s a mistake?

>> No.19506177

I used to be highly motivated and strong willed, but I've lost all will and motivation. How do I get myself motivated again? Is that even possible?

>> No.19506249

I do often wonder if great literature can be written today. I personally believe great literature needs to be organic, intuitive, poetic, rooted in the soil and deep cultural piety. It has to express a cultural feeling. But where’s that today? Our feeling is one of tiredness, sometimes dread, a feeling that something’s gone wrong and something’s been lost. Any returns to the soil and to piety will be based on intellect and not intuition. It’s not a feeling, but a thinking. A sterile fake of the real thing. So for those of us who would otherwise devote ourselves to letters, what are we supposed to do? Do you struggle against it and try to resurrect something? Do you accept things as they are and express it as best you can? Do you give up and explore other creative possibilities? None of this is clear, and the feeling is one of general ambiguousness rather than an impulse in any one direction. At least that’s how it is for me. I feel totally lost.

>> No.19506259

>>19506159
Because it implies there’s a certain productive standard which you have to live up to as a matter of dignity or personal principle and I don’t think that’s true at all. People are not statistics, and one certainly should view oneself as one. Productivity only matters in so far as it’s a consequence of an effort, drive, and orientation. If one or the other is disjointed or misplaced, then productivity scarcely matters. And even from a purely statistical standpoint, do you think what the world needs right now is more emphasis on work and productivity?

You do what you need to, or what you want to, but beyond that it’s principle and I suggest there’s no principle which dictates you go farther than needed or wanted in the realm of work for which you don’t feel oriented towards naturally.

>> No.19506404

>>19505891
AI is onto as smart as the data which we feed it. If the data is wrong, the AI will draw incorrect conclusions. It’s why I like it when liberals push for getting rid of “bias” in data which will be used to train AI. By ensuring that the data AIs use fit their biases, they are ensuring it has an incorrect view of the world. That means it can be outsmarted and defeated.

>> No.19506426

>>19506404
>onto
Only

>> No.19506470

>>19506259
> do you think what the world needs right now is more emphasis on work and productivity?
Not at all, if anything it needs a lesser focus on work and productivity
> I suggest there’s no principle which dictates you go farther than needed or wanted in the realm of work for which you don’t feel oriented towards naturally.
I like the sound of that, but just from a fairness perspective, the company has agreed to pay me in exchange for my time and production, and I am only giving them a small portion of that time and production while accepting the full rate of pay? My small portion of production and time isn’t what we agreed upon, although to be fair it’s what they’ve continued to accept for the past year and a half almost.

Either way I really appreciate this conversation, I’ve had these thoughts stuck inside for so long and it’s hard to know how to act properly. I don’t like the job, it’s uninteresting. But when do I quit? When it suits me or asap for the good of the company? Do I quit at all or am I just being an entitled prick and should just suck it up and do my work? All seem viable answers to me

>> No.19506621

>>19506122
That's odd, every time someone has helped me, they had the resources to do it. Do you do around exploiting the homeless or something? An adult's time is worth at least $20 an hour btw.

>> No.19506766

>>19506249
>Our feeling is one of tiredness, sometimes dread, a feeling that something’s gone wrong and something’s been lost
So write about that

>> No.19506904

>>19502184
This with no irony

>> No.19506912

>>19505082
>We are headed for a world where we live in illusions
4chan will be fine

>> No.19506927

I've been dating this really nice trans man but he's basically just a very attractive female (hot female body, female voice etc) who considers himself a man, and I don't know how to feel about it

>> No.19506956

My brain has been balkanized.

>> No.19507013

>>19506249
>Our feeling is one of tiredness, sometimes dread, a feeling that something’s gone wrong and something’s been lost.
Could almost make one ask, ‘Beautiful World, Where Are You?’ Right? Sally Rooney does this very thing, tackles this very problem, through the perspective of university millennial romance

>> No.19507151

I'm so lonely, with fantasy of socializing with people yet too tired to do so

>> No.19507208

I wish my destiny would have something good in store to me.

>> No.19507431
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>>19507208

>> No.19507436

>>19500043
Many have commented on the 'pornification' of sex but really its the escalating 'powerification' of sex. since women in western countries are raised to seek and adopt masculine virtues and thus develop a more acute sense of masculine power, they demand further coercion to be satisfied. they no longer feel right with subtle performative forms of coercion as was the norm prior to this cultural psychic torture that they under-go nowadays so they seek to more extreme levels to counteract the tolerance they've accrued. or of course this is and has always been the unfortunate nature of women. a nature that demands violence and only knowns it truly exists in the man she chooses if he brings her near the edge of death.

>> No.19507459

I absolutely detest my life and the world, the more I live the more bitterness overwhelms me. Indeed I wish a thunder could strike me and leave me dead, if I look back to what my life has been so far I can't really think of any moment of happiness bar very few exceptions. I wake up hoping the night will come fast and that I won't wake up again. Everything I do ends up with a major disappointment and every person I meet reveals himself as awful. There is nothing good left in this revolting pigsty of a planet, everything virtuous has been buried under a load of filth and vice and the stench of rottenness pervades every aspect of life. I fear that I will never be able to find the peace, comfort and love I long for. Every day that passes I beg God to end it all and exterminate us all or, at the very least, put an end to my agony.

>> No.19507493

I hope love outlasts hate in future.

>> No.19507518

>>19507431
>50
only 21 years left

>> No.19507537

What a horrible state of the board currently. I wish i was reading instead

>> No.19507680

>>19507459
Why don't you hang out with all the other stupid fuckers who say stuff exactly like this?

>> No.19507712
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There are too many books and too little time.

>> No.19507730

>>19507712
how to know which ones are the good ones?

>> No.19507750

>>19507730
I don't really know. I trust anons, so I use charts posted here.

>> No.19507752

>>19507730
/lit/ charts

>> No.19507856

>>19507730
The truth is you need to know when to stop reading a book. There's no reason to slog through a bad book.

>> No.19507869

>>19503114
tl;dr u wanna go paradise? you bad boy! you go hell!

>> No.19507905

God is funny
I should be dead
Not dead yet
Hopeless
but God creates every moment
there is no causality
what is there even to hope for?
now if I could only forget about women...

>> No.19507917

>>19507905
I honestly don't know if I could be much more broken. I'm sure most Aushwitz-survivors adjusted a lot better than I have

>> No.19507952

>>19503114
>We don't understand that life is heaven, for we have only to understand that and it will at once be fulfilled in all its beauty, we shall embrace each other and weep.
Your belief is what shuts you off from love and happiness.

>> No.19508072

i'm so fucked it ain't even funny. please God make it so you are enough for me. it sure don't seem like I will be getting much else, and it sure do seem like I have a hard time giving it up either way

>> No.19508437

>>19500043
I am trying to decipher the inner workings of racism, and the best place to start is my own. I seem to be capable of racism to those of the members of the target group who deserve being thought of that way and who fit the stereotypes pathetically, but not the group as a whole. This is contradictory because the definition of racism is prejudice held against an entire group in essence. Yet, there is still a degree of racism, because I am not viewing the individual in terms of their own character or dispositions as a theory to explain their actions. I instead subsume them to the racial stereotypes. I suppose it is their fault for being so predictable. There's a certain inverted, "bottom up" rather than "top-down" aspect this kind of prejudice, because the subject of it is the one who forces my judgement through their behavior, whereas I am prepared to give any given individual of the category the benefit of the doubt until they ruined it.

Ethically you could make the case that it is still wrong for me to hold these sentiments, but they are not voluntary, which ought to excuse me of some culpability.

One thing I do is that I don't hold preconceptions based on skin color, but on behavior, then retroactively associate that with the appearance of the racialiized agent. I don't start with skin color and anticipate the behavior on that basis alone. That does not strike me as a valid inference.

Therefore I conclude that logically speaking, some recipients of racist sentiments are responsible for being thought of that way . People have a low opinion of their race because of people like them.

Though politically incorrect--much truth is--I think the above provides some part of the puzzle to solving racism.

>> No.19508663

>>19508437
Revisiting this, the real reason it's wrong is that it's disrespectful to the members of the racial group I don't hold in contempt to carry around associations connected to their appearance. Though the members of their race who are the root source of the stereotype are equally to be blamed.

>> No.19508692

>>19508437
I find racism very uncomfy unless its lighthearted like mocking English people with chavspeak or Indians with "sirs". The
/lit/ nigger book did make me lol though. But really I dont like actual hatred of other races, it bothers me.

But I'm pretty much sure that the races are not equal because of the iq studies and stuff.

>> No.19509049

>>19500043
SO IMPRESSED WITH ALL YOU DO
TRIED SO HARD TO BE LIKE YOU
FLEW TOO HIGH AND BURNT THE WING
LOST MY FAITH IN EVERYTHING

>> No.19509062
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Duck

>> No.19509153

Thinking of finally getting my life together at last. Should I apply for financial aid for Spring semester at my local community college or save up some money as I buckle down on work and push it to Summer and Fall?

>> No.19509166

>>19506927
that's just a girl, retarded leftist freak.

>> No.19509472
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19509472

>As for the meaning of “altruism” at the level of state power, one gay historian I know suggested an old Latin motto: salus populi suprema lex. This is not a Lexus slogan but has been translated, by my gay friend, as “the health of the people is the supreme law.” Since it is the state motto of Missouri, it can’t be racist. If we define salus populi as “altruism” and suprema lex as “domination,” we have defined our quarry—in Latin. Which you may think is gay, but is actually pretty cool.

>> No.19509589

WHEN are people going to stop putting up with these retarded vaccine boosters and mandates? When will people realize that it's a whole bunch of fear mongering?

>> No.19509596

I am spending time going through and writing a few paragraphs about each book I've read this year. It's been a great reading year.

>> No.19509745

It’s quite difficult to feel myself a man when living at home with Dad

>> No.19509755

>>19509589
>preaching government conspiracy
>accusing others of fearmongering

>> No.19509767

>>19509755
Who mentioned government conspiracy?

>> No.19509808

A lifetime of undiagnosed autism- always being bullied, never feeling comfortable, never fitting in, wondering why everyone around me is having so much fun with so much ease, while I panic over basic social interaction. The agitation from feeling constantly under siege from life, and having no one to share this pain with, broke me earlier this year. I had a major manic episode and was consequently locked in a psychiatric ward for it. I was diagnosed with bipolar, autism, depression, anxiety etc, and by virtue of my autism, I had no one there for me: all my ‘friends’ distanced themselves from me and I was alienated even more from my family because their sane and stable child had turned hysterical. And here I am, utterly alone, paralysed by life and sedated my medication just so I don’t hurt and kill myself. I don’t even know what’s going on anymore, a year ago I really thought everything would be ok but the inevitability of autism caught up with me. How am I supposed to know who I can trust when I am endeared to love whenever I am given even the smallest amount of affection? How am I not supposed to give all of myself to someone who does not outright reject it when the surface is scratched away? And how do I deal with the sorry fact all of me is never enough? I am always going to love more than I am loved, I will never find my place because the monumental effort it takes me to be maintain regular friendships cannot be sustained to carry anything with actual emotional depth. I am terrified of revealing myself but I am desperate for someone to know who I am. I am so lonely, but who in their right mind would want to share my pain when I only irritate in return? An autistic life is not worth living, on the edge and ostracised from humanity the parts of life that make it tolerable aren’t available, and while none of those life affirming pleasures are available, all the horrible miseries are. Despite this, I am expected to live like a normal human being amongst everyone else and pretend nothing is wrong; pretend I don’t feel like punching my face when I stutter in conversation; pretend the lights aren’t too much for me; pretend the music isn’t too loud; pretend ‘I’m ok’. I cannot accurately describe the sadness and pain I have felt this past year but it has illuminated to me that it is all pointless, all this suffering and pretending is to no end because there is no end for me, I will never find where I fit in because it doesn’t exist. A loveless life alone is not worth living.

>> No.19509835

>>19509767
Curious you ignore the other half of that, which will give you your answer

>> No.19509848

>>19509808
Just channel your autism into work or a hobby. The single-minded can achieve the greatest heights.

>> No.19509856

Should people with impulse for art and literature just devote themselves to something else?

>> No.19509858

>>19509589
I do not know. There is no end in sight. I am genuinely depressed about it and I am feel like I am living in the twilight zone. I do not think I will ever be the same, I have lost a lot of trust in society. It is just to easy to make people fearful.

>> No.19509863

>>19509848
It doesn't work like that.

>> No.19509865

>>19509835
Criticizing shitty policies does not intrinsically conclude your "government conspiracy" boogeyman you stupid disingenuous faggot. Shut the fuck up.

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>>19509863
Forgoing social contact gives you a lot of free time which you can use to dedicate towards a hobby. The social contacts will follow.

>> No.19509897

>>19509873
My hobby is reading you faggot. And I went to University to do English, I know what sort of company reading brings and it doesn't agree with me.

>> No.19509907

>>19509897
Are you doing a PhD?

>> No.19509915

>>19509907
No I graduated this year. I don't want to go back though because it was honestly the worst 3 years of my life and I want to put education behind me. And sorry for calling you a faggot btw.

>> No.19509923

>>19500595
They can't help me I'm off the books kek

>> No.19510084

sexyboobs.jpg
>obvious political bait
Books for this feel?

>> No.19510255

I want to say that I've made peace with me being forever a virgin but it still hurts. Maybe Im being punished by deprivation of the most simple things.

>> No.19510292

Sex is existential boredom. I resent how dumb it is. And how it makes me precisely as stupid as any animal that fucks. I hate how it overrides, interrupts, distracts. Sex without the two holiest consequences of it, a child or a closerness, leaves only shame or dirt in its wake. The very object which was once so entrancing while under the sex spell, instantly after the deed becomes an a thing of disgust in the most jarring of reversals. I did not consent to this any more than I consented to hunger. It is hopeless to escape it.

Perhaps this is why the great religions are so cautious about sex. It is to protect the soul. For it is such a powerful, destructive thing despite, or perhaps for the very reason that it is the ultimate focal point of life, the impulse behind it all, an aspect of God or a profane little god of its own.

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>>19500305
I wish I could enjoy loli as I did as a teenager. I really don't get anything from porn now and it kinda sucks. It's an easy on demand pleasure and I can't enjoy it.
Aside from music and food I don't enjoy anything really

>> No.19510522

im so desperate for something new to watch im considering watching anime

i dont want to be a weeb bros, these are dire times

>> No.19510591

There are calluses on the head of my penis

>> No.19510594

>>19500194
Thats funny. i had a dream the american regime was holocausting me for being a nazi. I woke up feeling very confused

>> No.19510596

>>19500595
Therapy is for fags

>> No.19510602

>>19500436
German

>> No.19510606

>>19500950
I hate when people talk about the brain as if it is its own agent independent of the Self

>> No.19510610

>>19501655
Angela Carter

>> No.19510622

>>19502184
The boomers in my life were recently sittinf around talking about how young people have no drive to attain a good career. They just get by with what they need and never desire to rise above. Boomers really are lost. But their heads are so far up their asses that they cant be salvaged

>> No.19510872

greedy algorithms perform the most valuable action from their current perspective without consideration for future repercussions at every moment, thrifty algorithms try to compute the optimum move distributed across time. This is local vs global optimums

i think greedy algorithms are very biological and I think it's very exciting to align yourself with your inbuilt greedy algorithm, perhaps alienation from the self occurs when you stray to far away from your greedy algorithm, trying to compute global optimum moves

>> No.19510877

>>19506927
I also was very attracted to a trans guy twice my age before he transitioned. Nothing happened; he would appear in my dreams; I didn't know how to feel about it either.

>> No.19510965

I can only muster my strength to read some manga

>> No.19511118

1"I heard you"
2"I heard you too"
...
2"It seems we're gonna have to get married and have kids"
1"Kids too?"
2"You haven't met our son? He's a complete idiot like me, but he loves you, oh does he love you.."

She's 1, obviously.

>> No.19511202

>>19510606
It kinda is though. Do you choose when and what you dream about? Do you choose to feel negative emotions when bad stuff happens? Do you choose your first response when you are faced with anything outside your body? Do you choose how you repress traumatic memories? Do you choose at least your likes and dislikes? Does anyone ever choose to suddenly get mentally ill? No? Then it is safe to assume that the brain can and will act independently of the conscious self sometimes.

>> No.19511235

>>19511202
this guy gets it

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>>19500043
If you press a communist on how the "stateless classless society" will actually function the inevitably start describing something very much like a state stealing your stuff, forcing you to do things, and killing you if you disagree

>> No.19511412

>>19510325
I never really liked loli. Even back then. Just that the way this particular artist created made my dick tingle. Although, it's not even technically "loli" even if you'd count it.

>> No.19511672

>>19511412
Just don’t act on this bad urge anymore anon. Praying for your everlasting soul.

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>>19511672
You're right anon. Shit like this ain't good for my health and soul. I'm just down bad.

>> No.19511845

I probably did enough to bury this place and to help out some anons.

>> No.19511912

>>19509808
I'm so sorry man. I feel like a "lightweight" version of you. Why don't you try to write a book?

>> No.19511978

>>19500043
I think I have failed my younger brother. I have issues expressing and dealing with negative emotions, so many years ago I thought I'd try to be a better example for my brother. But it seems he has followed my path as well. He too struggles with expressing negative emotions and becomes very closed off and secretive.

I see him as a mirror to myself and my own actions, and it is absolutely terrifying.

>> No.19512013

>>19511978
just set a different example

>> No.19512021

>>19511845
>4chan is . . . le BAD!!
pseud alert

>> No.19512043

>>19512021
It isn't, anons are the main problem and can't do anything decent with their freedom. It is all about getting worse.

>> No.19512050

>>19512013
I tried. I noticed the ways in which my father failed me and tried to set a better example for my younger brother. But I see before my eyes that I failed

>> No.19512057

>>19500305
loli is mainstream now. type Hentai into google and click the first link. the top of hentaihaven has only SIX tabs. one of those tabs is "young" which is literally just a more acceptable way to say loli, filled with cartoon children getting raped.
maybe you should feel guilty about it, but that shit is extremely popular to the extent that the largest hentai site on the planet is massively pushing it

>> No.19512059

I hate you; I wish you were dead.

>> No.19512101

>>19512059
Nice use of the semi colon

>> No.19512109

>>19512057
Only perverts read hentai anyway

>> No.19512186

>>19500194
I once saw this lady in a dream. I was at a friend’s house and got the key to his shed. I knew he was a friend. I ran into his mother along the way. She was going to the basement. I knew she was his mother. She was glad she bumped into me. She needed the key to open the door. I opened it for her. Strangely, like a dog that smells a bitch in heat, I instinctually knew she was going there to masturbate. I asked her with sly confidence if she needed some “help”. She obliged as if she was expecting the offer, melting into one another on the furnished basement’s couch. Each kiss felt more real than the last. Baffling how accurately detailed your brain can mimic reality. Tricked senses, leather cushioning, sweat induced, skin on skin tightly gripped for her pleasure. We never did more than kiss. Funny how unfulfilled dreams tend to linger the most.

>> No.19512246

How to people remain socialist after having talked to the average person?

>> No.19512304

>>19512246
work the balls

>> No.19512368

I've become unable to trust other people. I am a loner and I love living like that, lately with the pandemic, I realized how people try to bond with other people out of fear of what society can do to a loner. So is basically people pushing to marry, love and procreate in order to survive. This has left me in despair. I can't believe in love of your other half I can only see people reuniting out of fear. Maybe there is something wrong with me but I also realized the worst people you can befriend are the ones you share most tastes in common because sooner than later you would find out you like the same things for the most diferent and irreconcilable reasons, by then you are actually aware hell is really other people.

>> No.19512429

>>19512368
Love and general companionship is its own reward.
The biological benefits are as deep as all nature. Look at viruses, they stick together to live. More complex beings like their alone time, but others enrich us as much as threaten.

>> No.19512585

When I work out during the day I can't focus on reading anything later in the day. The solution probably is working out at night.

>> No.19512601

>>19512585
I think it’s learning to focus

>> No.19512623

The society I consider "ideal" is one which I would hate to live in.

>> No.19512632

>>19512623
Tell us more about it. I don't think I would enjoy living in anything in particular. I'm fine as long there is somewhat decent food and internet to download books.

>> No.19512663

I remembered today that I have a bunch of books my friend lent me and I haven't started any of them. I'm not particularly in the mood for any of them, because they're all essentially "learn how to be emotional/human" books. Not that I'm against them, just of the ones I've read, Alan Watts puts it better. In fewer words.

>> No.19512720

>>19512632
When I say "ideal society", I mean one which will outlast and outcompete all others. It would be a society which would never be on the receiving end of colonization or conquest.
These are the traits such a society would have:
>Desire to explore and conquer and spread
The ideal society would always seek to spread out, to expand. First on their lands, then on their continent, then global, then to other planets. Always growing. If it does not grow like this, someone else will, and grow into them.
>Fanaticism
It could be religion, or a mythos, or a personality cult or a political ideology. But some vein of truly irrational, fanatic belief is needed to keep this society going. If it falls to apathy, another, fanatic society will overrun them.
>Extremely high birthrates
The machine of this society needs people, people to fight, to develop technology, to outbreed other groups and motivate expansion. This probably the most important aspect of the "ideal society", as it powers the others. If it has a low birthrate, it will be conquered by a society with a higher birthrate.
>Eugenics
Always a society must seek to improve itself, to create smarter, stronger, more virile, more ruthless people. An eugenics policy to ensure this would be essential, so the society would become better with each passing generation. A society which rejects eugenics will be outcompeted by a society which embraces it and is thus better.
>Delight in cruelty
Empathy and kindness lead to situations where conquered people can grow, and a large resentful underclass means revolution and the fall of the ideal society. The only option for the ideal society is to delight in the genocide and destruction of all who do not belong to it, and of those within it who are not helping in the eternal growth. Any leeway on this leads to inevitable overthrow.
>Focus on technological advancement/industry
A society which is not technologically advancing is stagnating and will be overrun by a more technologically advanced one. Technological growth is essential.

This is quite a terrible society to live in, but it will outcompete all others. If a society has all these traits, it will win. As a result, I feel quite despondent over the ultimate fate of civilization.

>> No.19512748

I was sitting alone watching a fire last night, no other sounds, and I was thinking about the amount of truth contained in the flame and how fire never repeats itself.
Just an endless progression of similar but unique patterns of sound and light, dancing figures as solid is transformed back into heat and the ether, both life giving and destructive.
I could probably stumble along in my way for hours and never quite capture the feeling of staring into the coals, so maybe in a small way you can experience it with me and tell me what comes to your mind.
I posted a short video here.

https://twitter.com/bobverguba/status/1466927628955406348?s=21

>> No.19512767

post ID 19512720 is the most worthless post I have ever seen

>> No.19512778

>>19512767
Disprove it then. I don't want to be right on this.

>> No.19512811

>>19512778
there is nothing to disprove, you have invented a boogeyman that can only exist in a fantasy vacuum and you have made yourself scared of it
zero value

>> No.19512826

>>19512043
>anons are the main problem
BE the change you wish to see in the world anon.

>> No.19512850

>>19512811
>you have invented a boogeyman that can only exist in a fantasy vacuum and you have made yourself scared of it
That's the thing, it isn't a fantasy, It is the inevitable end state of humanity. Why? Because the societies which weren't like this will die out, be conquered, etc. All that will be left is this "ideal" one.

Read https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/, it's what got me started on this line of thought, and I have yet to find a rebuttal of it.

>> No.19512918
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19512918

look at this society I created

any thoughts?

>> No.19512938

>>19512918
deep anon very deep
when can i paypal you the 300 mil?

>> No.19512949
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19512949

For the past few months now, the idea of having a wife and owning property has made my dick hard. I'm an unashamed coomer and have never in my life experienced post nut shame, but when I look at myself in the mirror and I see a man who is not complete, who is not making babies, who is not supporting his family. I feel what I imagine post nut shame feels like.

>> No.19513044

>>19512918
A Pojagi?

>>19512720
It’s nonsense. These things collapse as a feature. “Winning” will simply result in the usual social suicide

>> No.19513095

>>19512949
fucking do it anon holy shit

I'm turning 29, and just fell for my first crush in a decade. I've never seen a woman who matched my body so perfectly. We're like identical waveforms. I always wondered how my parents found each other, that legendary meeting, but now I understand. When you see the one that fits, you know what she wants. There's no doubt, because you just know. Whether society allows it is another question..

>> No.19513100

This hotel room is boring and gay I wish I brought another book with me.

>> No.19513106

>>19513095
I am 23
No diploma
No job
I live with my grandmother
I am young and I know I have a lot of time but it feels like there's just so far to go.

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>>19513095
Whether society allows it is another question..

>> No.19513133

>>19513106
That sounds comfy, great base. Get a male role model. Job or friend, the role model is the important part. I spent plenty of months sitting in the house cooming, I regret them. You're entitled to them, but my advice is to get up and out, or at least chill with people IRL.

>> No.19513261

>>19513106
Big news: You don't have time but you can lie to yourself about it.

>> No.19513268

>>19513095
Kidnapping is a crime.

>> No.19513273

>>19513095
My parents met because my dad was a chad who fucked every woman he saw and she got pregant

>> No.19513376

My family comes from France and I’ve always felt that I should learn French because of that heritage but personally, I’m more interested in German so I don’t know which I should go with. Realistically, I will only learn one particularly well enough.

>> No.19513395

>>19513133
I'm going to try to go the stalwart independent route. I will build my castle brick by brick with my own two hands. Also yeah I'll keep cooming.

>>19513261
You misunderstand my meaning, anon. I'm not saying I have time to start, I'm saying I have time to get it done.

>> No.19513403

>>19513261
If he starts right away he MIGHT have the chance to salvage something. Otherwise it's over.

>> No.19513409

>>19513403
One of the most significant pieces of wisdom anyone over 50 will tell you is that all you really have is time.

>> No.19513414

>>19513106
I unironically started college at age 27. Currently at age 32 and I'm thinking about starting all over again.

>> No.19513449

I am a man, so take this with a grain of salt. But women have been sold a form of feminism which really isn't feminist. Now, you might say that as a man, I don't have any grounds to speak on. Fair enough! But let's look at this feminism. A woman is encouraged to be used by different men who will pass in and out of her life, and she is told that is sexual liberation. A woman is told that starting a family is keeping her from her true potential, and that material pleasures are what she should focus on. A woman is told that a career is what she needs, but for decades women were assaulted and abused in offices across the world.

The truth is that this western feminism is exploitative to the extreme. Maybe it didn't start that way, but that's what it is. In the eyes of these "feminists", women are a source of labor and a group from which to extract wealth and sexual pleasure. Certainly, women have gained rights from this, but that is a side effect of the true intentions of this movement.

Now you might ask me what real feminism would look like. I don't have a complete image, just ideas. I got them from thinking "If I had a daughter, what sort of feminist movement would I like for her to be protected and empowered by?" I would like to ensure her education and career could proceed without harassment. I would like for her to be taught to value herself, to not debase herself sexually. I would like for her to understand the place of the family in a feminist light, and to reject exploitation of her labor, body, mind and wealth.

>> No.19513468

>>19513449
Yes, the feminist movement started out this bad. A fact that people don't want to engage with these days, is that the most empowering thing a woman can do is love and support her family.

>> No.19513523

>>19513449
>A woman is encouraged to be used by different men who will pass in and out of her life, and she is told that is sexual liberation.
They enjoy sex as much as men do, anon.
A woman is told that starting a family is keeping her from her true potential, and that material pleasures are what she should focus on.
This is usually about a choice, but yes, if she does feel like doing something, having a regular family that she can't focus on whatever she feels like accomplishing in life will get in her way.
>A woman is told that a career is what she needs, but for decades women were assaulted and abused in offices across the world.
It is mainly about a choice, but yes, you are somewhat right. Families are working (to other people) more in general.

Yes, you are not wrong, but it is mainly about giving freedom to women, to choose and act on their own lives. Check out Beauvoir's book, it is not a hard read or anything.

>> No.19513555

>>19513449
Freedom without education is no freedom at all. Just makes them easier to exploit, lets them make harmful choices.

>> No.19513578

>>19501992

This story is fiction and crowds normally behave the way depicted. Normies don't care about morality or passive virtues, they secretly resp ct murderers and other criminals

>> No.19513605

>>19513523
Everyone enjoys cocaine, is making cocaine a socially acceptable drug "liberation"?
No you fucking twit, his entire point is that it's enabling self destructive behavior.

Choice is not liberation when one of the choices is propaganda they've been fed their whole lives...

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>>19513578
>This story is fiction
>But also its true

>> No.19513612

>>19513578
normies respect rebels and outlaws, not petty criminals and murderers. and just because they respect them doesn't mean they agree with their actions. It's mostly a "wow that took balls" kind of thing.

>> No.19513624

>>19513609

Yes, I meant that it's true in spirit. You understand that that in America normies are becoming increasingly unvirtuous and degenerate? Being a devout Christian is harder than ever these days

>> No.19513649

>>19513624
As someone who has family members in the 12 step program, I can't help but laugh a this "devout christian good" thing. If you want a better society, promote specific values and principles, don't blindly promote an entire religion.
Also, which christian?
>Baptist
>Methodist
>Presbyterian
>Orthodox
>Episcopal
>Catholic
>Lutheran
>Reformed
>Spirit-Filled
>Christ Church

>> No.19513653

>>19513273
t. Ngubu O'Malley

>> No.19513789

I am surprised how interesting is to talk with a satanist.

>> No.19513809

>>19513789
It's like that meme "I educated myself on race so I could be racist more accurately" but with religion.

>> No.19513849

>>19513809
KEK

>> No.19513855

the absolute cutest girl I've ever seen in my life walked in to my work today, I swear its like I touched a livewire, I haven't felt that alive in years

>> No.19513884

Reading Beyond Good and Evil. He sounds like an angry schizo in the first chapter must read further

>> No.19513899

>>19513653
My dad is actually irish ironically. My mom is just white trash who fucks literally everyone.

>> No.19513902

>>19513809
>tell a Satanist we ate the placenta after the birth
>he is appalled
I swear to god these fucking posers

>> No.19513931

>>19513855
love this

>> No.19513955

>>19513855
I know that feel. saw this absolutely gorgeous girl in a parking lot today. I had already masturbated multiple times but my dick still managed to twitch

>> No.19513977

I think I'm not masculine enough. Sometimes when I watch porn the dude pins the girl down and fucks her like crazy and I just think, "Damn when was the last time I wanted to do that?". I usually prefer femdom actually. The point is maybe it's a bad thing to be this way.

>> No.19513995

>>19513977
Yeah it is unhealthy. Your desire for femdom is probably a symptom. When I felt immasculated I was into it too. But when I started improving as a man and gained some self esteem I suddenly wanted to dominate women

>> No.19514004

>>19513855
I never look at peoples face so my sample size is lower but when I see someone who is facially beautifull it is odd. I would say most healthy people are beautifully ordered by having natural symetry etc... but fascial beauty is weird like the ordered beuty of the body is scaled and duplicated agian. I suppose it makes sense that I find it hard not to stare at a beautiful person like some cannot help but stare at the deformed.

>> No.19514089

>>19513995
Makes sense. Women do get attracted to pretty boys, but that's more of an appearance thing - they still want you to be masculine no matter what, and will feel subconsciously unsatisfied until they have a masculine guy in their lives. I think we as a society have downplayed the importance of masculinity as a trait because it "enforces gender roles" or whatever, but being masculine as a guy means being able to assert yourself, not taking shit from anybody, and having confidence and strength to fight for what's right. This is something (american) society understood better in the past, but people began to associate masculinity with irrationality and violence, so men and women are treated the same culturally which kinda screws things up. Guys need to learn it's a good thing to be masculine, just like it's good to have self-confidence. I think that's the crux of it.

>> No.19514164

>>19513902
Satanism isn't Satan worship anon...

>> No.19514169

I love globo homo and you can't stop me. I'm going to root a chick of every race. I'm going to breed white people out of existence.

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>ywn be this effy
I cannot cope with this

>> No.19514196

I saw a documentary about peguins not so long ago.
The guy - Herzog I think - asks the scientists about insanity in penguins, does it exist, do they feel it, how does it manifest, and all the usual stuff.
In the frozen plains of Antartica, all of the penguins were heading either to the colony or to the feeding grounds in groups, as penguins do. But one penguin stopped in the middle of the crossroads, looking intently into the mountains far away. Instead of going along with the other penguins, our little hero - and he is a hero in my eyes - started going towards the oh-so-far away mountains, leaving his penguin bretheren aside.
That brief moment where he stopped, and looked towards the horizont, It captured my mind and I simply couldnt stop thinking about what he thought then. To go there, far away from any normal places of penguin activity -no food, no shelter, no company - was to go into ceartin death for any penguin, something that the scientist called "disorintation" and "confusion". Even if we as humans intervined to put him back to the colony where he belongs, the scientist said that the penguin will still go towards the mountains he set his eyes upon the first chance he gets.
They followed him for some time, the scientists that is, and when he got to the base of the mountain range, they let him continue on his journey unobserved.
Ask yourself, because deep down you might know, what did the penguin see in those mountains? Was it for a lack of understanding he went, some kind of confused penguin thought that led him there?
Oh how I cried for my little penguin when I understood the truth, I realised what I feel is what he feels and all our vast differences are nothing compared to this bond we share. I didnt cry because he died, I cried because I knew I would never get to tell him I know how he feels, how he is my brother now, always was, and always will be, how I love his penguin heart with all of my human heart, and that I would give my life a thousand times if it meant I could stop somebody from restricting him to go. I truly love him for this inexpressible bond we share, and we always shared, and we will always share. But most of all, I cried tears of happiness, because I knew that noone stopped him, and that he found what he was looking for.
Ever since I realised this, my life improved significatly. Everywhere I go, anything that happends, I keep my little hero in heart and mind until one day, I venture into my own mountains. Maybe I will even find him there, waiting for his old friend to come.

How is my writing bros? Its a excerpt from my diary

>> No.19514209

>>19514196
You write very gay like you're half heartedly writing a young adult novel. But whatever, I'm sure your a nice person I don't mean to be rude.

>> No.19514223

I'm so fucking horny all the time I will fuck anything that walks

>> No.19514226
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19514226

Reading Dracula, I really like the Dr Van Helsing character

>> No.19514236

>>19514209
Thats okay man, I just get very emotional with animals and I tried to exaggerated it as much as I could. Any tips on how to improve? I find all of my own writing very cringe so I cant really judge how it goes on to other people

>> No.19514260

>>19514196
Your writing is more embellished then not. It can be good but it needs to be reread a lot so the syntax and ornaments are not out of place. If they stick out the writing will be less liquid which can be intentionally used to jar the reader.
The content is very sentimental and emotional, reminds me of journalistic articles. As a loony contrarian is annoying but that's more opinion then anything
>>19514164
semantically for some groups sure. Though this is rare case of an inverted "no true scotsman"

>> No.19514278

>>19514260
>Though this is rare case of an inverted "no true scotsman"
not even slightly
"satanism" is the name of a specific quasi religious anti religious group that call themselves "satanissts", not to be confused with "satan worshipers" who are more accurately called occultists.

>> No.19514289

>>19514278
ah was not even aware of them. Is that in the United States?

>> No.19514300

>>19514289
Oh yeah, here check this out. It's funny but accurate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

>> No.19514303

>>19514236
What makes it cringe is that its very cliche. Shit like the "oh-so-far away" are obviously included to give the writing personality but it has the opposite effect because it sounds like you are aping someone else's style but not very well. George Orwell has good writing advice on clichés, basically if you think you've heard it said before then don't use it.

>> No.19514369

>>19500043
The medication I'm on is blocking my ability to think creatively, but I hate falling back on it as an excuse to why I'm not writing or doing anything creative.
I'm excited for my time on these meds to come to an end as I feel suffocated. The doctors want me to "stick to the plan" thus no changes are going to occur.
So here I am, complaining to you guys, people whom I will never meet. Have yourselves a lovely morning, midday, or midnight.

>> No.19514375

>>19514369
This but there is no medication involved. It just fucking stopped one day. I have notebooks full of ideas and doodles but I haven't written anything in them in months. Nothing in my diet or lifestyle has changed. I am worried.

>> No.19514596

>>19500043
I be horny

>> No.19514647

have any of you watched Arcane?
if so, what was your opinion on the writing?

>> No.19514661

>>19500043
I want to submerge myself completely into some sorts of a trance-like mode, to recalibrate and consolidate.

>> No.19514721

A lot of setbacks this year, a lot of time wasted on bullshit people and addictions. But I still feel much better than I did going into this year.

>> No.19514894

I love dating apps. It is window shopping human beings. There is something so perverse and vile about it and it kind of gets me off.

>> No.19514898

>>19500043
I just can’t stop picking up teen girls. Idk how incels exist. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel

>> No.19514927

>>19514898
u- uncle anon? is this where you've been? come back to /fit/ we miss you :(

>> No.19514983

>>19514898
Where do you pick them up

>> No.19514988

>>19514898
T Chad

>> No.19515043
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I've gone out long enough to know that there's a certain type of people that confuses and baffles me. These kind of people seem incredibly inquisitive at first but you start to wonder whether they just ask questions for the heck of it or because they're not exactly listening.
If you tell them, for example, 2+2 = 4. They'll go on to ask "3+1=4 right? And 5-1? And 2x2?" And so forth. Or if you say the wind is coming from the west, they'll ask which way is the east heading. Normally I'd be fine answering but maybe it's my autism but if every conversation is like this, I get kinda annoyed

>> No.19515362

being a zoomer with the capacity for self-reflection is truly the highest form of suffering

>> No.19515397

>>19515043
maybe you arent good at socializing and that it just people trying to keep a conversation going with you

>> No.19515414 [DELETED] 

man libraries are fucking insane u can just go in and take out any shit you want for free.

>> No.19515567

Some poems of mine got accepted for publication. I had legitimately thought it was over for me with all the rejections I was getting. Hallelujah.

>> No.19515713

On a reddit thread about a kid getting his ears pierced. A lot of people are against parents getting their children's ears pierced. This is a typical comment:

>Your right to practice culture or tradition ends where you are breaking someones bodily autonomy. Piercing a kid is a stupid and unnecessary risk, even if its a small one.

I am curious as to where this obsession with 'bodily autonomy' derives from. It seems to be something people are very passionate about and I wonder why. It's not that I don't agree that people should have bodily autonomy, it's just that it's not the highest priority issue for me. I couldn't give less of a shit if a kid getting their ears pierced? It's not the end of the world, even if it does technically violate your notion of bodily autonomy. It's just really, really not that important.

>> No.19515746

The idea of getting beaten up during sex turns me on an incredible amount. I don't mean like whips and shit, I want to be punched hard while fucking. I want to be hit by a truck.

>> No.19515792

>>19515746
It's adrenaline in you wanting more.

>> No.19515861

>>19505939
Each time I find myself flat on my face
I pick myself up again and get back in the race

>>19500043
I love my dog so much. I am sad that I will have children by the time he dies (barring any catastrophes) and I am sad that they will endure the grief of his death. I hope I can be strong enough to support us all and to utilize his death as a teaching moment for both me and my children. It's hard to think about. He feels like my first kid in so many ways.

>>19514647
Meh. Kind of one-dimensional and too many Strong Female Characters for my taste. The animation was fascinating though

>>19515567
Great job anon, congrations!

>> No.19515874

>>19500043
I wish i had a girlfriend

>> No.19515945 [DELETED] 

i keep seeing these stickers around critical of lockdowns and vaccine mandates that say at the bottom "join the white rose" looks kinda mysterious but i'm scared to scan their qr code

>> No.19515975

How many people are on /lit/? 50? Why is this board so fucking slow?

>> No.19515976

i cannot respect anyone who cannot embrace the malleability of political hypocrisy. if you arent willing to play the anti government anarchist on one day and the heavy boot of the fascist on another depending on what is needed to protect that which you care about, then its clear you are shallow human being who cares about shallow things.

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>>19515975
SHHHHH. Reading

>> No.19515995

>>19515976
This
Long live Rothbard-Chomsky-Hitler-Zedong Thought

>> No.19516002

>>19515978
>Reading
The Qu'ran ? Based.

>> No.19516009

>high iq lit lurkers can tell apart persistent posters by mere syntax and vocabulary

>> No.19516026

>>19500194
You are a bot. Androids don't dream of Electric Sneed. Cope, seethe, dilate after deleting system 32

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I love early Sunday morning, entire street is still asleep, fire is on, listening to comfy music. A nice time to post.

>> No.19516047

>>19516009
Sometimes, I can.
>The CCP shill anon who writes long effortposts about communism and signs off every post with a youtube link to commie propaganda
>The ISIS recruiter who spams the board with Islam threads and then disappears whenever the feds get too close
>The Finn who hates Tolkien
>The anon who calls global warming the "great cataclysm"

>> No.19516050

>>19515975
It's infinitely better when it's slow

>> No.19516053

>>19516047
They're all the same anon and that anon is me

>> No.19516083

i filtered all the meme words so only actual lit related threads show (41 hidden rn), this makes the board insanely slow.
>>19516047
i recognise three of these guys. my fave anon is ossianfag, haven't seen him in a while.

>> No.19516093

>>19516083
Show your filter

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>>19516093
i should add "BTFOs"

>> No.19516140

>>19516132
>solves
lmao

>> No.19516163

newest additions: phenomenology, refuted, refutes, refute, right wing, sex

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>>19516050
Depends on the quality of the threads. I think tonight is decent

>> No.19516293

I'm nervous about leaving my job at the end of this month not for any reason other than the fact that I can't be bothered going through all the cringe of saying goodbye to everyone. I would prefer to just ghost everyone, but I've been there so long that it would be impossible.

>> No.19516299

>>19500043
Utilitarianism is gay.

>> No.19516327

>>19516163
make sure you put a "solved" and "solve" in there

also remember that you can put an asterisk in order to make a letter a wild card space

>> No.19516339

>>19516327
>solve

Maybe I'm retarded but I browse this board daily and I don't get why you'd filter the word solve

>> No.19516340
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19516340

The biggest struggle is realizing the struggle isn't real.

>> No.19516341

I am angry at myself and everyone else.

>> No.19516351

>>19516341
That's pointless

>> No.19516354

>>19516339
>would x solve y?!?!!
>how do you solve x
>duur x totally solved y

>> No.19516365

>>19516354
weird I feel like I've never seen those threads

>> No.19516407
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19516407

I don't find women so attractive anymore, it feels like I'm looking at them through my pre-pubescent eyes. Also I fap a lot less now (I'm down to once a week). What's happening to me?

>> No.19516411

>>19516407
getting older

>> No.19516412

>>19516407
Once you get over the shock of the difference between the two pictures, she's not hideous without makeup. definitely not hot, but the initial shock warps perception a bit. Also, you are probably turning gay from drinking too much tap water.

>> No.19516552

>>19516132
you're doing it wrong, retard. making a shitpost OP with the explicit intent of sparking actual board-related discussion is an unspoken tradition on here, and when it's not the intent, it often happens organically. sometimes the best effortposts and discussion are found under shitpost and meme-based OPs. by mindlessly filtering meme words you're crippling the board experience for yourself. the only proper filter for content(spam, raids and rule-breaking shit aside) here is your own discernment on picking the jewels out of the dung.

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Got the flu so just sitting in bed listening to 'I'm so tired' by the Beatles. Want to write again because I haven't had time because of work in the last month or two I forget it's been so long. One of my best friends moved back to the city which was nice but she never makes time for me anymore so I'm pretty annoyed about that.
I haven't been on /lit/ in about a month or so either has anything changed? I know the writing general had gone to shit last I was here.

>> No.19517078

>>19516407
sounds like low t.

>> No.19517521

>>19516407
Bisexual drift.

>> No.19517556

>>19517521
you will never be a butterfly

>> No.19517665

Art is just a type of work you try to profit from, it can give you money, power, conections. I feel dissapointed about my stupid naive idea of art because it was arrogant and idealistic.