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I have been a far right wing crank on the internet for over ten years and the only time I hear about Moldbug is when someone here mentions someone from Twitter who is mentioning him. I never see him mentioned anywhere else except in connection with normalfags on Twitter.

>>19429130
he's american, he can't be right-wing desu

>>19429130
>thinks voting is the solution
lol

>>19429130
Jewish-incel psyop

HAHAHA THAT FUCKING LEATHER JACKET
HE'LL NEVER LIVE IT DOWN!!

He's literally just a philosopher. Its like a rightoid asking "whats the deal with marx????? secretly le wholesome hoity toity reddit chungus?? is this the left wings only hope???". Read some of his stuff and find out.

His writing style is painful, but he is probably one of the most anti establishment duders alive at this very moment, so I'd recommend read *some* of his blog posts to understand his worldview. Even if your not one of those "everything since the French revolution has been garbage reeee" type lads, you can still glean some insights.

he was more popular 10 years ago before the 'the alt right' and neo-neonazism and 4chan and twitter etc, had a widely read blog. Nowadays the only people that care are neoreaction spergs larping about monarchy, namely a few tech-sector dorks that are clueless about bigboy politics.

>>19429163
Moldbug still has some cachet with the Bap crowd. They seem to mostly agree with his view on power, they dont like talking about conspiracies and especially not js.

how is he right-wing?
how many push ups can he do?
how many children does he have?
how many people has he killed?

>>19429172
The BAP faggots don't like talking about the Jews? Hahaha they're even more gay and reddit than I figured

>>19429172
Ahh yeah you're right I actually forgot they still exist.

>>19429161
>anti establishment
he wants a technocracy where the elite rule over the peons... which is the current establishment

>>19429180
On the whole not really from what I can tell. They're not progs obviously, they'll make fun of js or call out the ADL or whatever, but they dont see them as being involved in power in a conspiracy way, just the old moldbug line about them being overrepresented for the same reason they get lots of nobels.

>>19429161
>a philosopher
>anti establishment duders
>duders

>>19429192
From what I can tell, he says 'there is nobody at the wheel, it's just a bureaucratic middle management mess that's taken on a mind of its own!' that SHOULD have a technocratic elite at the helm.

>>19429192
Didn't Saint-Simon and Comte already do this scientism technocracy utopia idea like 200 years ago, and it was already hideous then?

>>19429179
How many calories does he eat in a day?
What's his steroid cycle?
How many Jews have had epileptic seizures at his illegal tweets?

>>19429192
His whole shtick is that democracy means nobody rules, or rather "a decentralized holiness spiral in the ivy league schools rules". He thinks just putting some guy in charge, even a bad guy, would produce better results. He also had a bunch of autism about making the government into a joint stock company, cryptographic weapons, and city state darwinism, but its best to leave that stuff alone.

>>19429192
Please actually read his blog before posting in a moldbug thread.
>>19429195
seethe for you are either a communist or a rightiwinger, and either way, are the scum of the earth.

>>19429130
he's a good read. not right about everything. in the tradition of reactionary politics. and reactionary politics never win of course. Self-identified "neoreactionaries" are dumb and too rationalistic, or rather they hypostatize rationality into an idol– german idealism corrects their mistakes.

>>19429257
i read his blog and he was trying to look for a girlfriend and whinging about his dead wife, so i stopped reading his blog.

>>19429163
>these people are dumber and beneath me....because they have lots of money!
seemslegit

>>19429287
Now you have an understanding of neoreaction. I retract my past statement.

>>19429192
wrong

>>19429130
Join his poetry contest:
https://passageprize.com/

>>19430554
>Fagwave
I didn't realise he was a loser of this calibre

>>19430554
i dont understand the hype behind zero hp lovecraft
his writing is a sophomoric dfw rip off
he even uses 'and but so'

>>19430930
Sure but I'm not gonna pass up the chance to win 15k in prizes

>>19429130
https://youtu.be/bwL-VQC-eS8

>>19429234
the whole sovcorp thing is basically right though. A state is literally just a sovereign corporation that pretends not to be one right now. It's just a different way of viewing the state.

he was right, liberalism is doomed
https://palladiummag.com/2021/10/11/the-triumph-and-terror-of-wang-huning/

>>19431664
That's a pretty bad understanding of Moldbug. He really has a certain ability to make progs view him as the devil incarnate, whereas they see neonazis simply as clowns.

I honestly don't get why people call him a Neoreactionary, since it was never a term he identified as. He just said reactionary when he wanted to sound transgressive or simply monarchist. Did he ever talk about the problem with government by procedure? Which is basically what our current "democracies" are.

>>19429287
>i read his blog and he was trying to look for a girlfriend and whinging about his dead wife, so i stopped reading his blog
You mean you signed up to his email newsletter.
Go read UR and stop being a pseud

>>19431670
He was trying to square the circle of sovereignty by having a board of directors appoint the monarch

>>19431704
moldbug is not a serious thinker

>>19432292
he also has poor fashion sense. what is up with that jacket??

>>19431670
>>19429234
its not even pretending. the aristotilian modul uses the corpus (body) as the main concept, and it was used intellectually interchangably between a state and a private corporation (think Leviathain for an example, but the idea was used all acrose politics and corporations and still is, body without organs, etc)

>>19432292
Why not?

>>19431704
It's not that they see him as worse than neonazis, it's that they think he has a better shot of convincing people. The ironic thing about him is that he has probably produced a lot of neonaizs even though hes opposed to them. Telling people to hate the press and Harvard is going to make a lot of them hate Jews regardless of his arguments.

>>19432373
based moldbug pragmatist

>>19432257
I know but this guy explains what I was getting at>>19432357
Treating the state as fundamentally different from a corporation is a fairly new thing.

>>19432373
He doesn't outright tell people to hate the press or Harvard, they're perfectly good at getting people to hate them themselves, jewish academics too I'm afraid.

>Yarvin :Peterson: Ben Shapiro
Like Trump, he's yesterday's 90s Democrat, and wholly unremarkable and derivative for it. One more gatekeeper on the spiral of "Don't do anything actually nativist or nationalist about the 5th columns."

>>19429193
>overrepresented for the same reason they get lots of nobels
subversion good. disregard protocols. plagiarist fraud Einstein on madness, ect.

>>19431704
>He really has a certain ability to make progs view him as the devil incarnate
He is one and is showing them what's necessary to have their cake and eat it too, which they don't appreciate because it requires acknowledging unflattering things about themselves and their real motives.

>>19429234
>East India Company writ large
He's more dangerous than the unconscious reflexive Blue voter for it

>>19431726
Moldbug's deficient positive vision for the right demonstrates the need for a utopian and techno-futurist strategy reclaiming that from the memetic corpse god of the Workers Utopia.

>>19432450
>he's yesterday's 90s Democrat
Lmao
Ok liberal

>>19429192
No. The point of patchwork, which he doesn't talk much about lately is that you get the powers out of their bag. The elite, corporations etc. don't have to lobby government for things they want, they don't have to invest in propaganda to teach you that it's good for you(remember net neutrality? where's the death of internet?), they become the government and have to accept responsibility for governing, right now, they factually do rule, but the responsibility is on the taxpayer's. This would be a step towards what he sees as formalism, which by itself is just a constitutional theory for more decentralised society.

I disagree with him on this for various reasons but there's more to his argument than "gib big tech teh power".

>>19429130
is that the guy who is extremely opposed to scientific institutions because he thinks they just reproduce whatever already is established?
pretty lame take to be honest

>>19431664
>>19431704
The problem with this youtube video is it's basing NrX thought on a handful of youtubers like Endeavor and Academic Agent

It's going "well it looks more like the people running youtube channels are more interested in keeping their content going and keeping viewers than actually doing anything" which is... really just a criticism of the majority of political youtubers anyways.

>>19432507
No.

>>19432518
That guy has some axe to grind with AA and anyone who critiques the LTV. I think AA has offered to debate him before but to no avail.

I think Moldbug wrote somewhere that he would print out entire screeds and staple them to posts. Maybe it was sarcasm but the thought is funny nontheless.

>>19432565
moldbug's screeds and creeds
(formerly reactionary)

>>19432733
I don't get it

>>19429152
kek

>>19432507
>scientific institutions... just reproduce whatever already is established?
This is correct. They struggle to do a 180 on anything.

>>19429154
? He doesn't. He recommends not voting, disassociating and just letting the left eat itself.

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>>19434243
This guy fucks

>>19434308
she looks like a mongoloid

>>19434320
Pussy is still pussy. How many girls have you fucked from posting a personal ad on your political blog?

moldbug is a boring jew that i have never seen mentioned on pol or in rightwing circles, heck, even nick land is more relevant

>>19429179
Anon decodes the formula for being right-wing

>>19429130
Which of his works should i read to get a sense of his ideas?

>>19434479
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/

This is from 2008 but did a great job of defining a lot of the terms that the online right still operate on (eg "the Cathedral").

His Moldbug stuff is better (spicier ideas, better written) than later on when he drops the moniker for his real name, at least imo.

>>19430554
>zerohp
into the trash

>>19434781
>terms that the online right still operate on (eg "the Cathedral").

>>19429130
no need to read him
just watch his youtube videos
he's a seething hylic but has some interesting critiques of various shit and is a /his/ autist on certain subjects

>>19434479
Start with the open letter to the open minded progressives. And yes, his writing sucks.