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books defending slavery? not necessarily African slave trade slavery, just slavery in general

>> No.19417421

>>19417376
Aristotle's Politics

>> No.19417423

>>19417376
a biology textbook that implies the law of the jungle

>> No.19417441

>>19417376
Guénon justifies the caste system
but that's not really "slavery" is it

>> No.19417447

>>19417376
Not sure about whole books, but Carlyle's essay on the negro question is a classic. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000080778727&view=1up&seq=690&skin=2021

>> No.19417463

>>19417376
Nietzsche, if you can read him properly.
Also every advocate of AI and robots.

>> No.19417479

>>19417376
Cannibals all! by George Fitzhugh

>> No.19417924

>>19417376
what's going on in that webm

>> No.19418242

>>19417924
/lit/ stuff

>> No.19418270

>>19417376
>>19417423
>>19417421
>>19417441
>>19417447
>>19417463
Shut the fuck up niggers, slavery is objectively evil, there is no way to defend it rationally. We are literally the slaves of Jewish bankers and here you are trying to look for books to justify your bondage just so you can be an edgy contrarian on a Cantonese shrimp farming inageboard.
Fuck you.

>> No.19418276

>>19418270
The problem is in abuse of the slave not in slavery per se

>> No.19418287

>>19418276
Lol

>> No.19418296

the bible
i'm a unironically a christian and i fundamentally believe that slavery is not only justified by the word of my God but it is also a fundamental part of humanity for one to rule over the other.

>> No.19418305

>>19418276
>n-no you see I actually ENJOY my servile condition, massa’s boot is very tasty! It’s not the system that’s the problem it’s just those meant slave drivers that whip their servants excessively. Just a few bad apples, the system is fine otherwise!

>> No.19418339

>>19417441
Which book?

>> No.19418347

(The capitalist) with control over the labor that his capital gives him, is a slave owner - a master, without the obligations of a master. Those who work for you, those who create your income, are slaves, without the rights of slaves. Masterless Slaves.

The capital exerts a more perfect compulsion on free workers than human masters on slaves; because free workers must work at all times or go hungry, and slaves are supported, whether they work or not. Free workers have less freedom than slaves, are less paid and provided, and have no valuable rights. Slaves, with more real practical freedom, with a broader concession and constant protection, are assured in the enjoyment of all the rights that provide their physical comfort at all times and under all circumstances. The free worker must be employed or starve, but no one is obliged to employ him. The slave is cared for, whether he has a job or not. Although each free worker does not have a particular master, his needs and the capital of other men make him a slave without a master, or with too many masters, which is as bad as having none.

What is falsely called Free Society is a very recent invention. It proposes setting the weak, ignorant and poor free, releasing them into a world owned exclusively by a few (whom nature and education have strengthened, and whom property has hardened) to earn a living. In the imaginary state of nature, where property is not appropriated, the strong have no weapons but superior physical and mental power to oppress the weak. Their power of oppression increases a thousandfold when they become the sole owners of the land and everything in it. They are masters without the obligations of masters, and the poor are slaves without the rights of slaves.

>> No.19418356

>>19417924
a lonely man sees his one chance at happiness but it's just a prank video

>> No.19418361

>>19418347
what compels people to work in a non-capitalist system?

>> No.19418363

>>19418361
Sex

>> No.19418391

>>19417376
You're living in one

>> No.19418410

>>19418270
>life on this planet has never been better
Anti-slavery cucks BTFO
How will they ever recover?

>> No.19418488

>>19418270
but slavery of objectively evil people is good, its the only way they can contribute to anything

>> No.19418501

>>19418391
In a book?

>> No.19418597

>>19417376
Evola - Revolt Against the Modern World (gives a minor defense about 80 pages in)

>> No.19418662

>>19418410
Soulless is better to moderns

>> No.19418676

>>19418270
>evil
This is why you lose. You categorize certain behaviors as "evil" and eliminate a tool from your toolbelt. Meanwhile the jew does anything that works.

>> No.19418684

>>19417376
https://slaveryadvocate.com/category/pro-slavery-books/

>> No.19418685

>>19418410
>t. jew

>> No.19418713

>>19417924
Yakuza member about to escalator stomp a tranny for violating the NAP by touching him without consent.

>> No.19418728

>>19418296
*shoots*

>> No.19418821

>Slavery
>:(
>Modern "employment"
8D

>> No.19418863

>>19418821
At least slaves had job security.

>> No.19418871

>>19418296
This. Christ never once criticized the institution of slavery, despite using several parables that involved slaves. It was only until American Protestantism that they bend Christian theology to abolish it. And fuck Martin Luther King Jr. for ushering in the woke evangelical Christian era we're in today. "The arc of herp is long, but it bends toward herp derp."

>> No.19418872

>>19417421
Misleading. Aristotle's vision of "slavery" has so many addendums and moral stipulations that it is basically something else from what we view the concept as today.

>> No.19418886

>>19418871
*shoots*

>> No.19418911

>>19418886
Not an argument.

>> No.19418932

>>19418728
>>19418886
I don't understand how someone who constantly shills Nietzsche and Stirner be such a slave moralist.

>> No.19418945

FBI statistics.

>> No.19419037

>>19418356
>>19418713
which one is it??

>> No.19419121

Buddah

>> No.19419136

>>19418932
Would you rather I break you into your new role as a slave?

>> No.19419208

>>19419136
I'll break you as my property, hoe!

>> No.19419214

>>19419136
Like as a femdom kink? I'm down for that desu

>> No.19419262

>>19418270
lol this post is classic: uses racist slavery language belittling others and then bemoans self crippling state of being enslaved as a means to criticize 'masters' which is really just more fucking racism.
very impressive logic pretzel of idiocy cunt face.

>> No.19419269

>>19418871
>>19418296
jesus is on the side of the revolution and will not cry when you are up against the wall.

>> No.19419276

>>19417447
Yeah shits fucking hilarious.

>> No.19419282

>>19418871
I. Freedom and Responsibility

1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one's own responsibility. By free will one shapes one's own life. Human freedom is a force for growth and maturity in truth and goodness; it attains its perfection when directed toward God, our beatitude.

1732 As long as freedom has not bound itself definitively to its ultimate good which is God, there is the possibility of choosing between good and evil, and thus of growing in perfection or of failing and sinning. This freedom characterizes properly human acts. It is the basis of praise or blame, merit or reproach.

1733 The more one does what is good, the freer one becomes. There is no true freedom except in the service of what is good and just. the choice to disobey and do evil is an abuse of freedom and leads to "the slavery of sin."28

1734 Freedom makes man responsible for his acts to the extent that they are voluntary. Progress in virtue, knowledge of the good, and ascesis enhance the mastery of the will over its acts.

1735 Imputability and responsibility for an action can be diminished or even nullified by ignorance, inadvertence, duress, fear, habit, inordinate attachments, and other psychological or social factors.

1736 Every act directly willed is imputable to its author:

Thus the Lord asked Eve after the sin in the garden: "What is this that you have done?"29 He asked Cain the same question.30 The prophet Nathan questioned David in the same way after he committed adultery with the wife of Uriah and had him murdered.31
An action can be indirectly voluntary when it results from negligence regarding something one should have known or done: for example, an accident arising from ignorance of traffic laws.

1737 An effect can be tolerated without being willed by its agent; for instance, a mother's exhaustion from tending her sick child. A bad effect is not imputable if it was not willed either as an end or as a means of an action, e.g., a death a person incurs in aiding someone in danger. For a bad effect to be imputable it must be foreseeable and the agent must have the possibility of avoiding it, as in the case of manslaughter caused by a drunken driver.

1738 Freedom is exercised in relationships between human beings. Every human person, created in the image of God, has the natural right to be recognized as a free and responsible being. All owe to each other this duty of respect. the right to the exercise of freedom, especially in moral and religious matters, is an inalienable requirement of the dignity of the human person. This right must be recognized and protected by civil authority within the limits of the common good and public order.32

>> No.19419309

>>19417447
He's unironically right though

>> No.19419439

>>19418296
this. i still clearly remember some part of the bible that they read at a mass, something along the lines of
> your servant serves you right, brings you dinner and waits on the table, etc, but you do not thank him nor invite him to dine with you.
> you order him around and take it for a given.
i unironically expected it to be followed by "be kinder to your lessers" but it went
> this is the treatment you should expect from God. serve his orders and don't expect gratitude in return.
it puzzled me a great deal in that moment. I'm not a believer, and this passage made me thankful not to be one.

>> No.19419455

>>19419282
Already wrong in the very first sentence.

>> No.19419598

>>19419439
>it puzzled me a great deal in that moment. I'm not a believer, and this passage made me thankful not to be one.
This being because you're mad that religion holds hierarchy as a good thing means you're a faggot lmao

>> No.19419599

>>19419136
>would you rather me admit myself wrong
Go ahead peabrain

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>>19417924
>>19418356

>> No.19419660

>>19419599
If the trad caths around here like slavery so much, lets make them the slaves.

>> No.19419664

>>19419598
i respect duty and doing your part. but one who does it deserves gratitude and respect in return.
some people are bound to hard, high-risk, unpleasant positions because they are essential to society (dangerous jobs, etc), but some are tormented by their "owners" simply to attend to their petty needs. this isn't an honorable duty, but enslavement to someone's whims.

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>>19417376
John C. Calhoun

>> No.19419951

>>19418872
Liberal cope

>> No.19421033

I don't want to abuse them or nothing, I just need some help around the house ya know

>> No.19421230

>>19419660
A good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave.

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19421238

>>19417421
When he said “some people are born slaves”. He was talking about their souls.

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19421251

>>19418363
Typical commie. You got nothing. No response to the most basic of questions.

Seethe and seethe loser. Sucks to be poor.

>> No.19421254

>>19418270
In any society there are people below to be commanded and people above to be obeyed. For some people, too much freedom, and the responsibility that comes with it, is oppressive, while bondage guarantees safety and security. The important thing is that the master treats the slave with dignity, but without some form of recourse that cannot be guaranteed.

>> No.19421273

>>19418361
>>19421251
Says the merchant who’s system is motivated by fear and greed.

>> No.19421277

Anything written by Marx (pbuh)

>> No.19421326

>>19418361
their lord, pater familia or belly
it depends

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19421615

>>19421273
Still didn’t answer the question

Keep seething

>> No.19421665

>>19419269
>jesus is on the side of the revolution
>Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's

>> No.19421685

>>19421277
Literally this. Marx (pbuh) didn't moralize muh slavery.

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>>19421615
Caprice. The loves, actual necessity.
The motives of greed and fear will be muted, diminished to a human size for once

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19421760

>>19421690
Caprice!
>suddenly, I feel like risking my life on an oil rig. I can’t explain it.

>People working for greed,

commies have such a cynical outlook on the human spirit. No wonder death and suffering follow every revolution.

>> No.19421791

>>19417376
>books defending slavery? not necessarily African slave trade slavery, just slavery in general
George Fitzhugh. People actually got salty during his time because he defended white slavery was well, despite being a perfectly logical conclusion based on the justifications for black slavery.
>It was only until American Protestantism that they bend Christian theology to abolish it
That is factually incorrect. Non-black slavery was explicitly forbidden across the new world under catholic pressure, and conversely multiple christian countries and rulers had already banished or were cracking down on slavery for centuries beforehand.

>> No.19422293

>>19418872
Complete nonsense. Have you even read the Politics? Higher animals eat lower animals - higher people enslave lower people. Simple as.

>>19418361
Do you think people did not work before capitalism?

>> No.19422561

>>19417376
any meateater's stance on their meateating is basically slavery apologia.

>> No.19422722

>>19418361
>what compels people to work in a non-capitalist system?
>>19422293
>Do you think people did not work before capitalism?

It's true, capitalism has always existed. Even God created the universe because of the great profit margins.

>> No.19422878

>>19418361
you do realize capitalism has only been around for a couple hundred years right?

>> No.19423420

>>19419309
I didn't mean to imply he wasn't. Carlyle was very rarely wrong about anything.

>> No.19423506

>>19419037
i cant tell desu, i thought both of those scenarios before seeing that comment
im hoping for the former

>> No.19423729

>>19418676
this

>> No.19424147

>>19421760
>I feel like risking my life on an oil rig out of necessity
Uh hu.

Workers work because they’re programmed to believe they have to “make a living”. Capitalists orchestrate markets out of greed. Reductionism is cynical. This system is why our spirit is broken

>every revolution
Has been countered

>> No.19424154

but what is op trying to find out about slavery