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>>19235146
>bro.. bro.. *inverse* principle of sufficient reason
Do scholasticniggers really?

>>19235146
Which god

>>19235261
You cannot refute the unmoved mover so don't even try.

>>19235282
The unmoved mover is incoherent, and centuries of scholastic turbocope of greater and greater refinement and desperation is all that is needed to see that.

>>19235300
See, I told you not to try.

>>19235146
Based Spinoza (pbuh)

Ought / Is

You are the people who ruin philosophy and none of you can fuck

>>19235304
Touché.

>>19235146
Fuck that's retarded

>>19235282
>the 14.000.000.000 year old unmooved moover
>doesn't even care about modes, just fucking mooves

>God exists because as something so infinitely general, it's not possible for him not to exist

>>19235146
>Anti-God exists because it's not possible for him to not exist. Anti-God negates God so neither exist

>>19235355
You have to be 18 to post here

>>19235355
that would only be true if there were nothing instead of something

>>19235146
God exists because i can redefine the meaning of "God" to mean whatever the fuck i want ad infinitum.

>>19235373
Oh shit, I'm 38, not 18

>>19235146
God is an AI and we live in a simulation.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxYbA1pt8LA

>>19235146
>...BECAUSE HE JUST DOES OK?

>>19235441
>God is an AI
No. At best the demiurge is an AI.

>>19235343
heh

>>19235441
Opposite end of scale: people who don't know what an AI is and say dumb things like this

>>19235405
I'm 39 oops, bow to my wisdom youngster

>>19235146
>God exists because you know he exists.

>>19235146
Explain this atheist cucks

>>19235282
Space and time are a priori forms of the mind, they only exists as long as they are conceived in the intellect and not in themselves. Therefore there is no need for a begginning of space and time. The unmoved mover is but a cheap sophims. Qed

>>19235671
Whose mind, huh?

>>19235677
Each living indiviudal's mind. Reality is a shared mental construction in space and time

>>19236064
oh so you're one of THOSE guys

>>19235671
space and time are mind independent as modern physics showed a fucking century ago
kant was worng get over it
(this is not to say that thr unmoved mover is real I have no opinion on that)

>>19235282
Nothing comes from nothing. What is real is eternal. Read Plato.

>>19236144
Strange … so much science and no third person perspective

>>19236144
You're both scientifically and phylosophically illiterate if you think modern physics has anything to do with Kant's theory

>>19236080
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>19236184
dumb argumentposter

>>19236180
>reality ackshually only exists in perception
>scientists proved otherwise a century ago, Kant was wrong, get fucked
>uhhhh you KNOW Kant has nothing to do with science, right???
Christ, I hope your caretakers don’t know you’re here

>>19236834
>scientists proved otherwise
No they didn't. The entire thing was clarified by the academia on the spot. It's just philosophy tourisits like you who still believe this idiocy.

>>19235146
And what is the only thing that is not possible to not exist? Nothing. God is nothing and doesn't exist.

>>19236903
Why not say that instead of reeee about Kant? Oh yeah, it’s because you’re wrong

>>19235441
Who made the AI and who in turn made them?

>>19235269
I AM.

You see, you can derive his essence from his name. It contains the property of existence. Therefore he exists.

>>19235269
This is probably the least intelligent argument against the existence of a God.

>>19236144
>space and time are mind independent as modern physics showed a fucking century ago

Why do you believe this?

You realize Nazi Germany used Newton's physics just fine to land V2's on England right? That your whole argument has no grounding in the truth, but rather is a politically motivated belief. It is indubitable that space and time are forms of my intuition and have no existence outside of my mind.

I'm a philosopher, not a physicist. I think the physicists are mentally retarded downies that can't understand Berkeley much less Kant or even Hegel. I don't care what the math says. Godel proved that math may not be proving anything at all.

>>19235671
>>19236834
>>19236144
>>19237556
kants theory was epistemic not ontological you cretins. same thing happens everytime with hume and causality

>>19235671
>Space and time are a priori forms of the mind,
>>19236064
>Reality is a shared mental construction in space and time
Contradictory

>>19235146
God exists without needing to exist. In fact, God isn't contingent on anything for anything. Therefore he most certainly exists, by virtue of his own absolute sovereignty. Atheists completely BTFO'ed.

>>19235146
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
I refute it thus

Relitard posting goes on /his/

>>19237511
>You need to argue my nonsense on my terms
It's just making fun of believers for being shallow and unthinking morons, despite always thinking themselves clever

>>19235441
Could wreck his epic theory five seconds in by simply asking why Special Relativity doesn't just lead to pure skepticism? Why should the idea that events cannot be known to have any intrinsic order lead us to see things as eternal rather than simply destroy all knowledge we have and remove the meaning of the words "things" and "events."

I believe in God btw, and I see where he's going, but there's a much better argument here. He can't find it because he's into reddit shit like physics.

>>19235441
>Einstein is on the chart
lmaaooooo fuck off

>>19237853
yeah number one sign of a midwit is Einstein as the acme of the human mind. Not Shakespeare or Plato or Michelangelo or Napoleon....fucking Einstein

>>19237629
Hume was epistemic. But kant grounded the noumena in ontology to avoid being just another iteration of Berkeley's idealism.

>>19237651
Contradictory how

Fair enough, HOWEVER.

Spinochad always made atheists seeth and also dogmatic religious people

>>19235497
Zappa?

>>19237999
Not that anon but isnt Berkelys idealism ontological and Kant epistemological?

>>19235497

>>19235300
>scholastic turbocope

>>19235146
Test

>>19238007
Not that guy but why do you say it is shared?