/lit/ - Literature

Kant, Nietzsche, Adorno, Heidegger, Land etc pp

>french pedophile who caused amerishits to cook up CRT
>muh biopower

unironically should have been broken on the wheel medieval style and all his books burned

There really should be a distinction made between philosophers of old which loved wisdom and semantic mental masturbators which like to create imaginary systems for themselves where they are God

>>19145113

>>19145113
>t-there should be a distinction between stuff I like and stuff I don't
All the philosophers are semantic mental masturbators. Cope and dilate.

>>19145113

>>19145129
>>19145131
>>19145137
Wisdom is something which is ingrained in banal life phenomenons which lovers of old liked to analyze and put into a context, medidate on their seemingly obscurity but nontheless big impact on human life and affairs. This in turns gives a more profound understanding of life as the conclusions make an impact on our perceptions. The same old greeks or Ecclesiastes are much more fitting to the defintion of love for wisdom as specially when compared to endless thousand year old debates on sterile definitions or trying to stretch all possible limits from past thinker's strictly hypothetical imaginations, which they themselves probably would consider worthless endevours to begin with.

Nay, the renaissances was the biggest historical mistake in human history. Instead of continuing the tradition of practiced mindful meditation on life from the people they were so obsessed and eager to idealize, the renaissances men arbitrarily placed them on a pedestal akin to new gods they would worship and their written word as infallible scripture which like a priesthood who controls a religion, these mental masturbators assumed themselves in these roles, as a replacement for the God they had killed in their quest for vain power

Truly i tell you, one thing is wisdom and the other is wankery

>>19145090
>foucault
>philosopher
as a "right winger" i wish there was more people like foucault around

thanks to liberals, i can't legally fuck cunny. what a shame.

>>19145190
>Nay
stopped reading there

>>19145190
Brother are you ESL? Your post makes no fucking sense.

>>19145193
You mean as a cucktarian, degen

>>19145239
i am not a libertarian. pedophilia as a concept didn't exist until modernity.

do you think the ancients had any concept for "age of consent" lmao

>>19145090
pic related

>>19145247
dont worry anon even if there was no age of consent you'd still be a virgin

>>19145090
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>19145190
Is this meant to be satire?

>>19145255
imagine thinking i want lolis for anything other than aesthetic reasons

>>19145097
>unironically should have been broken on the wheel medieval style and all his books burned
He would've liked that, you know

>>19145090
There is only one spectrum

>>19145090
>Philosophers both sides of the rectum respect.

>>19145204
Your entire present worldview was born in 1792

>>19145093
>Adorno
>Land
No.

>>19145255
No serious right winger respects Aristotle and his inversion of the Logos.

>>19145190
Please don't stop I'm cumming

>>19145097
Why are americans like this? Truly the most despicable species.

>its the irakis fault we bombed them
>its the french philosophers fault
>its socialist countries in SA
>its this and that
>its never us
We're ecstatic witnessing your empire crumble. Americans truly have no awareness. The entire world is cheering your demise.

>>19146154
RW likes Adorno because he shits on the liberal part of the Enlightenment, hates jazz and also wrote an excellent book against astrology.

The autism spectrum?

>>19146214
>We're ecstatic witnessing your empire crumble.
You're not just talking about America are you?

>>19146448
sleep tight, gringo

>>19146214
>Europeans trying to blame Americans for what they did
A tale as old as time. Allah willing the Turks and Arabs and Africans replace you sooner rather than later. We will replace the European diaspora here in America at the same time and in this way the world will finally have peace.

>>19145090
From what I'm hearing Hegel's philosophy is something I'd really hate to read, and his influence has had terrible effects on society, but those influences have also been undeniable and doing my due diligence is something I'll probably have to get to eventually.

Also,
>Both sides of the spectrum
Isn't it time we abandon spectra in favor of nodes and edges? Or am I alone on that assumption?

G. F. W. Hegel
Carl Schmitt

right wingers have 0 respect for french philosophers especially that faggot op posted.
Anyways the answer is nietzsche

Y'all cowards hated Foucault AND Agamben. Said they were crypto-commie degenerates.
Fickle

>>19146715
>nietzsche
nietzsche is fine nietzschokiddys are a cancer

>>19146615
>some German NEET writes a bunch of schizo ramblings about "proletariat" and "bourgeoisie"
>Russia and China turn themselves into totalitarian shitholes destroying their own traditions and genociding own populace
>some French lecturer writes a bunch of schizo rambings about "episteme" and "power-knowledge"
>America and UK turn themselves into neoliberal shitholes destroying their own traditions and replacing own populace

>>19145090
There is no "both sides", fuck off.

>>19146771
>some German NEET
Marx was a journalist, labor organizer, activist, author, newspaper editor, and later a foreign correspondent to the New-York Tribune, which was arguably the most prominent newspaper in the United States at the time. Furthermore he was looking to become a researcher in Prussia however was blacklisted for being a radical. These activities are all productive, and furthermore include jobs that are characterized by formal employment and payment as well. To expand on this, before he was employed at the New-York Tribune, he worked as the editor of a newspaper in Cologne, called the Rheinische Zeitung, which was then censored by the Prussian state. Because of that, and persecution by the Prussian state, Marx went to Paris and became co-editor of the Deutsch–Französische Jahrbücher, but the project was abandoned because of political pressure by the Prussian government and the difficulties of smuggling the periodicals to Germany. He was expelled from France after pressures from Prussia, moving then to Brussels, but was accused by the government of arming Belgian citizens and was banned also from that country. After a revolution happened in 1848 in France, Marx moved back to Paris, thinking that he would be free from interference in a republican government, but Paris was subsequently taken over by reactionaries who considered him to be a political threat, so he was banned from France once more, and after all that managed to flee to London, which would be his final domicile.

Doesn't he kind of cherry pick instances from history to support his ideas?

>>19146696
>hegel
no. True rwers don't believe history is progressive

>>19146715
>posts the biggest French philosopher outside of France

>>19146726
How could someone mistake Foucault for being communist?

>>19146838
>A shitload of claims
>That many even on the /lit/erature board would hesitate to read

>>19146715
Everyone I know on both sides thinks he's a fucking retard with zero good points.

The only respectable thing about Foucault is that he had the good sense to die young

>>19146838
>man who can't stop being exiled from everywhere ACKSHUALLY was a productive member of society
He was bankrolled by his family and Engels his entire life.
>journalist, labor organizer, activist, author, newspaper editor, and later a foreign correspondent
Also known as NEET.

>>19146883
>>journalist
This is the only thing that could count as work here.

>>19146891
Unfortunately, it's even less respectable than just being a NEET.

>>19145113
i bet you havent even read aristotle kek fuck out of here back to jordan peterson youtube comment sections

>>19146878
seems like you only know filtered retards

>>19146893
>Unfortunately, it's even less respectable than just being a NEET.
Why do you thing so?
If a banker can call his work a job, so can a journalist.

Additionally, mommy would be happy and I would get some money.

>>19146906
I would bet my left nut they didn't even read him and only got their information from people who got their information from 2nd hand sources.

>>19146907
Bankers actually have to be skilled and savvy to succeed. Journalists just need to be able to write.

>>19145190
FREE

GYM

MEMBERSHIP

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>>19146924
>Bankers actually have to be skilled and savvy to succeed.
Defending le jew on 4chan??
I wasn't expecting this one.

Discipline and Punish is all about authority and exercising institutional power to restrict people's ability to rebel. Given the current situation with Covid lockdowns that Conservatives love to harp on about constantly, you would think they'd love Foucault. Then again, conservatives are retards who often can't read or write, let alone take an interest in philosophy.

>>19146947
>Then again, conservatives are retards who often can't read or write, let alone take an interest in philosophy.
trannies are retards too. don't bother

>>19145193
Even if you disagree with Foucault he asks questions that are interesting to ask
>Why do we assume prison is universal and needed when there was a time before imprisonment?

>>19146978
>>Why do we assume prison is universal and needed when there was a time before imprisonment?
What could we do besides that? Kill?

>>19145090
This legend

>>19146947
>>19146955
Here's a hint: it's easier to find similarities between them (the American left and right) than differences.

>>19147018
>Here's a hint: it's easier to find similarities between them (the American left and right) than differences.
Horseshoe theory?

>>19147027
Nope. Maybe a bit warmer though.

>>19147034
>Maybe a bit warmer though.
I don't know what you mean

>>19146838
>subsequently taken over by reactionaries who considered him to be a political threat
Do I need to remind you what happened to Russia after that dipshit's ideas were implemented? These 'reactionaries' (a buzzword that is ultimately meaningless) made the right call.

>>19147041
I suppose that's okay with me. Would you like for me to give you a lead or two?

>>19146989
Yeah. In his book he says that we used to punish the body. Hanging, beheading, quartering, torture etc. and a lot of the time it was public, too, so the people could take pity and have some sympathy for the poor devil before he passed. Now we have prisons that, instead of punishing the body, punish the soul and the punishment is kept away from society so the criminals don't even get that final scrap of pity.

>>19146154
Yes.
>>19146365
This. Plus railing against the (((culture industry))), defending myth etc.
I have said this before, but if Adorno hadn't been born Jewish I am sure he would have made a tremendous career in Nazi Germany.

And concerning Land, well there's leftwing and rightwing accelerationism, both of which refer to Land.

Spengler

>>19145090
I assume that the spectrum means from autism to schizophrenia, and yes, both sides respect Kant.

>>19147103
>>19146989
He also brings up that prison "makes sense" for a liberty oriented society (as the punishment removes liberty without discrimination by class unlike a fine might) and yet a prison does not notably succeed, and historically just operates.

>>19147101
They both get their information from the same 6 people.

>>19147066
>remind you what happened to Russia after that dipshit's ideas were implemented
Well, our literacy rate went up from 30% to 90% within two decades and 20 years later we undertook humanity's first joyride into space. Not that I'm a fan of commies, but it certainly beats living in an Orthodox sultanate full of serfs.

>>19147166
They did so to more effectively distribute propaganda since that's basically the lifeblood of communism, but I guess it is a nice little silver lining. That was also the point in history where literacy started to go mainstream for a lot of countries.
>but it certainly beats living in an Orthodox sultanate full of serfs.
Yeah, probably. Again, at that point in history that model was getting to be outdated for a lot of the world, though.

>>19147018
The real conflict is the center vs the periphery, everything else is a distortion of that.

>>19147252
I wouldn't exactly disagree, but I'd probably frame it differently myself.

>>19147166
>our literacy rate went up from 30% to 90% within two decades
Is that because all the peasants died from starvation?

>>19147008
let'ss goooo

kys no one should respect this degen faggot

>>19145093
>Adorno
No.

>kneechee
No.

>Heidegger
Fraud.

>Land
Laughingstock.

>>19145090
Plato
Aristotle

/thread

>>19146907
Unless you plan on being a legit journalist who spends their time exposing corruption and doing real journalism, please don't. There are enough opinion piece ideologue shills.

>>19145190
>>19145819
BASED

>>19145190
Correct. This is the lesson of the dialogues: think and talk amongst yourselves. Its a shame philosophy was murdered by 20th century faggots speaking in code so that no one could tell them they're wrong. They became what Socrates hated... poets.

>>19147364
thread/ closed you're a faggot

>>19147364
>/threading your own reply
Reddit moment.

young nick land will be the left wing of acceleration.
old nick land will be the right

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>>19147158
Thanks anon. I might eventually pick this up.

>>19147420
>Not serving Apollo the right away
Ngmi

>>19145090
> A free man is one who has discerned the inanity of all points of view; a liberated man is one who has drawn the consequences of such discernment.

>>19147420
>i cant understand it so its semantic masturbation
entire thread like this

I'm right-wing and I love reading Baudrillard. I don't even know why the Left likes him because everything he says undermines their narratives. I think they're just misreading him or misapplying what he says, especially if you read him beyond the popular stuff.

>>19148367
he's a non-marxist leftist.

>>19147276
Reminder that Soviet citizens had better diets than American ones.

>>19145390
Kek and true, he was basically a Cenobite.

>>19148817
Hahahaha, cool story, retard.

>>19145090
Foucault was brilliant in many ways and there is much insight to be gleaned from his books, but he was an amoral freak.
Cant deny the guy had chops though. I think he gets unfairly overly associated with modern leftist trash. Derrida had a much more legitimate influence over all of it, Foucault was just thinking out loud and people flocked to it.
That NAMBLA shit says a lot though

Fookough was a faggot pedophile psychopath with aids. Fuck him.

>>19145093
>Nietzsche
Dude is a bitch

>>19145113
There really should be a distinction between philosophers of old, whom worship wisdom and loved art, and the mental masturbators who talk endlessly yet remain sterile.
Oh wait...

Never trust a bald guy

>>19148318
imagine missing the point so badly