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What are the best books against atheism?

>> No.19120452
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19120452

the bible

>> No.19120492

>>19120360

None true, least of all this one >>19120452.

>> No.19120499

>>19120360
Biology, intelligent design is there for the eye to find it

>> No.19120519

>>19120499
atheists only need to look at the banana, how nicely it fits in the hand, it even has a disposable wrapper around it

>> No.19120524

>>19120519
Or how good a penis in a man's ass makes him feel. Why else would the prostate be there?

>> No.19120545

>>19120524
then why did god command us to cut the wrappers off out "bananas"

>> No.19120557

>>19120492
Why are you wasting your time hating something that you supposedly believe doesn't exist? Why will it matter if nothing matters?

>> No.19120633

>>19120519
>atheists only need to look at the banana, how nicely it fits in the ass, it even has a slight curve to stimlate the prostate
ftfy

>> No.19120676

https://ccel.org/ccel/addison/evidences/evidences..

>> No.19120800

>>19120360
They don't exist. The best book against Christianity is the Bible.

>> No.19120826

>>19120800
>more trite witicisms
The more atheists tale, the more obvious it is that they're mentally stuck in their teen years.

>> No.19120925

>>19120360
Guenon

>> No.19120951

Kierkegaard is the best at explaining religiosity/faith. The Sickness Unto Death, Fear and Trembling, Either/Or, Concept of Anxiety, etc. I have faith and intuitively understand what he means about the different stages of life and all the struggles faced; I react the same way as he did to certain situations. There's no need to argue against atheists, just ignore them. This is from The Sickness Unto Death: one never needs to defend what they have faith in.

>> No.19121061

>>19120557

Because it is a terrible thing to live in a world with large numbers of people who believe in a false and tyrannical god, and who are so cucked that they they go along to get along, meaning that they go along with the socialization process since it's the done thing. It's like being around niggers and having to interact with them regularly. Suppose that you are forced to share a world with niggers and don't have any other choice because there's simply so many of them. You have to negotiate a reality which involves stupid niggers. That's what it is to to share a world with the religious.

>> No.19121070

>>19120826
Better to be stuck in your teen years than as a child like Christians. It's trite but true Santa Claus is the same as God.

>> No.19121078

>>19121061
Funny, considering it was mostly atheist ANTIFA types burning buildings during the nigger riots last year. Atheism can produce nothing, it can only destroy.

>> No.19121081

>>19121070
Christians are the parents you fags are always in petulant rebellion against.

>> No.19121084

>>19121078
Bro are we living on the same planet? The fucking Taliban is gearing up for 20 year murder spree in the name of God and you're bitching about Antifa?

>> No.19121086

"The Dunciad" by Alexander Pope

>> No.19121089

>>19121084
>the leftist plays dumb and deflects
ah yes, how typical

>> No.19121091

>>19121081
And the parents are stuck in an childish stage by Christianity

>> No.19121114

>>19121081
funnily enough, christcunt posters on 4chan depict themselves as apu, an infantilised version of pepe the frog.

>> No.19121138

>>19121078

I wrote the post that you replied to and I live in the center of Minneapolis. I went through the niggerdom of the riots. Your mistake is displacing one bad category for another. The ideal world is a niggerless, jewless, godless world. That's all.

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>>19121084
>Domestic violence by ANTIFA is okay because some sandniggers did something in their hellhole country

>>19121091
>I'm SOOOO much smarter by my parents.

>>19121114
>Posting funny cartoons means you're dumb

>>19121138
Atheists are the biggest supporters of niggers and jews.

>> No.19121161

>>19121149

>Atheists are the biggest supporters of niggers and jews

Taking the group as some statistical reddit category, you may be right. But I am the exception. I am In The Truth. My hatreds are rationally directed.

>> No.19121166

>>19121149
>not supporting niggers and jews
So much for 'love thy neighbor' lol

>> No.19121169

>>19121161
>I am In The Truth
sounds like a religious argument
>>19121166
niggers aren't my neighbors

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>>19120452

>> No.19121186

>>19121169
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
>For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body-whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free-and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
>Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Racism is antithetical to christian beliefs.

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>>19120499
Pic related

>> No.19121189

>>19121186
>Jew nor Gentile
this referred to language, if you weren't retarded you would know that

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>>19120360
Not a book, but this video has one of the strongest arguments against atheism I have ever seen:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxYbA1pt8LA

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>>19121149
>Atheists are the biggest supporters of niggers and jews.
Most Christians are non-white

>> No.19121200

>>19121196
That body is a good argument but that head is a strong rebuttal.

>> No.19121206

>>19121189
Biggest cope I have ever seen so far. Let's see how you'll navigate this:
>7 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes. 18 He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. 19 And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.

>> No.19121213

>>19121206
it does you stupid cunt, translations aren't valid (muslims are right about that)

>> No.19121231

>>19121213
>translations aren't valid
So are you reading the bible in biblical hebrew, or have you been making up an imaginary version of christianity which fits into your blasphemous, heretical worldview?
>34 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.
> 34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Kiss nigger feet anytime now.

>> No.19121237

>>19121231
>God loves me by not interacting with me, therefore I won't interact with niggers.
>What is right is preserving your own people, therefore I should kill niggers
Do you have any other quotes for my superior interpretations?

>> No.19121248

>>19121237
Whatever helps you reconcile your hatred of jews with your worship of a jew on a stick.

>> No.19121254

>>19121248
It is impossible for the religious to renounce their faith and whether or not one is is genetic. If you genocide the jews and manate your paganism, I am sure that my grandkids would love your gods.

>> No.19121280

>>19121254
>genetic
*environmental

>> No.19121303

>>19121280
wrong

>> No.19121321

>>19121303
The poor are more likely to be religious than the rich. You will agree with me on this, because the alternative is suggesting that coloured people are more religious than white people, as shown >>19121198

>> No.19121333

>>19121321
whether one is poor or rich isn't by chance

>> No.19121345

>>19121333
Did I say otherwise?

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19121347

>the freethinkers
this really is the olderst trick in the book of subversion, eh? call yourself "the free thinkers", "progressives" etc in order to manufacture the idea that anyone who opposes you is not a free thinker or "anti-progress"

>> No.19121357

>>19121347
Yes, generally when someone thinks they're right, they label themselves in such a way that everyone else can't help but be wrong by default. see: christians as the "Righteous" or "God's people".

>> No.19121358

>>19121347
>how can you not agree with us, we are literally called "the good guys". if you dont agree, you are literally the bad guys and hate good

>> No.19121365

>>19121357
im not sure Id agree that that compares well considering "righteous" and "gods people" are specifically religion titles applied in a religious context to followers of the religion, whereas things like "progress"or "free thinking" are much more broad in their meaning and application

>> No.19121390

>>19121365
>righteous and god's people are not broad in meaning and application
No-one is going to be confused when you call them a heretic or just plain wrong.

>> No.19121414

Read Richard Swineburne, Eleonore Stump, Rob Koons, Joshua Rasmussen, Edward Feser, Alexander Pruss and Alvin Plantinga

>> No.19121418

>>19121414
These are all top analytic philosophers of religion.

For atheism read: Graham Oppy, Paul Draper, Mackie, JL Schellenberg

>> No.19121441

the problem is that atheists are 99% right. It's the last 1% that's troublesome--the last inch of mystery they can never conquer, leaving them mired in torment. They search for a "truth", but they can't accept the Truth, because its the shape of their pointless desire.

>> No.19121500

>>19120360
Kys schizo fg

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>>19121441
>the problem is that atheists are 99% right.
Atheism is 99% emotional appeals and 1% fashion. They never argue from reason because they can't.

>> No.19121724

>>19121198
Only because atheism is self-destructive and leads inevtiable to the decline of white populations.

>> No.19123038

>>19121149
>I'm so much smarter than any ancient polytheist or early christian who believed in a different christology

>> No.19123113

>>19121724
The Third Reich was primarily atheist and wouldn't have lead to any such decline. The problem there isn't atheism, but liberal democracy.

>> No.19123167

>>19120360
Kierkegaard probably

>> No.19123207

>>19121441
Well, yeah? It's well known that Evangelical Christianity is just atheism but with the God of the Gaps. That's the entire problem. This entire structure is created to keep people from taking up actual religions. This isn't new, this was being discussed during the fucking Great Awakening.

>> No.19123255

>>19123207
>In this vein, Richard Dawkins, an atheist, dedicates a chapter of his book The God Delusion to criticism of the God-of-the-gaps fallacy.

I didn't realize that Athiests and Evangelicals hated each other so much because they're two sides of the same coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

>> No.19124640

>>19123113
The third reich was primarily catholic and lutheren. Most atheists were and are leftists.

>> No.19124646

>>19123207
>>19123255
>God of the gaps
Fallacy wheeled out by people who have a fundamental misunderstanding of evangelical thought.

>> No.19124691

>>19121321
Because what is being corrupted is the west and its people, braindead friend? All of humanity has always been religious, there has never been a single civilization separated from religion (as it is impossible for politics and religion have always been intertwined—they are being separated now, one above the other, and thus corruption).

>>19121198
If the majority of the world is not white then it makes sense, don't you think, retard?

Holy shit why atheists are so dumb?

>> No.19124890

>>19124640
>The third reich was primarily catholic and lutheren
The top leadership was quite contemptful of christianity and christian thought, for most part. Hitler privately thought christianity was a weak, effeminate religion and even said that he would had rather that the muslims conquered everything up to the Oder during the middle ages, wiping out christianity, albeit he refrained about talking that in public for optic reasons, while Himmler constantly engaged in goofy pagan rituals, to the point that even Hitler thought it was stupid and asked him to stop.

>> No.19125079

>>19121084
literally kill yourself

>> No.19125091

>>19120524
Could you explain what exactly this is like? I have a hard time believing it's as great as people keep trying to say it is. If it is so great, are "gay" men really just addicted to having prostate orgasms?

>> No.19125700

>>19124890
The Hitler anti-Christian quotes come from the table talks, which are of questionable authenticity. Aside from a few nuts like Alfred Rosenberg, the majority of the Army and the Government was Christian and supported a Christian social policy. Far from atheist.

>> No.19125800

>>19120826
Ah yes, because when Thomas Paine was writing about the tyranny of the theistic god who claims dominion over the souls of man even past death, exemplifying the absolute worst form of totalitarian authoritarianism, he was just stuck in his teenage years. Another brilliant insight to be found on /lit/.

>> No.19125814

>>19121149
>Atheists are the biggest supporters of niggers and jews.
>Christians are the biggest bigots against niggers and jews
Kind of goes against the whole "love thy neighbor" rhetoric, doesn't it? Typical religious hypocrisy

>> No.19125890

>>19120360
The Southern Reach Trilogy

God speaks to us, its just he doesn't use words he uses zebras and water vapor.
Why would you expect language-as-usual?

>> No.19126391

>>19120360
Literally anything about Epistemology.

>> No.19126465

Literally not a single book in this thread.

>> No.19126528

>>19124890
completely and utterly unsubstantiated information

>> No.19126550

>>19121715
It's the religious who do emotional appeals, though, which form a large part of the practical content of their practice. They also change their religion to suit the available information in the given century, itself a sort of fashion.

>> No.19126554

>>19124640
Wrong in both cases. There are both left and right atheists just like how there are both left and right Christians and neither make up a significant majority when taking history as a whole.

>> No.19126574

>>19126550
>They also change their religion to suit the available information in the given century, itself a sort of fashion.
sounds like you're describing the history of science

>> No.19126587

>>19126574

Oh yeah, you really got me there, I kneel. I'll let you figure out for yourself why the comparison doesn't work.
>herp derp u can't explain why
I can, but you need the exercise. It's very simple.

>> No.19126607

>>19126587
you can't explain why

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>>19126550
>It's the religious who do emotional appeals, though
The majority or atheist arguments are either 1) someone from church was mean to me and, 2) look how mean God is in the Bible.
>>19126554
The vast majority of atheists lean left.

>> No.19126716

>>19126689
Your survey leaves out demographics, economic status, education level, and date range out of the equation, which are all significant factors when determining political affiliation.

>> No.19126919

>>19126689
>The majority or atheist arguments are either 1) someone from church was mean to me and, 2) look how mean God is in the Bible.
Just admit you've never spoken to an atheist. If you actually objectively explore the mechanism that causes people to believe, it's the same in every religion, and since religions contradict each other, that mechanism (faith) is unreliable.

>> No.19126967

>>19120452
Not mutually exclusive >: (

>> No.19126999

>>19126919
but atheists are operating on nothing but faith too?

>> No.19127067

>>19125800
No, he was just a brainlet like you.

>> No.19127072

>>19126919
>and since religions contradict each other
False.

>> No.19127091

>>19127072
Christianity: Jesus is God
Islam: Jesus is not God

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>>19126919
>Just admit you've never spoken to an atheist
I've spoken to plenty, and every time it's the same self-assurance that they believe in "logic" without demonstrating it, followed by a protracted temper tantrum decorated with anecdotal evidence.
>>19126716
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/party-affiliation/
Atheists are almost universally left-leaning.

>> No.19127645

>>19126999
I disagree. What faith?
>>19127072
In every thread on this goddamn board there are manifest examples of how retarded /lit/ is
>>19127099
'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
'Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself'
'But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you'
You'd think a religion so heavy on the whole hippy, lovey dovey stuff would be a little less hostile to foreigners, minorities and those who disagree with them, wouldn't you?

>> No.19128051

>>19127099
>Atheists are almost universally left-leaning.
Your link doesn't prove that, since it only covers 21st century participants living within democratic society and is hosted by a democratic institution (i.e,. we can safely assume that the control groups surveyed did not prominently feature neo-Nazi participants). Give me a verifiable poll not hosted by a democratic institution surveying Nazi participants in the early 20th century and then you can make this claim.

>> No.19128069

>>19120360
Every book since atheism is self-refuting

>> No.19128559

>>19120360
Not really theism explicity, but I feel like anti-spiritualists simply haven't considered their worldview enough to understand how much of human knowledge is pre-supositional or otherwise built from other presuppositions which are essentially faith based.

>> No.19128577

>>19121347
>call yourself "the free thinkers
It's true, though? If you accept dogmas you are not free thinking

>> No.19128632

>>19120360
G.K. Chesterton Orthodoxy

>> No.19128639

>>19121084
I’m not living in Afghanistan. Are you?

>> No.19128706

>>19120360
>atheists are wrong because they just are. look at how silly they are! I hate them
>no u
what riveting discourse ITT

>> No.19129762

>>19128051
Stop splitting hairs. Atheists are historically leftist. Most communists were atheists. Deal with it.

>> No.19130193

>>19120452
Too much bullshit and contradictions, especially Genesis.