/lit/ - Literature

His passion is great. The entire video is great. It's true the hosts were attempting to goad him into controversy, and of course he realized it, but for some incredible reason every time they challenged him he doubled down and scoffed at the idea of being labeled a racist or fascist. I think it became too theatrical though, he would have had more support without using those dramatic turns of phrase to describe artistry or by attempting to reconcile any of what he believed with what the hosts were countering. He was pretty rude to the other guy about his book so it is pretty natural they turned on Nabe's book as well. In all, there was not much of a point in handling the show that way. Still, it's a great spectacle and really enjoyable to watch. Thanks for showing us this

nice watch

>>19092027
/lit/ personified

>>19092027
Two minutes in, seems like a very based guy, I need to watch the whole video.

>>19092027
>But don't you think he's a nice guy?
>Hitler was nice too.
Kekd

>>19092027
I'm guessing this guy isn't translated.

>>19092027
What a purebred /lit/ autismo, I love it. Did he actually write anything worth reading, or is he most valuable as a character?

What faggots everyone else on that panel were holy fuck, somehow they accidentally invited a real human being onto their show.

>>19092491
I imagine he's at least read and relevant in literary France. All his novels have Wikipedia pages in the French Wikipedia. But I wouldn't know. Maybe some Frenchie can help us here.

Quel délice cet entrevue! Si jeune et à un contre tous il ne se laisse pas intimider par la bien-pensance de son époque. Malheureusement de tels personnages ne sont plus tolérés dans les cercles artistiques gauchisés.

>>19092027
Based beyond belief

>>19092027
I don't understand what's so scandalous and destroying in this interview. He was 100% right, the other guys were complete morons. Why would anyone destroy his career for calling out bullshit?

>>19092566
people are stupid

kek this is from a 2014 issue of his magazine

>>19092027
He's absolutely pathetic. I looked into him a while back because on paper he sounds very based. But he's a timid faggot who never, ever leaves his art gallery. Hence his terrorism apologist ways. A sorry man played by his own psychology and shortcomings.

>>19092027
He is a fervent defender of Islamism and Islamic terrorism as aesthetic and romantic movements heroically fighting back against degenerate modernity.
He famously wrote "9/11 : a light of hope" as well as a recent "open letter to a headless cunt" addressed to the beheaded French teacher Samuel Paty, basically a very long and wordy "you had it coming"
Not judging, just adding some needed information

>>19092733
>Islamic terrorism as aesthetic and romantic movements
Based. I mean, however you feel about it, 9/11 was a terrorist masterpiece. No doubt about that.

6 minutes in and he has displayed his complete detachment from social norms and needing to appeal to the herd. He has actual passion unlike the man who wants to “live” and “write” seperately.

>>19092733
I've pretty much reached this position myself, was never a religious person before but I'm increasingly convinced that the West is run by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldFOHSFTxsA

>>19092733
Yeah, I needed to know he was even more based than initially thought

>>19092733
>western conservatives attack islam because it's foreign and not european despite agreeing with lots of islamic values
>western liberals accept islam because it's foreign and not european despite disagreeing with lots of islamic values
the world is insane

>>19092777
>>19092656
This guy rules. What’s his best book?

>>19092027
King of /lit/

>>19092733

>>19092566
He named them and refused to bend the knee when they confronted him with muh antisemitism

>>19092027
What the hell is wrong with France? On one hand they have this king, on the other they have faggots like Merl*au-Ponty

You guys are way too predictable. This video is interesting but you're making it boring.

>>19092765
Exactly! The faggot who wants to 'live' is a numb druggie faggot with zero emotion, compared to M-E who's passionnated and full of energy(of life)

>>19092027
Is he a real writer?
Sounds like another stirrer of controversies who writes cheap variations of the 19th century social novel, much like Houellebecq.

>>19092733
>9/11 : a light of hope
>open letter to a headless cunt
kek I love this guy

This is such a canard. You can write thought provoking books that are good. You can write though provoking books that are great even. You don't have to be an asshole to write books that stand the test of time and aren't just schlock. The interview is presented as either being a boring hack or a complete tool when really it's the interview that's rather dull.

(Also any kid that wears a bow tie and is super into Jazz isn't exactly edgy.)

>>19092860
Make it interesting, then, Mr Funsies.

>>19092733
>"open letter to a headless cunt"
Moldbug reference?

>>19092027
Blacked porn watching jazz musician that also loves islam BUT he's FRENCH??? HOLY BASED...

>>19092900
It's unironically okay when the frogs do it.

>>19092874
Also, the only contemporary French writer I've found who looks interesting was Mathias Enard, and his book Zone. Haven't read it yet (it's 500 pages), but the format alone, and some of the pages I've read, looked good.
Does anyone here have some other recommendations? I am exclusively interested in authors who innovate instead of imitating the 19th century (which bores me to death - Houellebecq is only readable because of all the pussy). I'd rather read authors in the tradition of Beckett, Robbe-Grillet, Simon, Perec etc.

>>19092906
I like Carrèrre. Specifically The Adversary and The Kindgom, not so much his "autofiction".

Just saw he has some soft porn pics with his gf, including his soft dick and her ass.

>>19092880
1985

>>19092921
confirmed chad

>>19092909
I own one of his books, actually, but haven't read it yet.

>>19092927
https://coupdetrafalgar.blog/2019/08/05/pornabe-meilleure-jeunesse/

>En immortalisant le cul – le sien, celui de sa « meuf » Alexandra, et celui qu’ils partagent – et en le publiant, Nabe se livre tout entier, comme on devrait toujours s’y attendre. Cent-cinquante photos et selfies, sans esthétisme ni mise en scène, le tout sur papier bible, ou presque – ou mieux! La qualité du tirage (120 euros le numéro), c’est ce qu’on voudrait pour une version illustrée de l’œuvre de Sade… ou pour l’Évangile ! Le grand format magazine, le graphisme impeccable, la couverture, la quatrième : tout claque visuellement, un peu comme une bifle !

I might actually read him now, the mere fact that he did this shows he's not a conventional shitty 'author' looking for the International Man Booker or whatever.
Good. Pasolini, Ginsberg, Whitman, Shaw, and others also posed nude.

>>19092928
Which one?

>>19092566
>Why would anyone destroy his career for calling out bullshit?
You know why.

>>19092566
I think some of the other guys are Jewish editors.

>>19092980
D'autres vies que la mienne.

>>19092741
Too bad it wasnt muslims who did it.

Saying all the things he said in the middle of the 1980s in France was pretty ballsy.
Yet today, nobody would give a fuck about this. In the 80s, he was one of the few who had those kind of balls. Today, there are literally thousands of video uploaders who say the same thing. They even have their own platform: bitchute. Before it was censored.

I can admire his willingness to be controversial but it seems to me that he's being controversial just for the sake of being known as controversial and contrarian rather than any concrete reason.

>>19093400
To be fair, he is 26 years old. Cioran was still saying things which were as edgy if not moreso up to the age of thirty.

>>19092027
What a fucking edgy moron. His shitty little panphlet about how Samuel Paty (the decapitated teacher) got what he deserved is disgusting.

>>19093280
Of course he would get thrashed today should he compare Blacks to apes, what are you on about?
This aired on national tv, not on a niche internet outlet.

>>19093407
I meant his work in general, not the video. Like obviously people want the abominations of modernity to go away but simping for another braindead ideology just because they are fighting each other currently is just as retarded as not doing anything against modernity. That's what these people miss, the happy merchant has no problem selling you both the poison and the antidote, the only thing that matters is that you don't leave his ideological sandbox. So long as you don't, he can't lose.

>>19093407
Cioran wrote Saints and Tears at 26. That was an extremely edgy book for Romania.

>>19093440
Fair enough.

>>19093472
True. I think he was still simping for the Iron Guard on the radio until the age of thirty also, something which is often overlooked when it is claimed that Cioran abandoned fascism in his mid-twenties. I tend to appreciate people like this who strike out and invite people to hate them, there is something refreshing about it.

>>19093507
Don't know why Cioran simped for fascists when he was utterly bitter about such things in his first book.

>negrophilia

lol good interview. I'm guessing this guy will never get translated just like Rabetet.

Interesting what he said about literature and why not write a movie script'. I read some beautiful passages by Annie Dillard earlier about the same thing.

Also, Modiano...anyone here read him? I tried to read Paris Nocturnes earlier, incidentally, and could not make it past the first few pages. His writing seemed so flat and without music, dull. Of course I read in translation so ... but nonetheless.

>>19092906
I like Jean-Phillipe Toussaint a lot. I've read two of his books and both were very different tonally. I don't think he's particularly innovative, he has his quirks, but he is a very good writer with good style and at times great humour.

>>19093424
Who gives a fuck about TV?
Maybe the problem of trads, is that they still cling to this.

>>19093423
Yes. Hating the mainstream, and being a negative mirror of the mainstream, doesn't make one interesting.
The truth is outside the politico-mediatic field.

His youtube channel is pure cringe, i read few books of him, he write very well.

>>19092027
He seems to be passionate and able to try and get at the very human core of experience, trying to get beyond contextual points of politics to try and get at a deeper spirit in a writing. Never read, so wont say anything about his personhood, but he does seem to be thinking in a good direction if nothing else.

The Buffons he is talking too seem less like writers and more like daily show hosts that focus on platitudes more then a vision though. Loosing it and not being able to get beyond a fact that someone could both enjoy Black art and a fascist work. Instead of trying to understand this seemingly novel idea, like a good artist might, they giggle. But tbf, Hes so energetic, that it did seem like it wouldnt end in anything but elevation.

>>19093732
If you held publicly any opinion close to this you would be banned from ever attending mainstream media again, your (((employer))) would fire you for fear of a boycott, normies would stop speaking to you and you will be blacklisted from anything slightly mainstream forever.

>>19092027
Très basé, even if he didn't get cancelled in the 90s, he would've must assuredly been in the 20s

>>19093862
>He was shortlisted for the 2010 Prix Renaudot for his novel L'Homme qui arrêta d'écrire, which became the first self-published book to be shortlisted for a major literary prize in France.

Ten years ago but still, recent enough.

>Although no oil painting, Houellebecq is Dorian Gray to Nabe's picture – the acceptable face of controversy. Or at least this is Nabe's spin on events. In the early 90s, both men lived at the same address (103 Rue de la Convention in the 15th arrondissement) facing each other, like bookends, across a cobbled courtyard. Both belong to the same generation, come from similar lower middle-class backgrounds, had domineering Corsican mothers they rebelled against and established their reputations by courting controversy. Nabe was the senior partner in this relationship, up until the success of Atomised in 1998.

>I'll never give up living for writing
The other guy is pretty based too.

>>19093977
He was a retard. Writing can be a part of living.

>>19093814
>you would be banned from ever attending mainstream media again
Don't give a fuck.
>your (((employer))) would fire you for fear of a boycott
His loss. If you are not at ease somewhere, leave.
>normies would stop speaking to you
Normies don't blacklist me, i blacklist them.
> you will be blacklisted from anything slightly mainstream forever.
Thank god.

>>19092505
My French (and relatively well-read) flatmate has never heard of him.

>>19093987
He (Marc-Edouard) said he does nothing besides read and write.

He was beautiful. That alone is validating

>>19092027
https://wikinabia.com/Accueil
He has his own wiki (in french)

>>19094062
>bin laden
lmao what a tryhard

By the way, the Wikipedia of this says he got punched in the face by some anti fascist guy after the cameras were rolling.

>>19094091
t. yank

>>19092027
Pretentiousness in human form.

>>19094008
This is very funny, but also very naïve.

>>19093407
Cioran never stopped being edgy

>>19093423
He did get what he deserved. He advocated for living together with a culture that has no qualms with raping your children or completely taking over and removing your own culture. The west is weak. I don’t like it, but it’s a fact

>>19094327
... are you ok anon?

>>19094327
Wait until you learn that whole outrage was based on a 13 year old girls lie and the teacher didn't actually do anything wrong.

>>19094327
so you think the west is weak so you want it to be dominated by a religion from the east. words of a traitorous coward who has given up

>>19092027
>"I'll nail you like butterflies on the board"
I'm starting to get scared that I might act mildly like this guy, lit/.
What should I do?

>>19094580
be antisemitic in public

>>19092906
>perec
Hack. Muh linguistic constraints

>americans worshipping Nabe
Kek. If only you guys knew what he wrote about you guys in his books.

This right here is where he is wrong.

>>19094607
Do share.

>>19094611
No, that's where he's right. Literature is not your fucking blog.

>>19094607
>everyone online is American
kek absolute state of faggots

>>19092027
>"I don't hate niggers because they invented jazz"
This guy is just too based to be true.

>>19094611
Expand on that anon

>>19094623
It literally is.

>>19094644
No.

>>19092027
"All literature is right-wing. All poetry is fundamentally fascist."
So many based quotes. I have a new idol. lel

>>19092027
His passion is great but he never replicated it in his writings
I find him to be a massive dissapointment

>>19094640
I wrote 55 pages of fucking nonsense while I was insomniac. If I had kept and edited it it would have made a very nice little memoir. I touched upon some very nice points. Very poignant, very imaginative. Every person has a perspective, no matter how trite. And practicing writing perfects writing. Besides, the best way to reach the diamonds in the shafts of one's mind is to write down every little thought.

This guy is a bloody genius, but not enough to see that everyone at that gathering wants to dogpile him. He's playing the objective, constructing thoughts and ideas that they can't even approach while they attack his character and look around the room to see if they still belong to the in-group. Rabid Jackals.

I disagree with him, that writing is living. Living is the source of all writing.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XM6SksSlVw

>>19094733
>I disagree with him, that writing is living.
Writing is a part of living is what he says. Are you not alive when you're writing?

Heh another thread for my "Les Deux Etedards" shill campaign
Youre doing great op, keep it up

>>19094419
No I wish for better. But I recognize weakness. I am “pro-west” but demand a stronger people. If you’re going to be a modern bugman, then it is inevitable that a stronger culture that actually believes in a god will come to smite you.

>>19092027
>Somebody punch him
They get violent pretty fast if it's for a "noble cause", right?

>>19094750
I've heard it's a great novel. Haven't found it in physical format yet but would love to read it.

>>19094733
If it's aesthetically relevant then it's not just your bare thoughts on the page.

>>19092491
The left in France actually admits that he's "unfortunately a good writer"

Can anyone here actually talk about the content of his books? What makes him worth reading other than some edgy interview?

It should surprise no one that the life of the writer--such as it is--is colorless to the point of sensory deprivation. Many writers do little else but sit in small rooms recalling the real world. This explains why so many books describe the author's childhood. A writer's childhood may well have been the occasion of his only firsthand experience.”

“There is no shortage of good days. It is good lives that are hard to come by. A life of good days lived in the senses is not enough. The life of sensation is the life of greed; it requires more and more. The life of the spirit requires less and less; time is ample and its passage sweet. Who would call a day spent reading a good day? But a life spent reading -- that is a good life.”

"Novels written with film contracts in mind have a faint, but unmistakable, and ruinous, odor. I cannot name what, in the text, alerts the reader to suspect the writer of mixed motives; I can't specify which sentences, in several books, have caused me to read on with increasing dismay and finally close the books because I smelled a rat."

"The people who read are the people who like literature, after all, whatever that may be. They like, or require, what books alone have. If they want to see films that evening, they will find films. If they do not like to read, they will not. People who read are not too lazy to flip on the television; they prefer books. I cannot imagine a sorrier pursuit than struggling for years to write a book that attempts to appeal to people do not read in the first place."

― Annie Dillard, The Writing Life

>>19094750
>In 1942 Rebatet published a lengthy pamphlet entitled Les Décombres ("The Ruins"), in which he traced the forces he believed to have led France to its fall. He firmly accused Third Republic politicians and its military leadership, as well as French Jews - who he claimed were the prime cause of France's political and military woes. Les Décombres is the clearest expression of Rebatet's fascism, as well as his most virulently antisemitic work. The same year, he began writing Les Deux étendards ("The Two Standards"), his first novel.
The duality of man.

>>19092027
People with that physique who hold these opinions are usually faggots who are only contrarian because it's the only way they get attention. In that respect they are no different from women, they only care about the attention. If the types of people he actually supports were in power, he would be the first to go

>>19094840
>if you do not suck liberal/leftist cock like there's no tomorrow, you're a contrarian
absolute state of the world

>>19094747
"This is not a pipe" is all I mean to say.

>>19094835
>It should surprise no one that the life of the writer--such as it is--is colorless to the point of sensory deprivation. Many writers do little else but sit in small rooms recalling the real world. This explains why so many books describe the author's childhood. A writer's childhood may well have been the occasion of his only firsthand experience.
Based. Writers who haven't done any living should have their writers license revoked. Hemingway didn't start writing seriously til his mid-30s. Motherfucker was in three wars including WW1 & 2 and went all over the world doing manly shit.

>>19094595
>Muh linguistic constraints
I'm sorry but this is the basis of all great poetry. Not to mention restraint breeds art and excerises genius—art of this type is reserved for the vutuosi. Cope.

>>19094840
Ever hear of Joseph Goebbels?

>>19094851
Im not saying he's wrong. But a guy built like Alex Jones with those opinions and a guy built like a pencil necked faggot with those opinions are coming from very different places. One is strong and wants the strong to dominate because it is what he views as natural, the other wants the strong to dominate because he isn't fitting in with the other pencil necked faggots. Like the nerd doing the jocks homework who renounces other nerds. He thinks he's cool because he shares the same opinions as the jock, but the jock just looks at him as a nerd

>>19094949
damn that was some deep ass high school philosophy

>>19094919
lol she is not discounting that kind of life. She is simply going back and forth over arguments about the literary life. You can see the other quote right underneath that from the same section of the book where she calls a life spent reading a good life. She simply acknowledges that it is a little mad.

The writer who spends his life reading and never leaving his house is in a much better position to create art than the writer who 'lived' his whole life and barely ever read. Of course, this is not necessarily black and white, there is a sliding scale, of sorts.

>>19094949
I think you're projecting and using 1980s American high-school drama tier stereotypes, bro. The jock lol

>>19094681
I think that quote would give Adorno a stroke. In fact, I think that guy's love of jazz would have made Adorno seethe.

>>19094954
>>19094965

That was the simplest analogy that came to mind, but you get my point. People like the writer OP is talking about, tend to believe what they believe out of resentment, not from genuine belief. Their whole belief system of strong good, weak bad, literally refutes their existence. They are fueled by self hatred above all else

>>19094733
>while they attack his character and look around the room to see if they still belong to the in-group.
kek I've noticed that too. The Jewish fella was constantly looking at the audience for approval.

>>19095040
And Alex Jones, an obese, bald, lunatic cunt, doesn't do it out of resentment? You could make the same argument.

>>19092027
This is something he should be celebrated for, not put to shame. He publicly showed integrity toward his craft while confronted by people who could set or destroy his career.
Also, in comparison to a lot of French tv debates, this is incredibly tame. He just didn't want to bend over and concede "sure, he's a nice guy" because being nice has nothing to do with writing good books, and it was obviously a false concession. Even
> "Writing is everything to me. This tv event is nice, but it is a draft, I can't wait to go back home and write about you. Tonight, I will assassinate each and everyone of you, and tomorrow, you will all be eternal to me"
actually has a nice ring to it. I don't mind meeting someone averse to me if he ends up turning me into an immortal afterwards.

>>19094949
>He thinks he's cool because he shares the same opinions as the jock, but the jock just looks at him as a nerd
> Jocks believe that literature has a very specific definition and are completely obsessed by it.

>>19095040
>They are fueled by self hatred above all else
He literally admits that hatred is what drives him and what he artificially invoke as a state of mind before writing.
His "writing worldview" is completely fucked, but it makes for good passion. However what he denounces (and what the other author supports him over), being that too many books are just scenarios, that is 100% accurate.

>>19094062
>When u know anons reading habits from what names are purple instead of blue

>>19095040
>Their whole belief system of strong good, weak bad, literally refutes their existence
wouldnt that just reedify a belief as not one of simple personal gain, but actual belief in that idea?

>>19092027
I want to desperately shove this faggot nerd into a locker.

>>19095280
t. seething leftist

>>19094607
>>americans worshipping Nabe
>Kek. If only you guys knew what he wrote about you guys in his books.
So he fucked the anglo too?
What a legend.

>>19095297
I'm more radical than that puny faggot, so no.

>>19094980
Another one bites the dust.

>>19095040
>>19094949
I admit that at the beginning I cringed a bit because Nabe reminded too much of myself some time ago. But his passion is genuine. His misanthropy as he himself says in that interview reveals a desire for genuine communion with people. You NEED to be a contrarian, you NEED to be a fascist (and isn't the aestheticization of politics, of every aspect of life a contrarian position against the modern world?) in order to either repel or attract people, to plunge them even more into their own little worlds or wake them up.
I don't know but I get the feeling, perhaps in common with him, that a more profound consciousness of life, of struggle, of beauty, lacks progressively more in society, in people.

>Shortly after the terrorist attacks in the United States on 11 September 2001, Nabe reacted to the event by writing an essay entitled Une lueur d'espoir ('A Glimmer of Hope'), in which he commented on the media coverage of the event and asserted that Osama bin Laden was acting in self-defence against the USA. Nabe's interest in the conflicts in the Middle-East led him to travel to Iraq prior to its American invasion in 2003. The trip served as material for the novel Printemps de Feu.

>>19094919
>Hemingway didn't start writing seriously til his mid-30s.
What does it really mean?

>>19094008
18 year old detected

It is pretty disappointing that his life and work after this only confirms he is a contrarian edgelord when the possibility he was being sincere is visible in the interview. He's just another shitty intellectual who is detached enough from the real world to rejoice when a teacher gets beheaded and then blame it on her, an insufferable human. This is why the other author in the show is correct, it's about both writing and living, not just writing. It's because he only writes that Nabe has such retarded views on politics, is so detached from humanity. He's just another one of those boring ivy tower fags, except with a dash of racism and antisemitism.

>>19095537
Writing is also living.

>>19095537
>He's just another one of those boring
He is a lot of things, but thats not one of them. I agree some things are gauche, but he does have vision.

Just because he does it in a contrarian way is by the by and mildly annoying.

>>19092733
Isn't this literally why Pound supported the Nazis?

>>19095559
A person who lives to disagree with the status quo is not interesting. Years of 4chan have taught me this if nothing else

>>19094764
Its relatively easy to find in french in any online seller
As to an English version a few anons are translating it but I don't know how far along they are

Poseur

>>19095189
>Sade
>Lawrence
>Rimbaud
Lmao, anon’s a wimp

>>19095604
Then is a person who lives to agree with one does?

Not that i disagree mind you, but that doesn't mean someone with a basic bitch thesis or antithesis in general might not have an interesting take on things in particulars. If you have been here so long, I must imagine you have seen and enjoyed a few of those, or you wouldnt still be here.

im shaking rn

>>19092733
Did he have anything to say about wignat-associated violence like Christchuch?

>>19095655
>that doesn't mean someone with a basic bitch thesis or antithesis in general might not have an interesting take on things in particulars
It generally does. But more to the point it's not about what he believes in necessarily so much as how he presents himself believing in him that tells us he's a phony. Do you think the guy writing "Open Letter to a Headless Cunt" really has anything to say? No, of course not. If he had anything to actually say, he would not present himself in a manner that encourages everyone to write him off instantly. A person who actually believes in his controversial stances like Houellebecq addresses them with care because he wants people to hear them. A person who uses his controversial stances to prop up his ego acts like Nabe. It is even present in the 1985 interview. There is no honest point he is trying to express, it's about presenting himself. That's why no one ITT is even discussing what points he made, but rather him as a person, because he never fully tried to say anything. It was all a show. So if you want to know why I disregard him and his opinions, there you go.

great vid. i feel like he tries to hard to be smarter than everyone though...he just might be but still

is there an edgelord/misanthrope chart with guys like him?

CAN ANYONE HERE TELL ME ABOUT HIS ACTUAL FUCKING BOOKS?

>>19093400
t. braindead american

>>19095839
Yeah sure anon, here you go.

>>19095797
Don't project your masks, affectations, and dishonest insincerity onto him.

>>19095839
That would require the people here to read more than subtitles on a Youtube video.
But uh hey, isn't this guy totally BASED?? He's so politically incorrect - so based and literary!

>>19095797
if not, I hope someone more /lit/ than me makes one

>>19095903
I bet nobody here knows french anyway

>>19095764
>if you write with too much honesty it will alienate the simpleminded canaille, therefore you are insincere
Small-minded small-souled canaille. Why should life be shrunk down to your small horizons?

>>19095764
well, thank you for telling me so.

I can see that angle. Though in this angle specifically, he doesnt seem contrarian per se, but more to your answer here "about presenting himself" this idea of hatred as passion I still find interesting, and I can see the relationship there, or the apreciation of the sensation of a piece despite disagreeing with it. Though he was definitly being provacative in it.

>>19095910
>>19095797
>is there an edgelord/misanthrope chart with guys like him?
Right, let's begin:
Houellebecq, Lovecraft, Ligotti, Poe, De Sade. Who more?

>>19095993
Cioran

>>19095940
It's not that he's being too honest. It's that he's either a moron or an attention whore with nothing to say.

>>19096018
>nothing to say
He's literally there because he wrote a book of essays. Thats not having "nothing to say"

>>19096028
I was referring to his other writings. The man himself is known as "the most censored author in France". There is nothing wrong with going against the grain intrinsically, but everything I've seen from this guy indicates he is not much more than a person who enjoys the spotlight. It is pointless to keep speculating about a guy I (and probably you) haven't read, but all I see here is narcissism obscured with a thin vail.

>>19096055
What spotlight? He's not like Houellebecq who gets lots of articles written about him when he says something naughty. This guy is marginal.

>>19095993
>>19095999
Baudellaire, Schope, Uncle Teddy.

>>19096069
The fact he is unsuccessful doesn't change the intent. What other motive does one have to praise Islamic terrorism immediately after it occurs, openly spitting on its victims? If it were only 9/11, I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but to see he's repeated this trick and put it on someone who is virtually guiltless tells us what sort of thing this is. Perhaps he really does have a point he is trying to express, but I feel that the odds of this are increasingly low. If someone has found anything of worth in his writings though, I would like to know.

>>19095993
Lautréamon

>>19096119
Why can't some people just like Islamic terrorism on the basis of aesthetics?

>>19096119
The fact that he's consistent means it's part of his worldview and doesn't just do it for emporary controversy. He did it two decades ago and also recently.

what about that ww2 era writer he shills to the outrage of the other fags... Rebatet? Is he good?

>>19096188
Yes.

>>19092027
"With LICRA as soon as you say 'Jew', you're under a terrible yoke"
And from his Wikipedia page
>After the show, anti-racist campaigner Georges-Marc Benamou burst in the studio and assaulted Nabe, punching him in the face.[1][16] The LICRA sued Nabe for defamation and incitement to ethnic or racial hatred, but the charges were dropped in 1989.[17]

>>19096308
They hate most those who speak the truth.

for writers, here the process of his last book "les porcs"
thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06C2BCOX-k

being an 'intellectual" is the best tricks to fuck young qt women
imagine the sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gxbUOy0Piw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOKDIvSJhLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc4SFjJs_cM

>>19095993
Bataille, Marechera

>>19092566
It's rather that you can't have a career without playing their game and saying what you're supposed to say.

>>19094008
>>19093814
>>19093732
>>19093424
>>19093280
Not at all. 70-80s were by far the loosest time. Literally everything today reads like a braindead propaganda pamphlet or script. They had actual conversations on mainstream TV back then.

>>19092566
i'm not sure if op isn't just making up this "destroyed" career of his considering he has since published literally dozens of novels with multiple publishers. i'd love ot have a "destroyed" career like that

Here is a text he wrote about Palestine/Israel. Seems like one of his readers translated it and posted it on Twitter.

He sounds like he wants to imitate celine, but nearly all french people are like this, why?

>>19096804
He doesn't write like Celine in this text, nor in his books. He admires Celine (the greatest) but he has a lot of other influences.

Also there's been an article in a US paper about him recently

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/marc-edouard-nabe-the-anti-houellebecq

>>19096758
Perhaps but there are slightly more red pilled people today than in the 70-80s.

>>19094607
Pretty sure it won't be different than any of the reactionary philosophy authors this board likes.

Also we watched the video and we know he doesn't like Reagan and says as an insult that father LePen is a reaganite.

>>19094919
You don't need to have lived, you need to have been around living.

>>19096771
Neat and based, although not exactly unique, that's like everybodys and their moms go-to Israel-Palestine metaphor
https://youtu.be/Ka9-tT8UPwk

>>19096669
>being an 'intellectual" is the best tricks to fuck young qt women
yeah it's like pretending you have some kind of unique authority or social pull, with grandiose image to sell it, and somehow it fucking works. women need better vetting.

>>19092733
>open letter to a headless cunt
please be real

>>19096308
Wtf, it’s true

>>19096771
Say what you want but the guy is a good satyrist.

>disgusting rock music
>loves jazz
-_- ...
i can understand saying that in the context of the 1968 revolution. rock music was disgusting then. by the 80s, when he was speaking, rock music was good. jazz was arguably not disgusting before the war but afterwards it definitely was. and completely sterile by the 1980s.

>>19094125
>some (((anti fascist guy)))

>>19097191
>by the 80s, when he was speaking, rock music was good.
Anon... I

>>19097206
we're talking about alternative rock, anon. maybe you've never heard of it...

>>19097220
>we're talking about alternative rock, anon. maybe you've never heard of it...
Anon, how many instruments do you play?

Also, this was the mainstream landscape in those times. This is what you would probably see, most of the time, on the TV shows and hear on the streetcorners NOT your fucking My Bloody Valentine or whatever.
Can't you see why he was mad?

>>19093585
>Modiano
Try Villa Triste.

>>19097245
>Anon, how many instruments do you play?
I'm not interested in your dick measuring contest.
>Can't you see why he was mad?
Yes, I can. He calls himself a "negrophile." Should have something to do with it. As for the mainstream, I don't see your point. Alternative or underground rock music was very high quality and certainly better than the jazz of that decade. If he or anyone else was unaware of it and only conscious of hair bands then that's really their problem but the fact remains that the 1980s is one of the best decades for rock music.

>>19097264
maybe he was talking about french rock music

French here, I thought you knew him. Here, everyone recognises that he is one of the last real writers, and that he has a real style and a real pen, even the critics who don't like him. But of course because of his speech he is not invited anywhere.

In fact I think his real talent is the only reason he's not in jail yet lol.

His website: https://www.nabesnews.com/

What a faggoty popinjay

great thread

>>19097264
>I'm not interested in your dick measuring contest.
Agree, that's not my point. But I really hate (and mostly) I don't trust critics that don't play anything AT ALL even on a beginner level. How can they keep the facade of a knowledgeable judgement?
So I'll ask again, how many instruments do you play?

>As for the mainstream, I don't see your point.
The mainstream matters because is the music you hear in most social gatherings. It's a part of the zeitgeist of a generation, like it or not. And mainly, bad music unlike bad literature will be pushed down your earlobes and there's not too much you can do about it, often. You see, nobody will force you to read Twilight no matter how much they like it, but with music it HAPPENS just all the time.

>Alternative or underground rock music was very high quality and certainly better than the jazz of that decade.
Have you seen his list of influences?
The guy was, as most rockfans these days, majorly listening to things from decades before his time. As jazz was for him, rock nowadays moves in the direction of becoming as the years go by more and more a niche thing. A rust relic mostly cherished by a few aficionados.
This per se should be a reason to see the guy with a litle bit more of sympathy (regarding this specifical issue at least) as rock fades and gives place to hip-hop in the collective conscience right now.
You're in a position similar to him, as far as the musical genres go, can't you see?

>>19093003
QUI

>>19094008
You seem to think you can live outside society, this is wrong 99% of cases. Besides it seems pretty retarded to wear your second rate citizenship as a badge of honor

>>19094611
No this is where he goes from being an edgy guy who spoke big to making an actual subversive point. It's the best line in the video.

>Oh, I'm antisemitic? I'll have you know my lawyer is a Jew
Jeez Louise

>>19092027
Alain Soral says he is shit I think, so I'm not interested thanks anyway.

>>19097612
Who?

>>19097664
A weirdo meathead islamophile

>>19092027
>intelligent men talking to the point without the need to constantly hedge what they say or worry about outrage
>no idiotic women or minorities talking over them
God I want to go back so bad

>>19097842
>jews
>not a minority
??

>>19092355
fuck you milquetoast
you dont know what passion is, you just throw the word around while still hiding behind whats acceptable

>>19097842
except the guy got punched backstage and sued by LICRA entity afterwards

>>19097897
Let's say he's pretending to be passionate then.

>Loving Celine and Modiano is incompatible
He’s shitting on YA and upholding Celine before it was cool

>>19097910

>>19095993
Ligotti is a complete fraud with no real internal life. He just apes other authors and it's so surface level.

>>19098025
>no real internal life. He just apes
so a human then

>>19098034
no, an NPC.

>>19098048
>He just apes
>no, an NPC.

>>19098066
Yes.

>>19098079
>NPC
>NPC
>NPC

>He just apes

>>19094062
>Simenon but no Simon

Does he write airport novels?

>>19092027

Lawl. What a fag. "I'm going to write about you in my journal!". Oh no. Please. Don't do that.

>>19094062
>John Cowper Powys

>>19098135
Nigger.

>>19095569
Pound called out the Nazis for the uncultured barbarians (Tartars) they were, and supported Mussolini due to reasons related to the social credit economic theory which he supported as a way of preventing the big banks from starting another war.

Sorry Houellebecq, he's crowned a cute French girl as his protege:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOKDIvSJhLQ

>>19098211
She seems unaware of her own beauty. That's attractive.

>so anon what motivated you to learn French?

>>19092027
He makes a good point that being an artist/writer and a commie means you're given a free pass, despite the many commie atrocities in the 20th century, but if you're a fascist artist/writer suddenly you're the vilest shit ever and guilty by proxy or some nonsense. Double standards.

>>19096308
> Georges-Marc Benamou
> Algerian Jew
What a disgusting mix. By God we should never have left.

>>19092027
Thank you so much for this video anon. I have often wondered why I cannot get along with people and wanted to watch myself from a distance.
Turns out this guy is just like me and most of the rest of lit, skinny faggoty good for nothing contrarian non conformist soi boy with somewhat high IQ and mix of inferiority and superiority complexes. The quintessential sugma male. I know I know muh projection. But just have sex.
Live and let live. There is no need to be edgy. We are in this together. Acting like this just makes you pathetic.
This is a wake up call for me.

What's his early life background? Is he some upper-class frenchie?

>>19098495
I suggest you look up Nabe's YouTube channel where people visit his art gallery, I'm sure you'll find that in the wya he lives and behaves, he has nothing in common with you cuck.

Also, as readers of his books know, he's banged loads of really hot women.

>>19098521
This is his father (not joking).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tVFvJcyhzg

>>19094327
>>19095764
>>19092733
>He famously wrote "9/11 : a light of hope" as well as a recent "open letter to a headless cunt" addressed to the beheaded French teacher Samuel Paty
Can read it via Google translate here
https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&nui=1&elem=1&u=https://www.nabesnews.com/lettre-ouverte-a-une-tete-de-con

>>19098522
You have no idea how I live as well.

>>19096771
All that bluster and he writes this trash.

>>19092733
the open letter is well written, but at the end of the day his thoughts are very basic: islamists are retaliating; we're the real terrorists! not that a disagree, but it's very basic stuff written in the edgiest way possible.

>>19098547
I do, you described yourself as a "skinny faggoty good for nothing contrarian non conformist soi boy with somewhat high IQ and mix of inferiority and superiority complexes"

>>19098577
For the record, this is written like a simple parable on purpose. It doesn't reflect his usual writing style.

>>19098147
More info?

>>19097191
Jazz was always shit. Rock was based for a few years around 68.

>>19098522
>Also, as readers of his books know, he's banged loads of really hot women.
How do French men achieve this? Are they just natural seducers?

>>19096824
>Nabe’s explanation for Houellebecq’s stunning success, and his own relative obscurity, is instructive. At the close of the 20th century, he argues, readers were ready for an incorrigible bad boy to skewer the stale political and ethical nostrums of France’s post-1960s intellectual culture, with its emphasis on sexual liberation, the abolition of authority, and cosmopolitanism. The only catch was that this skewering would have to leave everything about French society just as it was before. Nabe, in his own telling, spoke to this audience about exactly the wrong topics: “jazz (very bad), style (oof), art (forget it) ... Jews (no!), Jesus (it's over!).” He says he should have followed Houellebecq’s approach: “tendentious novel + flat prose + self-declared atheism.”

Sounds like a faggot.

>>19098211
All this mean is that he's fucking her

>>19098522
>some blowhard fag says he fucked lots of women
>take his word
Lit is dumb as shit.

>>19098211
what's their secret? how do the frogs do it?

>>19098662
You want proof? Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdo5_Lzy7oQ&t=1s

>>19098662
I mean it's pretty possible considering that Sartre had a good looking wife and fuck loads of young cunts. That's how the French arsty scene works.

Fuck off n*be, you pseud.

>>19098662
You want more proof?

https://wikinabia.com/images/thumb/0/03/Soral_Nabe.png/600px-Soral_Nabe.png

>>19098530
>Google translate
Omg... Use deepl you retard

>>19098688

>>19098685
>>19098695
>>19098735
>he's an actual chad
based

>>19098735

>>19097612
>alain soral

2010 is over

>insufferable little faggot LARPs about how his diary is more real than life

About as /lit/ as it gets, except his diary actually exists.

>>19098584
Yeah I described him, most of lit, and myself like that. That fact he fucks women doesn’t invalidate that, nor does the fact that you don’t know how I live.
You belong to second category of litizens. Namely the low IQ retards with difficulty in comprehension.

>>19098743
Chad

>>19098753
Lol enjoy your life loser. Just don't think it's like Nabe's

>>19098662
in paris and france in generals, girls who are from wealthy bourgeois family love intellectual guys, writers, photographs etc as long as you can impress her with your intellect and words, you will have women( look at zizek), dont even need to look like a chad, in fact the shitter, dirtier you look, the better.

>>19098681
Hes handsome, very intelligent, an "artist" and confident. What more do you need to get women to sleep with you? You overestimate them.

Looks like grifting, reads like grifting.

>>19098770
Thanks anon I’ll try to. You enjoy yours too. You’ll probably enjoy it more since you are a retard though cos nowhere I wrote my life is similar to his.

>>19092027
Why do people get so mad at things that are obvious? For example, when he says that thanks to slavery we have jazz, that's completely true and there is no way that can be discussed, how can you get upset about self-evident facts? God, people are ridiculous.............

>>19098936
I am not sure if you know what self-evident means.

>>19098784
>as long as you can impress her with your intellect and words, you will have women( look at zizek), dont even need to look like a chad, in fact the shitter, dirtier you look, the better.
i'm a pretentious slav with bad hygiene and this is my current plan for life. if pic related isn't me in five years then i'm offing myself

>>19099041
Seems like a good plan for getting laid, not experiencing the simple pleasures of marital bliss.

>>19099041
here's a famous french journalist, he literally look like mr burnes from the simpsons and look the women he bang

>>19098743
Was there every any doubt? The dude's basically just nu-Celine.

>>19099293
All women are disgusting subhuman freaks.

>>19099293
THICC

>>19094640
its my book and i write what i want

>>19099773
Cool, yet not literature :D

>>19098688
>Sartre had a good looking wife and fuck loads of young cunts
To be fair that was just loads of rape, feel like that doesn't count

>>19092027
"Writing is killing" is a juvenile aphorism for someone who can't articulate the real importance of culture. Predictable that /lit/ falls for such a pseud take.

>>19099927
Predictable that an autist takes everything at face value.

>>19099927
Go on, reveal your super-secret assessment that makes you more than some obligate parasite. Let's hear your "unique" dictum.

>>19099941
A man who consciously dresses to the contemporary fashion of several decades prior and then condescends to people who dress to current fashion is not an intellectual. It's precisely "dark academia" for the 80s.

>>19099957
It means his pen is penetrating your dick hole and secreting wisdom into your testicles

>>19099957
I don't have a ""unique" dictum" because I'm not trying to win an audience on twitter (or television).

>>19099971
Brilliant, hope you're teaching at the Sorbonne with such an exemplary mind. Wouldn't want your pillow fuck-sessions to go unappreciated.
>>19099994
That's a shame.

I'm the person who subtitled this video over a year ago. I've just subtitled a second one: Nabe filmed in his apartment whilst reacting to the news of 9/11.
(Apologies for the couple of typos on Apocalypse!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1basERlxOJU

>>19099961
>condescends to people who dress to current fashion
Imagine missing the point this hard.

>>19100033
lick my unshaved taint after a 30 min shit session faggot

>>19100198
Based. Are you a /lit/? How did you know about this thread?

>>19100277
Realized this morning that the first video got about 600 views in the last 2 days, which is unusual. I assumed it had received attention somewhere and had the instinct to check on here.

>>19100277
/lit/ bro*

>>19098492
giving citizenship to algerian jews was a mistake.

>>19100297
Neat. Please subtitle more.

>>19100297
Keep on the good work. Any other cool video by/with him?

>>19097488
>You seem to think you can live outside society, this is wrong 99% of cases.
Try to have a remote job. Done.
>>19097612
Alahan Sourate.
>>19098748
Also this. It's asthonishing that there is still people that follow this shopkeeper Soral in 2021.
I mean, the 2007-2012 era was interesting. After, ER was only about selling videos, égalité et réconciliation paid membership, and soral luxury hotels when he gave his little conventions.

>>19100992
who the fuck is Soral? some quirky French critic or what?

>>19092027
Because he's /lit/ personified as one guy said.

A complete tryhard without any depth or substance, is entire philosophy, work, ideology is centered around being a noisy contrarian and a cheap provocateur ( And like all provocateur he eventually became a pathetic hasbeen ).
He have some talent playing with words, but even his style is completely over the top and uselessly technical, he like to think himself as a Céline, but he's far closer to San Antonio, a comic writer, than anyone else.
It's just a bunch of provocative stuff loosely pieced together to trigger everyone he can, bloating every phrase with as much stylistic device as he can, absolutely no substance, kinda obvious considering almost all his books are autobiographical, the man have absolutely nothing to tell.

And btw this interview never "destroyed" his career, he published his first book as a contrarian edgy faggot and he presented himself as such, it's exactly the comm he wanted.

>>19094941
>DUDE A BOOK BUT WITHOUT THE LETTER E LMAOOO
Reddit tier writer and thinker. Oulipo is full of hacks

>>19100198
much appreciated, anon

>>19101645
>>DUDE A BOOK BUT WITHOUT THE LETTER E
sounds based, did he really do that?

>>19101524
A failed artist, filmmaker, actor, writer and journalist who turned to the conspiracy buisness, a french speaking Alex Jones with a deep resentment for Jews.
He was Nabe's friend too, both slightly talented but equally pathetic, he is much more influential though.

Shame he was never able to replicate that energy in his writings

>>19102141
He mellowed out

>Are you antisemitic?
>I won't talk without my lawyer being here
>Mr Ben Cohen Solal de Schwarzfeld

>>19101632
Anon's full of shit.
Few contemporary French writers have had as many things to say and as much style to say it.
His early books are full of deep insights into jazz music, burlesque cinema, painting. His four-volume diary is literally a chronicle of late-80's early 90's French social, cultural and political life. The fact that it is done through a personal and autobiographical prism doesn't mean it doesn't have a valuable vision. All of L'homme qui arrêta d'écrire (2010) was a sum of observations and analysis on contemporary Parisian life and generation Y.

The novel le Bonheur (1988) mixes transpositions of his family life with a reflection on art and linguistic inventivity and literay resonances. How can one compare that to San Antonio? "L'Enculé" (2011) is hilarious satire on Dominique Strauss-Khan - honestly one of the funniest books I've eve read.

He also tackled conspiracy theories way before it was mainstream. His analysis of islamic terrorism, whether you agree with his conclusions or not, rests on extensive work and knowledge, which is reflected in over 20 years of writing - Une Lueur d'Espoir (2001), J'Enfonce le clou (2004), the Patience magazines, his latest massive essays Les Porcs... etc. There's plenty to get out of his massive body of work, if you can read French. It goes way beyond those clichés - provocateur, contrarian - that some people lazily spew out.

>>19101524
Someone who thinks he is the ultimate adversary to the french "elite". While literally selling videos 3 euros, selling goodies in his website égalité et réconciliation, selling égalité et réconciliation memberships, having other business, like wine (sanguino veritas), organic products (au bon sens), and survival kits with his ex business partner Piero San Giorgio.
He criticize the jews, but his main activity is huckstering and money, like the archetypal jew.
Also, he constantly criticize and accuse people of being sophists, when he literally is one, indeed, selling videos for money, like he does is literally the definition of a sophist from Socrate, in Plato complete works. Indeed, Plato criticized sophists, these knowing people going from cities to cities, selling their knowledge to young people in order to educate them.
>>19101707
Alex Jones has said some interesting things. Soral not even that you can find in any amazon book on geopolitics, or other things that could be find on any good fringe knowlege. For example, here on 4chan, you find a ton more of information than on this little website called égalité et réconciliation.

I'm a frogfag and a big fan, his recent book Les porcs is an amazing description and analysis of the counter culture "right wing" scene of the last 20 years in France and very fun to read if you're french and know a little bit about it

>>19099293
Momma! (who?)

>>19099927
Blanchot has articulated similar.

>>19092566
They didn't listen to him. Many such cases. He went on and on about how writing is killing and simply interpret it as he's a bad guy.

>>19101632
Sounds right