/lit/ - Literature

>>18996252
Start with the Greeks.

Read the /lit/ guide to western phil.

Unpopular fact: Max Stirner was just an unfunny ripoff of Nietzsche. There's a reason no one takes his ideas seriously.

>>18996252
picking a random work by a western philosopher and reading until another work is referenced.
continue ad infinitum.

>>18996252
start with the greeks

>>18996323
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>>18996252
Start with human action

>>18996314
Stirner predates Nietzsche. If anything, he is a rip off of Callicles.

>>18996252
However you get through as long as you actually read it and don't piss your pants every time some anon disagrees with you.

>>18996252

>>18996314
>There's a reason no one takes his ideas seriously.
Like Marx, Evola, and Mussolini?

The correct way is not to read it, but to simply experience so much life that you inevitably arrive at the correct conclusions as a product of your broad perspective and deep empathy.

>>18996314
No one takes his ideas seriously because there is no room to debate. He is arguing from truisms.

>>18997612
This but unironically.

Positivism is the only worldview with any credibility and it inevitably leads to the conclusion that the correct philosophy is fictionalism. Philosophers don't like this so they ignore it though, even despite lacking any form of serious argument against it.

>>18997586
Kek filtered

>>18996252
There are several correct 4chan ways to read philosophy.

The classic is to read Stirner, claim that getting pussy is a spook, and that you are quite happy with not getting it.

Another is to read Schopenhauer, claim that getting pussy is an affirmation of the will to life, and that such an affirmation should be rejected, and that you are quite happy with not getting it.

A third would be to read Weininger, claim that women and getting pussy is bad, and that you are quite happy with not getting it.

Fourth, you may read Plato, claim that carnal eros is of a lower form, and hence that you are quite happy with not getting pussy.

Fifth, you could read someone like Evola, the true master of not getting pussy, and claim that it is degenerate to get pussy, and thus, you are quite happy with not getting any.

Sixth, you could read Nietzsche, who famously claimed that with prolonged abstinence, the semen is reabsorbed into your blood, allowing you to become more vital, and that hence, not getting pussy is actually something you are very satisfied with.

Seventh, you could read Kant, and agree that sex for the purpose of pleasure is beastly and denies human dignity, and that you are therefore quite happy not getting any pussy.

Eighth, you could read the stoics, claim that carnality is barbarism, and that you are therefore quite happy not getting pussy.

I mean the possibilities are endless for reading philosophy the 4chan way.

>>18996291
fpbp
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>>18996252
i'm gonna /thread myself

>>18997625
Verify that one ought only to believe something if it is verifiable

>>18996314
Stirner came first and inspired many of Nietzsches ideas retard.

the 4chan way is to never read (understand) any philosophy because you are a 20 year old shit for brains

>>18996252
>reading post-16th-century-Western-"""""philosophy"""""
You don't. Literal waste of your time.
Go back to Shankaracharya instead.

ANCIENT:
Presocratics & Sophists:
McKirahan – Philosophy before Socrates
Kerferd – The Sophistic Movement
Reale – Origins to Socrates
Copleston Volume 1 (whole era to medieval)

Socrates:
Morrison – Cambridge Companion to Socrates
See: Copleston
See: Reale

Plato:
Complete Works
See: Copleston, Reale (Plato & Aristotle)

Aristotle:
Complete Works
Lear – Desire to Understand
Joseph Owens – The Doctrine of Being in the Aristotelian Metaphysics
See: Copleston, Reale

Hellenistic philosophy:
see: Copleston
A.A. Long – Hellenistic Philosophy
See: Reale (Systems of Hellenistic Age)

Roman philosophy:
See: Copleston, Reale (Imperial Age)
Morford – Roman Philosophers


Neoplatonism:
See: Copleston
See: Reale
Plotinus – Complete Works
Neoplatonism – Hackett
Plotinus – Gerson
Gerson - The Cambridge History of Philosophy in Late Antiquity 2 Volume Paperback Set
Dillon, Gerson – Neoplatonic philosophy

Pseudo-Dionysius:
Louth – Denys the Areopagite
Perl – Theophany
O'Rourke – Pseudo-Dionysius and the Metaphysics of Aquinas
Coakley, Stang – Re-thinking Dionysius the Areopagite

Boethius:
Marenbon – Cambridge Companion to Boethius
Marenbon – Boethius (Great Medieval Thinkers)

Augustine:
Complete Works
Cambridge Companion to Augustine (Stump)
Gilson – Christian Philosophy of Augustine
Copleston vol. 2

Transmission of Greek philosophy under Byzantium and Islam:
Peter Adamson – Philosophy in the Islamic World
Laughlin – The Aristotle Adventure
Williams, Walsh – Philosophy in the middle ages
Copleston Volume 2
Copleston - A history of medieval philosophy

>>19000137
I would be careful about reading Advaita Vedanta interpretations such as Shankara's as a commentary to the Upanishads, they are extremely reliant on Buddhist philosophy (Shankara is called a "cryptobuddhist" by most Hindus, and most scholars agree). If you want to read the Upanishads, work through them with editions and commentaries that aren't sectarian, or at least read an interpretation that is closer to the original meaning of the Upanishads, rather than Shankara's 9th century AD quasi-buddhism.

>>19000214
MEDIEVAL:

Overview:
Copleston – vol 2&3, A history of medieval philosophy
See: Williams, Walsh
Pasnau - The Cambridge History of Medieval Philosophy (2 volume)
Gilson – History of Christian Philosophy
Gilson – Spirit of Medieval philosophy
Gracia, Noone – A companion to Philosophy in middle ages
Kretzmann, Kenny – Cambridge History of Later Medieval Philosophy
Luscombe – Medieval Thought
Marenbon – Medieval Philosophy: An Historical and Philosophical Introduction
Klima – Medieval Philosophy

Eriugena:
Moran – The philosophy John Scottus Eriugena

Anselm of Canterbury:
Brian Davies – Cambridge Companion to Anselm

Peter Abelard:
Marenbon – Philosophy of Peter Abelard

Albertus Magnus:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/albert-great/


Aquinas:
Complete works
See: Copleston
Feser – Aquinas
Pieper – Guide to Thomas Aquinas
Copleston – Aquinas
Aquinas' Shorter Summa
Stump – Aquinas
Davies – The Thought of Thomas Aquinas
Kretzmann – Cambridge Companion to Aquinas
Davies – Oxford Handbook of Aquinas
Kreeft – Summa of the Summa

Duns Scotus:
See: Copleston
Williams – Cambridge Companion to Duns Scotus
Gilson – John Duns Scotus
Ingham – Philosophical Vision of John Duns Scotus

William of Ockham:
See: Copleston
Marilyn Adams – Ockham 2 vols.
Spade – Cambridge companion to Ockham

Bonaventure:
Complete Works
See: Copleston
Gilson – Philosophy of St. Bonaventure
Cullen – Bonaventure
Ratzinger – Theology of History in St. Bonaventure

School of St. Victor:
Hugh of St. Victor
Richard of St. Victor
Godfrey of St. Victor

Scholasticism/Thomism:
Feser – Scholastic Metaphysics, Five Proofs, Aristotle's Revenge
W. Norris Clarke – The One and the Many
Garrigou-Lagrange - Reality: A Synthesis of Thomistic Thought
Garrigou-Lagrange – God, His existence...volumes
Kerr – After Aquinas
Cessario – Short History of Thomism
Oderberg – Real Essentialism
See: Copleston

Molina/Molinism:
MacGregor – Luis de Molina

Suarez:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/suarez/
Hill, Lagerlund – Philosophy of Francisco Suarez
Schwartz – Interpreting Suarez

>>19000214
>>19000221

This is pretty much it. You can ignore everything after that.

>>18999214
kek

>>18999214
kek'd

>>19000214
>The Sophistic Movement
This is the only work listed you should read. The rest of it is just pure, abstract garbage.

>>18996252
You will never read through all of western philosophy. Just pick up the books that interest you and read the books that are referenced.

Start with the Greeks or Call of the Crocodile

>>18999214
one of the most based post i have read on this board