/lit/ - Literature

yes

>>18983535
propaganda war.
they literally infect everything

>>18983535
Wikipedia is Cathedral'd. DL an old version.

>>18983535

As a former wikipedia editor, it's bullshit pettiness and politics. I will create an article and then someone with 100,000 edits will start fucking up my shit and yelling at me to justify why I included that a certain iraqi official gave a comment on his government's involvement in war crimes

The people who edit Wikipedia have always been mentally off. Mostly extremely autistic people and control freaks. This was great before the culture war really heated up, because they wrote really detailed and accurate articles. But this personality type is extremely susceptible to becoming an SJW or troon. I assume anyone who wasn't leftist was cancelled leaving only the most insane people writing today

Wikipedia has always been fucking shit, exactly what >>18983584 says, it attracts the weirdest kind of terminally online busybody subhuman. The same kinds of people who want to moderate forums.

That was already the case in 2012, but since then it has been colonized by every political group, every lobby, every "marketing agency" (dystopian online consensus generation and viral marketing) pushing the messages of particular groups and lobbies, every useful idiot tranny and liberal with nothing better to do than fight online culture wars all day, and also, unironically, the deep state (in a boring, non-exciting, non-conspiracy sense most of the time).

Because of its fame and ubiquity it was seen as an ideal consensus control/generation tool by all the post-2012 subhuman scum of the earth who live only to bicker with their family members about whatever MSNBC told them recently, and behind all these tranny busybodies are the aforementioned groups and actors who have an interest in using the busybodies as unwitting soldiers. Think of how much damage you can do to the credibility of alternate narratives when the four default information sources - wikipedia, google, social media, and news media - are controlled by you, and can algorithmically massage (hiding or signal boosting) messages as you desire, suppress or simply fail to report on what you like, ban people you don't like or make them live in constant fear of banning, and label anything you don't like as a "conspiracy theory."

It's sad because the original goal was beautiful, and when it was only overrun by busybody faggots, it actually worked okay in spite of itself.

>>18983558
For every three 100,000 edits nolife trannies on wikipedia, one is being paid, another is a psycho who only edits wikipedia to push their niche worldview, and the third is just an idiot who lives for online forum drama and power trips.

>>18983557
Larry sanger is just as biased
Read his Twitter and you will see constant retweets of conservative talking heads

>>18983558
>someone

>>18983584

>>18983535
>noooo! stop accurately summarizing this ideologue, you're making us look bad :(

>>18983535
The most blatant propaganda I have seen is Olavo de Carvalho's page. But now anything COVID related is just as bad.

I can't find it, but there was a good write-up by some long-time Wikipedia user and lesswrong guy documenting what went wrong with. To make a long story short, English Wikipedia became philosophically dominated by an ideology called deletionism. The deletionists think Wikipedia should have the absolute least amount of information possible, and to get there, set up a Byzantine notability system that was excessively punishing for everyone that wasn't living and breathing on Wikipedia. These notability rules give the highest power to coverage in mainstream journalism, which made it hard for niche topics to survive deletion and enforced a social liberal bias on the website.
Part of the reason why hard deletionism became the ideology of English Wikipedia is because the founder of Wikipedia had a conflict of interest. He wanted the content there to be shallow so that you would have to use his ad-filled Fandom service instead if you wanted to have articles for things that lacked mainstream journalist coverage (which resulted in the infamous Pokemon purge).
Finally, Wikipedia, being one of the most famous free resources on the internet, has several users whose full time job it is to edit articles to fit a narrative or activist movement (some, like LGBT and feminist activism, are officially endorsed by Wikipedia). The deletionist ideology + notability rules that always defer to things like the NYT + poweruser cliques and paid editors created the mess that is English wikipedia today.

>>18983951
very interesting

>>18983550
>Still calling the Synagogue a "cathedral"
Moldbug is one of them and is deliberately running cover for the rest of them.

>>18983951
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a0yECx0pNAA

>>18983535
Why are libtards/SJWs/whoever obsessed with
1. Fitting all of human history into the twenty terms that makes up all of political discourse as of 10 years ago
2. Leading with the fact that X is popular with bad people, rather than describing X

>>18984063
because they don't critically examine people.
They're like ants that use pheromones for directions, food, and recognizing each other, except they use words.
good label -> good guy & ally
bad label -> bad guy & enemy
Using these labels when first introducing someone tells the antmen whether to spread-eagle and accept this person's ideas or to be overly critical and shut off form them

>>18983874
Everything in the bottom article is true.

>>18984234
So is the upper article.

>>18983535
I like how they cite some random woman for Evola's definition of suprafascist rather than use Evola's definition top kek

>>18983550
>an old version
which one you recommend?
like, 2014? I got a download from like 2020.

>>18983623
I feel there was definitly a point though where most wiki articlues were generally ok, even political ones, and you could easily figure out which ones were not by the change in how things were written from a non judgmental recording tone, to a more passionate/sensationalist one. as well as other indicators.

>>18983648
The one thing to be said for Twitter is how it prompts impulsive exposure like that. Stranger still is how oblivious its users often remain to the fact that they're doing something almost like publishing their diaries, when they wouldn't dream of doing that in book or pamphlet form.

Wikipedia is the American gov.

>>18983535
Even if you think the bottom one is more accurate it is written so poorly that it deserves to be removed.

>>18983535
Communist subversion funded by qui

>>18983940
>Olavo de Carvalho's page
You win

>>18984385
This kek, as they say, better to remain silent etc. Sanger would just seem like a principled man of ideas if he didn't have a twitter account that outed him as a butthurt reactionary chudcel. Many such cases.

Obvious political bias should be banned from wikipedia yet it appears to be a part of every article. Wikipedia started as something that couldn't be trusted because anyone can edit it, ot being something that could be trusted because anyone can edit it, to something that cannot be trusted because only a small group of power users dictate what edits actually get published.

>>18983535
I only use Wikipedia for inane stuff and things which are apolitical, like mathematics. Anything vaguely political will be useless. Maybe a language like Arabic is different, but the English wikipedia cannot be trusted on politically contentious topics.

>>18983535
far left communists/satanists have consolidated admin powers among themselves. it sounds like a joke but it really is not. go look at the user pages of active admins, they'll confirm it for you themselves.

tldr: dont bother reading wikipedia for anything that isn't hard science or history unrelated to current politics.

>>18983535
His Wikipedia article is even more aggressive now, that 2018 revision is nothing

>>18983535
I dont get your butthurt, the recent page seems less "ideologue" and more neutral about describing the guy

>>18984712
“Neutral” alright dude

>>18984752
What part do you disagree with? Seems fine other than maybe the last quote.

>>18984823
t. leftist

>>18984703
Mathematics Wikipedia is really good. You can feel the original Wikipedia autism dripping from every article and that's wonderful for mathematics. Just pure true things, bias is obliterated from orbit.

>>18984823
In what frame of mind would you think Julius is more important for his antisemitism than for his occult?

>>18984890
Why are you so worried about what people think of Julius? He's dead. What do you gain from defending him?

The noble spiritual legacy of Evola is guys bitching about snoy edits to his Wikipedia article

>>18983648
A person is allowed to be biased retard

>>18983648
The difference is people don’t consult his Twitter for information, faggot

>>18984915
Why are you changing the subject subhuman?

>>18984915
You are disingenuous.

>>18984823
>antisemitic conspiracy theories
yeah, this certainly wasn't written without the intention to filter normies out

OP is bitching about wikipedia, Evola was just an example.

>>18984823
See, this poster is a perfect example of an indoctrinated simpleton.
The language games and propaganda employed is immediately obvious based on this reason: the vaguely neutral article describes what he actually proffered or believed, the propaganda first describes things he was "against" (anti) by a secondary source. The propaganda describes exclusively what is relevant to the polemic propagandist, such as him being "racist." This reductionism is antithetical to knowledge. All that matters is the party, and all that matters of its enemies is how they're against the party.

This thread is fascinating.

Someone should write a novel about the history of Wikipedia and it's related drama.

>>18984320
Probably before the culture wars, so pre-gamergate. 2010 should do the trick.

>>18984328
I remember those days. Nowadays all political articles are garbage fires.

>>18984933
You don't have any authority to determine what we discuss - I do. So, again, why are you obsessed with his image? You certainly aren't pursuing people to treat him better either.
>>18984936
Why are you so mad? You came to 4chan to vent about some dead sophist you're obsessed with - like people are suppose care.

>>18983648
There's a giant difference between a Wikipedia article and a personal twitter account. If he started shoving his opinion in unrelated articles, it would be an issue.

What happened to /lit/ over the last few years? I can easily spot the poltard bias and tone in every thread nowadays.

>>18984986
You give too much importance to Wikipedia and twitter. That probably explains why you care so much about the ramblings of some idiot like Evola.

>>18984980
People are discussing Wikipedia bias and you're too dumb to understand the topic so fuck off

>>18984915
It's not about Julius, you autist. It's about spastics using an aggressive tone and biased information in their articles instead of sticking to dry facts.

When I read "Julius was an antisemitic conspiracy theorist" I hear "the editor is a seething transgender jew editing the page to score some imaginary internet points against those nasty Nazis".

>>18984987
We're reacting to the wider leftist bias that is forcefully shoved down everyone's throats but what you need to know is that you will never be a woman

>>18984988
I couldn't care less about Evola. I care about Wikipedian social dynamics and the mental landscape of average editors.

>>18984980
>>18984915
>>18984823
>>18984712
>Retard uses buzzwords and platitudes to "describe" his feelings
You don't deserve anyone's time, you're not interested in actual conversation, nor have you read Evola.

>>18985017
I don't read Evola because I find him worthless; just like this thread. I would never read an idiot like him.
>>18985004
I'm not leaving - its my thread.
>>18985005
No, its really about you, an autist, freaking out about a wikipedia page. How much of life do you really have to care about such things? I can't imagine being so pathetic in life that caring about something as frivolous, as this, would take up so much time.

>>18985026
Bait or single digit iq + mentally ill

>>18983535
I swear to God, in every lit thread there's actual discussion until, at some point, there appears some faggot (probably from discord?) that just completely ruins any engagement; this creature(s) then uses every logical fallacy and fucks off to another thread.
I will never comprehend what pleasure these people take from doing this.

Leftist admins and veteran editors that gladly jumped on the culturewar train. You can edit all you want, but you are dirt compared to an admin.

>>18985036
Blame people replying to it

>>18985026
>ugh why do you even care if we're rewriting the single greatest source of knowledge in the modern world to fit our narrative bro don't you have a life bro ugh

>>18985036
I can't imagine a retard actually coming to 4chan for a serious conversation. You really think too highly of yourself to believe people here ought to respect you, your opinions and your threads.

>>18985042
Everyone has a narrative, retard. So do you. t. Why are so angry at that? Besides the fact that Evola, much like you, is a nobody. What do you care ?

Is there a psychological term for the kind of person who edits Wikipedia articles or moderates sunreddits? You know, the tranny janny archetype. Why are they all like that?

>>18985042
Not him, but I think you are giving Wikipedia too much credit. There is a reason many don't consider it a reliable source.

Is there a psychological term for the kind of person who edits Wikipedia articles or moderates subreddits? You know, the tranny janny archetype. Why are they all like that? What happened during the past decade to make them go from being awkward geeks to what they are now?

>>18985007
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a tranny

>>18985062
It's the most important contemporary encyclopedia and resource for general information, don't gaslight or people will assume bad faith like for that other retard.

I will not respond to that faggot. You know who you are.
>>18985060
I've known a psychological term for them but I've forgotten... As for the reason they're like this, is because the current neo-lib establishment is the only one who give them power. I'm not a fan of Nrx, but they did nail the term "Biological Leninism" for these sorts of people.

>>18984987
The poltard bias is everywhere, and it is only a consequence of the obvious leftist propaganda shoved down our throats left and right, this thread is testimony to that, Wikipedia is testimony to that.
Your problem is that you are convinced that the user base of /lit/ changed, that it was invaded by poltard. When in reality, the user base remained pretty much the same, it just became radicalised by numerous examples of blatant anti-intellectualism, propaganda, cancel culture (modern autodafes) from the modern left.
If you are truly an advocate of truth, if you respect other people's opinion, you can only feel genuine rage at what the American left is collectively doing.
They are quite literally brainwashing millions upon millions, you'd be blind not to see it. I mean, Trump is banned from Twitter while the Taliban's spokesman is free to speak there (and does daily). That's a single example, a mere symptom, if you want, of what is truly going on.
If you cannot see the illogical bias, the lies, the disinformation, the dishonesty in the modern American left, then you cannot understand why so many people turned to the radical right, and your only explaination of the phenomenon will be "just 2016 election retards invading our beloved board" as if those people spontaneously spawned from below the earth with all the 4Chan codes and lingo and started invading boards. You couldn't be further from the truth.

You really have no life. Imagine caring this much about life.

>>18985090
Based.

>>18985090
See
>>18985101

>>18985090
This. Been coming on this board on an off since 2011 and I used to be a what was considered a leftist then. I'm still pretty much the same but now I'm what's considered a fascist.

>>18985109
If you don't care stop posting and let people who care discuss things.

>>18985101
>me on the right
People have too much free time.

>>18984241
One employs ethos, and the other doesn't. You tell me if ethos is appropriate anywhere in an encyclopedia.

>>18985101
>>18985117
Wow, le epic based man that doesn't care xDDD

>>18985143
hahaha le epic armchair philosopher

I knew very early on how terrible the site was because I watched how Rotten Tomatoes got their start by manipulating every movie page into including their ratings.

What I don't understand is why do people not resist... They just swallow it all, I don't fucking understand...
They could literally, idk, decide to remove the Coliseum because it's a fascist reminder of the slaver Roman empire and people would be eh... such a shame... ok... the only backlash would be from people in the yourism biz who'd be damaged economically
how, HOW are people so passive?

>>18985170
>I'm so woke and awake!!! WHY DOESN'T ANYONE UNDERSTAND ME?
Leftists do the same shit. You guys are retards who think people do not have agency unless they agree with you 100%. Its narcissism.

>>18983535

I tried to alter the wiki page for that trans unicorn ranch, describing them as a compound rather than a community and anarcho communist. No matter how many different sources you provide they’ll reject anything ideologically out of line.

>>18985178
but when I tell them about it they agree with me, they just go "ehh but what can you do" you disgusting tranny monstrosity

>>18983535
Congrats loser, you can die happy. You rustled the jimmies of idiots for a couple hours. Amazing work friend. Cheers.

>>18985186
Imagine thinking the trannies you hang out with on Discord are a representative sample size of the real world. Nobody cares about this shit besides stupid 20 something year old cuckholds like yourself.

>>18983623
>terminally online busybody subhuman.
This. People think the Scots wikipedia fiasco was an isolated incident, it's really the norm for the site, just a little more productive and not as terminally retarded.

>>18983535
Is this an actual article? In what world is telepathy considered extreme or metaphysical?

>>18983623
Blessed post

>>18983623
I hate these niggers so much. What can be done about them? These autists have ruined the internet.

>>18984823
If you read Evola, his anti-semitism pretty much never comes up in any of his works, and you could say that he was quite sympathetic towards them compared to his contemporaries.

>>18984124
kek

>>18984063
because Americans are terminally shrill subhumans

>THIS ARTICLE IS PART OF A SERIES ON BAD-WRONG-EVIL

>>18985223
>

>>18983535
>I can easily spot leftist bias and tone in every article nowadays.

>>18984711
>Giulio Cesare Andrea Evola (/ɛˈvoʊlə/; Italian: [ˈɛːvola];[1] 19 May 1898 – 11 June 1974), better known as Julius Evola, was an Italian philosopher, poet, and painter whose esoteric worldview featured antisemitic conspiracy theories[2][3] and the occult.

>Goodrick-Clarke wrote that Evola's "rigorous New Age spirituality speaks directly to those who reject absolutely the leveling world of democracy, capitalism, multi-racialism and technology at the outset of the twenty-first century. Their acute sense of cultural chaos can find powerful relief in his ideal of total renewal."[48] Thomas Sheehan wrote that to "read Evola is to take a trip through a weird and fascinating jungle of ancient mythologies, pseudo-ethnology, and transcendental mysticism that is enough to make any southern California consciousness-tripper feel quite at home."[61]

Boy you weren't kidding lmao. What the fuck s this garbage?

Same thing that is happening in education, peer-reviewing etc etc

It's an organized effort to ruin society, fake made up shit over truth.

>>18984915
Literal jew. Weasel faggots like you are why people are anti-semitic.

>>18984063
Wow, you're actually retarded enough to fall for the basic us vs them thinking and actually vapid enough to think it's only sjws the do it. Wow. What a mongoloid.

>>18985050
>le 4chan is just for le silly shitposting dont le think so le hard
Kill yourself. I mean it. You faggots are brain poison.

>>18985231
Friedrich Nietzsche, better known as Neetch, was a German philosopher, philologist and pianist whose esoteric worldview featured eugenics theories and the support of slavery.

>>18985189
>nobody cares bro just stop caring bro like just stop caring let those in power do what they want unimpeded caring is for squares bro
When the time comes, you and They will have to flip a coin for who gets lined up against the wall first.

>>18985189
>Imagine thinking the trannies you hang out with on Discord are a representative sample size of the real world.
I AM TALKING ABOUT REAL PEOPLE YOU STUPID FUCKING TRANNY MOTHERFUCKER

>>18985235
It is us vs them (you) tranny

>>18985249
Does a SWAT team need to come visit you? It doesn't take a coin flip for that. The police only need three digits, and an itchy trigger finger,
>>18985251
>You
>Going outside
>Having friends
Thanks for the kek, anon.

Stop replying to this subhuman retards >>18985266

>>18985242
>4chan is for serious business
You're clearly new. You might want to go back to ebaumsworld my friend.

>>18985266
For being such a statist cuck you might want to look up the laws in burgerland before you make threats, tranny.

>>18985275
>le serious business
>le ebaumsworld
What is this, 2004 Maddox? Go home, tranny.

>>18985066
Would make an interesting psychology article, that's for sure. Is it something inherent in the types attracted to those jobs or is it a power corrupts absolutely kind of thing?

>>18985289
It's American in origin, it's basically digital puritanism.

>>18985289
It's narcissism and psychopathy or some combination. Maybe a bit of histrionic PD as well.

>>18985284
Do you want the casket open or closed
Also,
>Cries about statists
>Defends and utilizes their laws
Lmfao
I'm guessing you want it closed. Gotcha.

>>18985284
It's funny because talking about a desired revolution is legal, whereas threatening to "swat" someone isn't.

>>18985298
I hope you're gonna pay for their plane ticket, tranny, cause I don't live in burgerland. Maybe dip into your HRT budget.

>>18985292
Weird how Europe basically embodies it then...

>>18985304
Because Europe has done nothing but inhale America's trash culture for decades. The tide is shifting.

>>18985292
Nah it's Jewish

>>18985310
The only tide I see shifting is america getting fed up with the metropolitans running the show. Euros are fully submerged in their misanthropic authoritarianism.

>>18985312
Burgers just bought what the Jews are selling (burgers). Stop blaming the parasite for your cucked immune system, trannynigger.

>>18985313
If there's one thing I've learned lately, it's that if you don't live there, you're just talking out of your ass. I've read enough mutt fan fiction about the CCP (... any day now...) that I don't care for the rest.

>>18985323
Stop deflecting. The issue is with the parasite and should be eliminated. Pretending it doesn't exist and you just need better "immune system" is coping.

>>18985090
The antithesis of the plethora of leftist propaganda (rw "extremism") should be fueled to counterbalance the main narrative. The cuckservative, apolitical nondualist diplomats sniff there own farts for criticising the right fighting back. Being a passiv critic of both sides just for the sake of not "taking sides" is cuck behaviour and is not helping at all. /lit/ is sadly full of these types because they want to seem intellectual and "above" identity politics. They will let truth be smeared with shit and the world burn

>>18985323
>if you don't live there
Where is there, we're talking about two different continents.

>>18985090

>>18985335
>if the central banks were run by gentiles everything would be heckin based!!!
Stop breathing.

>>18985101
>>18985109
>>18985117
See
>>18985336

>>18985341
>Constantly whine about problems and self viticimize
>Point out you constantly whine and do nothing to help yourself
>SEE, YOU'RE ONE OF THEM
Meds. Take them.

>>18985347
>>18985344
Try harder

I will never stop being mad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1976_Tehran_UFO_incident&type=revision&diff=719723021&oldid=717574347

>>18985117
>caring enough about not caring to post that you don't care
Midwit hypocrite nihilism in full throttle

>>18985345
>Politics is one Manichaeist struggle against "good" vs. "bad" dood - you MUST take a side
What's it like having such a smooth brain? You spend way too much time on social media. Go outside. Have sex.

>>18985347
That was my only post in the entire thread. I simply recognise that anyone telling me to "not care", to roll over and die, is my enemy. The tranny cries out in pain as he deletes your article.

>>18985229
Dilate, tranny

>>18985360
You don't have enemies. You just invent them. Its a part of your mental illness.

>>18985352
>in it's former state
>it's

>>18985365
>there's no Manichaean struggle against Evil bro, it's all shades of gray bro, haven't you watched Game of Thrones?
End your life.

Most of the retards who can't see the importance of changing Wikipedia articles to fit their narrative are either neo-libs who are a part of the system; or just braindeads who just shill for it.

>>18985370
>Thinks "good and "evil" exists
Those are just moral superstitions. You need to grow up, and get off the kid shit.

>>18985365
I have an enemy destroying my civilisation. Whether you are one of them or not is irrelevant, you say the exact same things my enemy would say, and therefore I shall treat you as one. You can try to gaslight me, whatever, but everyone watching the thread sees the way you behave "your enemies arent real", "just dont care", "take meds", "go outside". You and your ilk bring people to my side through your repugnance, in appearance and personality.

Beauty wins.

>>18985380
Whatever you say, golem.

>>18985380
Good bait, almost fell for it. Almost.

>>18985359
You are exactly the midwit intellectual passive cuck I was talking about. I turned nihilist apolitical to rw extremist after going outdide and meeting my wife. There's shootings, rapes and murders nearly every day in my based scandinsvian country because of mass immigration thanks to leftist politics and propaganda. My wife can't even walk outside past 8PM without feeling unsafe. I have a family to protect from the modern left. Fuck off back to discord, tranny. You see totally dilussional if you don't see the world is going to shit

>>18985375
>Fit their narrative
>He thinks there's a conspiracy against them because of someone editing a wikipedia page

>>18985365
We're in a political situation. Read Schmitt, you illiterate nigger.

>>18985381
You don't own a civilization though. If you did - you could control what happens to it. Truth is - no one owns anything here. You're just a temporary visitor. Its just that your narcissism doesn't allow you to see that. Its a part of your mental illness. I recommend you see a doctor.

>>18985394
Fuck phone posting

>>18985395
Fuck off with the gaslight. I will not further respond to your comments.

>>18985394
Words, words, words. I'm not reading all that. Post hidden. Don't reply back to me. I won't respond. I'm not reading all that seething

>>18985399
Where did that anon say he owns civilization. He is clearly speaking as a member of the civilization that's under assault.
>just let thing happen bro, don't try to stop bad changes
Don't be that guy

>>18985395
>>18985399
>stop noticing things bro

>go to wikipedia about something you're very knowledgeable in
>see how wrong it is, and how many liberties it takes
>disregard wikipedia as a source forever

>>18985398
Eh, nah, I don't waste my time reading anything recommended on /lit/. I don't really care about your favorite sophist, psued.

>>18985359
>>18985365
>>18985380
>>18985395
>>18985399
>>18985404
Bait.

>>18985399
Go read the discussion of the articles in question, you retarded ESL nigger.

>>18985410
>more platitudes and stupidity
Let's just let the thread die, lads.

>>18985399
>You don't own a civilization though

I was literally at war with people who kept changing articles. Wikipedia is dead. Go to anything these days and it has huge sections on racism/collonialism, or any remotely controversial figure is TRANSPHOBIC (2)(3)(4), ALT-RIGHT (5)(6)(7)

and the sources are all fucking CNN articles.

>>18985399
>you'll own nothing and you will be happy
That wasn't even related to the previous post.

>>18985407
One of the sure signs of schizophrenia is lamenting about things that aren't actually there. You need to be on medication.
>>18985406
>Civilization
>Under assault
You just don't go outside much. You don't have friends or anything.

>>18985399
I'm a share holder, I have a vested interest in civilization. Maybe when you get a fucking job you'll feel the same way.

>>18985406
>>just let thing happen bro, don't try to stop bad changes
God I hate this LARP. Especially since knowing the people in here are literally never going to leave their rooms and impact anything. The most you're going to do to stop these changes is shit up more threads on here. And this has nothing to do with you being right or wrong.

>>18984980
>You don't have any authority to determine what we discuss - I do.
holy shit what a sad life you must lead

>>18985426
You don't own anything already. You're just too afraid to accept your fate. Death is coming for you soon, and you need to come to terms with that. None of these political vanities you larp as will matter in the end.

>>18985427
>You just don't go outside much
What part of
>There's shootings, rapes and murders nearly every day in my based scandinsvian country because of mass immigration
Are you having trouble understanding

>>18983951
>several users whose full time job it is to edit articles to fit a narrative or activist movement (some, like LGBT and feminist activism, are officially endorsed by Wikipedia).
So basically it all circles back to trannies?

>>18985434
It's literal schizophrenia.
He's been doing this for hours now.
Leave him alone.

>>18985432
> And this has nothing to do with you being right or wrong.
That's cool, I feel like we could actually have a discussion about whether or not you should just ignore shit if you aren't going to have a significant impact on the problem. Most of humanity agrees that you should take a stance, why do you disagree.

>>18985430
>i propagate the system even though I think it's bad
Truly amazing cognitive dissonance. Thanks for your service o7. I smell an American response, so I can safely assume you'll be screeching about how much money you make and how many things you can buy.

>>18985435
Karl, what are you doing on /lit/?

>>18985440
He's a shill for neo-libs, mate, we should all stop responding to him since he's not interested in presenting a coherent point without resorting to buzzwords (i.e. incel, friendless basement dweller, etc.). If you continue talking with the creature it'll just continue gaslighting.

>>18985451
you sound like a third-world poorfag who doesn't go outside

>>18985451
What the fuck are you talking about. I'm trying to maintain a status quo in the face of aggressive alteration. Where the fuck did I say I think it's bad, I think it's good that's why I'm trying to keep it good. You dumbass.

>>18985399

Any halfwit can see the false equivalence you made to me being a member of civilisation, to some nonsense claim about me owning civilisation. What you ignore from my comment is more important.

You ignore that there is an enemy waging war. You ignore that you (who claim my enemy does not exist), act in the same way that my enemy does. You ignore how I point out all your arguments are the same shitty bait pointed at someone who is probably insecure. You ignore that you are ugly, and that ugliness drives people to people like me, who love life, liberty and beauty.

>>18985394
I will add you and yours to my prayers tonight Swedebro <3

>>18985430
>Being a worker
They see me neeting, they seethin & copin'
They Can't do anything about it, they cucking 9 to 5
Tryna catch me wage cucking
Tyrna catch me wage cucking

>>18984980
>why do you care about the truth?

>>18985464
>Writes a paragraph
Post hidden

>>18985459
I'm starting to see that, thank you.
Oh, he's not even a shill he's just a failure who wants to destroy the system that rejects him, gross >>18985466

>>18985474
>Destroy
What do you mean? I don't do anything. I just ride the tiger bro. My life is great. I don't work, I get benefits, I bully people on 4chan who have to go to work tomorrow - my life is amazing. You seethin' while I'm fappin'

Why are people who make politics their entire world view so boring and pathetic. Imagine being such a loser you spend your days on /lit/ seething about politics.

>>18985481
You would be amazed how damaging apathy is to a living system.

>>18985450
If the problem was some minor shift in civilization that's gonna take decades to take hold, the whole discussion becomes way more interesting. But there are many many anons in this very thread who are screaming about an immediate threat to their safety. This isn't something you should be discussing with international strangers on the internet. This is something that should be met with physical organization and protests of different forms. That's all I'm saying. I'm down for calmly discussing the problems and threats of modern ideologies. But then again I live in almost full isolation from the world and decent independence from the system, I can safely take on an apathetic outlook.
>>18985461
>haha u are poor
lmfao. Why is this the sole American comeback, ever? What's next, you're gonna tell me I am irrelevant on the world's stage? Is that your source of pride? Propagating this system you yourself find toxic? Glad I was correct in my assessment entirely. Enjoy your coca cola, amerilard. A country built on materialism then has a mass of people screeching about its side effects. Maybe being poor was the key to not suffer from your problems.
>le 56% face
Maybe a 10% face in 2 generations, idk
>doesn't go outside
Retard. I go outside, stop using these Twitter comebacks when you have no arguments. I just live in a poor country where I won't get stabbed for going outside, I know that's hard to believe.
>>18985462
This IS the status quo, what the fuck are YOU talking about. It started in early 2010s, so you either failed at keeping THAT status quo, or you're fine with propagating the current one.
>>18985474
kek. I enjoy the seethe coming from you here though. It's funny when you see yourself as above the NEETs while it does seem you're just as impotent as they are at exerting your will upon the world.
>inb4 u are NEET
I'm not. I make decent money, and I got land, more than most of you soulless urbanites can hope for. So I'm safe for all sort of shit you guys get up to.

>>18985489
Life would be so boring without destruction. I don't know why you would reject it - that's like rejecting nature. Its foolish.

>>18985505
You've been doing for 3 hours. You're a sad example of a "human" (if you can be considered that) being.

>>18985505
> But there are many many anons in this very thread who are screaming about an immediate threat to their safety
increasing crime rates is objectively an immediate threat to your safety.

>This IS the status quo, what the fuck are YOU talking about. It started in early 2010s
>It started in the early 2012s
>status quo
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>It's funny when you see yourself as above the NEETs while it does seem you're just as impotent as they are at exerting your will upon the world.
Congrats, you let the mask slip retard. Nobody cares how important anyone is here, it's literally irrelevant. Your the only one whose so obsessed with his own lack of import that he lashes out like a fucking child.
>hurr i make mone!
your descendants won't care about how much money you made if you sold their souls to make it...

>>18985506
>wanton destruction of a working structure is the same as decay in nature
You're vile

>>18985110
Same, been here since 2012 and I was always part leftist and part right wing. Got more fascist over time as things went to shit.

I don't understand how you can live at a time when TRANNIES were forcibly mainstreamed within a few years, and think it's the right that is invasive.

Imagine thinking you're above NEETs. Regardless of how long you work - everything you own will perish when you die. Me, I just enjoy myself at your expense. You don't know how much it means to me to see that you waste so much of your precious time on me, on your day off, to seethe about to your importance of your "noble causes."
>>18985517
>increasing crime rates is objectively an immediate threat to your safety.
Life live dangerously, you pussy. Stop being so afraid. You're a keyboard warrior, my friend. You're not some enlightened revolutionary. You're a kid who thinks too highly of yourself. Its people like myself, on 4chan, to set you straight.

>>18985521
>Moralfaggotry
>On my 4chan

>>18985523
If you don't let trannies molest your child you must be some sort of evil bigot racist. You're not an evil bigot racist are you? Who am I kidding, you're white

>>18985536
>says the moralfag
I liked you better when you tried

>>18983535

>>18985515
>You've been doing for 3 hours
? I joined the thread 10 mins ago. Are you conflating me with other anons to win an argument? What a strange thing to do when you've lost an argument.
>>18985517
>increasing crime rates is objectively an immediate threat to your safety.
Yes, so leave your room retard.
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Not an argument. Just really really believing you're right doesn't make you right. Please do consider fucking off.
>Congrats, you let the mask slip retard. Nobody cares how important anyone is here, it's literally irrelevant. Your the only one whose so obsessed with his own lack of import that he lashes out like a fucking child.
What does this mean? You're the one that's discrediting people for being NEETs, while functionally having the same power as them. Seems pathetic.
>your descendants won't care about how much money you made if you sold their souls to make it...
Yes. Agreed. But they will care about the safety and fertile land that's here.

>>18985529
>Life live dangerously, you pussy. Stop being so afraid.
Step one, identify the threat.
Now fuck off and leave us to our threat identification.

>>18985537
>Children getting raped
That's hilarious -why are you so hurt by that?

>>18985547
Thank you for outing yourself as irredeemably evil. Now face the wall.

>>18985529
>waste so much of your precious time
Why do people say this, it takes max 30 seconds to read and respond to a 4chan post.

>>18985515
you can spend 5 seconds and he'll seethe and actually spend time on replying
I don't even feel bad for playing with the retard

>>18985544
>But they will care about the safety and fertile land that's here.
What exactly is safe and fertile about a pillaged land and a raped people?

>>18985550
>Crying about children being raped and dying
Why are you so sensitive? Children get raped and killed all the time - who fucking cares

>>18985529
>Its people like myself, on 4chan, to set you straight.
You are a loser who can't even speak English properly and most likely lives in his parents.

>>18985556
>DOOOOOD I'M NOT MAD - I SPECIFICALLY MADE A THREAD ABOUT EVOLA TO BE DERAILED AND TROLLED BY A SHITPOSTIGN NEET
Woah, this is some 4d chess my friend

>>18985564
Not to anyone unfortunate enough to open this thread: the people who say that the subversion of wikipedia is not happening, and that you shouldn't care that your society is under attack, are the people saying that you shouldn't care about child rape.

>>18985564
I proudly live with my parents and live off the system. Is there a problem, officer?

>>18985488
To have a worldview is to have a politic because politics is applied morality. To refrain from politics is to be an unthinking slave.

>>18985537
boomer moment

>>18985559
>What exactly is safe and fertile about a pillaged land and a raped people?
Huh? All dangerous groups of people are terminally urban materialists, unable to function a day in the rural lands, which they realistically wouldn't even find.

>>18985577
Worrying about politics means you're a slave to some political party or cause. You're basically free propaganda for them. You make great cannon fodder.

>>18985523
leftist, fascist, idk u just seem like a fuckin herb to me pal

>>18985587
>participation is slavery
I mean... Only if you think being alive is suffering. I bet you would be that kind of faggot.

>>18985602
>Be a useful idiot for politicians because you're brainwashed by the electric jew
>Call everyone else a slave because they won't follow you into the abyss
Whatever you say , m8

>>18985610
>Call everyone else a slave because they won't follow you into the abyss
That is literally what you're doing

>>18985618
>Dude, the jew on the television screen says you need to be mad about X!
>You fucking slave, why don't you listen to such an open minded thinker like me!
Lmfao

>>18985621
Like I said, you were more fun when you were trying.

>>18985587
How does that follow? Why don't you start by telling me what politics is.

>>18985610
I refuse to believe people like you exist. Cattle and proud.

>>18985265
>>18985364
Dilate your pus-filled cloaca

>>18985629
The fact that you try so hard makes it, and you, so unfun to be around and talk to. Nobody who takes politics seriously is someone worth engaging with seriously. You're just a clown in a madhouse.

>I have an enemy destroying my civilisation. Whether you are one of them or not is irrelevant, you say the exact same things my enemy would say, and therefore I shall treat you as one. You can try to gaslight me, whatever, but everyone watching the thread sees the way you behave "your enemies arent real", "just dont care", "take meds", "go outside". You and your ilk bring people to my side through your repugnance, in appearance and personality.
>Beauty wins.

>>18985631
>>18985633
>doood consume politic!

great thread guys. /lit/ really got a whole lot better once its users became based and redpilled. it’s so cool fighting the culture war here in dozens of threads every day, i almost feel like ernst junger (who was based and redpilled)

>>18985652
Praise kek, my friend. The jews, the left are so close to defeat - we're just one thread away from it.

>>18985641
>The fact that you try so hard makes it, and you, so unfun to be around and talk to. Nobody who takes politics seriously is someone worth engaging with seriously.
He says, continually choosing to
>talk to
>be around
>and engage

>>18985658
Autistic people, like yourself, don't seem to get when people are bullying you for their entertainment. Just like you didn't get it when you were shoved into lockers in school - they weren't doing it to you because they wanted to be friends with you.

the bottom one clearly has a massive right wing bias. maybe you should get more adept at spotting that

>>18985381
>r, but everyone watching the thread
Imagine having such low esteem you have to seek validity on 4chan. You unironically typed this shit out too with a straight face. Holy shit.

>>18985669
>im heckin bullying you!
bullying is a dynamic, nearly impossible to reliable perform on an image board like this.
you gonna go back to trying? if you're just gonna fling shit without even pretending to have a point, i'll just leave you to fester.

>>18985676
b-but right wingery is simple human nature! the normalest state of existence!! sam hyde told me this on one of his self help vlogs!

>>18985645

>>18985381
>t.

>>18985724
>even the deformed have value in a well functioning society that's well defended from degeneration
Yes.

>>18985726
>Degeneracy
>Bad

>>18985730

>>18985726
holy cope

>>18985735
Dilate.

>>18985735
>Implying I care

>>18985726
>even the deformed have value
yeah, as ground beef

>>18985737
>>18985739
>>18985740
>>18985744

>>18983535
My goodness, I had no idea it was this bad. I recently read Evolas Wikipedia because I like doing research on authors before I read them and I was puzzled by the information put on his interactions during WW2, Im no fan of any of these modern ideologies and the dichotomies they put forth so to see it write how involved he was made me wonder. It was describing his actions but very little on hus actual thoughts about fascism rampaging through the west, it just made him sound like an elitist which just didnt line up with who he is and the types of books he wrote. Ill exclusively do research elsewhere, I knew Wikipedia was horrid but I cant even get basic information anymore, before I could at least do that if I was aware of the deception

>>18983558
All my articles have been deleted because they werent note worthy or some shit about being a stub. Most of them existed on Japanese wikipedia so idk, they were well referenced and all.

You’ll own nothing anD be happy

encyclopedia dramatica is better than wikipedia

>>18985657
Just imagine the right wing death squads we will have in a couple of decades. History is cyclical my friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHv7hHfeNsk

>>18985837
hella f*ckin epic. whats ur discord senpai?

>>18985855
Guys wtf, my screen just when really bright all of a sudden?

>>18985867
haha dont worry dude it means you just got whitepilled!

It's kinda funny how many people get trolled by literal leftypol trannies

>>18984988
>argument lost
>goalposts moved
>shaming engaged
Typical leftynigger.

>>18985992
>Conspiracies made
>Assertions called
>Meds not taken
Typical poltard

>>18986005
>micropenis caged
>anus gaped
>pozzed gaydick inserted

>>18986046
>Fantasies - engaged
>Homosexuality - repressed
>In the closet - obvious

>>18985651
Democracy was a mistake

Another great and constructive /lit/ thread. Keep it up, boys.

>>18984969
Damn.. so that is why Muslims love goats

>>18985394
>My wife can't even walk outside past 8PM without feeling unsafe.
Who sexually harasses, rapes and murders more, anon, nonwhite women or white men? Why is the common denominator immigrants and not men?

>>18986720
>Who sexually harasses, rapes and murders more, anon, nonwhite women or white men? Why is the common denominator immigrants and not men?
what's more plausible: society without men or without immigrants?

>>18985523
Don't you remember when Manning got 'a sex change' and was basically universally referred to as Chelsea and she after? That was years before Jenner and the 2016 election

>>18984962
>the language games
But the 2015 article has more language games and reads as if it was written by a 16 year old (or ESL).

>>18985855
>>18985867
>>18985870
Whether you're on the right or left, it should be obvious that the west has reached Weimar levels of degeneracy. Once there is a major crisis like an economic crash or a world war, there will be a major resurgence in nationalism and fascism. You can already see this rising in European countries in general today. Pointing out this obvious fact doesn't make someone a glownigger.

>>18986729
society that actually punishes rapists and doesn't instil values which subtly lead to rape
I believe men are capable, why don't you?

>>18986729
basado

>>18986794
Its pretty obvious that the right and left are just depots with different shades. Both rely on an infantile alarming to frighten people to waste their time their pathetic causes.

>>18986720
men are only overwhelmingly overrepresented in cases of sexual and violent assault because the criminal justice system is biased against men ;)

>>18986825
That is very racist. Do you think the societies the immigrant come from instil values that encourage rape ? Have you ever travelled and enjoyed the benefits of multiculturalism ?

>>18983535
It´s so cringe, the worst is when you go on the wikipage of some cuckservative and it says that they are a far-right notse in the first paragraph. It´s so obvious that libtards are editing it.

>>18985123
Yikes, seems like you BTFOd him.

>>18983535
>What happened to Wikipedia over the last few years? I can easily spot leftist bias and tone in every article nowadays.

I suspect you have spent "the last few years" on /pol/ etc

>>18984609
Maybe, but the top one is written as such that a libshit would just copy paste it to some other right wing thinker and then change some names. I wouldn´t actually be surprised if some organizations approached the spergs that edit Wikipedia and told them that if they push their shit they´ll get paid for it.

>>18984823
Because it´s obviously written by someone with bad intentions which can be seen from the venomous language involved. I can almost see the person who wrote it sneering through my screen.

>>18984988
>You give too much importance to Wikipedia
idiot

>>18987112
Yes, you are an idiot.

>>18986215
better than the 1000000000000000000000th lolita thread

>>18987177
Yes, metacontextual threads like this are far more interesting than the daily book circlejerk.

>>18986933
What a fucking garbage take. The state of the modern west should alarm you and will lead to a major reaction just like it has in the past. The greatest war in the history of the world happened less than a century ago and similar conditions are arising today. Trying to downplay this and accuse people of being “alarmist” is absurd. We will see serious shit go down in our lifetime (assuming you’re not a boomer).

>>18987428
He's right, though, sick of seeing Dosto and Lolita threads.

>>18987015
Our society also instils values which subtly lead to rape. Not the same values as in the Muslim world, but they still exist. How is it controversial that viewing sex as a conquest over the boundaries and airs of modesty from a subject leads to poor attitudes to sex and rape?

This is genuinely depressing and I think Evola's writings are nonsense. I hate how sanitized the internet has become after Trump's win.

>>18984823
Take a bullet to the head.

>>18984931
That was almost certainly edited by an ADL jew. lmao.

>>18984643
Yeah and then you open the references and the sources are literally the most retarded retorts of some of his claims. The ''philosophers'' who rejected his views were Dunker (a psychoanalyst) and some unknown professors from a brazilian university.

>>18987934
>>18988360
this, end of thread

>>18984969
that goat is gigantic, and not just in the arse department

Not gonna lie, that top pic of him is kino as fuck

>>18983940

Someone who believes pic rel deserves to have their wiki page flaunt all of their retardation for the world to see.

>>18983535
Whats wrong with the top?

>>18983557
>believe this literal who instead because it fits my agenda

>>18985231
They aren't wrong

>>18988846
>Using an encyclopedia for emotional validation

obligatory
https://www.scaruffi.com/politics/wikipedi.html

>>18989052
Childhood is being mad at your teachers because they won't let you use wiki as a source
Adulthood is realizing why wiki is a bad source

>>18987102
A bit but it is still better than the 2015 one. The 2015 one reads like it was written by a high schooler that just discovered Evola. The 2018 one at least sounds like it has been written by an adult that speaks English.

>>18989364
No it doesn't, like at all. Are you fucking insane?

My favourite wikipedia autism page is always the semi-regular arguments over whether Stanley Kubrick's page requires an infobox or not.

>>18989486
Expand on this?

Look at the talk page of the article on circumcision.

>>18986933
You honestly can’t be older than 16 if you haven’t noticed the change in politics and deepening cultural divide of the last ten years
>>18983535
Yes you are not crazy, you can’t just “edit wikipedia” anymore, you have to be on its council of troons

>>18989533
This is fake right? There's no way this isn't some kind of sarcastic remark.

Wikipedia allows you to cite Salon.com as a source

>>18988846
And he has a point. This is something even Wolfgang Smith addressed (with reference to other sources), this has even phenomenological implications.

>>18989508
Essentially, the infobox is the little thing on the right side of an article that gives you a basic overview of a person or thing, right? Most pages have it. Except, for Stanley Kubrick and a few other individuals, there is no such infobox. A group of power editors/admins have undertaken a crusade against 'idiotboxes' because individuals like Stanley Kubrick are too good to have them and such illustrious career's are constrained by such things. This argument has been going on for over half a decade at this point, with endless arguments over whether or not it should be included. Last time it came up discussion got banned for 2 years and it's only recently been lifted. I'm really underselling it here, the whole thing is an autism rabbithole of powertripping cliques and wikipedia politics.

>>18989598
Jesus has one

>>18989598
What the fuck? What is even the controversy?

>>18989598
>an encyclopedia shouldn't be easy to navigate
That's fucking insane.

>>18989744
I told you. Infoboxes and autism. The infoboxes themselves are the controversy. Have a look for yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Stanley_Kubrick&oldid=915689380#Rfc:_Should_an_Infobox_be_added?

>>18989781
Oh it absolutely is. The people opposing the infobox are, unsurprisingly, the people who also wrote Kubrick's article, which is massively overwrought and overlong. It's honestly a mess.

GAY THREAD ALERT

>>18985076
often true

>>18989821
There's a joke here about Stan writing the article himself

>>18984962
what the fuck are you talking about. the 2015 is arguably worse

>>18989898
Then argue it retard. Argue it so we can laugh at you.

>>18985381
Unironically get help.