/lit/ - Literature

>>18883360
start with the greeks

>books
That's not how you spell practice

>>18883379
I need to first learn about the thing before I can practice it.

>>18883360
Sadly I don't know any book in English to recommend you, but I did read some great books in my native language when I was learning to play the guitar as a teen. Truly got me into music. However, they were on the philosophical side, to understand what you want you just need a random textbook.

>>18883480
I know German and Russian, does that help?

>>18883360
>>18883397
You have to both play and understand theory to enjoy music in the way you seem to want to, however, it will change your appreciation of it. You will view great musicians more like athletes and analyze their movements rather than mysterious sound wizards. Same shit happens with writing if you study it enough and write enough.

start with the italians

>>18883379
he asked about music THEORY retard

>>18883397
>>18885068
You won't learn theory unless you have the technical skills first. Reading about a circle of fifths is pointless unless you can play one

>>18883532
Not really, I'm a Portuguese speaker.

>>18883360
>doremifasolasido
its all about the relation they have to each other man. just learn the intervals

>>18883360
Use the open music theory textbook.

since nobody reccomended a book to this poor and lovely anon, i will do it myself

Music

-Music theory for computer musicians
-The AB Guide to Music Theory by Eric Taylor
-Fundamentals of Piano Practice (III Edition) by Yvoene Combe
-The Real Frank Zappa Book
-The Beethoven Quartet Co-mpanion by Robert Winter
-Cadenza: A Musical Career by Erich Leinsdorf
-The Composer’s Advocate by Erich Leinsdorf
-The Study of Orchestration by Samuel Adler
-The Complete Musician by Steven G. Laitz
-Harmony and Voice Leading by Edward Aldwell and Carl Schachter
-Counterpoint by Kent Kennan (4th Edition)
-Effortless Mastery by Kenny Werner
-Introduction to Random Signals and Noise by Wim van Etten
-The Complete Idiot´s Guide to Music Theory by Michael Miller
-The First Four Notes: Beethoven's Fifth and the Human Imagination by Matthew Guerrieri
-A Music Primer for Schools by Troutbeck, John
-Music as an Art by Roger Scruton
-The Topos of Music: Geometric Logic of Concepts, Theory, and Performance by Guerino Mazzola
-Joscelyn Godwin works

Reference Guides

-Oxford History of Western Music by Richard Taruskin
-The Oxford Companion to Music by Percy Scholes
-Spin Alternative Record Guide
-Rationalizing Culture: IRCAM, Boulez, and the Institutionalization of the Musical Avant-Garde by Georgina Born

Treatises

-Traité de l'harmonie réduite à ses principes naturels (Treatise on Harmony reduced to its natural principles)
by Jean-Philippe Rameau

links

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>>18883360
Learn to read music then get The Complete Musician.

>>18887206
Shit list, just a random collection of books on the topic with no care for quality or scope.

>>18887602
>Shit list, just a random collection of books on the topic with no care for quality or scope.

it´s a work in progress, also the OP didn´t specify if he´s interested in either classical or contemporary music

>>18887614
Scope here does not refer to classical or contemporary and which ever is you interest the place to start is the same. Scope refers to field, that list is a mix of analysis, composition, musicology, theory, appreciation and light entertainment, it makes no sense and strongly suggests you have no clue what you are talking about.

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>>18883367
unironically this, learn the greek modes

>>18885078
t. actual retard

>>18885078
This seriously is the only answer
>>18887830
Lol

Theoryfags (wrote books on theory)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jpnWdhMNOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XnRxwV0p7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTwqBVt2Clw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cNQFB0TDfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkF5HY3QLTk
Soulchads (didn't)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yd5EE0hAB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCuA7SbzaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-TrAvp_xs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-YnagvCK5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRmCEGHt-Qk
We rest our case.

Music theory is bullshit. If you can have fun while making good sounds, you are a good musician.

>>18888125
Being able to communicate effectively is bullshit? I can sit down with any musician who knows theory, tell them the progressions and changes in 15 seconds and we can play the song well, while you miss ever change and have to fuck around for a few bars to figure out what is going on and shit up everything.

I’ll teach you for 35$ an hour OP

>>18888125
This is useful advice if you want the peak of your musicianship to be soloing on A minor pentatonic

>>18889319
This.
t. Musiclet who never learned theory and can solo an A minor pentatonic

>>18885078
Only serious answer.

>>18885078
This

>>18885784
>Not really, I'm a Portuguese speaker.
Portuguese speaker here.
Give me your best.

>>18890649
I recommend you O Som e o Sentido, by José Miguel Wisnik. He talks about the history of music while reflecting on Taoist themes and the myth of Faust (taking mostly from Thomas Mann rather than Goethe).

>>18890715
>I recommend you O Som e o Sentido, by José Miguel Wisnik. He talks about the history of music while reflecting on Taoist themes and the myth of Faust (taking mostly from Thomas Mann rather than Goethe).
Then why shouldn't I just read Doctor Faust straight?

>>18890737
No reason not to read Doctor Faustus, but the book I recommended is not fiction, it's more of a entry level guide for people getting into music.

>>18890758
How "entry level" are we talking about?
You know, I was expecting some music theory textbook or something in these lines...
i kinda believe that some of these books are like trying to learn Judo by just reading about it.
Protip: This is not gonna work.

>>18890778
Talking about the difference between melody and harmony, how we perceive something as harmonic based on the tone and similarities in sound, the history of music and the impact of composers like Bach and eg how inventive his fugues were for the time, and how classical music movements from the 20th century, like dodecaphonic music, came to be.
It's not really to get you to better you technique or to learn how to read partitures, for that you should rather study with a teacher or get a textbook, any random one should be fine. But if you want to understand a bit more of music history and the general idea of how music works in people's minds, I think it's a good entry to give a general idea. It's also short.

>>18890810
>and how classical music movements from the 20th century, like dodecaphonic music, came to be.
Based and Arrigo Barnabé pilled.

just search for tutorial playlists on youtube. thats how i learned music theory and how to compose. I'm still dogshit at playing the piano tho

>>18883360
Do you know how to play piano? It's often recommended as the best instrument to learn music theory.

On the matter of learning the piano, is there anything I should do before taking lessons? Like learning to read notes? Or maybe buy a used electrical piano off ebay?