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>date a guy
>ask if he reads female authors
>oh, sure!
>like what?
>oh you know, george eliot, virginia woolf, the brontes, sylvia plath, flannery o'connor, jane austen, the list goes on...
>not a single 21st century female author or PoC female author

can men just stop, seriously? this is such a huge fucking red flag. every single '/lit/' guy i've met is a huge incel. and when i call them out on this they get defensive and say 'i don't see the problem, i just like their stuff.' like? you just happen 'not to like the stuff' of any PoC female author? fuck out of here.

>> No.18773306

>>18773304
Extremely shitty bait anon, you can do much better

>> No.18773308

>>18773304
Alright, I'll bite. Name a single valuable book written by a 21st century woman or a nigg.

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out there somewhere right now is an angry lesbian furiously flicking her bean and yelling about "blowjacks"

>> No.18773313

>>18773304
KEK jokes on you, I don't read 21th century /lit/ by men either.

>> No.18773319

Toni Morrison, what now

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>>18773304
>tfw I will never meet a girl like this so I can ask for a recommendation, and then further charm her and fuck the life out of her after I've sufficiently built up rapport and playful dialogue. Thus showing her her petty grievances mean nothing when it comes to the power of my penis.

>> No.18773347

>>18773304
how could they be an incel if they are on a date?

>> No.18773363

>>18773347
Because this is an incel making a shit blog post about his 'dream date'. Where he would sperg and throw a cup of soda right in the face of the girl after she shits on a /lit/ meme that he loves.

>> No.18773374

>>18773304
I get this is probably bait, it always is.
But realistically consider, If pocky authors are so good they must be able to tell an engaging story with good character dialogue without mentioning politics or their nationality, right?

>> No.18773375

>>18773304
Here's all the female authors you can mention to impress retarded women who think they're smart and well, pick any 3 or 4 of these and they'll be impressed:
>Toni Morrison
>Jean Rhys
>Elena Ferrante
>Donna Tartt
>Willa Cather
>Virginia Woolf
>Doris Lessing
>Muriel Spark
>Octavia Butler
>Ottessa Moshfegh

>> No.18773389

>>18773304
Yikes major red flags. He uses a basic bitch list of women writers and they are all white. Big yikes.

>> No.18773390

>>18773304
Fakepost

>> No.18773409

the only woman on this board is butter and he's a tranny

>> No.18773414

off the top of my head i would list anne carson, banana yoshimoto, fleur jaeggy, lydia davis
not sure if they would accept a jap as a poc though, i suspect that just means "black"

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>>18773304
I've never read a single female author in my life.
What do I win?

>> No.18773437

>>18773304
My favorite PoC female author is St. Teresa of Avila.
Thoughts?

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>>18773304
I don't read anything written after 1900 by a man or woman

>> No.18773545

>>18773528
what about mein kampf

>> No.18773557

I like certain contemporary Asian female authors. I just don't like the pozzed Western dykes.

Also: Sage.

>> No.18773597

>>18773545
If you think there is literary merit in Mein Kampf, you are larping.
I mean, you obviously are. I know it, you know it, we all know. I just felt like pointing it out.

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>>18773306
why do /pol/tards do shit like this? its just obnoxious and pathetically transparent

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>>18773304
Fuck this is literally what I would have said on a date. Alright help a fellow anon out here, what 21 century female (POC or not) authors are worth checking out?

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>>18773363
>Haha anon, yes, that’s a very funny image. I was wondering if we could enjoy our dinner together or-
>I have read some Dostoevsky, I understand what you just showed me, you don’t have to explain the meme-
>Oh, you have more. The Greeks? Well, yes, I had to read- no, really, you don’t need to pull out that weird kindle of yours, I have a library near my apartment-
>Can you please not make a scene I’m sorry I called your ereader a kindle can you stop yelling everyone is staring

>> No.18774320

>>18774258
With this attitude I don't think the authors will help, mate.

>> No.18774321

>>18774258
Saying this on a date would be fine. If a girl were to actually respond like in OP on a first date, you would not want to date them.

>> No.18774329

>>18773414
Kitchen by Banana Yoshimoto is really a nice and soothing book. Good stuff

>> No.18774371

>>18773308
Ducks Newburyport

>> No.18774378

>>18773374
Famous white authors all mention those too retard.

>> No.18774390

The last acceptable year to read any work is 1955, you get LOTR and Lolita.

>> No.18774409

>>18774371
Fuck me that’s a long book - is it worth it?

>> No.18774429

>>18774320
>>18774321
Eh, who cares. I haven’t read a single book by a female author published after the 1970’s so I’m interested in getting some tips. Thank you>>18774329
>>18774371
>>18773414

>> No.18774434

>>18773375

> overrated but competent modernist
> invented by lit department, not even a writer
> good, one-note realist
> bestseller with pretensions
> unbelievably boring
> historically significant, if not always for good books
> last generation's Ferrante
> great writer and legend
> who?
> new yorker filler department

>> No.18774477

>>18774429
Rachel Cusk, Gwendoline Riley, Jane Gardam, Lavinia Greenlaw. There's lots out there, but /lit/ tends to read for purposes of character armor

>> No.18774522

>>18774434
I agree but women don’t

>> No.18775464

>>18773319
Morrison is shit. Ebonics is lit

>> No.18775486

>>18775464
Isn't

>> No.18775709

>>18773304
>date a guy
Why are you a fag

>> No.18775771

>>18774477
>but /lit/ pretends to read for purposes of character armor
ftfy

>> No.18775816

>>18774477
>Rachel Cusk, Gwendoline Riley, Jane Gardam, Lavinia Greenlaw.
Roturier.

>> No.18775835

>>18773346
sadly based

>> No.18775862

>>18773304
>only 1 shitpost thread
Shame on you, you said five per day.

>> No.18775873

>>18775816
Hasn't read them
>>18775464
Hasn't read her

>> No.18775879

>>18773308
>>18773374
>>18773375
Their Eyes Were Watching God, Zora Neale Hurston

>> No.18775887

>>18773304
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>>18774258
>frog
kys

>> No.18775892

>>18773304
yeah but also:
>not a single 21st century male author or PoC male author (except Ellison)

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>when boys are frightened of contemporary writing because it doesn't have a critical concensus they can use to hide their lack of real taste

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>>18773304
>Why yes, I enjoy the works of Murasaki Shikibu, Sei Shonagon, and Enheduanna
>You are a racist if you think Asian women and mid-Eastern women don't count as women of color

>> No.18776182

>>18775904
KEK no, I've honestly tried, but there is so much shit that is seems like a waste of time.

>> No.18776266

>>18775904
This is an excellent point, my friend. I hadn't considered it from this angle before, but I think you may have correctly identified an unhealthy tendency that I am prone to. I'll keep your criticism in mind, trying to improve in the future by venturing into more contemporary literature. Thank you for your insight.

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>>18776182
Teehee, we all know you are frightened of being seen to like the wrong thing, so you stick to established classics to avoid having to develop your own critical faculties.

>> No.18776299

>>18776270
Do you even read? Are you fucking joking? Most books are fucking bs, and it is not like I talk about them. But I unironically don't get why people aren't ashamed of publishing such shit books with their name on it. I used to download a bunch of books and read them, but for every 20 books, you get 15 which are shit, 3 which are ok, 1 which is good and 1 which is great, but it is somewhat a ripoff or mix of some classic.

>> No.18776311

>>18773313
>21th

>> No.18776324

I'll do you one more, OP you shitty troll. If you have read Sapphire you have read a XXI Century LGBIT+ AND BIPOC woman author and you can BTFO whoever because she's actually good.

>> No.18776335

>>18773304
I tried to read You by Caroline Kepnes but gave up after ~200 pages because it's even more boring and generic than the Netflix show.

>> No.18776340

>>18776324
sapphire who?

>> No.18776344

>>18773308
The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt

>> No.18776347

>>18776344
Based

>> No.18776348

>>18776311
21st fuck it. I'm non-anglo and I use roman numerals, but anons can't read them.

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>>18773304
>Asks a guy if he reads female authors
>"I don't read any books by women

>> No.18776358

>>18773304
My favorite woman author is Margaret Weis :)

>> No.18776387

>>18773304
Women and POC authors write for their entre soi circle in which I'm neither invited nor welcome. Whenever any of them writes something with an actual universal span, maybe I'll be interested.
And among contemporary male writers I only enjoy Houellebecq.

>> No.18776398

>>18774304
thats when you smack her, open hand.

>> No.18776405

>>18776299
I mean, being ashamed is too much of a stretch, but I'm not wasting my time reading those things.

>> No.18776422

But I have shakespeare

>> No.18776425

>w*men
>knowledgeable about w*men art
They unironically all consume the same 100-150 artists, contemporaries included. Just namedrop 3 non-anglo female poets and move on.

>> No.18776445

>>18776387
But isn't Houellebecq a hermetic writer, not universal (only appeals to white male incels)?

>> No.18776469

>date bitches who dont pretend to read
>dont have to get wokescolded or thi

Feels ok

>> No.18776493

>>18776445
I think he speaks of the general condition of the postmodern man in the neoliberal world. Any unattractive person can relate to his characters.

>> No.18776550

>>18776299
If only there was some way of finding out which contemporary books are worth reading rather than just downloading them twenty at a time.
Until there is, I will delegate my taste to the commissioning editors at Penguin Classics, who, unlike critics, I can trust, even though they are the same people.

>> No.18776738

>>18776340
You'd know if you read rather than talk about the same 5 books. People here are very transparent.

>> No.18776798

>>18773304
>muh red flags
My girlfriend doesn't care who or what I read unless it's something she also is into.
Stop being so insecure.

>> No.18776866

>>18773304
>not a single 21st century female author or PoC female author
I guess I have read Fiona Mosley (meh), Francine Prose (decent but not remarkable), Sally Rooney (shit prose but good insights into how millennials and zoomers think), Louise Gluck (pretty good), and Joy Harjo (ok but not as good as Gluck).

Outside of Harjo though I'm not aware of any *poc* woman who I should be reading. The two big ones I can think of (Angelou [dreadful author] and Morrison [painfully mediocre]) are dead. Who should I be reading if I want to cover that base?

>> No.18776895

>>18773304
Sappho and George Sand are all I need

>> No.18776902

Just say Alice Munro obviously

>> No.18776903

>>18773304
Not hatred for women but valuing my free time has made me automatically skip every post, article, book, or anything else that was written by a woman. I like women, my doctor is a woman, but in the publishing world they can just run their mouths saying stupid shit because they have a vagina. As long as feminism will be a thing I'll feel conditioned to use this filter and shitpost on 4chan instead.

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>>18773304
But everyone on /lit/ read Marie Kondo's book

>>18773557
>I like certain contemporary Asian female authors.
I assume Marie Kondo

>> No.18777814

>>18773597
lmao ye but for what reason, your wasting your time

>> No.18777835

>>18777412
no, I just wacthed the netflix ting

>> No.18778390

>>18773437
5 seconds google:
>St. Teresa of Avila born in Ávila, Spain
Probably bait, but still you're retarded.

>> No.18778415

>>18776469
based stacyfucker

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>>18773304
>like omg I can't believe that incel in our history of literature class only reads like JK Rowling he's such a narrow minded piece of shit, it's soo gross he asked me out yester--
>*gluck gluck glug gluck glug*
>--oh Chad I love the way you listen while I choke on your dick