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Am I ready for Pynchon? I mostly read genre stuff like Elmore Leonard and Donald Westlake. Also “literary” detective fiction like The Big Sleep and Red Harvest. I’ve also read and liked Salinger, and Hemingway’s short stories. I just wanna break into less straight forward literature and Pynchon seemed interesting, I like Paul Thomas Anderson and Alan Moore and he’s influenced them, so I just wanna know where I should start?

>> No.18733752

Yes. Just dive in.

>> No.18733754

>>18733742
idk man i thought i was ready, but GR filtered me like coffee. i think im going to just jump back in and let it wash over me.
youll probably be fine. its not like anyone you know irl actually reads, let alone read Pinch.

>> No.18733767

>>18733752
I’ll start with The Crying of Lot 49, just because it’s the shortest and sounds interesting

>> No.18733774

>>18733754
How would you describe Pynchon as a writer

>> No.18733832

>>18733774
Pynchon’s my favorite writer for sure, because my favorite thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are filled to the brim with this. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book and POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! And then you think “hmmm what’s he gonna do next, this trickster” and you pick the book back up and BZZZZ you get a shock and “hahahaha” you've been pranked again by the old Pynchmeister, that card. “Did that Pynch?” he sez, laughing “yukyukyukyuk”. Watch him as he shoves a pair of plastic buck teeth right up his mouth and displays em for you – left, right, center – “You like these? Do I look handsome?” Pulls out a mirror. “Ah!” Hand to naughty mouth. And you're on your ass again laughing as he snaps his suspenders, exits stage right, and reappears hauling a huge golden gong

>> No.18733841

>>18733774
im not qualified. ive only read 150 pages of gravity's rainbow.

>> No.18733843

he posts on this very board anon. he could be in this very thread.

>> No.18734320

>>18733774
an omega male basement dweller sniffing his own farts and yelling he he he he as he spurts out his magical realm fan fic

>> No.18734393

>>18733774
A master of parody, genre fiction chad, slapstick humorist, some of the funniest / most demented / sharpest satire you'll find out there ("how is the king like a near sighted machine gunner?" someone says at ben franklin's party in mason and dixon) , total math and sciences nut, unashamed hippy who insists on finding spirituality in the face of hard science, encyclopedic novels, maximalist, verbose, sprawling sentences, insane specificity and precision on a sentence and detail level, intricate plots that are meant to be overwhelming and are, uses many povs, maybe the most postmodern postmodernist, paranoia obsessed, cultural critic always aimed at the way big systems are built on exploiting the poor and weak, ridiculous names, master of caricature and grotesque character descriptions.
>>18733832
Kek

>> No.18734402

>>18734393
I forgot to add my 2 fav comments on pynchon i saw on this board. One said something like "pynchon is meant to be read by the unclenched" and the other responded to an anon asking "is pynchon genius or completely retarded?" by saying "unironically both"

>> No.18734438

>>18733754
> i thought i was ready, but GR filtered me like coffee.
You'll never be ready for GR. The only way to prepare for reading GR is reading GR...

>> No.18734499

>>18734438
Actually true. It wasn't until i soldiered through pt 1 that i learned to love it.

>> No.18735836

>>18733752
>>18734438
This
>>18733754
Ignore this comment, this is clearly Pynchon trying to dissuade reading of his earlier work due to embarassment.

>>18733742
>>18733767
In all seriousness, don't bother with Lot 49, just jump into GR.

>> No.18735849

>>18733832
>Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book and POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling.
Beautiful

>> No.18735863

>>18733742
Read V first

>> No.18735931

>>18733832
>Did that Pynch? he sez
Has Pynchon ever actually written this in a novel? I find it unlikely but I'd love it if he did

>> No.18736001

Don't jump right into gr, or if you do, be prepared to warm up to it 150-200 pages in.

Read inherent vice, its a detective novel. Then read his other short novels, then early to late pynchon. Faggots will tell you that inherent vice and vineland are bad, but they're incredible.

>> No.18736329

>>18734393
I like Mason & Dixon, any other novels that are similar and about the same time period? If they go into exploration, surveying, astronomy, anything, all the better.

>> No.18736349

>>18736329
The Sot-Weed Factor?

>> No.18736361

>>18736349
Looks like a good suggestion, thanks!

>> No.18736441

>>18736329
based
>>18736349
megabased

damn, sometimes I love this place

It's a pity 5% of replies here is true discussion and cooperation, but 95% is just random schizo ironic memer bullshit

>> No.18736487

>>18736329
Not really the same at all, but vollmann's seven dreams series gas aome great pieces of historical fiction

>> No.18736565

I've only read V. It was pretty difficult but it was so much fun to read it was worth the struggle.

>> No.18736962

Seconding reading Inherent Vice first and going from there.

>> No.18737079

>>18733742
the closest analog to Pynchon would be Faulkner to be t.b.h

>> No.18737097
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>>18733841
imagine stopping right before the good stuff like this guy...

>> No.18737125

>>18737097
itsall good i decided to keep reading and finished part1 only 10 minutes ago.

>> No.18737145

>>18737125
Part 2 is incredible, if you aren't hooked in after that idk what to tell you. Part 1 was quite difficult, but once your adjusted its all good

>> No.18738580

Bump =^}

>> No.18738599

im pynchon

>> No.18738860

>>18738599
hi pynchon, I'm Dad!

>> No.18738883

>>18738860
sez the fag

>> No.18739131

>>18738883
Sez mr pudding

>> No.18739690

>>18733742
Don't read him, he's shit.

>> No.18739727

don’t be intimidated. “postmodernism” isn’t all that difficult. Eliot and Pound are much harder

>> No.18740382

>>18739690
Filtered

>> No.18740412

>>18739690
Based

>> No.18740436

How is Against the Day?

>> No.18740444

>>18740436
More like Befriends the Gay LMMMMMAAAOOOO

>> No.18740461

>>18740436
A couple plot lines were great and a couple were boring. When I saw one of those sections coming, I lost morale. The anarchist cowboy story was awesome

>> No.18740687

>>18735836
>Ignore this comment, this is clearly Pynchon trying to dissuade reading of his earlier work due to embarassment.
its scary how plausible this still is

>> No.18740711

Some shitposter does a pretty good Pynchon impression and literally almost ten years later, retards still think there is even the slightest possibility he posts here

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so ww2 was started so companies could get financing to research and design high tech weapons and chemicals? i believe it

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>>18739690
Ahyuk a-and Pynchpilled

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>>18740436
It's the RDR2 of books

>> No.18742455

Is Pynchon a Patrick O'Brian fan? I noticed in Mason & Dixon they mentioned a character by that name. I also enjoy nautical tales. Also the Bos'n is named Higgs? Really? Made me roll my eyes more than laugh.

>> No.18742962

>>18740436
half sucks, half is great

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>>18740436

>> No.18743786

>>18740436
Easier to read but harder to wrap your head around than GR, mostly because pynch doesn’t spell shit out as much as he did when he was young. I don’t think it dips in the second half as much as other anons are saying, but every section where a character is introduced kind of drags, particularly with yashmeen and cyprian.
its pretty good