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How should I go about learning about his ideas? Anyone else that tackles the same sort of futuristic ideas?

>> No.18736365

>>18736358
>Anyone else that tackles the same sort of futuristic ideas?
Miya Black Hearted Cyber Angel Baby

>> No.18736498

you probably need atleast some knowledge of nietzsche, bataille, deleuze, kant, marx and the classics like greeks and spinoza

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>>18736365
Is she back?

>> No.18736617

>>18736599
Has been for a while but isn't quite as interesting as before

>> No.18736693

cia spook not worth considering

>> No.18736794

>>18736358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOVKHg_PJQ

>> No.18736903

Aside from sinofuturism and making tech billionaires into Monarchs (?) what are Land's projections/theories for the future?

>> No.18736928

He's literally the only thing you read accfag. Stop shilling.

>> No.18736956

>>18736903
>making tech billionaires into Monarchs
I thought that was Moldbug with his neocameralism

>> No.18737114

>>18736928
>accfag
got tired of your own (cringe) memes, already?
I hate to see em but I was frankly expecting something new you found out of your tranny wannabe-schizo twitter zone.

>> No.18737260

Fanged Noumena is pretty cringe but the Gender Accelerationist Blackpaper is some of the best philosophy ever written.

So Nick is a must read just for that.

>> No.18737499

>>18736903
+1

>>18736358
>Anyone else that tackles the same sort of futuristic ideas?
How is Land futuristic? I really like him but his ideas ---even if weirdly described by him--- were pretty common in a lot of writers, artists and philosophers, even before Land ouvre.

>> No.18737586

Have a good working understanding philosophy from Plato through to Heidegger, then you'll see Land is interesting but nothing special.

>> No.18737597

>>18737260
I just did a quick Google and that's wild. Humans along with our systems, and institutions are really going to be unrecognizable in the next century.

>> No.18737777

>>18736794
Alright that bit about capitalism at 19:00 thoroughly just mindfucked me.

>> No.18737789

>>18736617
What account does she post under? Is it Charlotte?

>> No.18737799

>>18736903
that's only boomer twitter con land and still only a small part of him. don't be a fuckin idiot, he has many ideas

>> No.18737804

>>18736358
Baudrillard was siding with the object over the subject long before Land was shittin his breeches and wearing a cardboard box on his head while making R2D2 noises.

>> No.18737821

>>18737789
It is. The substacks associated are occassionally worth keeping an eye on as well, although his associated crowd has gone down a lot in quality recently

>> No.18737849

>>18737821
I've seen those too. They are more akin to a clique than a movement, sadly. And how did they manage gather so many schizophrenic women in one place? Anyway post some of those substacks you liked if you have any favorites.

>> No.18737868

>>18736358
>Anyone else that tackles the same sort of futuristic ideas?
definitely not the same way he does.

>> No.18737915

>>18737849
Kaliacc has always been a clique and dresden (the main person behind miya/bpd_god) has been gathering women like that together since the pro-anorexia discord shilling shit about a year ago. Here's the substack masterlist

https://goldenlight.substack.com/p/substack-party
with these being somewhat interesting (to me anyways)

https://cashedcobrazhousewriter.substack.com/
https://deadangelicismtheory2300.substack.com/
A lot of this stuff isn't that interesting for anybody not deep within the clique/circle, it's just literal underage shitposts or NYC artfag/red scare edgy alt commie adjacent contingent shit.

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"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:

‘God?’

‘Yeah.’

‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’

He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:

‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’

‘So you snuffed him?’

‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’

I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:

There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’

‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’

‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’

‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’

‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.

I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:

‘So God’s dead?’

‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’

The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:

‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’

I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:

‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.

In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."

>> No.18738005

>>18736358
Thread music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRE67S7Ydg

>> No.18738016

>>18738005
CCRU were big on jungle and d&b tunes, I wonder if they ever got into grime

>> No.18738022

>>18738005
>>18738016
How old are you accfag?

>> No.18738029

casual reminder that CCRU=nick land. the rest are fuckin trash

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>>18737804
https://archive.is/ATJyF
>Like CCRU prose, the conferences could be challenging for non-initiates. Virtual Futures 96 was advertised as “an anti-disciplinary event” and “a conference in the post-humanities”. One session involved Nick Land “lying on the ground, croaking into a mic”, recalls Robin Mackay, while Mackay played jungle records in the background. “Some people were really appalled by it. They wanted a standard talk. One person in the audience stood up, and said, ‘Some of us are still Marxists, you know.’ And walked out.”

>> No.18738048

>>18738029
Fisher had some alright insights into society and his writing influenced modern aesthetics like vaporwave and liminal spaces, but his writing was totally normie tier

>> No.18738062

>>18738029
casual reminder accfag is trash. his trip is only for spamming trash.

>> No.18738177

>>18738062
He doesn't post here anymore

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>>18738177
>accfag's not here man

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>>18736903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HHfetsVwlU

>> No.18739532

>>18736358
By reading.

>> No.18739559

>>18736358
Gotta have immense respect for this guy. He managed to take marxist and postmodernist theory so far that he ended up at internet racism and allying with throne and alter larping theocracy supporters.

>> No.18739637

What would Aristotle legacy be if he had Twitter

>> No.18739839

>>18739559
That isn't really a good thing but I guess it's better than being just another mindless cuckhold woketard.

>> No.18739845

>>18739559
What did he do in the realm of internet racism?

>> No.18739867

>>18739845
He was on of the founders of Neoreaction and used to talk about Race and IQ a lot.

>> No.18739883

>>18739867
Yeah now that I think about it I think the first time I heard of Land and "the dark enlightenment" and "accelerationism" was during the 2016 elections. Pretty weird. Is he now just no longer active?

>> No.18739903

>>18736358
Read German Idealism, Marxism, Structuralism.

>> No.18739919

>>18739883
He's on twitter but not really relevant anymore, other people have stepped up to continuing his legacy however.

>> No.18739921

>>18739883
>during the 2016 elections
Neoreaction started in like 2013 or so and Moldbug's work goes back to 2008 I think. They actually tended to be a bit reserved about Trump unlike the alt-right and they warmed up to him much later.

>Is he now just no longer active?
Neoreaction died a quiet death and Land didn't want anything to do with people like Richard Spencer so he moved on back to accelerationism. Recently he left twitter for urbit I believe.

>> No.18739927

Fookin flesh monad innit

>> No.18739949

>>18739921
>Recently he left twitter for urbit I believe
God you're a dumb nigger

>> No.18739963

>>18739921
Neoreaction/dark enlightenment was only worthwhile in a literary sense as a continuation of Lovecraftian and dystopian motifs found in his writings previously (coincidentally Moldbug also used Lovecraft imagery which is probably how Land was drawn to him in the first place), as an actual political ideology of any kind it's useless.

>> No.18739985

>>18739963
>as an actual political ideology of any kind it's useless.
One of its core ideas is political passivism so naturally. It was always basically just right wing postmodernism, an analysis of power rather than an attempt to change it.

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>>18737915
lol
https://deadangelicismtheory2300.substack.com/p/chinese-influencers-pretending-to

>> No.18740635

>>18738196
kek. He is out of control.

>> No.18741670

bump
hate how brainlets always focus in 1 phase of nick land and forget everything else

>> No.18741789

A guy I know once described some shithole apartment he lived in London where one of his roommates would do enormous amounts of cocaine and pills and spend all day perfecting a single bar of some trance track he was making

Whenever I think of Nick Land I feel like he could easily have been that guy in another life

>> No.18741838

>>18741670
Yeah the Gender Accelerationist Blackpaper is his best work by far.

>> No.18741914

>>18737915
What exactly is this? Is it like a Tumblr for schizos?

>> No.18741922

>>18740635
I think there is something very fitting about the fact that there is a schizo whi despise Nick Land and thinks that every single post about him in /lit/ is made by one person. In his mind accfag is like some personification of a decentralized intelligence

>> No.18742201

>>18741914
You can find some good ones there, here's my selection.

https://goldenlight.substack.com/
https://beautifulkvadra.substack.com/
https://realitygamer.substack.com/
https://realthomas777.substack.com/
https://blackwind.substack.com/
https://daseinhahaha.substack.com/
https://worm.substack.com/

>> No.18743606

>>18741914
Substack is the new revolution in blogging, it's (supposedly) mostly uncensored and a lot of modern thinkers, especially rw-adjacent and from other unsavory spheres of thought, are using it. It can be seen as a throwback to the old blogosphere era.

>> No.18743643

>>18741922
I think there is something very fitting about the fact that accfag pays bitcoin to samefag.

>> No.18743656

>>18743643
Not even him but I will keep bumping this thread just to keep you mad.

>> No.18743684

>>18743656
>Not even him
What you don't identify with your trip?
Samefag all you want won't change the fact that no one posts about Land except you.

>> No.18743724

>>18741922
Who is accfag anyways? I only know of THE acfag from /v/