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18645415 No.18645415 [Reply] [Original]

Was anyone else into Schopenhauer before Nietzsche and then reject Schopenhauer for Nietzsche but then eventually go back to agreeing more with Schopenhauer?

>> No.18645432
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>>18645415
Some probably, yeah. What do you think, op?

>> No.18645533

This but never get past nietzsche

>> No.18645687

>>18645415
I read and agreed with Schopenhauer, then read Nietzsche and agreed with many of his insights while still siding with Schopenhauer. Their philosophies are opposites in many ways but in another sense they're complementary, the difference being whether you embrace the Will or not despite suffering.

>> No.18645707

Schopenhauer is my favorite philosopher because he approves of suicide. I realize this is all I wanted from philosophy, a big brained thinker telling me that killing myself is the right thing to do

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>>18645707
>Schopenhauer is my favorite philosopher because he approves of suicide.
u wot m8

>> No.18645798

>>18645781
There's a quote where he says that it is an absurd demand that one who is tired of living should stay alive in order to be of service to his society

>> No.18645879

>>18645798
Right, but that still doesn't mean he approves of suicide. Just that that reasoning is meaningless.

>> No.18645885

>>18645879
Enough of a green light for me!

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>>18645415
No, that would be idiotic.

>> No.18646046

>>18645904
Step on me dingus, butters!

>> No.18646180

>>18645415
I was, yes.

>>18645687
this anon is right. I feel though like nietzsche seems sometimes like petulant child justifying his ill deeds to himself. His writing is also a pale imitation of schopenhauer’s.

>> No.18646330

>>18645707
In the end, isn't this what we all want from philosophy?

>> No.18646422

>>18646180
>I feel though like nietzsche seems sometimes like petulant child justifying his ill deeds to himself
What's funny is that Nietzsche liked to psychologize philosophers so it's natural to do it to him too. His views are basically what happens when you take a natural contrarian who is also weak of constitution and suffered his whole life, and teach him philosophy. He's like the Will to Life itself reacting to Schopenhauer and life denying viewpoints trying to justify itself, which of course it would do.

>> No.18646531

>>18645415
Schopenhauer is the more disciplined and systematic thinker. In Isiah Berlin's parlance, he was a "hedgehog." He fixed on one great idea and then dedicated himself to expounding every last detail and intricate connection in his cathedral of an idea.

Nietzche, however, was more of a "fox" darting from one insight to the next, and losing his mind before he could complete his one attempt at a systematization of his thought (The Will to Power.) Nietzche is above all a literary genius, one of the most enigmatic and charismatic writers in the entire western philosophical cannon. However to grasp his thought one has to retrace each of his steps individually. You cannot, unlike Schopenhauer, trace it all back to one single root (Will, in this case).

Both were extraordinary writers, but Nietzche is in a class of his own and easily in my estimation one of the greatest writers, in any medium, of all time.

>> No.18647571

Schop -> Nietzsche -> Guenon -> Evola
was my path