/lit/ - Literature

fine, then I’ll read it

>>18600528
stfu tripfag

>>18600509
Alright lets see your working

>>18600509
Which one of you has been fucking my melons?

I feel BM is more original in prose and direction

>>18600554
Haha no

It really is. I honestly don't get the love for BM, here, but I guess most of the people posting are teenaged boys.

They're about on a level, I just like westerns and violence more tho

>>18600922
Yes. Everybody liking a board favourite must be teenager. How did you become so smart?

Don't even try to talk me down from the The Crossing balcony I'm standing on. I won't budge.

>>18600922
Suttree is more for teenage boys than BM. Suttree acts like a teenage boy. Even though the Kid is one.

what do you lads think of Outer Dark

>>18601043
He was still refining his signature style in it, but ngl I felt feverish reading the last 100-120 pages. Few books had that effect on me. I can see its stakes rising some time in the future once CM is dead.

>>18601070
>I can see its stakes rising some time in the future once CM is dead.
I agree. I don't know why but I've always had the feeling that McCarthy will be one of those authors who won't be remembered by the work that was most praised during his lifetime.

>>18601119
>who won't be remembered by the work that was most praised during his lifetime.
Interesting. Imo the statement might hold true for Nfcom, The Road and Atph but BM seems too entwined with canonical discussions to lose its place. Besides, in many ways Outer dark is a blueprint for Blood meridian.

>scene in blood meridian where Glanton shoots the lone surviving silent Mexican women of the Apache raid in the head to scalp her

Yeah we fucking get it dude, there was a lot of senseless violence in the Old West. Fuck’s sake. Huge cringe moment that almost made me throw the book in the dump. The description and portrayal of violence in the book was borderline pornographic and was embellished to the point of absurdity.

6/10 interesting prose but highly overrated book

>>18601043
It's okay

>>18601151
post it i dont remember that

>>18601151
>that normalfag reaction image
You are still to be initiated in our ways...

>>18601158
I don’t remember, I think it might have been the first scalping expedition the Kid experienced after being recruited from the Mexican prison. Glanton and company walk into town to find a traumatised Mexican woman who survived the apaches razing her village. Glanton wordlessly walks up to her, presses the gun against her head, and shoots her so that he can scalp her. Yup, that would have totally happened IRL.

Verisimilitude objections aside it could have been an emotionally impactful scene… if every 3 pages weren’t dedicated to some kind of lengthy gratuitous description of violent mutilation, torture, or dismemberment. The book sucks. Starts off incredibly strong with the filibuster into Mexico then gets boring and weirdly puerile as if McCarthy is trying to impress by showing how edgy he can be. “See?! Isn’t that totally fucked up and twisted?!”

>>18601167
Been on 4chaneddit since summer of 2009, kys newfag

>>18601151
Was the violence really "embellished" or detailed? I don't remember being shocked by any of the violent parts. And the old west was not as violent as most people think it was.

>>18601151
>The description and portrayal of violence in the book was borderline pornographic
nah

>>18601186
For sure McCarthy was writing BM with one hand. The Road defied any kind of scientific explanation except for a world of pure torture, predation, and pain. He very clearly enjoys writing about sadism.

>>18601203
huh?

>>18601219
Reddit

>>18601219
Some people can't handle reading about negative things. They're like little children and get upset about it, so they have to make-up ways to impugn the character of the people who write it.

>” Some people can't handle reading about negative things. They're like little children and get upset about it, so they have to make-up ways to impugn the character of the people who write it.”
>*loads hollow point mags in AR 15, posts manifesto, and Google maps nearest pre-school*

>>18600509
They're two completely different books and each great in their own way. I wouldn't knock anybody for supporting either one.

>>18601183
>since summer of 2009
Bullshit.
>reddit spacing
Maybe on reddit, retard.

>>18600509
When it comes to art, there is only personal preference. Objectivity doesn't enter into any judgement. Alright?

>>18601240
what?

McCarthy power rankings:
All the Pretty Horses>Child of God>Blood Meridian>Outer Dark>Suttree>No Country>The Road

That's all I've read so far

>>18601344
He is throwing a tantrum because his view of the world from his basement doesn't coincide with McCarthy's. Even though all the massacres in the book are historically accurate with 15 letters from Glanton existing still detailing their exploits. There is also that memoir from Chamberlain ofc.
He probably looks like pic related

>>18601151
you sound like a homosexual

>>18601364
To add, there are testimonies from mayors and persons who survived the massacres published in papers from mid 1800s. Some are in English as well.

Glanton was only 31 when he died, wtf. I'm 30. Bizarre

>oh look, a Suttree thread
>it is just the same old tired BM thread

>>18601151
The world has always been that violent and still is. You sound like a fucking moron.

>>18601151
Must be low IQ if you can't grasp the devastating philosophical genius of BM.

KYS faggot.

>>18600907
Laura jack me off?

>>18600528
Laura, give me the pussy and i'll give you a beautiful negroid baby

>>18601994
>>18602052
Only if you google my home address and show up in my backyard at night.

>>18602077
Take me to a storage locker at midnight and kick the shit out of me then edge me till 6am and refuse to let me cum. I'll bust many a teary-eyed nut to you.

>>18602088
I’m really into stepping the heel of my stilettos into men’s urethras while they are tied up, under a platform (a hole is cut in the platform for the penis to poke out of) until they ejaculate blood. It’s kind of my thing, aside from the kids books, so be prepared pls

>>18602100
Thank you Mommi, i just need a window to see you while you do it. That's all i need. I just need to see you hurt me while you love me.

Did anyone think the ending to Suttree was a bit too abrupt and uninspired?

>>18602100
Bro i'll let you step on my urethra so much you'll be able to fit the toe of your stiletto in

>>18602214
>>18602170
>>18602100
>>18602088
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>>18602052
This is so fucking based i love this board so much

>>18601788

lol, look at the puppy-reader anon.

>>18601043
I wish Cormac wrote more books that took place in Appalachia.

>>18602826
Gtfo mountain nigger

>>18601788
10/10 bait

>>18601144

The Road is a pretty good book with some really tender moments bro. Does it matter how the end of the world really happened? The sky is ash, most are dead, and the main conflict is do you give in to your conditions or do you carry the flame? Worth a reread imo.>>18601227

The Crossing is his best.

>>18600509
McCarthy is midwit Rupi Kaur.

>>18605936
Very midwit post

>>18606285
Your post is, yes.

>>18601043
Excellent. Maybe my third favorite behind Suttree and BM

>>18606432
Lmao! proved it. With your complete lack of reading comprehension.

>>18601151
correct

let the basedboy zoomers seethe

>>18606801
>that much redditspacing
Only one zoomer here, dumbass. (You)

>>18600922
>t. homosexual college sophomore

>>18602181
yeah, also kind of a giant cliche with guy hops on a bus and leaves town for good. I hope that's how you use spoiler tags
I love Suttree so much. The part where he gets smashed in the head with a floor buffer made me feel sicker and more in pain than any of the violence in BM. The midnight melon mounter is the funniest thing I've ever read in a book. Suttree fucking the mussel guy's 16 year old daughter was tender and beautiful and hot. Harrogate is the best modern day Sancho Panza
I'd also bet 99% of people read the following sentence without taking a breath and then are left dumbfounded about how great it is:
>Dear friend now in the dusty clockless hours of the town when the streets lie black and steaming in the wake of the watertrucks and now when the drunk and the homeless have washed up in the lee of walls in alleys or abandoned lots and cats go forth highshouldered and lean in the grim perimeters about, now in these sootblacked brick or cobbled corridors where lightwire shadows make a gothic harp of cellar doors no soul shall walk save you.

>>18607683
Our protagonist's past is his antagonist, we know little of that past and largely only see the effects it has on him, the only sensible conclusion is an unknown future, anything else would make no sense thematically. While that ending can be a cliche, he did not use it in the cliche fashion, everything before sets it up wonderfully.

>>18607761
Agreed. I loved the ending.

>>18607761
>>18607862
you're both right, and I appreciate your responses. It's just that some of his other books like Outer Dark/BM have incredibly surprising endings that fit the story but that you didn't anticipate, whereas in Suttree I was kind of expecting the ending the whole time (or for him to die alone on his boat sick or having been murdered)

>>18608135
That ending would turn the book into trite moralizing, really not McCarthy's style and would have been far more cliche
>don't do this unless you want to end up like ol Suttree!