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"it's 4pm, time to talk about the future of the left!"
"yes honey"

>> No.18571650

>>18571625
Of all the people, he will be the gladest when he finally gets to die

>> No.18571661

Her voice is so deep, is it female?

>> No.18571677

>>18571625
Kek

>> No.18571703

>>18571625
Top kek

>> No.18571707

Give the man some fucking peace. He's so old now.

>> No.18571718

>>18571707
Nigga defended Pol Pot. Spending his dying days having harpy trooners ask him about the future of intersectionality in Dunkin Donuts feels fitting.

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>>18571625

>> No.18571728
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Reminder he was filtered by Foucault.

>> No.18571734

>>18571728
Really not sure how anyone could present it that way without being disingenuous but ok

>> No.18571770

The fact that he's 92 and showing up for an online dick flattening is pretty based though even if some leftists think he's gone soft in his old age.

>> No.18571776
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>>18571770
>dick flattening
lmao this is the first I've heard of this.

>> No.18571792

>>18571776
NEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAG NEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAG NEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAGNEWFAG

>> No.18571805

>>18571625
Straight up taken from the redscare subreddit

>> No.18571811

>>18571625
Why can't they just leave him alone. :(

>> No.18571855

>>18571811
You gotta learn from your elders. I'm listening now and he's saying, "yeah, y'know, people are more civilized these days, back in the 30s, we had real fascism" not like this clown car stuff today.

Everyone on all sides of the political spectrum: hmm checks out

https://youtu.be/wvwbKfS44Fo

>> No.18571878

>>18571792
...I've been on 4chan for 15 years

>> No.18571887

>>18571878
Why?

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>>18571887
Not intentionally. It'll happen to you too.

>> No.18571948

>>18571878
>tfw been on 4chan 10 years
>since I was a HS freshman
>tfw was considered a newfag then
>there are kiddies who've just gotten here
>tfw realize that I'm an oldfag now for the first time even though I don't feel like it

Is this what it feels like to get old? Will I just continue feeling like a young man and then one day just wake up and realize that my hair has greyed, my vision is lost, my face is wrinkled and I have grandchildren even though I feel like a child myself? Fuck, that's depressing

>> No.18571953

Contrapoints a cute.

>> No.18571978

>future of the left

>> No.18572008

>>18571948
>im an oldfag now
No faggot you never will be. Just because there are newerfags doesnt make you any less of a newfag, newfag.

>> No.18572015

>>18571728
and fuckhole was filtered by AIDs

>> No.18572016

why doesn't the right have the equivalent of breadtube?

>> No.18572020

>>18571948
STILL NOT AN OLD FAG NEW NIGGER

>> No.18572024

>>18572008
This

>> No.18572026

>>18571625
>man in a dress
>walking skeleton
>future of the left
sounds about right

>> No.18572034

>>18572016
Most right wing channels will be banned by youtube so they move to bitchute and remain pretty obsucre. There's a couple like Morgoths Reivew that are pretty good but it's never gonna make it to the same level as breadtube shit. Youtube don't want their algorithm promoting 'hateful' content so you're 10x more likely to be reccomended PhilosophyTube or Contrapoints.

>> No.18572054

>>18572034
but the latter are bigger threats to Capitalism than the right, why are they tolerated?

>> No.18572077

>>18572054
They're no threat at all. If anything they're a tool of capitalism because they encourage impassivity. Just look at that guy QuintonReviews who made a 5 hour iCarly video.

>> No.18572107
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>>18572016
>>18572034
There's an enormous amount of right wing media. My current list has

>16 book publishers
>4 traditional journalism sites
>18 editorial & analysis sites
>45 podcasts and streams

And a lot of media that doesn't fit in these categories. And I know my list isn't nearly complete because I hear about new shit all the time.

If you want something roughly parallel to OP try Modern Politics
https://odysee.com/@modernpolitics:0

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>>18572054
>threats to Capitalism
1. Humans are groupish.
2. Lefties disintegrate groups by promoting cosmopolitic/genderless/etc. individualism.
3. Individuals cannot do shit. "Men were created equal" merely means "You are one particle among the millions absolutely identical to you (i.e. completely replaceable), subjected to Big Brother"
4. ?????
5, Tyranny.

>> No.18572116

>>18572054
The activist left is only mobilized to attack the proletarian right. Never capitalism.

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>>18572107
Is there a pastebin of your list?

>> No.18572131

>>18572054
The liberal left have been a prominent part of politics for over 60 years now, and we've only seen Capitalism's increasing triumph and domination. Through providing diluted critique, they serve as its greatest defenders.

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>>18572054
There is tons of mediocre conservative content on YouTube like Tim Pool and Steven Crowder that can tell you all about why capitalism is great, and the algorithms probably favor them, but the psycho Nazi ZOG Fighter stuff might as well be like ISIS material at this point. They did their job at helping get Trump elected maybe but it's time for them to go back into their hole now. Either way just a few years ago it was pretty hard not to go on YouTube and be greeted by videos about how women ruin civilization or Jews are trying to replace whites with low-IQ immigrants. As long as these companies could get away with hosting such pages they would've, because such corporations rely on having as many people as possible engaged for as long as possible.

Facebook also got into hot water over this, because Mark Zuckerberg wants everyone in the world to use Facebook so their data can be scraped like a Waffle House fry cook and then bundled and sold to advertisers. Their business is spying / manipulation and trying to drive "engagement" even if that means provoking bad feelings in the users, which is why people have reported feeling worse while using Facebook.

Jaron Lanier has also written some interesting books about why these tech companies are destroying the world. Like, their businesses have destroyed a lot of middle-class jobs by offering the same services, formerly provided by other companies which employed more people, for free; and they take a cut from selling your information (which you provide for free to access those services) to providers of others goods and services who want to advertise to you. Facebook is like a middleman in a sense with a near-monopolistic position and their trade is data. And they don't employ many people relative to the value they've sucked up from other sectors which they've "disrupted," which is why Zuckeberg is worth $120 billion.

So society is getting worse and people are miserable, and social conflicts are intensifying. And then Facebook makes money from driving engagement. Far-right stuff is easily compatible with this (probably even more compatible than other ideologies) because it tends to be highly emotional in content. Nationalism, hatred, fear, disgust. It's like pornography. People get addicted to it and Facebook was the dope dealer. It's like blowback or chickens coming home to roost and it threatened their whole business. Now they're banning white supremacists, but they are probably as guilty as anyone in creating the problem. Does anyone still use it?

>> No.18572139

>>18572133
>why capitalism is great
"everything of value has been built in Hell"
https://web.archive.org/web/20200805194047/http://www.xenosystems.net/hell-baked/

>> No.18572140

>>18572123
Yes.

>> No.18572143

>>18572140
Can you post it?

>> No.18572147

>>18571661
it's a man, baby

>> No.18572148

>>18572143
No.

Tell me what other podcasts you like, or generally what format you prefer, and I'll recommend a couple things.

>> No.18572156

>>18571718
>Nigga defended Pol Pot
so did the US government, except chomsky defended khmer rouge before confirmation of the atrocities, the US gov did it after

>> No.18572162

>>18572016
Nigga they get banned for wrongthink all the fucking time
Keith has still got his channel though, and he's great

>> No.18572166

>>18572133
>Jaron Lanier has also written some interesting books about why these tech companies are destroying the world. Like, their businesses have destroyed a lot of middle-class jobs by offering the same services, formerly provided by other companies which employed more people, for free; and they take a cut from selling your information (which you provide for free to access those services) to providers of others goods and services who want to advertise to you. Facebook is like a middleman in a sense with a near-monopolistic position and their trade is data. And they don't employ many people relative to the value they've sucked up from other sectors which they've "disrupted," which is why Zuckeberg is worth $120 billion.

This is basic bitch stuff but more people need to be saying it. So good on him for that.

>the psycho Nazi ZOG Fighter stuff
I take one look at that decadent mutant you posted and I know who my money's on for Most Likely to Defeat Capitalism.

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>>18572116
The proletariat right racked up some major victories like Trump's election and Brexit. The latter will be more long-lasting. It killed the British economy, but that's the price of right-wing nationalism. You don't get anything in this world for free.

>> No.18572176

>>18572148
Don't really listen to a lot of podcasts but have been looking for some to listen to while working, what do you reccomend? The most right wing content I get is from reading old books at the moment.

>> No.18572179

>>18572166
That's Jaron Lanier lol

>> No.18572192

>>18572176
Joel Davis is a decent youtuber.

>> No.18572203

>>18572016
The fuck are you talking about?
There are plenty of right wing youtubers, they all suck just as bad as the breadtubers though.
People like crowder, Rubin, Shapiro, Peterson, and so on.

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>>18572166
Also he's not anti-capitalist. He's a little-l libertarian type I think. Also I feel the ZOG Fighters are finished. It's Tim Pool and Crowder from here on out for awhile complaining about how Critical Race Theory is bad because it's actually Marxist Racist Theory that denies the value of individual liberty and free market economics. The slimy nerds who grabbed onto the much larger right's tail were opportunists and they paid the price for that -- and there's a high price indeed when your choice of ally is motivated principally out of (a) ball of rage cultural resentments (b) love for the state of Israel and (c) anti-Islamic sentiment.

To loop it around back to Chomsky though, it's not the 1930s. Listening to this thing, back then, fascism was an Actual Threat. And the Nazi state had significant control over big business in America. There were very close economic ties between them. So his advice to Natalie was not to hype the fascist danger up too much. You couldn't even mention the word "capitalism" in the context of a problem in the 1960s, really. That was difficult. Let alone "socialism" as a solution, whatever that means. That was considered pretty extreme. The left is in a better position nowadays. At least that's Chomsky's view.

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>>18572176
You might prefer something long-form-news oriented then. I recommend FTN. It's about three hours every Sunday. Twice a week if you pay for it. But no need to if you're just looking to fill work hours for a few weeks. The archives go back about five years.

https://therightstuff.biz/category/ftn/

>>18572173
Both were symbolic victories. Both changed literally nothing about the trajectory of modern capitalism. Those were the last two big attempts to use the ballot box to change things for the working class, and both proved that voting does nothing.

A statement I'm sure you'd agree with in other contexts. Just not when you're trying to blame some proles the oligarchs told you to despise.

>>18572179
Yes I understood that.

>Also I feel the ZOG Fighters are finished. It's Tim Pool and Crowder from here on out
That you know about.
Here. Listen to this if you're interested in counter narratives in podcast format. You'll find the nationalist right agrees with you for the most part.

https://files.catbox.moe/zg3qvh.mp3
(Strike and Mike episode 167: The CRT Gig Economy)

>> No.18572235

>>18572148
you either have or not. post or stfu.

>> No.18572247

>>18572203
liberals

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>>18571661
>Her

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>>18572204
>>18572229
I should at that Strike and Mike is a long-form podcast so if you want to hear the part where they discuss Crowder et al's toothless dialectic on CRT, skip to 1:30.

>>18572235
lol

>> No.18572280

>>18572156
Pol Pot genocided the Cambodian version of troon journos and queers in academia. He was a good man.

>> No.18572291

>>18572249
The funny thing is Chomsky would have never taken such a person seriously up until 2015 or so.

>> No.18572293

COLIN IS A PUSSY
A VERY PRETTY PUSSYCAT

>> No.18572308

Why are breadtubers either deranged soibois or disgusting troons?
Working class lads like myself are just disgusted by those degenerate freaks

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>>18572308
>Why are breadtubers either deranged soibois or disgusting troons?

>> No.18572336

>>18571948
have a (you)

>> No.18572353

>>18572016
We don't have an equivalent, ours are better in every regard.
Keith Woods, MacIntyre, Morgoth, Dutton, Alt Hype, Distributist, Semiogogue etc etc etc

>> No.18572382

>>18572034
>Most right wing channels will be banned by youtube
Are you being facetious or delusional?

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Repostable.

>>18572382
If you don't know about the mass-deplatforming of the right you aren't even remotely informed about modern politics.

>> No.18572414

>>18572315
Those with status and influence give about as much of a shit as the politicians. It is unfortunate that worthy people aren't building a place all of their own. The future of America will have three cultures: Mormons, Amish, and Commies. Probably going to pretend to be Mormon when I move out to Montana.

>> No.18572437

>>18572249
Why the long face?

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>>18572008
>tfw you just missed out on the crucial period of 2003-2005 to become an oldfag

>> No.18572451

>>18571718
This is a myth

>> No.18572455

>>18572203
Unironcally, Peterson is not right wing.
Ben Shapiro, Crowder and Rubin are still niggerlovers.
If you are interested in actual, European Nationalist content, check out Asha Logos

>> No.18572477

>>18572166
>Most Likely to Defeat Capitalism
There is no defeat coming. Back to your cubicle.

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>>18571661

>> No.18572483

>>18572414
>Probably going to pretend to be Mormon when I move out to Montana.
So you can get road hauled by your protestant neighbors?

>> No.18572488

>>18572147
>>18572249
Haha damn I had no idea until she spoke.

>> No.18572496

>>18572054
>but the latter are bigger threats to Capitalism than the right
They’re bigger threats to capitalism than neocons, that’s true but only because neocons could not possibly be more capitalist and judeophilic. If you think they pose any challenge to capitalism in any meaningful way (or even if you think that they sincerely oppose it) you are mentally retarded

>> No.18572500

>>18572488
>she
go back, wasted based dubs

>> No.18572503

>>18571625
Do you think it's possible for me to ask for free books from Noam cause he's got a shitton of them and he won't need them cause he's going to die soon enough.

>> No.18572505

>>18571625
>comments disabled
Why are they so afraid of people discussing their ideas.

>> No.18572506

>>18572503
Do it. He WILL respond to your email request.

>> No.18572509

>>18571661
She was born with a penis.

>> No.18572514

>>18572506
Wait, really? How does he have the time?

>> No.18572519

>>18572506
"Hey old boomer, email me your ebooks before you die, faggot."

>> No.18572521

>>18572514
At his age there's not a lot to do other than watch the clock tick away his time.

>> No.18572522

>>18572505
There's a lot of fake news floating around and most people are stupid and will believe fake news. You have to limit discussions to credible people.

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>>18572522

>> No.18572530

>>18572521
Now I feel mean. What can I talk with him about to butter him up, or out of genuine interest.

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>>18571878

>mfw you made me realize kids who were 4 when I started browsing are 18 this year

>> No.18572543

>>18572526
You can only respond with mocking gifs because it's the truth; 99% of the population are sheep and will believe whatever propaganda they're exposed to a lot. That's why we need to make sure that they're fed the right propaganda.

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>>18572543

>> No.18572546

why does he do this to himself? and what makes these college students think he's got anything new or worthwhile to say?
>vote blue no matter who
>activism will change them I promise you bro
thanks a lot mr. chomsky for spending your last moments telling us some bullshit

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>>18572538

>> No.18572556

>>18572522
>People are too stupid.
Honestly, it's insulting. They assume everyone is a grown child that can't wipe their own ass and yet they want us to live in a democracy. I don't see the logic in this at all.

They're also some of the most racist motherfuckers on earth despite all the "woke" shit. They assume you're a dumb nigger that can't help themselves if you're black.

They're elitists through and through.

>> No.18572559

>>18572546
For the last twenty five years he told us Israel is the puppet of the United States, so it's not like he waited until now.

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>>18572514
Who knows?

>> No.18572988

>>18572567
>I always ended up in a ditch or a lake
god I wish that were me

>> No.18573011

>>18571625
Lmao what a fag, a jew passing on the torch to a tranny ahahah the absolute state of the left

>> No.18573025

>>18571878
>>18572008
>>18572020
>>18572024
>>18572444
HHAAHAHAHHAHA AND HERE I WAS THINKING THAT COULD CALL NEWFAGS, NEWFAGS AFTER LURKING ON THIS SHITEHOLE FOR 7 YEARS

Fucking oldfag are animals

>> No.18573047

>>18572133
>Tim Pool
>conservative

Oof.

>> No.18573058

>>18572353
CT was pretty good too, but he's been silenced a lot
I don't agree with his american view of fascism as a European, but he's very well read and pleasant to listen to regardless

>> No.18573061

>>18572249
He was a good looking twink when he was younger

https://youtu.be/6Ue-IAsV7wQ

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>>18571625
>“There are few genuine conservatives within the U.S. political system, and it is a sign of the intellectual corruption of the age that the honorable term 'conservatism' can be appropriated to disguise the advocacy of a powerful, lawless, aggressive and violent state, a welfare state for the rich dedicated to a lunatic form of Keynesian economic intervention that enhances state and private power while mortgaging the country's future.”

what the fuck did he mean by this?

>> No.18573316

>>18573074
conservatives sold themselves to neoliberalism and so are now meaningless

>> No.18573337

>>18571625
Burgers never cease from making me KEK

>> No.18573503

>>18572054
>muh capitalism
Tilting at windmills

>> No.18573616

>>18572567
He should stop with all that crap and just enjoy what rests of his life with his family.

>> No.18573633

>>18572054
Why do people hate capitalism

>> No.18573652

>>18573633
>>18572139

>> No.18573658

>>18573633
working sucks

>> No.18573659

>>18573652
Give me a summary

>> No.18573668

>>18571718
no way. can you link a video or something? theres no fucking way anyone defended pol pot

>> No.18573672

>>18573658
Work only sucks because of the vanities associated with it. If you don't have high expectations, and are frugal, it doesn't suck that much.

>> No.18573675

>>18572139
>It is only due to a predominance of influences that are not only entirely morally indifferent, but indeed — from a human perspective — indescribably cruel, that nature has been capable of constructive action. Specifically, it is solely by way of the relentless, brutal culling of populations that any complex or adaptive traits have been sieved — with torturous inefficiency — from the chaos of natural existence. All health, beauty, intelligence, and social grace has been teased from a vast butcher’s yard of unbounded carnage, requiring incalculable eons of massacre to draw forth even the subtlest of advantages. This is not only a matter of the bloody grinding mills of selection, either, but also of the innumerable mutational abominations thrown up by the madness of chance, as it pursues its directionless path to some negligible preservable trait, and then — still further — of the unavowable horrors that ‘fitness’ (or sheer survival) itself predominantly entails. We are a minuscule sample of agonized matter, comprising genetic survival monsters, fished from a cosmic ocean of vile mutants, by a pitiless killing machine of infinite appetite. (This is still, perhaps, to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story, but it should suffice for our purposes here.)

I need a cigarette.

>> No.18573678

>>18573658
It's hard to live without work

>> No.18573682

>>18573672
I don't like being told what to do.

>> No.18573684

>>18573678
Yes.

>> No.18573686

>>18572054
leftists work in support of capitalism. aren't the people in OP's video telling everyone to vote for the Democrats?

>>18573672
what a cuck

>> No.18573703

>>18573668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IUU59B6lw

>> No.18573707

>>18573678
"In the yellow sands and burnt by the sun, he doubtless peereth thirstily at the isles rich in fountains, where life reposeth under shady trees.
But his thirst doth not persuade him to become like those comfortable ones: for where there are oases, there are also idols.
Hungry, fierce, lonesome, God-forsaken: so doth the lion will wish itself.
Free from the happiness of slaves, redeemed from Deities and adorations, fearless and fear-inspiring, grand and lonesome: so is the will of the conscientious.
In the wilderness have ever dwelt the conscientious, the free spirits, as lords of the wilderness; but in the cities dwell the well-foddered, famous wise ones—the draught-beasts.
For, always, do they draw, as asses—the people’s carts!"

>> No.18573709

>>18573682
Carpe Diem
>>18573686
COOMSUMER detected.

>> No.18573720

>>18573686
>vote for the Democrats?
That's the most chad thing you could ever do. Revolutionists are retarded.
>Hey bro things are bad, but it would great if we just destroy all the progress with have now - that would totally make everything better
Fucking retard tier shit bro

>> No.18573734

>>18573703
thanks. will watch!

>> No.18573930

>>18573720
>revolutionists
you sound like a political compass redditor and you should go back

>> No.18573944

>>18573074
Hard to read?

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>>18573930
How do you know about such a board without ever going there, redditor?