/lit/ - Literature

>>18541572
First love is first love, does not matter if it happens at 16 or 60.

>>18541572
The Bible, Lolita

>>18541572
You didn't miss out anon it is still out there don't lose hope fren.

>>18541572
It's not a big deal tbqh. You didn't miss much.

>>18541572
It is nothing compared to the love of God. Reach out to Jesus Christ and feel it for yourself.

>>18541572
Hegel.

>>18541572
Teenagers are incapable of love

>>18541572
just get over it and move on. dumb frogposter

>>18541821
>Never able to legally pound prime teenage poon again
Sure you didn't miss out...lol

>>18541572
Growing up in the 90's, even fat, nerdy kids easily got girlfriends.
>Don't blame yourself, dating has got MUCH worse in the last 20+ years.

>>18541572
Faggot shit. The only true experiences of adventure are the ones you experience when you have agency and freedom (and then, the responsibility that comes with it) over yourself. You can't have an adventure proper if your mommy is right there to wipe your muddy boots for you when you climb up a mountain.

The only true love that exists is between adults that share logistical organization of their lives, the experience of true suffering and TRUE pleasure, that can only be brought by yourself, not by your parents or by an external agent providing for you, but by you working for your own good and this of your lover. Only risk and suffering can make the taste of joy sweet. Only the responsibility and venture of adult life can make love, truly be called, love. The shared experience of illness, bills, danger of crime and death, family woes, money, pipes bursting and flat tires and sick dogs and expensive furniture, and overcoming them together, saving pocket money to buy your lover that something, a snack for example, that they love, and they knowing the small atom of sacrifice in your mundane self-satisfaction for their own, that right there is love.

>>18542208
shoo shoo demoralizer

>>18541572
You know what changes the past? Dwelling on it. You're almost there, keep at it! Or read some Buddhist shit and move on.

>>18542208
It is not that great, anon. I did it back in the day. Had better times masturbating.

>>18541572
become a narcissist and only love yourself

Whatever by Houellebecq

>>18542208
in most countries you can legally bang a 16 year old, is that not enough for you?

nobody post the chart

>>18541572
You know, sex is just a perfectly normal and mundane thing that happens naturally to you if you are at least somewhat normal. If it never happened, you're obviously not normal and shouldn't try to be or judge yourself by normalfag standards. Basically, just be yourself and try to find a qt as weird as you to have sex with. And stop looking back on the past.

>>18542279
What chart

>>18542221
>Only risk and suffering can make the taste of joy sweet.
>true suffering and TRUE pleasure

The dangerous effects of Christianity in the brain.

>>18542237
Then you did it wrong lol

>>18542316
o rly?

>>18541572

>>18542335
I wonder how many people have committed sudoku because of this image?

>>18542329
Not really, anon. Certaint things depend on knowledge. Sex isn't really about looking, you will discover that when you get the chance. It doesn't have much, if anything, to do with porn.

>>18542333
Nice triple three but NIetzsche also believed in the edification of suffering just like that anon.

>>18542355
That was my point, I was replying to >>18542316 who was implying that Christianity was the only way to come to that point of view.

Persuasion

>>18542335
>perfectly groomed cheerleaders and dedicated athletes never had to put any work into anything guise
>no teenager ever had to put work into getting a girlfriend

Self-improvement obsession is a thorough cancer, but so is this princess self-defeatist mentality of "muh biological determinism genetic failure self". You're merely a hysterical social retard, get a grip.

>>18542365
Ah, that makes sense. I thought you were saying that Nietzsche said christianity was dangerous because of that.

>>18542335
defeatist incel trash

>>18542335
What? This is fucking garbage. People could just give up on everything and watch TV and whatever. In the end, people just do whatever the fuck they feel like doing. The main problem is that some shit is harmful, but other than that everything requires effort.

>>18542335
One day in high school a girl I liked was walking with me, holding my hand (she grabbed it, I didn't do anything) and then was hugging me and shit. I was thinking about getting back in time to watch my little pony. Another day, another girl I liked walked up to me and started flirting with me, she practiced ballet and she let me touch her legs when she did stretches, she sucked a lollipop like a dick in front of me, but I was busy fantasizing with anime women that don't exist.
I don't know what's wrong with me.

>>18542444
You just inherently knew 2D >>> 3D

>>18542463
Based. The perfect, platonic form of a woman is a big tiddy anime gf.

>>18542444
lol same, except with me i would imagine doing tricks in tony hawk. i missed out on so many signals because of this

>>18542444
>she practiced ballet and she let me touch her legs when she did stretches, she sucked a lollipop like a dick in front of me

>tfw i was too much of a pussy to ask out the qt autist
>she had interest in the classics from catholic school
>always wore long dresses
>i imagined removing them and engaging in bacchanalian rites
Fuck you for reminding me /lit/. It's been almost a decade and I haven't met even one other woman who incited such lust and intellectual interest in the same way. You have set me to finishing my bottle of wine with your demoralizing posts.

Why should love as a teenager be more important than at any other point? Whats up with the obsession over it?

>>18542741
Hormones. Don't you remember?

>>18542335
>normal people don't put any effort into life
Kek this mindset is why you're losers

>>18542754
How do hormones make it more significant? Especially in hind sight when the hormones have waned

>>18541572
Devote yourself to thought and reading. You'll never be a pussy slayer and, honestly, why would you want to be? Many people say that poetry/philosophy/theology is cope, but this 'cope' is literally superior to the reason for said 'cope'.
I had sex once when I was 19, it was nice, but it completely removed my desire to do it again. It got it out of my system.

>>18542741
it isn't. just losers trying to find reasons to hate themselves and avoid responsibility. self sabotage, basically.

>>18542208
These guys are a bunch of faggots, teenage romance is some of the most intense and awesome. Theres no literature that can bring that back.

>>18542847
I pounded teen poon until I was like 32 when I had a 3-way with two 16 year olds. Yes, it was legal in Canada.

>>18542872
Its not about banging teenagers, its being a teenager having sex and relationships with other teenagers. Retard.

>>18542908
When I was 15 I used to bang my 13 year old girlfriend from like January to July and then her parents moved to another city. Sads.

>>18542872
based
>>18542908
cope

>>18541572
106 billion people have lived on this planet. What the fuck you're talking? Are you kill yourself because some French frog nihilist said that [x] is the most important thing? There are many other real wounds to cry about.

>>18543008
Only one coping here is you. You never got to experience teenage romance. I pity you.

fucking virgin clearly you need to learn from NASKAR https://youtu.be/0tMbFsauLCE

>>18542208
That's ok, there's always illegally

>>18543146
Wow. Extremely based

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>>18541644
>>18541821
>>18542195
>>18542619
>>18542741
>>18542767
>>18542821
adolescence is not only an important period in life, but that it is the only period where one may speak of life in the full sense of the word. The attractile drives are unleashed around the age of thirteen, after which they gradually diminish, or rather they are resolved in models of behaviour which are, after all, only constrained forces. The violence of the initial explosion means that the outcome of the conflict may remain uncertain for years; this is what is called a transitory regime in electrodynamics. But little by little the oscillations become slower, to the point of resolving themselves in mild and melancholic long waves; from this moment on all is decided, and life is nothing more than a preparation for death.

>>18543305
Lmao these niggas btfo

>>18543128
cope

>>18543128
>You never got to experience teenage romance
Projection

>>18542399
>People could just give up on everything and watch TV and whatever
They do, they really do!

>>18543305
yeah this. life after adolescence is just kind of stale

>>18542177
underrated and unchecked...

When I was 13, my father had a date with a woman with a 12 year old, so they made us stay in one house together while my father stayed at the other woman's house.
>12 year old snuck into the kitchen at night
>12 year old took my dad's beer from the fridge
We drank it, I felt her tits, and she jerked me off
Crazy times to be growing up in the 90's... I had a fair amount of sex from 13-16... was a year of no sex after 16 because I was homeless for awhile.

>>18543853
>life after adolescence is just kind of stale
Maybe if you're a disgusting porn addict NEET like you. My life is only getting better

>>18543859
This but my life is only getting worse

>>18543853
>life after adolescence is just kind of stale
for you

>>18541580
gigachad GOD post

>>18541580
I think if you never got any pussy until 60 you'd have become too jaded at that point to appreciate it when it finally happens.

>>18543943
Althusser didn't get pussy until he was 30 and he seems to have been pretty taken in by it. Not a life model, certainly. But at the same time, if a guy that fucked up managed it there's really no good reason most people here couldn't.

Maybe 60s too far but maybe not. Better at some point than never.

>>18543960
>Louis Pierre Althusser was a French Marxist philosopher
fucking lol

>>18543859
I'm 43 and still fired up to do more shit!

>>18543965
Hard to comprehend in the modern era but that used to be a pussy magnet job in Europe. Still kind of us, zizek punches way above his weight.

>>18543960
pussy is pussy. doesn't matter what age you get it, so long as you get it.

>>18541580
This tbqhwy

your diary desu!

>>18541572
My diary desu

>>18542335
Self improoving is normal for an average person

>>18544041
Based middle class baby

>>18542444
You were based, ignore 3DPD whores

I had some romance in my grade school years but it was mostly awkward. Although dating a crush one summer I'll admit was magical for a while but it doesn't really matter these days. I'm 25 with no gf and the worst part is I cannot be fucked to put in the effort anymore. I just get bored with every woman so easily or they stop responding to me first. I think my porn addiction has something to do with it maybe. I don't remember how my porn habits were back then but I'm sure they weren't as bad.

ITT: Cope

>>18544049
loser

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>>18541580
marquez memories of my melancholy

>>18544047
Dating after 2015 became much less serendipitous and a chore...women are much worse now than they used to be

>>>18542444
I always start thinking about anime girls when talking to women
I don't even watch anime anymore.

>>18544057
>women are much worse now than they used to be
this is undoubtedly true but what is the cause exactly? it's actually scary and sad how trash women have become in such a short period of time

>>18543305
>attractile drives

Pure fabrication.

>>18544057
Internet is definitely to convenient too. Makes it hard because nobody wants to talk, just on to the next. I can surely do better! I don't thinks it's all womens fault. Like I said, porn is an issue too. We are controlled. I don't know anymore.

>>18543943
>he doesn't know that losing your virginity at 60 will unleash the second coming of jesus

>2021
>still concerning yourself with w*men
You'd have to be either completely naive or an emotional masochist.

>>18542619
cringe. work on yourself faggot

SEX SEX PUSSY PUSSY I WANT PUSSY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>18544108
This but unironically

>>18544108
Yes

What does pee pee in vagina feel like bros?

>>18544108
basado

>>18544595
like slipping into a hot spa in winter but for your cock

>>18542294
This chart.

>>18542221
I hope that this is pasta and not something you actually wrote yourself because it's extremely cringe, my man.

>>18541580
No, not really. You become incapable of love at a certain point. You can't even become real friends with someone who you didn't know from your teenage years.

This emotional wall is a very real thing. Painful to hit, too. Anywhere between 18 and 26-27ish you just stop genuinely being connected to new people and whatever friendships and romantic relationships you have at this point are the only genuine connections you will have in your entire life.

There is nobody for you beyond this frontier. And there never will be.

>>18544900
Correct, unfortunately.

>>18542177
Yes, yes, God may give enough solace to everyone.
But the love of other people is a different thing entirely. You will never recover from not having it until the Judgement Day when your soul evaporates and joins the Flux. While you're still on this Earth, so is your scar. There's no relief.

>>18544900
Then it's already to late for me.

Eh, I don't really care though; even as a little boy I never really – felt – that my friends cared for me much. Maybe its just my pathos I suppose.

>>18544869
wtf

>>18542221
You have never known love and are damaged by that to the point where you confuse it with a simple sensual experience.
Sorry for whatever happened.

>>18542771
Good advice, but impossible to follow. Not giving a shit as much as you do is a rare gift, anon.

>>18544922
Yeah, it's specifically designed to cause pain, I know.

>>18541572
Fowles, The Collector

>>18543857
god I wish that was me

>>18544900
this is just a load of projection. not everyone is a soulless autist like you.

>>18545209
cope

>>18544055
Is this book any good? I didn't like 100 Years Of Solitude

>>18543305
Load of bullshit. Its a retarded time in life and only losers romanticize it to this extent

>>18545209
Cope, stop telling they are projecting this. Its hilariously obvious that you missed out on your teen years and we didnt. Fucking sad.

>>18541572
Not necessarily about losing out on teenage love, but if you want to read about something similar in theme, read the short story The Kiss by Chekhov. Really captures the feeling of being lonely and feeling that love isn't meant for you, but suddenly getting your hopes up that maybe it IS, only to get humbled by the cold reality.
http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/Kiss.shtml

>>18545963
cope

Sure. It’s been hopeless for a long time, from the very beginning. You will never represent, Raphael, a young girl’s erotic dream. You have to resign yourself to the inevitable; such things are not for you. It’s already too late, in any case. The sexual failure you’ve known since your adolescence, Raphael, the frustration that has followed you since the age of thirteen, will leave their indelible mark. Even supposing that you might have women in the future - which in all frankness I doubt - this will not be enough; nothing will ever be enough. You will always be an orphan to those adolescent loves you never knew. In you the wound is already deep; it will get deeper and deeper. An atrocious, unremitting bitterness will end up gripping your heart. For you there will be neither redemption nor deliverance. That’s how it is.

>>18544900
No that’s just the age range where some people become pathologically narcissistic. If what you’re saying was true, you wouldn’t even be able to love your children unless you had them as a teen, which is evidently retarded. Stop projecting

>>18541580
What if my first love was unrequited? Does it still count as first love? I want to believe that my first mutual love will be my “real” first love, but it’s been a decade and I still love the girl I fell for in high school. I just wish I could feel that way about someone new

>>18545963
>we
Fuck off, loser

>>18544900
Anon, most people are perfectly capable of forming friendships and bonds with people into their middle age and thereafter. This one is on you. Maybe you have trust issues or something ,idk.

>>18541572
Steppenwolf, because everyone in this thread is miserable and full of self pity just like Harry Haller. Get a fucking grip, what did you even miss out on? Teenagers don't do anything romantic they just hang out and try to replicate adult behaviours.
The only reason its looked on fondly is because people forgot how horrible being a teenager is, probably because their adulthood become even worse.

My back ruined any hope i had for love, shitty form during deadlifts and a biking accident were the final nails to the coffin
Take good care of your spine anons, shits irreparable
/blogpost

>>18544063
Smart phones. Cultural shift after 2008-ish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFykUltGh_k

I wrote a book in 2013 predicting everything that we're seeing in 2021...

>>18546767
>novel trailer
Nigga what

>>18546767
Kek the first that comes up when I google the book name. You're like a less successful Gardner

>>18542208
>gloating about banging a retarded teenager
Na senpai

>>18546112
>Does it still count as first love?
Very much so. It being unrequited makes it purer in a sense, there's no gain for you in it, but it also makes it much, much smaller than it could have been.
And I'm sorry, but I don't think you'll ever feel for someone else like you've felt for her. To be completely honest I don't think you even love her at this point, you just never found anything to replace her with, but this might just be my projections.

>>18542341
0. They commit sudoku because they're genetic trash. This image might be the final drop in the bucket.

>>18546474
At you have a play about you, Richard III

>>18546850
Actually... I'd say since I released that book in 2013, it was a success. I sold a bunch of copies at bars, but the process helped me to get out of the vicious cycle of just hooking up.
>Stopped doing cocaine
>Exited the party scene
>Had a kid in 2016
>Quit the porn industry
>Re-aligned my life
>Second book finished, just waiting for my hot glue binder to show up
>I'm feeling pumped about the future again at 43, more than a lot of depressed, butthurt /Lit/ posters can say for themselves.
Aimless is exactly the feeling I wanted to capture. Any look at how lost and soulless the people are in 2021, how the childbirth rate has crashed, how overdoses are higher than ever...

We haven't even got to the part where community is going to break down harder than we can imagine:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7980722/covid-loneliness-epidemic-seniors/

>>18546797
It was fun to do! I'm even in it...

>>18546850
Kek, what a faggot

>>18546986
Oh look... we have a nerd who never created, never had fast cars, never fucked hot chicks...

>>18546969
Well I know this post is just a function of your marketing, but I am intrigued. I promised I myself I wouldn't buy any meme books since I got Call of the Crocodile though. Tell me more about the book. Is Dylen a self insert for yourself? Is this like your Confessions? Are your critiques of society based on what you saw in yourself? What lead you change your lifestyle? And what is the main takeaway of the book?

It feels like I lack the life experience needed to understand most books since I have never talked to a female for longer than a few minutes. It's so weird that I'm already 25 and a khv. I would have never thought this would be my future when I was a 10 year old kid.

>>18547035
The Bronte sisters were all a bunch of shut in virgin losers but still produced masterpieces about social dynamics and relationships.

>tfw never had sex with a girl younger than 21
how do i before it's too late?

>>18547035
Don't blame yourself. I'm 43... and when I was in my teens, you couldn't NOT get laid. Even 5'3 fat guys were getting laid at like 15.
>NO SMARTPHONES
Back in like the late 90's all the way to like 2008... women were MUCH different people. The smart phone has completely changed how women's minds operate. Beyond anything people could have predicted.

>>18547055
I know a dude who met an 18 year old on plenty of fish and they spent the whole weekend smashing. She was cute. This guy isn't chad or alpha. It's easy to find mentally damaged girls who are just dying to whore themselves out

>>18547068
Can you elaborate the differences?

>>18542289
But... fornication

>>18547016
Endless pleasure-chasing keeps your conscience at a very low-level, but it feeds your inner beast. There is a concerted effort to keep the minds of people functioning at a consoomer level as much as possible, so they cannot think for themselves and simply continue to behave in predictive ways...

There is so much to expand on here, but basically, all serendipity must be removed from the process of meeting and dating. All interactions between human beings are being increasingly tracked, algorithm'ed, policed, and watched.
>Do you think when you use a dating app are you really getting to chat with real people?
>Why would dating apps and big business want you to find happiness?
Just look at some of the studies coming out, people are having less sex, less babies, and social trust is plummeting. All tied to how we have been raised to "date".

I know I'm very aggressive and psychotic on here, but thank you for taking the time to interact with me like a person. I appreciate you bro.

>>18546073
White Nights, Dostoevsky, also has this kind of vibe.

>"A whole moment of happiness! Is that too little for the whole of a man’s life?"

>>18546145
in fairness, I know people on their late 20s and early 30s who think this way. But from what I've heard from older people who've been through similar periods, it's mistaken. A few bad relationships or shallow friendships can really sour your perception of love and friendship both. Very corny, but it honestly just takes one person to rid you of all that.

>>18547085
Here's just ONE thing...
>be me
>be 1998
>20 years old
>laugh with older friend that I could get dates by telling women to "buy it and be quiet"
>friend says no way
>I go on clubvibes.com local party website
>tell 19 year old girls they should buy me dinner and remain quiet during it so I'm not disturbed by their banter
>literally get a new date every couple of days, get BJs after dinner, sometimes sex, in my $400-a-month apartment while I was making $17 an hour
There are so, so, so many differences it's hard to even begin. Like I wrote above, when I was 20, I made $17 an hour in Vancouver but my rent was only $400 a month for my own place. I got laid like fucking insane. I had a taiwanese girl wait outside my apartment like a stalker just to get dick. It was fucking insane.
>Smart phones have completely and utterly changed society in so many ways it could fill another book to write, and more.(Not for the better, IMO)

>>18546116
t. seething virgin

>>18543305
you could also murder people, which is an equal high

>>18547146
I wouldn’t say say that. Your post is very reasonable

Not a single "Books about missing out on love during your teenage years" itt

>>18547443
No one here reads, or has sex.

It's just self-hating nihilist incels vs deluded moralfag incels.

>>18547278
I was fucking wasted yesterday and dying from the heat, chain-smoking joint after joint being as over-the-top rude and arrogant yesterday in the "where are the maniacs" thread.

I can't stress enough to the young men of today. If you're feeling stressed out about being a virgin or not getting laid... this is not your fault.
>Not your fault
>Not your fault
>Not your fault
When I was 20, I say this over and over, hell, when I was 16.. even the fucking nerdiest fat kid with acne who played goldeneye 4 hours a day after school could get laid. In fact, it would be hard for him to AVOID getting laid because people actually went out a lot more.

>>18547443
Well.. this is about missing out on love in your 20's or 30's:

https://www.amazon.ca/City-Singles-Jason-Bryan-ebook/dp/B00BDYI9D2

I don't know how someone would approach missing love in their teens. That concept is so alien because from my memory, young women were so open, so friendly, and so happy to make out and just be with you as a teenage boy. The well has been poisoned so deeply that I can't even imagine what it must be like for a kid today.

Whats some kino incel lit?

>>18543943
15. I have known a few that never even had a girlfriend until their 40s, they were pretty much identical in behavior to a teenager and went through the same issues and drama. What makes it unique is the lack of knowing how to deal with the emotions, you become overtaken and can not see past them.

>>18546112
Not really, we all go through those and when the love is returned it is a very different and profound thing. You will not view it in the same way once you have the shared experience.

Almost all of us missed out on it in our teenage years and it’s probably a good thing we did. The people who didn’t, didn’t have lasting relationships and were more likely to have miserable ones after. It’s not as innocent as you think. Generally, the closer you are to mature adulthood when you have your first, the better. And the more the first is the only, the better.

>>18547264
I would like to experience this in VR. Although it may be difficult to induce murderous rage towards a virtual entity. It's no fun without malevolence.

>>18544034
>tbqhwy
internal bleeding

>>18547169
This is very true. You don't even need to know them in real life. I speak from experience.

>>18548154
write*, although typing is akin to speaking, I would say

>>18542208
it wasn't even legal

>>18542177
This is the Truth. I'm beginning to notice.

>>18541572
>missing out on love during your teenage years

Why care hough?

My teenage phase was literally the worst. I was an ugly, low-confident depressed/anxious awkward brat with anger issues. I couldn't look to people in the eye and had a horrible self-hygiene problem. Fuck off about "MUH TEENAGE YEARS BRO :(", my teenage/high school years were truly terrible, to an extent that I'm not fully recovered yet. Looking back I'm certainly doing better now on my early 20s. Nostalgia is a bitch.

>>18548037
just shoot a nigger

>>18548330
ok

>>18547924
Absolute cope

Idc I was too busy breaking into places and stealing shit and being a bad ass in general

>>18548615
Based, the rest of these low T reddit fags will seethe, but everyone who knows the passionate insane love that can come with your teen years is better than any other love. So much coping in this thread its incredible.

>>18548626
When I was 15 my 13 year old girlfriend wouldn't suck my dick but she would kiss it repeatedly until I came
>2021
Think back and remember her technique, while primitive and unskilled, was actually very effective

>>18542208
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>>18543305
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>>18544143
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>>18544900

ITT: KHV Porn and Netflix watchers who think value in life is measured on whether or not you cum in a clueless teenager.

>>18541572
Love is a social construct. A meme. It's all fantasy people.

>>18542195
WOMEN are incapable of love. Ftfy

>>18542208
Sure, all those teens that had to drop off their toddlers at the built-in daycare at my high school sure looked REAL happy, lol.

>>18542221
Christianity is a motherfucking death cult

>>18541572
Plan to say you've read it, rather than say you're Reddit.

I fucked a Vegas escort back in April, was my first time having sex, maybe it's because I wore a condom idk but it didn't feel great.

Even after an hour I couldn't get myself to cum. Is it normal for the rest of your body to kinda go numb when you're fucking somebody?

Other than playing with her tits, I couldn't really "feel" anything. It's odd to me.

>>18548965
Are you on anti depressants or something?

>>18548979
Yeah, a cocktail of shit have been for years

>>18541572
I didn't miss out on teenage years of love and I still remember these fondly, but adult love that makes you feel like a kid is great too. I really thought I wouldn't be able to feel excited over seeing a girl I like past 20 but it happened, frens. I think it's just a matter of finding the right connection.

>>18544900
>You can't even become real friends with someone who you didn't know from your teenage years.
My dad met his best friend (and my godfather and designated guardian) when they were both 27 and 28. Most people I know have very close friends they met in their Masters program, the military, mutual friends, etc.
You're a genuine robot if you can't befriend people outside teenage years

>>18548991
Go off your meds nexr time you get an escort

The truth hurts

>>18549272
My dad fucked my ass when I was 12 does that count?

everyone in this thread is a incel except me

>>18549333
Yeah. Congrats

>>18544915
All the healing and love you desire is already within you. The only thing left to do is part the clouds blocking you from seeing the truth clearly. You should look into trauma healing. A program I would recommend is Transformation Mastery

>>18548626
teenage love is overrated. it's nothing but hormones, not actual love.

>>18549615

I'd just like to have a meaningful connection with someone else. I wish I had someone who cared about me, cared about what I did at work today or my dumb hobbies or my dreams for the future or whether I'm a dog or cat person.
I don't care about sex. I'm sure it's nice. It's secondary to what I really want, though.
Not that I've ever come close to having either, of course.

>>18546099
Wow...

>>18543857
y-yeah, based.
>time to kill myself

>>18541572
I used to dwell on this a lot, OP. It feels terrible missing out on something so beautiful (and don't tell me it's not. please, to all of the people who post about how they had a gf in high school and it wasn't that great, please shut up) but it's not constructive to sit around thinking about how much shit sucks. You have to let it go. Just do what you can to improve yourself and try to find someone now. Learn an instrument, work out, get a promotion or a better job. None of that is easy of course but most things worth doing are a challenge. I still haven't found love yet but I'm hopeful that someday I will. I hope you guys all find someone and thank you to all of the anons who tried to comfort us in this thread. Even if you were talking about how young love is overrated, I know you meant well and maybe some of you genuinely feel that way.

>>18542335
I hate this image so much. I was just thinking of it the other day.

>>18541572
HAVE SEX INCEL

>>18549765
It's funny to me that so many of the anti-incel types are hideous transgender folx who have sex with other hideous transgender folx in their little polycules. Not all are trans but they are still very often hideous. They would probably still be incels if they either weren't part of a cult (trans/leftism) or had standards (below 400 pounds).

>>18549733
Do not hurt yourself.
This plane we are on... this reality... it is all fake. There is so much evil just under the surface getting us to pleasure chase and distract us from the truth.
Man... don't be jealous. I suffered greatly in my time... yes, I had more pleasure, but I also had much, much more pain.

Godspeed anon

>>18549759
That was the entire point. Just to make you mad. Rent free.

>>18543305
>>18542335
>>18544869
young women and girls are dumb as a pile of rocks tho and regardless whether you can - if you want to be involved with them you are their exact level of intelligence

>>18549922
Women do not mentally mature past like 15 or 16 anyway. God if anything they mentally regress. The only people that think women are getting smarter as they age are the people who are getting dumber so it appears that way.

>>18549947
i mean i admit i was a loser, they pretty much said that to my face - and i was fine with that - i was their gay friend, except i was straight
and all the guys i knew who had "youthful love" experiences it ended up being total bullshit they regretted and generally didn't even feel good, later got sucked into the schtick and ended up dating other long term normie girls who changed them and molded them into good little goyim
so i regret nothing about my inceldom
>The only people that think women are getting smarter as they age are the people who are getting dumber so it appears that way.
makes sense, since i am actually getting dumber due to never mentally excersizing and intellectually rotting, can feel it even

>>18542177
u can't fuck god tho. what's the point?

Why are men using their ability to access several inches of the inside of a woman's body as an indicator of their value? WHY?

ITT: more virgins than in muslim heaven
more cope than in a hospital's cancer wing

>>18549885
But why would you do this?

>>18550027
shoo demoralizing demon. kill yourself

>>18541580
Thanks anon. Gonna stop reading this thread here now because I know it's just gonna get me upset.

I didn’t get any teenage love because I fucking hated everyone in my High School lol.

>>18541572
>>18542208
>>18542262
>>18542335
>>18542619
>>18543305
>>18544108
>>18544869
>>18544900
I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

>>18550075
yeah this was my problem. girls flirted with me and my friend group tried to hook me up a few times but i rejected all of it. i could never contain my contempt for them

>>18550150
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one. In my case I didn’t really get the people around me (it was probably my fault) so I didn’t really want to engage with them. Today I’m much more social, but I’ve assumed that no matter how many friends I have or how much pussy I get, I will always be an outsider.

>>18542872
nothing will ever replace young dumb childish love
especially bragging on /lit/ about a threeway with 16 year olds when you're in your 30's. you're here for a reason anon

>>18550089
Good post anon. Started off seeming cringe but this hit a chord. I'm too jaded to make sincere posts anymore, last place I expected to find one was here.
>There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?
Well said fren

>>18542221
Fucking idiot

>>18543852
kek

>>18550046
Why does a supervillain do what he does?

>>18542463
>>18542500
>>18542504
>>18544046
>>18544058
ngmi consoomer fags

>>18543305
all true except when you inject testosterone directly
free lifehack

>>18543305
Cope brigade absolutely annihilated by this post

>>18550089
Good post, fellow gnostic.

>>18541580
Cope

>>18551692
your mom is a cope fag

>>18550089
Seething; have sex.

when did this board become so infested with incels?

Read fear and trembling OP

>>18543146
discord user detected

>>18543305
the elementary particles, correct?

Teenage love is a meme. I'm 28 and got my shit together in my 20s and now dating a cute submissive 20 y/o from a conservative family

>>18551792
Since basically 70% of the male population is incel nowadays

>>18552423
It's 30% and vast majority of those suffer from self-inflicted social retardation (porn and video games).

If you work on achieving the bare minimum of social skill and presentable looks, pussy is easier than ever. Girls fuck on the first date.

>>18552423
>70%
lol fuck no

>>18552442
>Girls fuck on the first date
eww gross

>>18552466
No wonder you're incel lol

>>18543305
Wrong.

>>18552442
Imagine thinking that there's anything praiseworthy about cooming into a balloon with someone you don't respect.
The liberation of sexuality is just a more pernicious form of enslavement.

>>18552509
Yeah I remember seething like this but then I had sex. Try it.

>>18552509
Have sex

>>18552470

>>18552509
Come on don't you want to have sex

It's the only thing that makes you valuable as a person

>>18552516
and then you woke up

pic rel is the most depressing one I've come across. Some advice coming from someone who used to spend all his time lamenting tfw no gf is it's really not worth dwelling on and there's a lot more to life. Developing epilepsy really changed my perspective on things and I yearn for the days when I at least had a job, hobbies I could enjoy, the freedom to drive and travel where I wanted. Could always just pay to see escorts if I got desperate as well. The point is just enjoy what you can while you can, you never know how long it's going to last.

>>18552526
Nigga knows all about these hoes and their simps

>>18552470
next time take 3 dicks

>>18541572
stop crying over muh teenage love nigga its super cringe and embarrassing

>>18552566
this tbqh. nauseating thread

>>18550089
Best post itt

>>18550075
This. The only girl that liked me was utgly and annoying too.

>>18552442
>self-inflicted social retardation
i have that

>>18543305
Shut the fuck up Houellebecq

It really does suck man, especially seeing how socially successful everyone else in college was compared to me. I had my shit together - did a lot of clubs, had a lot of passions, published a novel and made a bunch of short films, was top of my class (at an Ivy, nonetheless). But no one, as far as I know, ever took romantic interest in me. Or at least, I could never spark that interest in others.

There were four girls in college with whom I was very good "friends" - as in, they invited me out to lunch, to clubs, to movies. We hung out and talked and bonded. I asked out each of them, and was on each occasion rejected. I always got my hopes up, thinking "wow, with all of our shared interests and how eager she is to hang with me and the frequency with which we seem to be flirting, she must like me, right?" But each time I was met with a variant of "sorry, I don't have feelings for you". They would talk about their exes, and I'd listen, wondering the whole time "What did those guys have that I don't? What have I been doing that isn't working?" (And believe me, it's not looks - I can assure you I am above average in terms of handsomeness or whatever.)

I'm 23 and have never kissed anyone, and it feels like my time to experience love is running out. I'm reaching the point where it will be considered a red-flag that I've never dated anyone before. I also fear that, being out of college, things like what I do for work and how much money I have will become determinants of my attractiveness. Agh, I just hate all of this. I hate constantly walking down the street and seeing couples hand in hand. I hate hearing all of my friends talk about the people they're having sex with and the romances they're pursuing. I hate falling in love with girls and believing that they may like me, only to find that I've all along been deluding myself. Sometimes I want to die.

>>18553942
Have you approached some girl through your Instagram where you post your artwork? Some anon on /p/ have founds gfs through their photography accounts and shit.
Anyway the best way to make your roastie seethe is by posting photographs with other females.

>>18552516
I've had sex and I'm disgusted by whores

>>18553942
Dude... I'm 43 and despite living paycheque-to-paycheque for decades, I have got more pussy than Bubbles' kitty cafe.

Attracting women is about being brash and making yourself seem wild and untameable. Give them a challenge... if you're always in a good mood and agreeable, they start to see you as just another female friend.

>>18553942
The first mistake is frankly ever establishing a friendly, extended relationship with a girl you are interested in. The signaling and propositioning must occur within the first few encounters/interactions; the longer you wait the further you are resigning yourself into the territory of non-romantic social interest. You may not like it, you may think it makes more sense to see if you and a girl are even socially compatible and not at odds with each other, that you may judge a potential relationship to be conducive and successful, but women are fundamentally emotional, and they are more flattered by you being quick and confident than they are by you meekly (their intuition) testing the waters. Frankly they would rather have a fleeting, impassioned, failed relationship than a calculated and planned (dispassionate) relationship.

>>18554094
This is it right here.
>Serendipity
>Living in the moment
>Being more about saying "yes" than saying "no"

Years ago, I was dating a lot and bringing my dates to a certain bar. We would have the same waitresses and bartenders over and over. Generally our table would be joined by other friends and everyone would share laughs, it was great. Very social.

One day, I see one of the waitresses sitting at the bar off her shift, bored. I walk up and sit down, we have a drink and start talking. She had no plans and neither did I. I then suggested we walk a block to my place, smoke a joint and get naked. She accepted. It was great.

That's the power of social interaction + spontaneous bravery.

>>18550089
Good shit. I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>18554094
>Frankly they would rather have a fleeting, impassioned, failed relationship than a calculated and planned (dispassionate) relationship.
But why?

>>18541580
This. Had my first at 23 and I felt like a 16 year old. I miss her with everything, bros. Still remember the first moment I saw her.

>>18554153
Because it makes them feel desired. It doesn't have to make sense or be rationalize-able to you, it simply is. They want to feel desired, and a fleeting passion (which is prone to, but not wholly exclusive to, failure) is what gives that to them.

>>18554183
Doesn't this boost their ego too and makes it easier to tell boys to fuck off?

>>18554202
You don't need to worry about overlooking their ego. Niggers, pajeets, and whiteknights have already maxed her out long before you saw her. You'd just be another face in the haze of faces speaking the same hollow flatteries she would hear every day. It doesn't get "easier" for them to say no, because no is the default.

>>18554226
Overlooking = overclocking*
I hate phones but my back is sore from sitting at PC all day

>>18554226
If she told fuck off to those countless faces then why should I take any chances? Is there anything which that one can do differently?

>>18554261
She told them no because they didn't do anything for her. Maybe you will, and probably you won't. Therefore you play your numbers, and win 1/100 times, or you don't play your numbers, and you only lose.

The game isn't hard and it isn't fair. Frankly I don't play it either. But you still have to acknowledge what it is because petty personal defiance isn't going to change any part of it.

>>18554300
Thank you for replying anon. Whole shit feels very futile.
This >>18550089 post is spot on I think.

>>18541580
Love isn't pure, people experience it through their subjectivity, so age do matter

>>18542289
/thread

>>18541821
My feelings were more way intense when I was a teen and I could be in love, I've no longer been in love and my heartbeat doesn't increase it's rate only by being close to a girl or imaginating my next love experience. I have heart of ice and women annoy me most of the time

>>18554413
Bro... I'm 43... that shit you're describing?

IT IS A STRENGTH.

You're only butthurt that you didn't fuck a ton of chicks to feed your ego. Why do you NEED that?

>>18546073
I can't recommend that short story enough, I literally cried when I read it a couple of years ago

>>18541580
holy cope

>>18554461
I bet this poster couldn't even find a good photo of himself with any of his former hot exes

>>18554461
First love between two elder-aged people sounds comfy.

>>18541572
Nietzsche because he also missed out

>>18550066
Hahaha you are so pathetic.

>>18555204
t.worthless faggot

>>18554510
>message chick you used to date in highschool
>ask for a photo of you two together back then
>"omg anon you absolute creep wtf is wrong with you!!"
This would happen 9/10 times. And posters itt think teen love is something to be placed above all else when in reality only perverted creeps obsess over it.

>>18555392
Cope

>>18555204
Sounds stupid.
I had a chance but I got greedy.

>>18555392
Pure cope.

>>18553942
I hope things get better for you, anon. It sounds like you're an interesting guy since you've done all of those things. The novel, the short films, girls like that stuff, or at least I think they do. I'm in a similar boat as you so I guess I don't really know.

>>18553942
>I hate constantly walking down the street and seeing couples hand in hand
>I hate falling in love with girls and believing that they may like me, only to find that I've all along been deluding myself
That's too real. You sound like a good m8
>>18554094
Well bruv both approaches didn't work for me. Perhaps because the last girl I tried to be "assertive" with was an absolute mental wreckage. A shame I don't have energy or other candidates to try it again

>>18555393
>>18555416
Go ahead and do it then.

>>18550089
Holy mother of all incel cope posts.

>>18550046
Some men just want to watch the world burn

>>18555392
The people who reply to you with "cope" are people who have no photos of themselves with girls.

Look at this thread? Nobody can even show off women they've been with...

>>18555806
Incel cope has unironically led to humanity's greatest achievements and enlightenment.

>>18550066
>calls me a demoralizing demon
>tells me to kill myself

oh, the ironing

>>18556106
/Lit/ is unironically more toxic than /Pol/

>>18556170
Why the fuck are people capitalizing the names of boards recently

>>18556106
Suicide is moral for certain people. In fact, it's not only moral, it's the ideal course of action.

>>18556170
I should stop coming here. I should stop coming to 4chan in general. I mean, I'm here forever but I guess I should take one of those breaks. It's a waste of time and just depresses me. I don't want to think about being a khv in his mid 20s or hear about the current state of women. I need to focus on improving myself. I know there are still some good women out there. I will find one eventually and we will get married and have a family.

>>18556870
poor naive baby

>>18551771
give sex

The hottest girl in my school wanted desperately to be my gf when I was like 14/15. She was too clingy and weird for me, so I just did nothing. Maybe it was for the better, she was nuts. Instead, I ended up with the ugliest girl in my school, and have been with her for 11 years. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>18547264
Can confirm
t. Ukrainian

The thought and sight of sex disgusts me
I want to get married to give my parents grandchildren but other than that i would prefer to live the rest of my life alone and ascetic.

>>18557844
The only great thing about sex is the intimacy with a girl you love, but nowadays it's borderline impossible to fall for the illusion because any decent looking girl older than 15 was already used as a fucktoy by Chad, and by the time they start college their bodycount is already in double digits.

>>18542316
>The dangerous effects of Christianity in the brain.
t. Chad porn enjoyer

>>18541572
>khv until age 26
>now engaged and soon married to a qt muslimah
Islam really is a blessing from God. Alhamdulillah for the day I became Muslim

>>18557827
bout to have a taste of yr own medicine on saturday then eh

>>18557875
>got my hole before uni
>didn’t become a nutter
alhamdulillah

>>18557913
no i was talking about the war thats going on, not football

>>18550089
Schopie is it really you??

>>18557930
woeful chat

>>18550089
overrated post

>>18541572
I feel you. Last time I truly liked a girl was in my pre teen years and there was no more true and pure love for any other girl since then.
It's not about sex, otherwise any female could satisfy my wish for love. It's the ''zing'' that happens when a girl fits your mental image of an ideal female but also makes you feel a huge sense of familiarity. This girl doesn't make me wonder how it would be to be with her but rather she just has to be my wife and no other person can take this role.
Cute puppy love or nothing.

>>18541572
Teenagers aren't supposed to be romantically involved anyways, you dumb tard.

>>18558016
There's no romance after your teenage years, only coping and settling.

>>18541580
fuck you you disgusting pathetic lying piece of shit. don't spread bullshit lies like this. you and i both know that some people are hopelessly doomed to never feel love and that's okay. don't wag your fucking finger at us and say "ah you just haven't found the right one yet. never too late :)"
There is no hope. There's nothing to look forward to. Fuck you, you motherfucking optimist peice of trash

>>18558016
says who

>>18541572
I think of Norwegian Wood when I read your request, but I am not sure it really fits

>>18558026
> says who
God.

> There's no romance after your teenage years, only coping and settling.
"Coping" and "settling" is only for genetic refuse and those who burned out their dopamine receptors.
Man wasn't meant to live like this.

>>18548941
Romanticism was and still is highly valued by catholics you ignorant atheist trash

>>18558031
You can add delusion to coping and settling, you demented christcuck. Enjoy your used up church slut once she's ready to settle for dependable provider.

>>18557852
Sex is pleasure drunkness and any feelings of ''love'' that it produces are delusions.

>>18551109
I am seiously considering frauding. What are the psychological changes when you blast test?

>>18558086
Test will make you more confident, assertive, motivated and positive in general.
Unless you go overboard and start blasting musth-tier testosterone, it'll have mostly positive mental effects.
But itll affect your natural test production negatively.

>>18558031
>God.
where? my God explicitly does not say that

>>18558101
>But itll affect your natural test production negatively.
Yeah thats my only worry. I am also scared of feeling like shit when I come off test

>>18558101
>But itll affect your natural test production negatively.
does that stop when you quit taking it? and in what ways do these effects affect ME? also what about hair loss?

>>18558127
No, it'll stop while youre taking it. Your testes get negative feedback on test production from the testosterone in your system, so if you artificially raise the test in your system, your testes will get a lot of negative feedback and their production will drop.

Even if Id ever get a gf my madonna-whore complex will prevent me from either fucking or loving her.

>>18555825
thanks for your service

>>18554120
>>18554094
Is that approach good for forming long term relationships?

>>18558023
You can always love Christ.

>>18555819
Too be fair, putting a picture of yourself and a former romantic partner on 4chan isn't the wisest idea. Especially with all the nihilistic toxic creeps in the thread.