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Whose the most literarily interesting historical figure? I don’t mean as an author but looking at the life narrative like a book.

>> No.18534703

>>18534668
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Cagliostro

>> No.18534708

test

>> No.18535216

>>18534668
It probably seems generic but Julius and Augustus Caesar, which is more like 2 parts to one story really, that of the fall of the republic, which has amply been recognized by authors of different genres everywhere. What is really extraordinary thing about it is that you literally can’t make shit like this up because it’s all too big with too large of a cast for any single person to concoct, but the reality of the events stares you right in the face: the months of July and August

>> No.18535237

>>18534668
Mikhail Bakunin

>> No.18535244

>>18534668
I’ve always thought the life of Lincoln was very novel-like and even has some really odd parallels to the life of Christ, but like some classic American fable or something. Truthfully the American experiment should have just ended right there at his death and funeral like closing the cover of a book, and maybe in a way it did

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>>18534668
Maybe you guys will find it too simple but Alexander basically has the life of a Shounen character mc, which you think is childish to enjoy but idc it’s entertaining and motivating as fuck. His death is also pretty dramatic and interesting.

>> No.18535253

>>18534668
The most interesting one is definitely subjective. But I'll throw someone into the thread: Lawrence of Arabia.

>> No.18535280

>>18535244
That would imply that he saved America when in truth he destroyed America.

>> No.18535423

Napoleon is THE most interesting man of history

>> No.18535429

>>18534668
rasputin

>> No.18535436
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>>18535280
>restored The Union
>also destroyed America

>> No.18535440

It’s a lot harder to pick if you take out politicians

>> No.18535445

>>18535423
More books have been written about Napoleon than any other person in history.

>> No.18535451

>>18534668
Byron

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>>18535436
Sherman should have burned the entire south to the ground

>> No.18535481

>>18535245
>Alexander basically has the life of a Shounen character mc
Thought the same thing. He's life was so novelesque and full of memorable episodes and gimmicks that one has to ask for a moment if it is not a ficitional crafting.

>> No.18535490

>>18534668
You posted him OP

>> No.18535524

>>18534668
Hitler, Julius and Augustus Caesar, Alexander, Napoleon, and Lincoln are the most likely candidates so far mentioned in this thread. Carl Sandburg's biography of Lincoln is extremely dramatic as are the lincoln bits of Shelby Foote's history of the Civil War.

I'd also say Robert E. Lee, he gets a bad rep obviously being a confederate general, but his memoirs are incredible.

There's gotta be someone from Russia for sure, Maxim Gorky is very interesting

>> No.18535534

>>18535436
America is not its government. Lincoln is antithetical to the spirit of the Founding Fathers, whose legacy the Confederates carried with them into the war.

>> No.18535572

>>18535524
>no one mentions Robert Guiscard
>named the greatest military conqueror and mind of Europe between Julius Caesar and Napoleon
>almost conquered Byzantium in the 1000s but died from typhus off the coast before he landed his troops

>> No.18535585

>>18535534
Neither side deserved to win as the “founding fathers” steered it wrong from the start.

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>>18534668
a nobody that became a god
he's really interesting

>> No.18535665

>>18535585
No disagreement there. Catholic monarchy when?

>> No.18535681

>>18535627
>implying he wasn't always a God
Step this way please, heretic.

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>>18535665
You misunderstand for humor’s sake, I trust.

>> No.18535709

>people talking about Lincoln as if his life could even compare to Julius Caesar or Napoleon

>> No.18535710

>>18535245
having a shonen esque life irl would actually be very literary, but its boring when read in fiction because the author makes the rules

>> No.18535716

>>18535709
it wasnt meant to be an autistically rigorous discussion

>> No.18535760

>>18535681
>>implying he wasn't always a God
He *is* the *one and only* God.

>> No.18535772

People will be fascinated with Donald Trump for a while I bet

>> No.18535896

>>18535760
>can’t even explain yhwh
Pea brained christards should be banned.

>> No.18536301

>>18535772
Trump’s the dark horse answer. Despite the gaudy exterior there’s something pretty peculiar and mysterious about him. I highly recommend everyone in this thread to watch the documentary Hypernormalization by Adam Curtis, you should be able to find it on YouTube.

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>>18535524
>>18534668
The Mad Baron. He’s like out of Evola’s wildest dreams but real.

>> No.18536320

>>18534668
genghis "the gigachad" khan

>> No.18536339

>>18536301
I think the thing that’s interesting about him is that he actually has a lot of significance as a symbol of American history and all the problems the US faces up to this point, which he is totally unaware of because he’s kind of a moron in a lot of ways.

>> No.18537191

Anyone could sound interesting if presented by a good writer.

>> No.18537207

>>18535423
If he had died at Waterloo he would win no contest

>> No.18537221

>>18534668
Mishima

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>>18534668
hitler-kun?

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i wish he was my dad

>> No.18539008

>>18535245
I agree.

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>>18535244
>I’ve always thought the life of Lincoln was very novel-like and even has some really odd parallels to the life of Christ

americans everyone

>> No.18540325

Cesare Borgia

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>>18534668
I've read two books on Bonny recently, must say they were pretty good, his life was fascinating.
Although I was getting a little bored when there was too much description of wars and battlefields, even tho Bonny's quotes on war were quite interesting.

The biographies I've read were quite modern. Roberts and Zamoyski's, but there are dozens of books on him out there.

Right now I am going through a De Gaulle's biography, still in the early chapters but enough to be disappointed; What a prudish conservative boy with no wide perspective at all... No love letters, no scandals, no mistresses.

He was too pragmatic, unimaginative.

>> No.18542846

>>18534668
Mohamed (pbuh)

>> No.18543713

>>18538999
>his wife and mother died on the same day
>Valentine's Day
>"the light has gone out of my life."
>keeps on living
How did he do it bros? Also checked trips for teddy.

>> No.18544145

>>18534668
John McAfee

>> No.18544406

>>18537207
I think his episodes in exile are actually the most literarily potent. The man who once had everything and now lost everything is such a great fucking image.

>> No.18545509

>>18542414
I think it should be admitted that De Gaulle was propped up as the “great Frenchman” of the period primarily to save face—for who else would they have for that time of national humiliation? All the other Allies had heroes, so naturally it was required to have the French have one as well, though I think historical memory in the average person has amply demonstrated that he is nowhere near remembered as everyone else like FDR, Churchill, or Stalin

>> No.18545525

>>18535216
yeah, as far as famous people go that one is pretty epic because Caesar succeeded despite the odds. His own government declared him a traitor yet he won it all.

>> No.18545614

>>18534668
In the past few centuries its unironically Hitler. Our entire contemporary moral schema is a reaction to him.

>> No.18545658

Richard F Burton seemed pretty cool. One of the few based Anglos

>> No.18546046

>>18534668
Vlad The Impaler, he had such an interesting life