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Welcome to /lit/'s summer loosely organized Gravity's Rainbow reading group where a bunch of /lit/izens have decided to read and talk about Gravity's Rainbow. No discord, no schedule, just pure /lit/ posting.

Ask questions, post thoughts, post your progress.

>> No.18466651

What was the point of the bananas

>> No.18466654 [DELETED] 

Where's Butterfly :3

>> No.18466662

>>18466610
But... but.. I thought it was starship troopers/neuromancer/blood meridian month...

>> No.18466668

>>18466662
summer is not a month.

>> No.18466699

Some unorganized thoughts upon finishing the first 100 pages of GR.

Before reading GR, I read somewhere (probably just /lit/, maybe wikipedia?) that one of Pynchon's shticks is that he blends highbrow culture with lowbrow entertainment. Having read the first 100ish pages of my book, I can see this somewhat, though the "lowbrow" moments really outshine anything in this book, I'll get more into that in a sec. I haven't exactly noted any "highbrow culture" references. The book itself being a post-modern doorstopper with complex writing is itself an example of highbrowness but it isn't exactly referencing things you'd find in Joyce's Ulysses. The only kind of similar thing to something you'd find in Joyce's Ulysses as far as references goes would probably be obscure history. Like, I never heard of the Herero genocide for example. But anyway, let's move on to the lowbrow parts.

Three of my favorite scenes have been, which I assume will be most others': The Adenoid (aka, The Blob) fantasy sequence; Roger Mexico and Dr. Pointsman attempting to capture a dog, which involves two instances of classic Chaplin / Three Stooges-esque slapstick humor (a man getting his foot stuck in a toilet bowl seat; the two men running into each other and getting tangled in a net); and of course the legendary sequence of Slothrop's hallucinating the night before where his harmonica falls in a toilet. Of course, in a lesser author, this would all be presented straightforwardly, but Pynchon's post-modern fever dream writing style heighten all of these scenes. (come to think of it, one of the first things that happen is a character--Bloat--slips on a fucking banana peel like this is some bugs bunny shit; I'm only thinking about this now but that is a good indicator of what follows).

This could just be my mind thinking too hard about The Blob scene and trying to find connections to other references of "low brow" entertainment / movies in general, but I wonder if Slothrop's story is supposed to be a semi-parody of James Bond (he isn't exactly a spy, but the fact he fucks a new woman every week it seems comes off as a parody of the Bond girl trope given everything else about him). GR did come out a few years after the golden age of James Bond.

Also, I like that every name is basically a pun or is used in a punny manner at some point, sometimes in blatant ways. ("'Roger' said Roger.")

>> No.18466718

>>18466662
Gravity's Rainbow ain't really a book that can be read carefully in a month, at least as far as I'm concerned. Way too fucking dense.

Blood Meridian is a great short group read. Are you dedicating a month to just that one or all three combined? Cuz Blood Meridian can be completed in a few days.

>> No.18466737

but seriously were the bananas a reference or something? they never appear again

>> No.18466758

>>18466651
>>18466737
My early assumption: phallic imagery. I don't know how far you've gotten but erections play a prominent role. I've been marking any time a banana, V-2 rocket, or erection is mentioned, as well as any other types of phallic imagery, and seeing if there are any themes of masculinity connected to the scene of what is going on. Masculinity seems to be a prominent theme (though not as prominent as, say, paranoia, insanity, government conspiracies).

Pirate hasn't been featured much after the first 20 pages (im only on page 100-ish), so that's probably why bananas haven't been mentioned again. They probably will be at some point.

>> No.18466777

>>18466718
Well I dedicated a week to the first two and haven’t started BM yet

>> No.18466799

>>18466777
>>18466662
Where is Blood Meridian being organized? Or is it like this thread, where you just post in the thread whenever one pops up? I'd be down for re-reading it. I honestly didn't like it the first time around, but I'm not against re-trying it.

>> No.18466850

Post your copy of Gravity's Rainbow and a Banana Breakfast, /lit/!

>> No.18466895

WHEN DOES IT START?

>> No.18466915
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>>18466850
My banana pancakes from a few years ago.

>> No.18466937

>>18466915
Nice chemex. Been meaning to pick one up.

>> No.18466962

MOTHERFUCKER!

How hard is it to say when it's going to start? I hate you zoomers so goddamn much. This is the fifth time I'm asking.

>> No.18466963
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only KYRGYZ LIGHT finger for you

>> No.18466966

>>18466937
They work well. I would probably just get one of the pour over setups that use normal filters and set on top of any container, the difference between them is not great and comes down more to technique than the maker. The other sorts of pour overs were not common when I bought it and Chemex were the only option I could get locally.

>> No.18466971

>>18466962
Do you not know what loosely organized means?

>> No.18466978

>>18466966
I already have a Hario pour over, but I mostly want a Chemex because they look nice and I'm slowly amassing a large collection of different coffee brewing implemenrs.

>> No.18467024

>>18466895
>>18466962
Start reading whenever you feel like starting, few of us have, id say about four are on our way with it. its loosely organized, which means make a topic on lit and discuss it at your leisure, just try finishing by like august 1st

>> No.18467026

>>18466962
It started the moment the thread was created. Hurry up and post something about the book

>> No.18467034

>>18466978
I went through that phase, it was fun and I have enjoyed giving away my collection to random people as they fell out of use. Pretty much settled on my moka pot, which was the first coffee maker I bought. Still have the Chemex for when I have company and need to make a pot full and I think I have a french press still hiding in the back corner of the cupboard.

>> No.18467089

>>18467034
My moka pot is definitely what's seen the most use in my collection the past few months, but sometimes it's fun to switch it up for a bit.

>> No.18467131

guys you're talking about coffee machines now

>> No.18467140

>>18466610
Dropped after 50 pages to read V.. Ended up dropping V. after 100 pages to read Lot 49. Just finished L49 and i'm not sure if i should read V. or GR considering i genuinely hated reading GR but i loved the first few pages of M&D so i want to leave that book for last.
I know GR will filter me hard so i will read it along with V.. Any thoughts on this?

>> No.18467142

>>18467131
Coffee is important and the culture surrounding it is integral to literature.

>> No.18467167

Holy shit!! so glad this is happening because I just began my first read of GR three days ago without knowledge of this existing. I’m still early in at the part where Pirate is reading the kryptospam message sent to him from the V2 and he has to cum on it to read the message. Also just read the passage where Slothrop went down the toilet in the jazz club in Boston to the Wild West. Literally one of the funniest and most entertaining things I’ve ever read. I loved the description of when Malcolm X was attempting to rape him as he was stuck headfirst in the toilet and Malcolm dropped a glob of Vaseline down Slothrops asscrack and the Vaseline made “chevrons” in his crack hairs as it slid down. Dunno the exact quote as the book isn’t on me atm but that description was amazing. Love so much so far

>> No.18467194

>>18466971
>>18467024
>>18467026
retarded zoomers just guaranteed their book club will fail

us based millennials had a HIGHLY successful GR reading group a few years back with a tightly structured schedule...look it up on the archive and you can see the brilliance

>> No.18467199
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>>18467167
If Slothrop follows that harp down the toilet it’ll have to be headfirst, which is not so good, cause it leaves his ass up in the air helpless, and with Negroes around that’s just what a fella doesn’t want, his face down in some fetid unknown darkness and brown fingers, strong and sure, all at once undoing his belt, unbuttoning his fly, strong hands holding his legs apart—and he feels the cold Lysol air on his thighs as down come the boxer shorts too, now, with the colorful bass lures and trout flies on them. He struggles to work himself farther into the toilet hole as dimly, up through the smelly water, comes the sound of a whole dark gang of awful Negroes come yelling happily into the white men’s room, converging on poor wriggling Slothrop, jiving around the way they do singing, “Slip the talcum to me, Malcolm!” And the voice that replies is who but that Red, the shoeshine boy who’s slicked up Slothrop’s black patents a dozen times down on his knees jes poppin’ dat rag to beat the band . . . now Red the very tall, skinny, extravagantly conked redhead Negro shoeshine boy who’s just been “Red” to all the Harvard fellas—“Say Red, any of those Sheiks in the drawer?” “How ’bout another luck-changin’ phone number there, Red?”—this Negro whose true name now halfway down the toilet comes at last to Slothrop’s hearing—as a thick finger with a gob of very slippery jelly or cream comes sliding down the crack now toward his asshole, chevroning the hairs along like topo lines up a river valley—the true name is Malcolm, and all the black cocks know him, Malcolm, have known him all along—Red Malcolm the Unthinkable Nihilist sez, “Good golly he sure is all asshole ain’t he?” Jeepers Slothrop, what a position for you to be in! Even though he has succeeded in getting far enough down now so that only his legs protrude and his buttocks heave and wallow just under the level of the water like pallid domes of ice. Water splashes, cold as the rain outside, up the walls of the white bowl. “Grab him ’fo’ he gits away!” “Yowzah!” Distant hands clutch after his calves and ankles, snap his garters and tug at the argyle sox Mom knitted for him to go to Harvard in, but these insulate so well, or he has progressed so far down the toilet by now, that he can hardly feel the hands at all. . .

>> No.18467205

>>18467140
Perhaps try to pair a physical copy of GR with an audiobook and go for nice long walks in this nice summer weather

>> No.18467207

>>18467167
Shit, I completely missed that Malcolm in that chapter was suppose to be Malcolm X.

>> No.18467218

>>18467167
>>18467199

Where the fuck does Slothrop go to after being shit out of the toilet pipes? I get that he sees Crouchfield and Whappo, but I could not, for the life of me, gauge what setting this scene was suppose to be.

>> No.18467226

>>18467167
>Literally one of the funniest and most entertaining things I’ve ever read.

I've sat a few people down and read this passage to them (with some context, like what this book is kind of about, or at least the scene), and everyone bursts out laughing at "Good golly he sure is all asshole ain’t he?"

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>Down the toilet, lookit me, What a silly thing ta do! Hope nobody takes a pee, Yippy dippy dippy doo... At which precise point there comes this godawful surge from up the line, noise growing like a tidal wave, a jam-packed wavefront of shit, vomit, toilet paper and dingleberries in mind-boggling mosaic, rushing down on panicky Slothrop like an MTA subway train on its own hapless victim. Nowhere to run. Paralyzed, he stares back over his shoulder. A looming wall stringing long tendrils of shitpaper behind, the shockwave is on him—GAAHHH! he tries a feeble frog kick at the very last moment but already the cylinder of waste has wiped him out, dark as cold beef gelatin along his upper backbone, the paper snapping up, wrapping across his lips, his nostrils, everything gone and shit-stinking now as he has to keep batting micro-turds out of his eyelashes, it’s worse than being torpedoed by Japs! the brown liquid tearing along, carrying him helpless... seems he’s been tumbling ass over teakettle—though there’s no way to tell in this murky shitstorm, no visual references... from time to time he will brush against shrubbery, or perhaps small feathery trees. It occurs to him he hasn’t felt the touch of a hard wall since he started to tumble, if that indeed is what he’s doing.

>> No.18467247

>>18466654
Is butterfly going to join? I'd love her anarcho-kiddie takes on Pynchon's magnum opus.

>> No.18467249

>>18467131
My bad anon, I'm just autistic about coffee. That said, rereading GR actually sounds pretty good to me around now, it's been a couple years since I last read through it. I'll start on it tonight and hopefully have more to contribute in future threads than my coffeetism.

>> No.18467264

>>18467218
He was drugged, it is all a hallucination. He gets shot up with the sodium amytol a few times throughout the novel and goes on trips.

>> No.18467271

>>18467264
No, I know that, but his hallucination still has settings. Restroom of a dance club -> into the toilet -> sewer pipes -> then he appears somewhere and that somewhere is what I didn't understand. Probably meant to be ambiguous to add to the fact it was all a hallucination.

>> No.18467333

>>18466610
Glad to see you're following through with this, OP. Based af

>> No.18467344

>>18466915
i tried making these after i read GR and they came out like shit

>> No.18467360

>>18467344
OP has been advertising this for a while now though

>> No.18467387

>>18467344
You need to decrease the liquid and remove the sugar, also use lots of butter in the pan since all the sugar in the bananas will want to caramelize and stick. I generally use my standard buttermilk pancake recipe, skip the sugar, mash in a ripe banana and add the buttermilk as needed to get the consistency correct.

Any banana bread recipe will work, maybe add a touch more liquid since those batters are on the thick side for pancakes, but if you turn down the heat and cook them slower they would work as is.

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Where the fuck is the Gravity's Rainbow Cookbook, pynchon?

>> No.18467466

>>18467449
>banana breakfast (first part of the book)
>Ernest Pudding's Gourd Surprise (p. 81)
>Toad-in-the-Hole (p. 81)

what else would be in it?

>> No.18467469

>>18467466
Horrible British candy

>> No.18467472

>>18467449
Cookbooks are for the soulless.
>>18467466
Probably candies and drinks.

>> No.18467476

>>18467466
Osbie Feel's mushroom thing? (p. 94 - 95) I don't really know what he's making with it, seems like some shroom hallucinatory biscuits.

>> No.18467484

>>18467476
He was drying it to make it easily rolled up and smoked. Don't think this would actually work, you would just end up with a gross mushroom cig.

>> No.18467517

>>18467484
out of curiousity, i googled amanita cigarette, and apparently this is something people do. based on posts it won't cause major hallucinations, just make you feel a little high as if you smoked some dank ass weed.

>> No.18467576

>>18467517
I am not sure I would believe those reports, I think the psychoactives in Amanita Muscaria are destroyed well below the temperatures of fire. But what I know is learned from an interest in mushrooms in general, not hallucinogenic substances, so I could very well be wrong. The effects of Amanita Muscaria certainly do not sound pleasant for the most part, being violently ill while hallucinating does not seem a good way to spend an afternoon.

You need to remember the power of suggestion, thanks to GR people were getting "high" off banana peels for years, I knew some kids in highschool who did it regularly and would speak in depth about the experiences they had.

>> No.18467670

>that section which introduces Katje, Gottfried, and Blicero

think I'm gonna need to reread this, I'm completely lost

>> No.18467709

>>18467670
This kind of chapter structure has occurred a few times in this novel and I wanted to know what your guys' thoughts were on it:

Basically, a character is introduced in a scene, their inner thoughts are presented, and in those inner thoughts, a new character is mentioned, then the scene shifts to that new character in some other scene, and the cycle repeats. In this chapter, Katje is introduced, at some point she thinks about Blicero, then the chapter switches to him, and eventually he thinks of Gottfried.

It's a very stream of consciousness-style structure, especially given what Pynchon chooses to focus on with each character. It can be pretty nauseating and dense, though the same can be said for the rest of GR. Like most other PoMo works, there are many things in GR which most readers are simply not ready for.

>> No.18467869

I finished this a few months ago, wish i could join you guys. to first time readers: stick to it through the first 150 pages or so, part 2 the book really kicks into gear. the book really is unlike anything else in literature. have fun. i'll be reading these threads and contributing where i can.

>> No.18467889

>>18467869
>stick to it through the first 150 pages or so, part 2 the book really kicks into gear

ive seen this sentence repeated in a few threads. Does the book retain it's density/difficulty throughout? At the moment, I find I can only read like 8 - 10 pages per day because every paragraph is so thick with information.

>> No.18467896

>>18467889
Density, yes. But you sort of get used to it. In part 2 the non-stop character introductions slow down and you follow one/a few for a while. Part 1 is basically putting all the pieces into place. Once there's a stronger throughline it becomes a lot easier to get through. Also, don't attempt to fully grasp every single thing you read. The book is made to be re-read. You're not going to fully understand it on your first read. You're supposed to get lost and confused, just accept it and enjoy the trip.

>> No.18467912

>>18466737
It's just comfy wartime behavior

>> No.18467918

>>18466718
summer is longer than a month stupid

>> No.18467963

>>18467918
That's what I was getting at. I replied an anon who said this month was for other books, but I said that GR isn't a book that can be read in a book, hence why this group reading is summer-long, not just a month-long.

>> No.18467988

>>18467963
>GR isn't a book that can be read in a book
Holy...
Anon this is profound

>> No.18467991

For some reason, I've been procrastinating starting this book. wtf is wrong with me. nothing is wrong with me, okay? This isn't a school assignment anon just relax. I will read 10 pages today and get the ball rolling. maybe tomorrow morning actually. It is a fun book, right?

>> No.18468030

>>18467963
>isn't a book that can be read in a book
isn't a book that can be read in a month*

>> No.18468048

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>> No.18468144

>Although selected by the Pulitzer Prize jury on fiction for the 1974 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction, the Pulitzer Advisory Board was offended by its content, some of which was described as "'unreadable,' 'turgid,' 'overwritten' and in parts 'obscene'".[2] No Pulitzer Prize was awarded for fiction that year.

>> No.18468206

>>18466758
>assumption
it's made explicit when one of the guys walks in with a banana sticking out of his zipper and he's stroking it violently

>> No.18468228

>>18466610
John David Ebert has an excellent series on this, on the John David Ebert Channel, titled John David Ebert: Gravity's Rainbow.

I love him, just wish he wasn't so obviously deluded (or trolling maybe) with the cosmology stuff.

>> No.18468438

>>18468030
>*
Reddit tier symbol.

>> No.18468450

>>18466699
you know, in the final accounting, the confluence of high brow allusions and low-brow slapstick is only a minor aesthetic facet. Pretty verbose write-up for what you yourself call only a "schtick". Let's see you finish the book. We can have a more substantial and satisfying discussion on the broader, more weighty themes.

>> No.18468451

>>18467670
same

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>>18468228
>just wish he wasn't so obviously deluded (or trolling maybe) with the cosmology stuff.
Kek. A couple days ago he went on a twitter rant and privated a third of his videos for half a day because he didn't have enough patreons therefore nobody deserved his expert book analyses.

I haven't watched the series on Gravity's Rainbow, but his series on CoL49 was less than excellent.

>> No.18468576

>>18468484
He is consciously privating all his Mccarthy videos because he is writing a book on his first 3 works and BM and says nobody will buy it if they watched the videos. Fuck this guy, he is pathetic.

>> No.18468600

>>18467963
I think my first time reading through it took the better part of a month, but I was also somewhat more consistently busy then than I am now.
Starting my reread now, and I'm interested to see how long it takes me to get through.

>> No.18468607

>>18468484
>>18468576
I will not sit here and listen to you philistines besmirch the name of a man who has had SEVEN three ways. How many have you losers had? Don't even rpely to me with your seethe.

>> No.18468625

>>18468607
EIGHT

>> No.18468635

>>18468484
I've been watching him for about 3 years now and honestly thought he was trolling when he started getting into seances.

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>>18466850
>banana pancakes
>banana oatmeal
>banana chocolate shake

Thoughts on my Pynchonian breakfast, /lit/?

>> No.18468905

Guys, I'm afraid. I'm afraid I am going to get filtered.

>> No.18468929

>>18468905
it isnt a matter of will you or wont you.

you will.

>> No.18468938

Good luck doing this without a schedule. I'll give it a week before it's only like 3-4 of you left.

>> No.18469013

>>18468870
wtf is that edition?

>> No.18469028

>>18469013
penguin great books of the 20th century

>> No.18469082

>>18468870
There better be bananas in those pancakes and not just on top, ain't banana pancakes otherwise.

>> No.18469085

>>18469082
It is. I used banana milk mix.

>> No.18469344

>>18467670
>>18468451
okay i think i understand what happened in that chapter. On my first reading, I understood that Katje and Gottfried were Blicero's sex slaves, but now I also understand that Blicero has some kind of fucked up Hansel and Gretel fetish (also he's a transvestite) where he's the witch and his slaves are the children who come to his house for shelter. Not quite sure what the "Oven" is, maybe just code for sex?

>> No.18469368

>>18469085
Good job, anon. Would eat.

>> No.18469380

>>18469344
>oven
It is just implying that one of them will kill him

>> No.18471307

Fucking lazy Europeans not bumping

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>>18466737
>>18466758
They're phallic, but just as importantly they are an 'arc' shape. The arc is a half-circle that is incomplete and which ends in the 'earth', or in material existence. This goes against the spiritual continuity that extends beyond the earth and forms a full circle -- or that is, the circular rainbow that Pirate sees in the novel's opening pages.

In this way, the phallic undertones of the banana prefigures the rocket, which is engineered to penetrate the ground and bridge the divide between material and spiritual existence. Of course, the attempt to bridge this divide can only end in destruction. Pynchon also views the arc of the rocket as the apogee and embodiment of the Western scientific tradition, or more specifically, of a Newtonian mechanistic viewpoint of the world that seeks to map all phenomena within a visual schematic (an historical arc that likewise culminates in the destruction of WWII and, at the novel's end, nuclear holocaust). A lot of this will become clearer as you go deeper into the novel.

>> No.18471612

>>18471598
hmm maybe. It was funny when that one guy slipped on the banana peel tho.

>> No.18471728

https://voca.ro/1h0r1oopzdr0

>> No.18471741

>>18471728
um hello "The Based Visitation" this one right here

>> No.18471758

>>18471728
Nice

>> No.18471807

>>18471598
im beginning to think this book is too smart for me

>> No.18472018

>>18466610
I am ESL and it is hard.

>> No.18472026

>>18472018
an ESL should not read this

>> No.18472038

>>18472026
Guess what? I am going to plough through this book, you hear me? And I order his other books as well, so when I am finished with this one, I will read others and re-read until I can find the joy you people seem to find in it. Finally I will shove a banana up your tight ass, dumb white boy.

>> No.18472050

>>18472026
EFL shouldnt read it either

>> No.18472229

>>18472026
ESL here, it is not unreadable at all.

>> No.18472252

>>18466610
Just finished Beyond the Zero. I highly recommend watching the videos of John David Ebert. He gives a good guide to the book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTQBJNrKFA

>> No.18472455

Does anyone know where I could get an affordable copy of Weissenburger’s companion to gravity’s rainbow? The editions on Amazon are like $30 for paperback

>> No.18472488

>>18472252
I didnt know frank miller designed this edition that's cool.

>> No.18472496

>>18467140
i had to read gr in grad school and read it a few times. hated it the first read but really liked it after that. i probably would not have finished it if i hadnt been made to. i do love the book now

>> No.18472507

>>18472252
pretty based video, looks like this is going to take some more effort to read than I originally imagined.

>> No.18472519

>>18467199
riffing on when malcolm x, at the time detroit red, had to put his head into a toilet to get the lye out because the water was turned off due to frigid temperatures.

>> No.18472532

>>18467889
the density does not stop. few books keep it up the way gr does. absalom absalom does.

>> No.18472537

>>18471598
>and which ends in the 'earth',
What?

>> No.18472630

>>18472455
there has gotta be somewhere we can pirate it, 40 bucks is way too much. Apparently, the companion book is a necessity if you want to actually understand wtf is going on.

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>>18466699
Likely a reference to Chaplin

>> No.18472996

>>18467131
ya this isn't the Mason & Dixon readalong thread!!!

>> No.18473044

>>18466699
You're gonna love P2

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For anyone intimidated by Gravity's Rainbow or feeling like they understand very little of what they're reading, just keep at it. I read it last year having read only Crying of Lot 49, and I felt the same way. I just let the book wash over me, and didn't agonize over not understanding certain sequences or understated elements of the plot. I still really enjoyed the book, its humor, its prose, its style in general, even though I felt the whole way through like I didn't have a proper grasp of what was going on. After I finished it I read the sparknotes summary of the book, and on a high-level I understood 90% of the plot, and only missed out on a couple "important" details.

>> No.18473388

>>18473313
yeah but there is a lot more to it than just understanding the plot points lol

>> No.18473544

>>18472455
Check local libraries. My university library had a copy.

>> No.18473615

>>18472455
b-ok

>> No.18474171

>>18466610
Around what page does the shit-eating scene take place?

>> No.18474673

Hot damn, I'm craving some banana pancakes. I'll probably make some on Sunday when I'm off work.

>> No.18475253

I think I missed something: Why is Jessica cheating on Roger? Also, between Jessica+Roger and Jessica+Beaver, what relationship is the secret one and which is the one everyone else know about? I get that Beaver is her Lt. Also, I didnt understand what Roger meant when he said something along the lines of being afraid that he'll lose Jessica once the war is over.

>> No.18476621

Bump

>> No.18476662

>>18475253
Jessica was with Beaver before Roger. Beaver is the better fit, more secure. Jessica is with Roger as productive cope against the war. The rhizomatic movements throughout the war have created the sudden situation for them to meet, but once the war is over and there is no scarcity will the love survive on anything but lack?

>> No.18476762

>>18467247
S/he only posts in low-effort threads.

>> No.18476784

I have this book sitting on my bedstand where it has sat for months.
Now that I see a thread here I may as well hop back into it. The last thing I remember was the adenoid scene so I may just skim until I get back to there.

>> No.18476807

Just came across this, very funny.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080320072739/https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2006/10/pynchon.php/

>Author Thomas Pynchon is one of the most determinedly private people on the planet. His son? Not so much.
>Fifteen-year-old Jackson Pynchon enjoys yoga, acid jazz, and the films of Spike Lee. All this information, and more, is available in his profile on the social networking site Facebook.com. It requires permission to view, but that's not difficult to obtain; unlike his father, the famously reclusive author of mega-cult classics Gravity's Rainbow, The Crying of Lot 49, and V., Pynchon fils apparently welcomes interaction with the public. He has 635 friends in his network, including 182 at his New York City prep school, Collegiate.
>Should young Jackson ever feel the need to commiserate about the pressures of having famous parents, he can turn to his Facebook buddies Sam Brill (son of media mogul Steve Brill, Collegiate '06), Emily McEnroe (daughter of tennis great John McEnroe, Trevor Day School '09), or Daniel and Izzy Rattner (sons of real estate tycoon Steven Rattner, Collegiate '09 and '10, respectively).
>Other details: Jackson is "straight." He is interested in "random play" (despite being "married" to a lovely looking gal named Devika from Brearley!). His birthday is May 18. He's a member of several groups including Save Darfur-End Genocide, Stewart/Colbert 2008, and Procrastinators Anonymous. His religious views are "Rastafarian." Political causes he supports include "socialism" and "lowering the drinking age." His favorite author is—sorry, Pop!—Kurt Vonnegut.
>Nothing in the profile seems likely to bring as much shame to the family name as the career of Pynchon's niece, porn star Tristan Taormino. But one might think a writer who won't even allow a headshot on his dust jackets would be less than thrilled with his son's lively online social life.
>Intriguingly, Jackson's photo gallery includes a picture of the lad with his arm around the neck of a man who appears to be about his father's age; only Jackson is identified in the caption. While just a handful of photos of the elder Pynchon—whose latest tome, Against the Day, is due out in November—have been published in the past 40 years, several sources who have seen him up close in the past decade said, alas, it's not him.
>There are, however, three genuine affinity groups on Facebook for Thomas Pynchon fans. Guess who's not a member?

>> No.18477611

Must be developing a knack for reading Gravity's Rainbow because I'm flying through pages 100 to 200, where as page 1 to 100 took me a much longer time. Story is definitely benefitting from the slowdown of character introductions and letting us have more time with the characters.

>> No.18477621

>>18476807
Kind of fucked up to report on a 15 year old's social media, but I've seen worse from the news.

>yoga, acid jazz, Spike Lee
cringe.

>Pynchon's niece, porn star
Oh no no no no no

>> No.18478444

Ahh fuck it I just drop the 40 bucks on the companion book. I don't want to waste my time and not understand half the book. If it is the greatest Nobel since ww2 I might as well go all in and try hard not to get filtered.

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>>18467466
chocolate banana

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>>18473544
holy shit my library actually has it. looks like I'll be leaving my apartment today boys.

>> No.18478883

>>18468228
deluded how exactly?

>> No.18479061

>>18472630
before wikipedia maybe

>> No.18479244

>>18478883
Watch the video he posted of him "conversing," with Shopenhauer through a medium, and see for yourself. It's a good reminder that geniuses aren't infallible, and an insurmountable ego can lead to goofy places.

>> No.18479500

>>18479244
>geniuses
Have we fallen so fucking far that JDE is a genius now?

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Luckily my library had a copy, maybe I won't be getting filtered after all...

>> No.18479993

>>18479500
My friend, he has had not one, not two, nor three... but SEVEN three ways. Do you follow? SEVEN! No dime a dozen low IQ moron whose a mere 2SD above the mean will ever accomplish something so remarkable.

>> No.18480204

>>18479993
How do we know he is telling the truth? He could just be relating some of his hallucinations to bloat that numbahh

>> No.18480601

>>18480204
A lying soul is a loud one, and Ebert's chakric essence is Cucumberesque.

>> No.18481442

>>18472537
The Rainbow is an arc that visibly begins and ends in the earth, which symbolizes the realm of death. However, the full Rainbow would form a complete circle, indicating the cyclical unity of life and death.

>> No.18481464

>>18478444
It's well worth it imo, if you're going to be investing a whole summer into actually reading the thing then $40 isn't much