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What books and philosophers discuss the relation of Individualism VS Collectivism with Aesthetics?

>> No.18385248

>>18385210
Why the extremism in this? Why not seek a healthy balance?

>> No.18385333

>>18385248
Where?
Chill, I don't advocate for one or the other. Just analyzing the pros and cons, and the differences and impacts it has on production of art

>> No.18385347

>>18385210
>US
>individualist
>China
>collectivist
Brainlet.

>> No.18385353
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18385353

>>18385333
Cool. Just wondering out loud

>> No.18385510

>>18385210
collectivism is the result of individualism, its a product of individualism

>> No.18385573

>>18385347
Explain please

>> No.18385589

>>18385353
Who is this character you keep posting

>> No.18385607

>>18385573
>US
>dominated by twitter mobs and wokeism, organised religion is mainstream
>China
>cuthroat society, nothing but personal success matters, completely atheist

>> No.18385749

>>18385210
how did they measure this

>> No.18385818
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>>18385347
>>18385607
This is correct my first thought was how old is this image? Maybe 20 years ago it was true but not anymore individualism is toxic and dead in the US

>> No.18386062

I'm from Georgia AMA

>> No.18386107

>>18386062
how's georgia

>> No.18386330

>>18385347
I really want to hear your excuse for this being incorrect

>> No.18386387
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>>18385818
>>18385818
>white culture is to be polite
>black culture is to be ……

>white culture is to be self-reliant
>black culture to to be …….

Fuck I love being white.

>> No.18386400

>>18385607
Wow China sounds amazing, I had no idea.
Could you tell me more? What’s this social credit score I keep hearing about?

>> No.18386417
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>>18385818
>Western (Greek, Roman)
Greco-Romans aren't Western. Read Spengler.

>> No.18386559

>>18386417
>the cradle of western culture isn't western
Yeah, i don't need to read anything more than your post to know all i need to know.

>> No.18386582

>>18386559
No, they are their own thing. Western civilization is a posterior creation. It's like saying that Americans are Brits or some other nonsense. Again, read Spengler.

>> No.18386707

>>18386582
>read
I don't read where do you think you are?

>> No.18386715

>>18386707
>I don't read
Then you're not white. You're no better than a nigger.

>> No.18386749

>>18386387
That image is so fucking retarded. Are you going to suggest that Europeans did not do any of the things listed in that picture

>> No.18386849

>>18386400
>Wow China sounds amazing
I don't know why you would say that, that description doesn't look good

>Could you tell me more?
No

>What’s this social credit score I keep hearing about?
It doesn't do much, its kinda like your credit and mortgage metrics

>> No.18386861

>>18386749
You are retarded. It is a question of extents.

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18386964

>>18385589
Berry Pink girl. Aka beary pink, aka very nice girl. Old r9k meme.

>> No.18386973
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18386973

>>18386964
Pepe is even older than 2012. Really tired ugly meme. I wish people would drop him

>> No.18387060

>>18386582
Just because Spengler said something doesn't make it true. hell, it's a good sign it's probably false.

>> No.18387072
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18387072

>>18386964
>r9k meme.
[s4s] meme*

Geez. Alright. Leaving. Sorry.

>> No.18387805

>>18385210
Your data is wrong. Cf: Australian labour movement.

>> No.18387810

>>18387060
In this case, he's on point.

>> No.18388914

>>18385210
Any books that favor the Collectivism mindset?

>> No.18388929

>>18387072
>>18386964
Why do you go on r9k so often Butterfly? :3

Don't you workout? Do guys ever hit on your hot ass when you work out? Do you get a rush out of having a like 9/10 body surrounded by virgins on an internet anime site?

(you're not a butterface but you have a very nice ass :3)

>> No.18389289

>>18387072
>>18386964
>[s4s] meme
>old
The audacity of this bitch to constantly whine about Wojak and Pepe lel.

>> No.18389416

>>18385818
Did the KKK make that chart? Holy shit

>> No.18389428

>>18385607
Anon, China is collectivist because everyone is expected to conform and not stand out. Their nominally communist government is all about collectivism. The USA is all about personally standing out, being your own person, free markets, etc. That’s what makes it highly individualistic. You also brought up religion and atheism which is irrelevant.

>> No.18390377

>>18385210
HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.18390389

>>18389428
>t. butthurt mutt that knows nothing about china and doesn't understand his own country

>> No.18390412

>>18390389
Where the fuck do you think the whole bugman thing with chinks comes from? The whole reason they've become so powerful economically is because they brainwashed their citizens into being mindless cogs in the machine. Meanwhile in the US you have ideas like the American Dream which is all about obtaining a good life for yourself and your family

>> No.18390421

>>18390412
>bugman thing with chinks comes from
>unironically referencing a meme to support your argument

>brainwashed their citizens into being mindless cogs in the machine
you have no idea just how ignorant you are, everyone on china is an egoist striving to outcompete his fellow citizens

>American Dream
Completely irrelevant, this isn't the 60s

>> No.18390430

>>18390389
>>18390412
>>18390421
>in the US you have ideas like the American Dream
Not to mention everyone is trying to shill the idea of making your own business and going your own way - to try and beat the system. It's been this way for years, and you can see it in movies like Office Space, that reddit wall street board, or even /biz/.
>but muh twitter mobs
The average twitter user does not represent the average person. In 2016, half the population voted for Trump.

If you still don't believe me, look at documentaries comparing Chinese work ethics & beliefs vs. in the US. Shit like safety regulations and unions don't even exist in China.

>> No.18390437

>>18390430
Muh small business is complete bullshit and doesn't have any influence anymore in the US. You can literally find objective stats about this, US is controlled by mechanistic megacorps.
MAGA was a 100% populist movement, just like twitter mobs.
Bro, I am an american who spent years working in china, the fact that you need documentaries to form your beliefs just shows that I know much more than you.

>> No.18390464

>>18386749
>Are you going to suggest that Europeans did not do any of the things listed in that picture
Of course not, but saying 'wypipo bad' because of colonialism without ever mentioning the positives is just as, if not more dishonest.

>> No.18390497

>>18390464
I think its ridiculous how people run history through a modern lens. No civilization could possible come out as virtuous according to current social norms.

>> No.18390505
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>>18386417
>Greco-Romans aren't Western
>>18386417
>Greco-Romans aren't Western
>>18386417
>Greco-Romans

>> No.18390511

>>18386749
u dum