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18349767 No.18349767 [Reply] [Original]

Why was she so cruel?

>> No.18349778

Women are inherently cruel.

>> No.18349780

lol schoppenloppen got btfo'd by his own mum

>> No.18349781

>>18349767
Glad to know his mother put him in his place.

>> No.18349798

>>18349767
Imagine having a son who shows himself to be superior to other men, who is different from the rest, who is his own individual instead of being just a herd animal like the rest of men. And you resent him for this. You don't encourage this impulse in him. You don't help him to overcome mediocrity. You hate him for it. You would much like for him to be an average conformist man. You actively try to break his spirit. You're his mother.
Why are some women like this?
Wasn't the point that a large part of what made Alexander great was that his own mother believed in him and had visions of a great future? That she encouraged him to be his own? To become greater than other rulers? To become Alexander the Great?

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>>18349767

>> No.18349805

>>18349767
If she was a bad mother he wouldn't have become what je did

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>>18349778
This. Since childhood we've been fed the narrative that women are loving and sensitive angels, but any man with sufficient social experience will tell you that these whores are cruel, cynical and thoroughly sexual beasts.

>> No.18349818

>>18349798
>Why are some women like this?
Most women are pets for the society, and society encourages this.

>> No.18349845

>>18349818
I would understand women doing this in other contexts, trying to impose society views on others, being a talking head for mediocrity. But to do this to your own child? To your own flesh and blood? I would think that something like that would overcome society's programming.

>> No.18349846

>>18349767
Because she was a slut. I'm not even kidding. She just wanted to get away from her son and continue fucking. Look it up. It's no wonder that Schopenhauer's views on women ended up like they did.

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>>18349798
growing up with a single mother this hurts to read

>> No.18349872

>>18349845
any deviation from the norm, to the w*man's mind, is a negative one.

>> No.18349898

>>18349798
Big A's mother was also a batshit insane snakefucker. Really makes you think.

>> No.18349916

>>18349798
Mothers want their children to be happy and loved. They don't understand that some people don't want to be happy or loved, because that's all they ever want.

>> No.18349917

>>18349800

This happened to me when I was studying for final exams in high school. I wanted to go to college and my mother (my parents are poor) told me what do I need college for ? Why would I pursue higher education ? I disregarded what she said and I went on to college, getting on state-subsidized spots for 5 years (cause of good grades) + got paid study scholarship 2 years for having good grades, while holding a full time job. This helped me have more confidence and fight off my depression.

All because I didn't listen to my mother to not pursue college. She probably just wanted me to work at supermarket and that's all.

>> No.18349921

>>18349846
She liked Goethe

>> No.18349931

>>18349898
This. Poor Phillip.

>> No.18349946

>>18349931
>be me
>be Phil
>the greatest general who has ever lived
>find a strong female qt3.14
>marry her
>she fucks snakes
>she wants me to watch
>wtf.jpeg
>at least my son has conquered half of the world

>> No.18349947

>>18349917
are you hispanic?

>> No.18349951

>>18349946
>at lease """my""" son has conquered half of the world

>> No.18349956

>>18349798
imagine writing this out and thinking "yup it's based I'm posting it"

>> No.18349971

>>18349767
The story of Adam & Eve in the garden tells you everything you need to know about women.
>Eve was derived from one of Adam's ribs
>Eve is deceived by Satan, and it is through Eve's foolishness that Adam is deceived, because Adam naively trusted Eve
Isn't that how it always goes?
Women are reliant upon men for everything.
Women are short-sighted, gullible, emotional, undisciplined fools who are seemingly incapable of keeping the peace.
Women are treacherous and manipulative, despite being gullible and foolish themselves.
Men assume that women are innocent little angels and view women with unwarranted trust.
Women exploit the trust of men, and get us into trouble over and over and over again.
Even when it is blatantly obvious that a woman is responsible for a problem, blame is rarely assigned to the woman. Most men, at least nowadays, are spineless simps who think it is manly to lust after women and allow women to use their own lust as a tool to manipulate them.

>> No.18350049

>>18349947

No, caucasian, why ?

>> No.18350098

>>18349956
Yep, that's what I was doing while I was writing it.
Just thinking at the high number of (You)s I'm going to get and how everybody on this board will call my post "based".
You fucking retard.
I wrote it in a meme format because we're on a imageboard, but the subject is serious. Probably there are examples of both genders doing this to their children, but since OP posted that letter from Schopy's mother I thought we would talk about mothers, not fathers. Why are some mother like this? I say this sincerely, because I can't understand why would you want your own kid to be a mediocre individual with no personality, with no will of his own. I can understand this, if your kid was literally psychopath murderer that you would rather have him be a normal cattle, but I can't understand why mothers do this when their children diverge in a positive way. In Schopenhauer's case, he was a brilliant mind, a genius, a man who certainly influenced Western thought. Then why would you want him to be an average midly-pleasant man? Why not cherish his gift and encourage him to rise of above the herd? I mean if I had kid and I would see that he is different from other kids, that he questions, that he tries to make sense of things on his own, I would certainly encourage him. I would talk to him and try to understand him the best I can. I wouldn't want him to do what everybody else does or other people's children do, if I know that he wills something different for himself.

>> No.18350151

It's weird how people on 4chan are still allowed to talk about women, you should be required to demonstrate that you've at least interacted with a topic that you pretend to understand

>> No.18350226

>>18349767
Maybe he was just an obnoxious fucking loser, which is a requirement if a person is going to dedicate their lives to pontificating.

>> No.18350249

>>18349971
rancid opinion

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>>18350249
>rancid opinion

>> No.18350270

I love my mum but I see some of this trait in her sometimes, and some of my friends have it really bad in theirs, but mums are sometimes very insistent that their sons don't essentially outgrow them to the point that they are irrelevant. As a result, they kind of want to keep their sons in a stasis. Combine with that with the general trait of women not wanting their boyfriends/husbands/sons to go outside the norm, because they don't want them to be weird, and then lower their status in women's eyes, and you get a woman like Schopenahauer's mom.

Doesn't really mean that you shoudl hate women or your mother at all. Just remember in the decisions of whether to step forth into the great unknown, with risks, don't listen to women.

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>>18350151
i've stuck my penis inside four females and had the opportunity to do so more times, i know what i'm talking about

>> No.18350298

>>18350267
cope

>> No.18350418

>>18349956
lmao this made me laugh too hard

>> No.18350518

>>18349864
Don't worry anon, I'm here and I've experienced the same thing, and I'm all the stronger for it.

lmao

>> No.18350570

>>18349798
I liked the Alexander reference.
Maybe shopenhauers mother felt like he was too much focused on hus thoughts. Humans want to spread their genes. Spreading ideas is a nice extra and even for some people like her son the most valuable thing but his mother maybe jusz wanted him to quit beeing a smartass and start charming some ladies.
Alexanders mom had many reasons to support him on top of a very emotional and partly dangerous backstory. Someone who conquers the world fucks all the women he wants and he kinda did even tho his known offsprings were murdered out of fear by the people in charge after his death, someone who writes about philosophy all day and has the look of an diseased owl might not b what you would call a womanizer.

>> No.18350575

>>18349818
>incel detected

>> No.18350585

>>18350249
>>18350267
You both have a point.
First part of the post rancid second part kinda true.
Also i laughed at your little wojak and cope battle. Good work anons

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>Johanna was an abusive wife to his father and an abusive mother to him. She even threw Schopenhauer down a flight of stairs once when he talked back to her. Also, Schopenhauer’s father (whom he was very close with) was believed to have committed suicide when Schopenhauer was seventeen and it has always been a rumor that Johanna Schopenhauer was a contributing factor to his suicide. After her wife died, Johana left for Weimar to join the free love movement and follow her dreams of becoming a writer, leaving Schopenhauer behind. And when Schopenhauer later wanted to move to Weimar to pursue philosophy, she desperately tried to convince him not to move to Weimar, saying she couldn’t stand to be around him.

>> No.18350628

>>18349798
>Some women
Anon, I, ...

>> No.18350632

>>18350518
>lmao

delet

>> No.18350634

>>18350575
Out of this board,now. This is not an argument. Please kys niggerfemoidcel.

>> No.18350637

>>18349971
Guys this is a bot. They are posting each sentence as a line. Wtf

>> No.18350645

>>18350098
bro I'm not reading your schizo incel word spaghetti

>> No.18350649

>>18350634
Kek you are so mad
Keep posting your delusions

>> No.18350676

>>18349767
Women only like in a way of validating themselves. Having sex with powerful men makes them feel special, birthing poweful men also does this in a way. However Johanna's idea of what a poweful man is (as is all women's) is that of being able to manipulate social interactions in your favor, to have clout. Of course someone like Schopenhauer, who was interested in the study of the mind and world for it's own merit, would be seen by her (and other women), as a waste of time and weakness.

>> No.18350810

>>18350676
/thread
intersting sight anon

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>>18349767
All women are whores, including your mom and mine.

>> No.18351276

>>18350098
>that he is different from other kids, that he questions, that he tries to make sense of things on his own
These kids grow up to be failures most of the times, and especially in their time. In fact, Schopenhauer was by all means a failure as a young man. It's only because society changed to adapt to men like him, more as a coincidence in the shadows of a larger trend, that he found an audience for his writings in later life.
Meanwhile you are Schopenhauer's mother. You have a frustrated, shut-in, pessimistic son, instead of one that is sociable and agreeable, in a time where nepotism and influence are the bedrocks for the survival of the businesses that the family has. A time when school grades are much less important than they are today in securing your future, due to it still being a pre bureaucratic world. A time when being detached from society casts you under terrible suspicion and stigma.
So, what do you do? Let your son fall down this path?
Mothers always seek the general best for their kids. For Schopenhauers mother to let him keep his ways is taking a tremendous gamble involving the entire future of society. Women dont make those gambles. They live for the present, never past or future. In that time, it would be unthinkable for example to let your firstborn son become a doctor, instead of a lawyer or a businessman. Nowadays, how many mothers incessantly and crazily push down their sons throats the path of Sculapius?

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>>18351276
In short, yes, she might have wanted him to seek the path of an ordinary, common, comfortable life. But seeing as all the signs of the time meant that a person like him was destined to fail big and become someone like pic related, you cant judge her much.

>> No.18351322

>>18349917
This. At some point, you have to become your own person. You can't have your mother dictate what you do and what you don't do. You are a man, so be a man.

>> No.18351392

>>18351276
You are making many mistaken assumptions anon. After his father's death, Schopenhauer decided to leave school and run the family's business, and he was in fact doing well. But he was bored with it and wanted to attend university, he wrote a letter to his mother about it, who was just in Weimar larping as an intellectual socialite hostess. She in fact was the one who encouraged him to leave business and attend university.

Where the tension between them comes in, is that Johanna at the time was a semi successful author of cheap romances and thought very highly of herself. Arthur, as we know, also thought very highly of himself from an early age. What made Johanna seethe was Arthur's unwarranted confidence (bordering on arrogance) without having anything tangible to show for it. This is best seen in this interaction:
>Unfortunately, the published dissertation earned, at best, lukewarm reviews.3 Indeed, the most stinging might have come from the young man’s mother, who asked sarcastically whether his book [The Fourfold Roots of the Principle of Sufficient Reason] was for pharmacists. Schopenhauer retorted that his work would still find readers when not even a single copy of her writings could be found in a junk yard. Undaunted, Johanna Schopenhauer spat back, ‘Of yours the entire printing will still be available’.
As you can see, she was quite nasty in this imagined rivalry between them. One time Goethe was impressed by young Arthur's intellect, saying that by proper grooming he could become a literary genius, and she said something like "only one person in each family could be a genius" (referring to herself). She even went as far as badmouthing Arthur to Goethe, and was one of the reasons the relationship between Schopenhauer and Goethe worsened. She really wasn't the type of woman I would have liked to have as a mother desu.

>> No.18351415

>>18351392
Don't forget that she tried to kill him because his bantz were too good.

>> No.18351456

>>18351415
I'm not aware of that particular incident, but one thing I see in Schopenhauer threads is that people project onto him the picture of an awkward solitary man, but despite the pessimistic picture we might get from his writings, he was by means described as a witty and charming conversationalist. Don't forget he frequently attended aristocratic circles.

>> No.18351471

>>18351456
Specifically, it was right after the quote in the OP. Schope responded that history would only remember her as his mother, and she flew into a rage and threw him down a flight of stairs.

>> No.18351476

>>18351471
Damn, that is most extremely based. The person who made the image conveniently forgot to include his response. Kek

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>writes an extensive and detailed guide on how to be a master troll purely for his own amusement

truly a man ahead of his time

>> No.18351515

>>18349921
based

>> No.18351532

>>18351515
>>18349921
She liked Goethe, but Goethe liked little Arthur and wanted to take him under his own wing because he was smart.

Johanna then sabotaged the budding mentorship out of petty jealousy.

>> No.18351570

>>18351532
kek

>> No.18351580

>>18351322

Checked

>> No.18351618

>>18349767
People are mad but Johanna was right.

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>>18349798
My mom is like that and at one point she collapsed in her bitching at me when she said "Son I don't just bitch at you for the sake of bitching at you there's a reason." My cousin accompanied me for errands and insisted on her words almost as infallible truth. I told him that women are incapable of going a day without the exercise of bitching for the sake of being a bitch. Just because that is nature.
Later that day her errands fell apart as I had told her plans were shit from the start and she said, "Okay now listen to me: never listen to me again".
So I listened to her. I am now a good boy because I'm that irascible son of bitch. Do what your mom wishes she could tell you to do, not what she stupidly does tell you to do. If her wishes are still stupid do what your mom should wish she could wish for. Coldly disregarding women is the best way to warmly regard women.

>> No.18351663

>>18349798
The superior son is a genius and captures ought and is at a far greater aperture and intensity than any institution or writ can peg down. Woman is only capable of degrees in accuracy of said writ and thinks herself a genius when accurately representing the consensus of finalized formalized masculine authority. When man is above that like a painter with an empty canvas, woman is screeching about the past canvas in completion and will tear down the artist studio in blind rage.
I forgot where the metaphor starts because my art studio got torn down in the blind rage of several femoids.

>> No.18351674

>>18349798
Alexander's mom was the Greek equivalent of a Tiger mother.

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>>18350613
Schopey, yo Mom's a hoe
https://youtu.be/bsdQeAGakL0
Jolly Heretic's ongoing theme of arguments is that the head school girl always has the bulk of any given institution defer to her. So as much of a mean hoe Schopeys mom was that means 90% of society would naturally think her the genius and morally infallible powerhouse.

>> No.18351732

>>18350676
If Schopey was like Freud or Bernays or GB Shaw Johanna would have been done all over him. Thank God he wasn't. History has too few miserable mad scientist looking bastards like him.

>> No.18351757

>>18349815
>but any man with sufficient social experience
Such as 4chan addicts

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>>18351757
The anthologies of great Western thinkers might as well be the Expanded Unabridged Endless Volumes of Disrespecting Women:
Article 69 by Aristotle on the Femoid as a Semen Demon

>> No.18351841

>>18351635
This guy gets it.

>> No.18351863

>>18351635
Ya giga based

>> No.18351883

>>18349815
It’s really disappointing once you realize it.
The whole “romantic walks on the beach” type stereotype about what women want is a lie. That is what MEN want. Women want to be slapped around and to go out and flirt with men for free drinks while you stay at home

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>>18351476
>>18351276
>>18349781
>>18349956
>>18350151
>>18350226
>>18350249
>>18350298
>>18350575
>>18350649
Way to expose yourself as bugmen.

Schop WAS special in a good way compared to normalfags, who indulge in the rat race purely for the extrinsicness of material gains; He perfectly adapted Buddhist normatives of suffering and ephemeral, meaningless joy to a Kantian paradigm, but for his suffering under his mother, a prototypical example of irascible toxic femininity, and of the sort of unfettered narcissism cultivated by the social epidemic of business-like social circles, combined with his troubles born from the rebuke of the directives of his society, he faced a great deal of struggle. And even then eventually became socioeconomically functional enough to carry his own burdens.

The irony is that this Anti-Fragility attrition is precisely what molded Schop into the philosophical genius he went down in history as, his coddled and unthinking mom, although more materially successful, went down in history as little more than a cunt who LARPed as an intellectual, spouting fake and harmless trite, and she remained a spiritually miserable narcissist unable to love her son for who he is, constantly sabotaging him out of petty resentment, due to the lack of material gain and primal satisfaction, the satisfaction of a powerful and high Dark Triad scoring male, which could make her lizard brain tingle. She like so many females was always the obnoxious loser, the pontificator of narcissism.

>>18351757
I became a 4channer partially because of growing to hate real life interaction with NPCs, i still cultivate my mind and body regardless, cope harder normalfag, you're the real loser for letting oversocialization tell you what to do.

>i-i-INCEL
Not an argument

>> No.18351896

>>18349767
>if you weren’t less like you, you would only be ridiculous, but thus as you are, you are highly annoying

I might be reading this wrong, but this seems to be qualification by his mum stating that he does have talent and brains, he doesn’t come across as a fool, but it would be nice if he stopped acting like annoying

The last sentence seems like reluctant compliment

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>>18351883
Verily
Finding out what women want is to defile the song bird in your gentlemanly heart and to feed the horny gorilla.

>> No.18351905

>>18351890
>blah blah blah
You fags sure are long-winded. No one cares enough about your special snowflake opinions to read all that shit. Learn some humility.

>> No.18351929

>>18351905
It's not my fault you're a zoomer with an attention span of 5 seconds

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>>18349778
>>18349815
>>18349872
>>18349971
>>18350628
>>18350676
>>18350857
>>18351635
>>18351663
>>18351819

>all women are x, y, z

Women are human beings subject to the same world as men.
They can be extraordinarily cruel and exceedingly kind. They differ greatly in opinion and disposition.
They struggle with good and evil, just as men do, between right and wrong.

Some women are physically and emotionally abusive, they are selfish and evil. They are spiteful, lazy, neurotic, and full of hate and jealousy. They are foolish, greedy, and immoral.

Some women are heroic, and slave away in hospitals and schools for low wages only because they wish to make a positive difference in the lives of other people and their community.
They love their family dearly, and sacrifice endlessly for them. They care deeply about the feelings of others.

Women do have a different way of living out the good or evil they wish to inflict upon the world, of that there is no doubt, it can be plainly observed. But it can also be plainly seen that they are not all the same, or all bad.

You probably had a woman be very awful to you at some point in your life, or maybe you had a lot of them be awful to you. But the truth is that they are human beings, and to hate all women is identical to a woman who has had bad experiences with men and hates all men, and believes they are all the same.

>> No.18351934

>>18351905
>T. Affeminate Brainlet

>> No.18351944

>>18351931
Reddit moment

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>>18351931
The woman who is exceptional to all the exhaustive list of complaints we have shown today and all yesteryears is the woman hated most by women and ignored most by coomers.

>> No.18351952

>>18351905
>>18351929
won't =/= can't
Like I said, your takes on life are not nearly interesting enough for people to bother with. Pull your head out of your ass and develop some self-awareness.

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>>18351944
>you're right but I can't admit that so I'll just reply with an epic may may

>> No.18351963

>>18351931
>But the truth is that they are human beings
Peak midwit answer. Unironically, go back.

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>>18351949
The """"Great"""" Men didn't make it, brehs

>> No.18351969

>>18351890
I (the first poster you replied) was complimenting Schop though, kek. Aside that I mostly agree.

>> No.18351980

>>18351952
Spoken like a true zoomer who doesn't want to take his head off his ass and listen to anyone who disagrees with him

>> No.18351981

>>18351931
This is indeed true, though I can't help but think that contemporary culture corrupts women far more easily than it corrupts men

>> No.18351992

>>18351980
>take his head off his ass
based ESL poster

>> No.18351994

>>18351931
Too nuanced for 4chan, just choose an oversimplified opinion and spam it like the rest of us

>> No.18351995

>>18349767
womyn are innately cruel to men who bend the knee. there is a reason why men collectively decided for the vast majority of human existence to ensure womyn didn't get the authority they own now.

>> No.18352029

>>18351931
Biology is real

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>>18351994
But it is a flawed and underexamined clunky premise. It is a blind mirror. It isn't the nuanced portrait. Women precisely do not differ in opinion to any significant degree. Any existing awareness to disagreement is only open to masculine leadership to pry open through thoroughly bonded hardship. Without men guiding in such contention, they necessarily defer to the consensus of the lowest common denominator as this is maternal forgiveness in gracious action. Yes honey it's okay that you shit the bed. Mommy loves you. Daddy won't spank you senseless today. It is this hysterical suckling for fear of sharp masculine pruning that is the eternal enmity.
Man is more likely to be genius or fool to such a degree that men cannot exist without competition. Females exist in such similarity that competition is not even part of the vocabulary but equity in participation is the expected horizontal norm.

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>>18349767

>> No.18352051

>>18352029
Are you a biologist?

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>>18352029
>>18352040
Men and women are far more similar than different in temperament.

>t. worked with the raw data on the subject and produced this image.

>> No.18352107

>>18352077
Interesting and perhaps comforting, but is there a bibliography for this data?

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>>18352077
Trailers also trail behind obstructively. Similarity is glue. The difference is leadership. Agreeableness and Neuroticism are the jackknifes.

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>>18352114
Similarity is the hitch*

>> No.18352148

>>18352051
Are you a woman?
No, and you never will be.
Dilate

>> No.18352153

>>18350585
>Also i laughed at your little wojak and cope battle. Good work anons
no you didn't don't encourage them.

>>18351931
incels will rage about this truth.

>> No.18352155

The truth hurts, schop.

>> No.18352174

>>18350249
Sicut Roasteus Non
Virgo Max
Chaddeus Domini
Papal Bull 1669, April 20th

>> No.18352182

>>18352107
datasource: https://github.com/automoto/big-five-data

>>18352114
I'm not claiming there aren't important and mathematically significant temperamental differences between men and women.
What I am saying is that we are similar enough to prove that women aren't all good or evil people.
These differences only mean that they live out their benevolence or malevolence in different ways, but they have no proclivity to one or the other.

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>>18352148
>defensive tantrum
I'll take that as a no.

>> No.18352215

>>18352114
forgot to mention this here >>18352182 but agreeableness is an important place where men and women differ. But, this data would support the conclusion that women are actually nicer than men. High agreeableness means you value the social harmony and feelings of others such that you don't wish to disturb it. It means they care about how others feel.

Also, with neuroticism the big thing is not the difference in means, but the very large standard deviation shared by men and women. Because of this large standard deviation, people are all over the place with neuroticism, and both men and women have a large number of their population occupying both the high and low ends of the spectrum.

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>>18352182
What I'm saying is that without man as the pulling force determining almost all of a woman's life force or nerve force in heart mind and soul means she will be inanimate like a detached loaded trailer in the rain. Knowledge creation is the man's job and knowledge replication is the woman's job with mastery of nurture and softening. Mother Goose has many golden eggs. Evil begins when this link sways in painful bumps. Such is the evil of the equality meme. It is nothing but trailing into ditches as if we can go together all paths the same ways.
I really like this truck metaphor I just came up with. You give girls truck toys and they call it Mommy truck and daughter truck. You give a boy a Barbie and suddenly mangled barbie is doing karate.

>> No.18352231

>>18352182
>What I am saying is that we are similar enough to prove that women aren't all good or evil people.
I agree but bullying women is fun, ok

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>>18351931
Women are not inherently narcissistic, conniving and oversocialized, but it is our atomization, mental and spiritual weakness as men, who allow plutocratic grifters to bend the world to their will, to shape our culture, our beliefs, our way of perceiving the world, that, that is which makes them filled with enmity towards growth, individuality and true diversity.

The failings of women are the failings of men who allowed evil to rule the world.

>> No.18352307

>>18352182
The difference is incentive structure. To give a parallel example, leftists are somewhat shadowboxing with Fortune 500 CEOs’ “disregard for the environment.” CEOs are not in control of the company - stockholders are, and they want 7% return that quarter or you, the CEO, get fired. This leads to cutting corners and acceptance of negative externalities that boost Q3 performance.
It’s much the same with women - while they may not have natures that significant differ from mens’, their ability to secure a comfortable life is in large part determined by their ability to tether themselves to a successful man. This tethering necessitates the behavior we are now considering - I see it when my mother continually tries to dissuade my father from pursuing his PhD in Theology. He now generates only a small fraction of the wealth he would otherwise, and tactics are very clearly deployed by my mother to quash such inconveniences. But, not to overstate the situation, my mother seems to not care that her material considerations are dragging my father away from the divine. This is an issue for us, as many of us will one day face such a dilemma.

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>>18352250
Pretty much what Ann Douglas argues in this book: the Feminization of American Culture.
The Church will NOT keep you safe. The Church will skulk for slimy subversion while the men are away at work. All this "soften your heart" theology is precisely how the West was neutered through the Protestant hold outs when the Catholics were already neutered. Alex Linder reads and comments on this on Vanguard Audiobooks. Alex Linder provides the insight Ann Douglas can't nor could any preist or believer. Basically the game was all rigged from the start. Woman reads a book? Sorry the publisher is basically selling you Twilight Harry Potter brain manure. The old temples of true natural religion are lost and forgotten in the West though they thrive in our enemy states.

>> No.18352333

>>18349916
This, it comes down to a womans(and most normies) social instinct being much stronger than their intellectual instinct with the creative genuis being the exact opposite with a higher intellectual instinct than social instinct.

History has shown these two to be irreconcilable amongst eachother with the rare case of the genuis rising to a powerful position above and in control of the normie. Any sane society already has the female/male aspect of this well in check.

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>>18349916
Mom's understanding of happy and loved is in the form and scope of a handout.
Isn't that being a home maker?
But she can't see beyond the mailbox and look at the monsters. The monsters in the woods and the concrete jungle to whom I want to wage war. My war. Endless war. Restless striving. That is manly happiness and victory is love and love is victory. But woman always wants a way out of striving and ambition. Never can she cheer on more than a rehearsed game than a true unscripted wild fight of your life.

>> No.18352619

>>18352317
any more books like that

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>>18349815
>these whores are cruel, cynical and thoroughly sexual beasts.
And that is why I fucking love them.
You will never know true release until you've thoroughly hatefucked a roastie.

>> No.18352646

>>18352619

Cosmotheistchurch.org/shop
https://www.alexlinder.com/audiobooks.html

Alex Linders website is clunky and I often have to search for the book I want in the Vanguard News Forum linked here in. Great use of time. Weight off my shoulders from all the Npc frustrations otherwise.

>> No.18352649

>>18351931
Truly based, if only because of the underage b& seethe this is generating

>> No.18352666

>>18352619
Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin by Dietrich Eckhart
The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E Michael Jones
Imperium by Francis Yockey

Very enjoyable reads and listens. These are my favorites.

>> No.18352881

>>18349767
She's just hating cause she ain't him. She's just bitter lol.

>>18349780
Lowest IQ take possible.

>> No.18352946

>>18351931
>Ignore the general trend because the outlier exists!

>> No.18353007

>>18351392
>tfw you're seething that your high IQ son who you can't even understand will have his works live on for centuries while your dumb porn novels for women will be forgotten in a few years.

>> No.18353047

>>18350613
Wow so his mother was a feminist whore. Its like we already knew.

>> No.18353070

>>18349815
They literally have fun bags on their chest and can orgasm from just being touched and whispered too. Imagine if having someone suck on your nipple was a profound sexual experience.

>> No.18353229

>>18351883
I hate w*men so fucking much bros

>> No.18353252

>>18351883
The bad women want that, anon.

There are good women out there. At least, RELATIVELY good. You can see a woman like Butterfly, for instance, she wants to be forced into it a little bit, but she doesn't just go for anyone.

That's the point. Is that there has to be some kind of emotional connection, no woman is as materialistic as a man in that way :3. Look, clearly to some degree they like to be roughed a little bit, but in the grand scheme of things most women really don't just go for whoever has the most money. You have GOT to have some common interest, or at least feign interest. :3

>> No.18353275

>>18353252
>The bad women
>implying there are good women
you been brainwashed by the feminazis bro
don't be a beta cuck soiboy numale simp
take the redpill instead and become a true alpha

>> No.18353286

>>18351931

oh fuck an anime protagonist everyone run for ye lives

>> No.18353309

>>18353275
I think you can't be over the age of 21 :3

>> No.18353311

>>18353286
>relates everything to his chinese cartoons
What a shock, yet another woman-hater outs himself as an autistic man-child.

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>>18353286
You must be at least this beautiful to be an anime protagonist

>> No.18353478

>>18351931
>Women are human beings
No

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18353586

I hate women so much it's unreal

>> No.18353610

>>18353586
inshallah

>> No.18353907

>>18353311

please don't talkjutsu me i will never repeat my evil doings again

>> No.18354141

>>18352077
big 5 is psuedo science

>> No.18354210

>>18351994
>Implying "Women are human beings too!" isn't an oversimplified and overused opinion.

>> No.18354247

>>18353252
i want to believe he is not right, but in the end we all know he is
>Women want to be slapped around and to go out and flirt with men for free drinks while you stay at home
this is basically the truth
best to stick to poetry and fiction and leave normies to their business

>> No.18354263

>>18349864
I know how it is, anon. Single mothers can destroy their sons permanently.

>> No.18354349

>>18352042
Beethoven was weird because he was beat as a child lol not because he was trying to prove his mom wrong.

>> No.18354353

>>18351890
>calls others bugmen
>doesnt immediately shrug Schoppy off for embracing budhist heresies

>> No.18354384

>>18351392
Anon, only now have I read your reply. Thank you for this insight. I may have projected my own relationship with my mother into what i had thought was their case, but apparently there were many more shades. The bit where she thinks of herself as a genius truly is sad and ugly (and absolutely destroys what Ive said of her being a comely and unambitious woman who merely wants what society deems the best for her son). That bit truly reveals a wicked narcissim. Maybe a bit of evolutionary psychology at play, wanting to keep your son in the shadows so that hell never abandon you, who are more famous.

>> No.18354426

>>18354349
>because he was trying to prove his mom wrong
That's not at all what the post says you absolute retard

>> No.18354448

he was probably an annoying cunt. what more is there to say?

>>18349798
baseless assumptions; see the line above.

>> No.18354495

>>18349815
They also don't actuaĺly look that good without their makeup.

>> No.18354543

Fuck Shoppy lmao. Whiny faggot.

>> No.18354551

>>18349767
>super-cleverness
he was too smart for his own good

>> No.18354577

>>18354141
Big 5 and G factor/IQ
The only measurements that keep forming themselves across all studies done and overshadowing literally everything all other social science.

So among scientists, nice.

>> No.18355031

>>18354577
>The only measurements that keep forming themselves across all studies done
Big 5 is mostly used on WEIRD people, and in non-WEIRD people it doesn't replicate.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104167/
IQ is good. Big 5 not so much.
https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2020/12/24/just-as-good-alternatives-to-big-five-theories-of-personality/

>> No.18355924

>>18351931
>human beings
That's enough out of you

>> No.18356253

>>18349767
Because she was right

>> No.18356283

>>18349798
>Imagine having a son who shows himself to be superior to other men, who is different from the rest, who is his own individual instead of being just a herd animal like the rest of men.

Schopenhaur is a fucking idiot and the epitome of incel rage. His mother correctly deduced that and told him to take it down a notch.

>> No.18356402

>>18356283
>Einstein says Schopenhauer is a genius and a "continual consolation"
>Seething anon on /lit/, likely a femcel or a tranny, says he is an idiot incel
Kek I really don't know who to believe!

>> No.18356623

>>18349780
How do you figure?
He is immortalized and considered one of the greatest minds in human history while she is literally who or merely known as Schopenphauer's mom.

>> No.18358527

>>18356402
>likely a femcel or a tranny
>Kek
holy shit imagine being you lmao

>> No.18358943

>>18349815
t. incel

>> No.18359027

>>18349767
School was a faggot if she were my mom I would've bantered and trolled her to death

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>>18349798

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>>18351931

>> No.18360046

>>18349767
W-Why Mommy, all I wanted was love.

>> No.18360110

>>18351931
show us your tits

>> No.18360207

>>18360110
...he carefully typed with his non-dominant hand, thimble-like penis tweezed between the first two fingers of the other. His tongue darted out, lizard-like, to wipe the beads of sweat from his scraggly almost-mustache. With a phlegmy chuckle he clicked Post.

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>>18349778
>>18349780

Women's thinking is not to be taken seriously because their entire worldview/power system is aligned by fitting in socially and not rocking the boat too much. You will notice this on a 4chan screencap on how to identify women's writing style as being more passive and socially shaming people and that how its almost impossible to distinguish between swedes and women on the internet.

Shes basically complaining that her son is too much a shit distruber and should settle down with his ideas so that he is more liked.

In essense she has normie psychology. Women are fucking stupid

>> No.18360585

>>18349917
Your mom was right and trying to keep you from scamming yourself. If you can't reliably self-educate then all college is going to do is steal a ton of money from you in exchange for propaganda and lazy instruction.

>> No.18360592

all women are whores

>> No.18360668

some parents view children as their possessions. when a kid grows up and the parent realizes he or she is not turning out how they want, they are cruel because they envisioned that their posession would develop their specific way (the "right way"). they forget that children become their own people, different from what they might have imagined. the reality clashes with the ideal in a way some can't handle.

Their only solution is to coldly criticize and hurt their children's feelings in hopes of erasing their "flaws" (lol personality), trying to mold them in the way they prefer. In other words,"If you were less like you, you would only be ridiculous, but thus you are, you are highly annoying."

This sounds like she's just bashing him for being who he is. Lol. Lmao.

>> No.18360758

>>18360592
No, you.

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>>18360533
>women and swedes are indistinguishable on the internet
lmao fuckin kek
>>18355031
Ok you BTFO the big 5 for me dawg

>> No.18361571

>>18349971
>Men assume that women are innocent little angels and view women with unwarranted trust
>Women are short-sighted, gullible, emotional, undisciplined fools
So by your logic men are emotional and gullible.

>> No.18361984

>>18351392
>Schopenhauer retorted that his work would still find readers when not even a single copy of her writings could be found in a junk yard

holy based