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18299539 No.18299539 [Reply] [Original]

>decide to re-read Harry Potter, haven't done so since I was in middle school
>startled by the crudity of the narration and the graceless of the transitions
>the crudity of it all gives the impression it was written by a novice
>I'm a better writer than the richest novelist to ever live
Nothing has alienated me from the ambition of being a writer quite like this.

>> No.18299541

>>18299539
gracelessness*
fucking auto correct
GREAT GOD DAMN IT NOW MY THREAD IS RUINED FOREVER
F
U
C
K

>> No.18299612

>>18299541
:D but if someone so sux can do it how can you not be supper suksessful @ it? You shuld be moar motiv8ed thin evar!!!

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>>18299539
It's a kid's book. It has to be simple. I wrote a kid's book looking for a more accurate portrayal of Greek myth. Really simple. Low number of words used, like Harry Potter.

My dad was so happy I did something other than neet that he gave it to a punisher, who of course didn't give any helpful feed back aside from saying the Zeus transforming into a frog rape scene to start was "horrendous" (it was written at grade level and not too graphic).

Only souless shit is allowed these days. No real writer should write.

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>>18299785
>I wrote a children's book
>The rape scene

>> No.18299808

>>18299539
>I'm a better writer than the richest novelist to ever live
I bet you are.

>> No.18299819

>>18299539
I know almost nothing about Harry Potter, but isn't that the point? That they're meant to be begun by young children, and as the protagonist ages (along with the reader), the complexity also increases (along with subject matter)?

Or is it the same level all the way through?

>> No.18299863

>>18299819
>Or is it the same level all the way through?
No, the prose, narratives, and themes all get more sophisticated.

>> No.18300056

>>18299539
Its a book for kids you fucking tard, its not deep literature.

>> No.18300426

>>18299539
your writing is awful.

>> No.18300495

>>18299807
I don't see the issue. My grand-ma used to read me stories of old, including Zeus fucking everything with boobs and how Poseidon's son was a psycho who tortured travellers, and I turned out just fine.

>> No.18300511

>>18299785
>punisher

Kek

>> No.18300540

>>18299863
Harry Potter has themes?

>> No.18300548

>>18299808
Many great artists died in poverty you absolute fag. Many who didn't were already wealthy or part of the oligarchy. Commercial success is nothing.

>> No.18300551

>>18300426
Mark each sentence

>> No.18300586

>>18299539
>>I'm a better writer than the richest novelist to ever live
No you arent. Rowling is not a great writer, but she's better than Stephen King. And she's a better writer than any greentexter

>> No.18300672

>>18300551
first of all, you weren't startled. no one is startled by "crude narration". you were perhaps surprised because you expected better.
then you use crudity twice in a row when you could just have written "it gives the impression of being written by a novice". we already know you thought it was crude, you didn't have to repeat it.

>> No.18301396

>>18299785
>The frog rape scene

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>>18299785
>This whole post

>> No.18301407

>>18299807
I got a pretty good laugh out of that.

>> No.18301411

>>18299539
>>I'm a better writer than the richest novelist to ever live
post your work, coward

>> No.18301419

>>18299807
>no country for old men

>> No.18301452

>>18300540
Harry Potter is garbage but you have to be blind to not notice how "RACISM IS BAD" is scrawled across every page of the last half of the series, in blood.

>> No.18301499

>>18299539
The story follows the archetypal hero's journey in a new way that isn't trope fantasy and you are focused on the prose that was written for children.

>> No.18301706

>>18300548
>Commercial success is nothing
Tell it to me again when you're unable to pay your rent and get kicked out of your home.
Tell it to me again when you're ill and can't afford a doctor.
Tell it to me again when people make fun of you because you're a broken loser who can't get anything done in their opinion.
Bullshit like that can only come from a spoiled college brat who didn't work a single day in his life. If you're not commercially succesful you get yourself a real job. And if you have a real job, your time for writting is very limited. Simple as that.

>> No.18301763

>>18299539
>>18300551
Your first line should be split up by a semicolon. 'Crudity' makes you sounds like a pseud when words like 'crudeness,' 'inelegance,', and 'primitivity' exist. Give a sample of your writing if you are so good; I'm not buying it.

>> No.18301802

>>18299785
>writing a kids book
>rape scene
>only soulless shit is allowed these days

How the fuck is a rape scene soulful? Jesus fuck anon are you retarded or autistic or soemthing?

>> No.18301810

>>18299539
>>I'm a better writer than the richest novelist to ever live
>makes this claim
>posts no writing

Enlighten me, I do not believe you. Your claim is dubious, and mostly likely a lie

>> No.18301832

>>18299785
AHAHAHAH

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>>18299785
>the frog rape scene

>> No.18302027
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>>18299785
>>18299807
>>18301396
>>18301802
>>18301832
>>18301974
How fucking dare you respond to me like that you puritan twats. I wake up and have this thread still open and see this?

Yes, there was a rape scene. Zeus raping is how many heros were born. I invented a new hero, Pepeius, who could be inserted into multiple myths to make them fun for kids.

Part of this meant keeping the stories fully true to the original, because the originals are reflections of Jungian archetypes, they are tied deeply to the nature of human reality.

It wasn't graphic. It mentions how Zeus saw the hero's mom at a festival and tried to court her but was rebuffed by her and her mom when he was in the guise of a man. One day by a pond he comes to her as a frog and tries to ask her out again. She plays hide the holes to try to get more out of her, like God promises. It's a short little passage where he frog hops he to the ground and hops on her stomach until she faints. Then Zeus "finds his pleasure," and "fills her with seed." She wakes up alone by the pond, injured, but ok otherwise. Then the story goes on. I actually censored a lot of the other myths.

So fuck you. I might be a neet who lived of his parents and smokes weed and plays vidya all day (really just post on /v/ about vidya) but I actually went to really good schools that my dad went to and studied the classics. I know their worth. People want to water them down and ruin them.

I'm probably a neet because Western civilization and elan vital was kept from me. I wanted to help others like me, and I did do through a literary work that I stand by.

Now I realize the world is run by souless pseuds. I thought people here would see it, but clearly not.

>> No.18302071

>>18302027
Jesus Christ that's a lot to unpack

>> No.18302085

>>18302027
Post excerpts of the book

>> No.18302120

>>18299539
>crudity
Instead realize the lesson in it. You can spend your life stuck in perfecting that one sentence that will never be good enough, graceful enough, well-written enough
Or you can get your ideas down on paper and out there so people might love it
And the only reason you are putting down Rowling is that people love it. Otherwise you would not even know of her

>> No.18302132

>>18299785
>My dad was so happy
>he gave it to a punisher
>>18302027
Dude, you are awesome

>> No.18302282

>>18302027
>I'm probably a neet because Western civilization and elan vital was kept from me.
Ah yes, surely its somebody else's fault that you got a useless degree and do nothing but smoke pot at your parents house and shitpost on /v/.
Stop being a pathetic fag and do something with your life that isn't writing children's books with rape scenes.

>> No.18302416

>>18301499
Is this a joke? HP is trope incarnate.
>hurr durr it's archetypical
>but it's not tropish!
this is a contradiction

>> No.18302420

>>18302027
Did you ever consider a career as a hot dog vendor?

>> No.18302592

>>18302416
Yeah but it's soulful (not in that rape retard way).
It's not that well written (but it's aimed at kids so of course),but it defintly has soul, that's why it's so powerful as a brand.

>> No.18302619

>>18302592
Anything can be popular with the proper promotion, it isn't indicative of anything beyond financial success.

>> No.18302628

>>18299785
It’s a kids book but it is read and re-read mainly by adults

>> No.18302638

>>18301452
Huh?

>> No.18302652

>>18299539
>I'm a good writer
>uses 'crudity' two sentences in a row
ngmi

>> No.18302669

>>18302027
Self publish your books. Please. I shall buy them. Well, maybe omit the "filled her with seed," part. That's a bit much for a children's book.

>> No.18302693

>>18300551
Your post reads like an ESLfag trying to brag about how good his English is. Sometimes simpler is better, especially in writing when you've yet to fully understand a language

>> No.18302694

>>18302652
>my arbitrary rules
Generic thinking is generic.

>> No.18302701

>>18302027
>people are replying to this obvious bait seriously
the whole site's quality has taken a nosedive over the years

>> No.18302707

>>18302652
First thing I noticed as well. What a failure.

>> No.18302748

>>18302707
What's worse is that he doesn't have anything to say other than "it's shit". Which is okay, but he's being dishonest and trying to dress it up using words like 'crudity' which he believes are impressive

>> No.18302772

>>18302652
he didn't say he was a good writer
he said he was better than Rowling, which is not a high bar

>> No.18302784

>>18302628
>It’s a kids book but it is read and re-read mainly by adults
this says a lot about our society

>> No.18302786

>>18302772
Congratulations anon, you have some speck of reading comprehension, which is more than can be said for rest of the drooling retards itt.

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>>18301763
>suggests people use semi-colons
>thinks he's in any position to lecture on writing or style

>> No.18302796

>>18302772
Yeah he probably is better than Rowling but it was implied that he is a good writer.
>>18302786
>you have some speck of reading comprehension
cruditybro confirmed ESL

>> No.18302824

>>18302796
>anon doesn't actually know English but thinks bluster is enough to pretend otherwise
Sad!

>> No.18302863

>>18302027
What did Pepeius do? What's his story?

>> No.18302900

>>18299539
I've read hundreds of middle grade books. I work in the genre.

Rowling's prose, especially in the early novels, is never great, and even shoddy at times. There is great writing for children. Rowling isn't it.

But the story works. The characters are forever memorable. It's a world readers want to return to. It's a world readers never want to leave.

You can't fix an uninteresting fantasy world with great prose.

>> No.18302923

>>18302900
Yeah sometimes the setting is more important than prose. Redwall however is one children's book series which imo combines an attractive premise with good prose

>> No.18303041

>>18302900
Oh look another wannabe shitting on billionaires. Maybe when she's as great as you she'll master the art of reddit spacing.

>> No.18303064

>>18302071
Kek op is definitely a freak

>> No.18303069

>>18302420
Got me cackling lmao

>> No.18303321

>>18302863
Probably gangraped someone (not too graphic)

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>>18299785
>>18302027

>> No.18303777

>>18303041
He's actually being rather complimentary to Rowling

>> No.18304059

>>18302027
Post the frog rape scene you absolute fucking autismal.

>> No.18304813

>>18304059
Why, so you can tear is apart? I already know you'll be just like the publisher and fixate on how it's Pepeius' mom's birthday in the scene and she just turned 14. That was a totally normal age to become a mom back then too.

>>18302863
He's comic relief for the Theseus and Perseus stories. I have a storyline for the Argonautica as a sequel.

>> No.18304924

>>18302793
>greentext trashtalk instead of having something to say
It's okay, anon, it's not the end of the world that she didn't like your faggot poetry.

>> No.18304960

>>18302784
I agree. I loved Harry Potter when I was about 6-12 years old. It is great as a novel to get young kids into reading novels, precisely because it’s so simply written. I don’t think it is poorly written, just written for people who have not developed the cognitive capacity for complex language.
So yeah, a grown adult should be able to read something that is more intellectually stimulating

>> No.18305026

>>18299539
OP, I read them in 4th grade. Why are you startled by the prose haha? How big of a fucking retard are you? What did you expect?

>> No.18305241

>>18302784
>kids book
>full of murder

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>>18304813
You should illustrate this. Children's books need illustrations and the publisher probably just didn't "get it" because the words alone aren't enough to convey the right tone you want for your book.

Slap on a couple watercolour illustrations or at least pepe edits and I'm sure you'd be able to find a willing publisher.

>> No.18305376

>>18304813
it was fun bait but you overplayed your hand here

>> No.18305399

>>18301452
?
I think it criticizes classism more than anything else.

>> No.18305427

>>18299785
You need to do a frog rapist spinoff series, set largely in Huddersfield, specifically Fartown, detailing the heroic frog's rape escapades against a gritty urban hellscape of Muslim incest and curry

>> No.18305525

>>18302619
Most YA trash is dead after 2-3 years no matter the branding.

>> No.18305569

>>18304960
The adults who read and reread it likely read it as children. It's just nostalgia.

>> No.18305601

>>18305525
HP is already mostly forgotten. It's a billion dollar franchise with a dozen movies a play and themeparks around it. It will not survive the test of time like actual works of literary merit, probably will become irrelevant in our lifetimes but no more than 1 or 2 generations at best I think.

>> No.18305642

>>18305345
>>18299785
I would pay for a full Greek myths illustrated with Pepes for every drawing. Not going to lie.

>> No.18305701

>>18305601
You’re wrong. Wait 10-20 years for a HP nostalgia revival like Star Wars. It will never end.

>> No.18305712

>>18305701
Star Wars nostalgia is incredibly artificial and paper thin, almost no-one actually likes the new films and it's basically one big mass psychosis.

>> No.18305721

>>18305601
zoomers don't read HP
I tried to get several of my nephews and neices into reading and included it in my arsenal
this might be a strange thing to say but I think Pottermania belonged to that pre-internet generation where things like goth kids were a regular existence that had yet to be subsumed by a more sterilized and generic pop culture experience

>> No.18306529

>>18299539
Her writing is, objectively, horrible.
comfy shit doe, but the movies are better. alan rickman was too good for that shit series.

>> No.18306582

>>18301706
Sounds like someone had ambitions they traded in for a 9-5 and now they're bitter.

>> No.18306602

>>18299539
Guys wanna see a writer who's about to make a killing?
Check out u/canadianmongeese on reddit. He only started posting a month ago and has hella clout already. Gets like 30 of those stupid reddit awards every post. I only read literary fiction so I don't really "get it". But he's definitely a strong writer and the masses love his stuff. I'm telling you.

>> No.18307267

>>18299539
Stop being a pseud.

>> No.18307285

Everyone just loves hating on jk cause she understand that gender isn't mutable. Fuck Globo homo.

>> No.18308892

>>18307285
I disagree.

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>>18302701
>NOOOO YOU CANT HAVE FUN ON THE INTERNET

>> No.18308953

>>18302027
>People want to water them down and ruin them.
>I wrote a children’s book
>the rape scene
You dumb mother fucker

>> No.18308968

>>18302786
Crudity

>> No.18310305

>>18307285
Rowling is globohomo incarnate, her books are neoliberal in the extreme.

>> No.18310336

>>18302027
Based post the pdf please

>> No.18310374

>>18302900
Nuance? On /lit? I'll be damned.

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>>18302027
>born from frog rape
>is called Pepeius

>> No.18310391

>>18300495
If you turned out fine you wouldn't be here.

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>>18310391

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>>18302027
>Then Zeus "finds his pleasure," and "fills her with seed."
>I'm probably a neet because Western civilization
>I thought people here would see it, but clearly not

>> No.18312177

>>18301452
>RACISM IS BAD
>asian character is named ching chong
what did she mean by this?

>> No.18312522

>>18312177
Lmao really?

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>>18302027

>> No.18312666

>>18312177
Zhang Qiu. Chinese had no issues translating her name.

>> No.18312718

>>18305399

jk is a neolib

>> No.18313019

>>18302027
>>18299785
screened

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>>18313019
>>18299785
>>18302027
for future reference

>> No.18313185

>>18299785
I can understand the punisher, being a street vigilante, wont like people raping frogs.

>> No.18313291

>>18299785
Too good for this world.

>> No.18313373

>>18299785
>>18302027
Genius is never understood in its own time.

>> No.18314032

>>18310305
Unless... voldemort did nothing wrong. In a few generations blood will be so diluted no one can perform a simple charm. Wizards and witches will just be a story no one really believes anymore.

>> No.18314235

>>18312522
Its cho chang

>> No.18314292

>>18299785
>>18302027

Post the excerpt of the rape scene if it really exist and if not bot please write one i want to read it

>> No.18314332

>>18314032
>In a few generations blood will be so diluted no one can perform a simple charm
Mudbloods are precisely people with no wizarding blood whatsoever who are capable of magic. Conversely Squibs are wizard-blooded people who are incapable of magic.

Rowling has thought of everything, sorry but England isn't for the English and the law exists to protect the other from us not the other way around. That couldn't be more explicit in her works.

>> No.18314338

>>18312177
Don't forget the Irish kid who fucks up every spell and turns it into an explosion as well with the most Irish name imaginable. This was written during the height of the IRA too.

>> No.18314375

>>18299539

I just I too jut reread the books they were entertaining but now i can appreciate how awfully written it is. It was a great exercise for me, i want to write a fantasy series for children and young adults.

>>18302900

>The characters are forever memorable. It's a world readers want to return to. It's a world readers never want to leave.

>You can't fix an uninteresting fantasy world with great prose.

This, i don't want to write war and peace but i don't want to scare away any publisher with uninteresting characters that are 4deep4u and in the other hand i definitively want to be write something better than Rowling.

The first thing i noticed is that the first book is just a wanking power trip fantasy were everything is handed to the protagonist in a blatant deuxmachina. How do i write a compelling character with out making him/her a martyr or a self insert Mary sue vessel for the reader?

>> No.18314390

>>18314292
Nigga go read Ovid's Metamorphoses. Plenty of stories about Zeus' philandering with mortal women.

>> No.18314402

>>18299807
No Country For Young Rape.

>> No.18314418

>>18300426
It's you're writing is awful as in the writing he are doing is horseshit. This board is so fucking stupid for a board about music.

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>>18299785

>> No.18314426

>>18299539
Rowling had a billion dollar idea that she expanded upon and created a world at the right time. She was never a good writer

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>>18314375
>The first thing i noticed is that the first book is just a wanking power trip fantasy were everything is handed to the protagonist in a blatant deuxmachina. How do i write a compelling character with out making him/her a martyr or a self insert Mary sue vessel for the reader?
But that's all of the books. The fundamental reason for HP's success is that is is an extremely distillated narcissistic fantasy, Harry isn't just rich, tall, handsome, and famous, but he's also oppressed and morally superior, not just in heroic situations mind you, but for example even his home life is an exaggerated victimization that is ridiculous in the extreme for the greater payoff of being magical and superior to the mean muggles who fostered him, who in turn desperately secretly wish they could be magic too but never can be. In effect, Harry Potter is narcissistic porn.

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>>18302027
>I might be a neet who lived of his parents and smokes weed and plays vidya all day (really just post on /v/ about vidya) but I actually went to really good schools that my dad went to and studied the classics. I know their worth. People want to water them down and ruin them.
>I'm probably a neet because Western civilization and elan vital was kept from me. I wanted to help others like me, and I did do through a literary work that I stand by.
>pepe with tumblr filename

Holy shit... this is it... the rumored "universal bait"...

>> No.18314479

>>18314426
It wasn't even her idea, she stole it from this black lady from Bristol.

>> No.18314547

>>18314479
But she expanded upon it as I said. Anyone can have an idea, but to execute it effectively is more difficult.

>> No.18314569

>>18314427

>That pic, that hagrid

PUTAS HARRY PUTAS! kek what a days long gone like birds of summer.

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>>18299785
>>18302027
I needed this

>> No.18314682

>>18302900
>The characters are forever memorable
yeah but sadly only the shitty movie versions of Ron and Hermione will ever be remembered by the general populace rather than their vastly superior book versions

>> No.18314697

>>18303321
lmao

>> No.18314701

>>18305376
this

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18314706

Call me a newfag but what makes good or bad prose/writing? I don't think I'm good at distinguishing it beyond simplistic terms. For example, I recently read Senlin Ascends. I initially thought the prose was bad and just paragraphs of infodumping in the first third of the book, but got better as the story progressed. But beyond that, I don't really know if I can say anything about the writing being "good" or "bad."

Can someone post examples of Harry Potter that they would consider good or bad prose?

>> No.18314712

>>18314706
Far out on the desert to the north dustspouts rose wobbling and augered the earth and some said they'd heard of pilgrims borne aloft like dervishes in those mindless coils to be dropped broken and bleeding upon the desert again and there perhaps to watch the thing that had destroyed them lurch onward like some drunken djinn and resolve itself once more into the elements from which it sprang.

>> No.18314726

>>18314032
The problem is they never established why anyone ever believed that mudbloods were inferior. There was never any evidence in the story of purity of blood actually determining magical potential. In fact, most evidence was contrary, such as Hermione being a strong witch despite being muggleborn. Like, you can have people with an incorrect point of view, but you have to establish why people would ever have a reason to believe it to be true. People aren't just irrational. There's white supremacists in the world because Europe conquered and colonized 90% of the planet. You don't see many african americans running around saying blacks are the master race in spite of their history of being a conquered people by other Africans who had them shipped out of their homelands as slaves.

>> No.18314820

>>18314712
Man, I don't like this prose at all. It just seems like a pedantic run-on sentence with awkward grammar. Just imagine the monstrosity of a sentence diagram it would make. Am I out of touch? Because when I googled the quote, it appeared that most people are praising it as an example of good writing.

>> No.18314835

>>18314032
If Voldermort did nothing wrong, why would she make him the bad guy who dies due to a technicality?

>> No.18314850

>>18314820
It's better in its full context desu.
"Far out on the desert to the north dustspouts rose wobbling and augered the earth and some said they'd heard of pilgrims borne aloft like dervishes in those mindless coils to be dropped broken and bleeding upon the desert again and there perhaps to watch the thing that had destroyed them lurch onward like some drunken djinn and resolve itself once more into the elements from which it sprang. Out of that whirlwind no voice spoke and the pilgrim lying in his broken bones may cry out and in his anguish he may rage, but rage at what? And if the dried and blackened shell of him is found among the sands by travelers to come yet who can discover the engine of his ruin?"

>> No.18314999

>>18314820
Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me.

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>>18314332
>>18314726
Rowling is not a polymath. She has trouble with basic economics and even arithmetic. All of wizarding Britain is apparently only 10,000. (Or only a couple thousand based on the class sizes of apparently the only school.) The economy is mostly shopkeepers and government bureaucrats, plus a few teachers, athletes and (((bankers))). Thus she also doesn't understand the implications of her own work. Much like so many other liberal middle class women don't understand how their actions preserve an oppressive class hierarchy. Pic related.

>>18314835
Newfren, "Hitler did nothing wrong."

>> No.18315078

>>18302793
>criticizes semicolons
tell me how I know you don't know where they ought to go in a sentence

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>>18299539
Best Harry Potter work I've ever read was HPMOR. Are there other HP kinos that fix up the backwards garbage fire of a world Rowling wrote?

>> No.18315165

>>18314726
I don't think that's true. Why do you think the Nazis thought the Jews were inferior? Did they have actual reasons or was it a convenient scapegoat latching on to centuries old blood hatred? Obviously the latter if you're a reasonable person, Jews tend to be intelligent and talented if anything.

It's the same in Rowling's universe, Voldemort himself is half-blood, yet begins the genocidal crusade against those with muggle ancestry. It makes enough sense, Voldemort just wanted to seize power and it was a useful pretext to acquire followers. Communists did the same thing with Orthodox religion in the USSR, the old head of the Russian state was a god on earth, what followed after the red revolution was a cult of personality supported by secular fanaticism.

This isn't to say Rowling's writing isn't 'thin'. I mean, why the fuck does Voldemort want to take over the wizard world? It affords him nothing he doesn't already have, both he and Grindlewald mention things like enslaving muggles but that can't be a real motive since what the hell would they be good for? These bastards can do magic, what would they need non-magical slaves for. Especially hilarious is the notion that Voldemort's primary motive and defining character trait is his atheism and fear of death, when he occupies a universe with constant miracles and outright interactions with and evidence of life after death. It's completely fucking inane under the slightest scrutiny.

>> No.18315182

>>18314712
What a fucking hack.

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>>18315059
It's not like we have an actual headcount of Hogwarts. I'd say it's reasonable there's at least 2,000 students at any given year, so only 10K wizards in all of England is quite low since Hogwarts is only those aged 11-18.

Plus there's other schools in the world, one just across the water. The one with the French whores.

>> No.18315196

>>18315091
Why do people like HPMOR? I gave it a chance once and thought it was supremely stupid.

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>>18314032
>Unless... voldemort did nothing wrong. In a few generations blood will be so diluted no one can perform a simple charm. Wizards and witches will just be a story no one really believes anymore.
It's explicitly stated outside of a few fucked up inbred families, ALL wizards are halfbloods or less. Society carries on without a hitch.

>> No.18315219

>>18315192
Consider that most Houses had 5-10 students of one sex in a given year (this is consistent with book descriptions).
Pick the upper boundary of 10, multiply by 4 by 2 and by 7.
This comes to a total of 560 students at Hogwarts at any given time, probably as a maximum. Your estimate is way off.

>> No.18315234

>>18315219
>>18315059
Rowling is on record saying there's about 1,000 students at Hogwarts.

>> No.18315240

>>18315165
>villain is evil because...he's evil

>> No.18315251

>>18315240
Just like in real life then?

>> No.18315254

>>18315251
Not at all, people in real life are villainous for gain. Voldemort had every gift imaginable and nothing was beyond his reach, then he turns around and decides to melt his own face off and bleach his skin.

>> No.18315262

>>18299539
>write series of books tailored to children
>profit
thats all there is to it.

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>>18315165
Of course someone actually brings up LE NAZI "comparison" in a Harry Potter post. fucking lel

>> No.18315271

>>18315266
> People like to think themselves superior and that if they can pride themselves in nothing else they can pride themselves on perceived purity. So yeah that follows a parallel to Nazism.
>- JK Rowling

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>>18299539
>>18299541
Not reading your stupid shit, fucked up grammar poster. This thread is broken. Lets get out of here.

>> No.18315279

>>18315271
The aspect of purity was only one aspect of the NSDAP, and I would hardly say it was their primary motivation.

>> No.18315280

>>18315273
>>18315266
seething samefag polack

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>>18315280
>you have to be from /pol/ to think LE NAZI is a valid point of comparison in a childrens book

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>>18315279
>, and I would hardly say it was their primary motivation.
That's nice, since no-one else said it either.

>> No.18315291

>>18302793
The only people who dislike semicolons are brainlets who don't know how they're used.

>> No.18315290

>>18315287
So, you made this thread to post your bizarre fetish hatred of Nazis? OK nothing more to see here. Jannies clean it up.

>> No.18315294

>>18315271
NOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOO GOD NOOOO
YOU CAN'T JUST PROVE ME WRONG
OH GOD OH NO
OH NO OH GOD
OH
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18315296

>>18315290
ywnbarw

>> No.18316529

>>18315196
Because its based and intelligent

>> No.18316633

>>18315091
Significant Digits is a pretty good sequel to HPMOR. Better written in some ways.

>> No.18316726

>>18316633
Thanks for the recommend, I didn't even know there was a sequel, but then again, it is a fanfiction to begin with so why wouldn't there be. I think I'll end up really loving it

>> No.18316727

>>18299612
im a millionaire novellist it's not hard all you have to do is write lol

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>>18302027
heh gottem

>> No.18316770

>>18316726
I think there are a bunch of sequels by various people, not all of them good.
The wider "rational fiction" sphere is worth checking out too, if you haven't already. I particularly like Alexander Wales's work. His Superman story is maybe the most well-known: https://alexanderwales.com/the-metropolitan-man-1/

>> No.18316847

>>18316633
is HPMOR worth reading?

>> No.18316892

>>18316847
It does some things very well and other things very poorly.
I think it's badly written and also one of the most entertaining things I had read at the time. You might love it, you might despise it.
If the concept doesn't turn you off, I'd say give it a try. There's something of a shift in focus and tone after the first few chapters, so you could wait that out if you're on the fence. (There's another drift much later on, so if you lose interest halfway through, don't bother pressing on to the end.)

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>>18315091
>other HP kino
The Arithmancer

>> No.18317483

>>18315165
I thought they just saw jews as an enemy/scapegoat. They saw the jewish germans still having wealth after WW1 and assumed it must have been stolen wealth. The success of Jews is what brought about their jealousy, contempt, and hatred. There is nothing like that in HP for muggleborns/mixed bloods. They just do these unrealistic delusional actions like "oh, muggleborns aren't real, you must have stolen a wand from a real wizard" except for the fact that muggles can't use magic and that was something already established in the universe.
>>18315271
Perceived purity is only a positive if you have some kind of sense of historic/ancestral success. Again, the HP universe never establishes that there are things done by purebloods that muggleborns and mixed bloods cannot achieve.

>> No.18317562

>>18299863
I doubt it

>> No.18317580

>>18301706
>Tell it to me again when you're ill and can't afford a doctor
amerimutts, kek

>> No.18317601

>>18302701
shut up, fag and go make another "Raskolnikov is literaly me XD" thread

>> No.18317642

>>18314999
now this is kino

>> No.18318601

>>18317159
4chan was a mistake

>> No.18319174

>>18314726
>>The problem is they never established why anyone ever believed that mudbloods were inferior.
The villain is the most powerful wizard who ever lived who is descended from one of the founders of the school over a thousand years ago who believed that muggles are inferior. Obviously magic genetics exist and obviously that legacy is important for the villain.

>> No.18319470

>>18316633
>Significant Digits is a pretty good sequel
>6633
I see

>> No.18319727

>>18300056
Obviously this

>> No.18319739

>>18314338
Yeah and there's that black kid who rapes Hermione

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Last week i overheard some mid20s girls discussing what hogwarts house they belonged to.

>> No.18320257

>>18319739
Hermione is black too so it doesn't matter being black on black crime.

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>>18302027
i want to believe

>> No.18320622

>>18316892
I thought that it was great, but fuck the ending. Forcing readers to think of a way out for Harry was retarded, Voldemort letting Harry keep his wand was retarded, and bringing Hermione back to life was the most retarded shit of it all.
>>18314032
>>18319174
His closest ancestors were all inbreeding, retarded, and almost squibs. The moment his mother fucked a muggle an extremely powerful wizard was born.
He may have been right about trying to save the wizarding world from being physically or culturally destroyed by mudbloods, but that shit about blood purity doesn't really seem legit.