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Doing what you please is what will make you suffer the most.

>>18287728
>morality is worthless
But you presupposed that posting this thread possessed some kind of value. You made a value judgment while simultaneously denying value judgments.
>life is completely meaningless
So your revelation that life is completely meaningless is also completely meaningless? That revelation is part of your life, isn't it?

>>18287742
We are literally just robots controlled by chemicals, my actions aren't less absurd than anyone else's, i'll admit that

>>18287728
By the way, I don't think you understand the quote

>>18287728
By allah's will I'll radicate all christians and faggots and jannies and trannies and finally u OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrHRs7jdPCE

>>18287728
BTFO'd by Zizek

https://youtu.be/37RLn28mrLU

>>18287732
What if what I please is to be a man after God's own heart

>>18287753
>We are literally just robots controlled by chemicals
Did the chemicals tell you that?

>>18287809
What you will and what you please are two very different things, anon

>>18287807
I'm sorry but Zizek's take on this quote is absolutely retarded.
Morality can only exist when meaning exists, when meaning exists, so does God.
People who are moral, and yet claim they don't believe in god are simply lying to themselves.
If you believe in good and evil, than you believe that there is a clear distinction between evil and good, and that distinction is god.

>>18287807
that statement is already there in brothers karamazov and it was stated by ivan.WTF is he talking about?

>>18287856
then*

>>18287812

>Did the chemicals tell you that?

Hook Line & Sinker every time

>>18287753
WE'RE JUST CONTROLLED BY CHEMICALS VRO.... YOU WOULDNT GET IT VRO LIKE SEROTONIN AND DOPAMINE VRO::..... EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED.....

>>18287856
>Morality can only exist when meaning exists, when meaning exists, so does God.

Nietzschean perspectivism is akin to what loads of people latently identify with "morality", so I wouldn't say that's the case

>>18287856
sorry pal there's no good or evil rather there's only existence and survival .Hell our biology itself is built around that.

>>18287856
Kek, cope harder.
There are good and bad people everywhere.

>>18287787
eradicate**

>>18287728
duties aren't burdens unless you're weak

>>18287861
it's that retarded thing where a pretentious person says that "noooo they never said that" because the known quote isn't exactly letter by letter like that in the original

>>18287728
Morality is a development of rationalizing positive social behaviors that keep the individual in the good graces of the larger group that provides them protection. Apes together are apex predators. The only thing a functioning tribe worries about is another monke. Bad monkes are the highest threat to survival. If you act against morality god isn't coming for your ass but a whole troupe of chimps is and they will literally tear you limb from limb. You are compelled to take the arguments for morality seriously because they stem from an ancient part of your brain that justifies murder for the greater good/survival of many.

>>18287856
What if you just follow what makes you feel good and bad? Empathetic people feel bad seeing suffering and vice versa.

>>18287856
>if you believe in good and evil you have to believe in God! w-why? you just do ok!!

>>18287728
Why am i not allowed to impose by moral beliefs on others?

That's also what christians do. There are 1 trillion interpretations of the bible which one people choose to believe is similarly arbitrary and unjustified.

>>18287728
Does god command it because it's good, or is it good only because god commands it. If the former, then there is a morality besides god. If the latter, morality was always arbitrary to begin with, and your god never meant much.

>>18287728
You've convinced me.

>>18287728
Hes wrong. He assumes everything is chaos and thats factually wrong.