/lit/ - Literature

People are looking for some kind of significance, and they are willing to pay the price of deluding themselves into believing in all sorts of bullshit in order to find it

I was taught in art class that the eyes are halfway down the face.

Separation from meaning leads to all sorts of larps.

>>18153765
>thought basic scientific theories like evolution
I already like him, recommend me some books

>>18153765
If evolution is true, then explain how consciousness can emerge from inert matter.

Someone post the image

>>18153895
Consciousness doesn't emerge from inert matter. The particles in my brain are clearly nert.

>>18153895
Abiogenesis doesn't produce consciousness as a baseline. It needs complex tissue for that, which comes later.

>>18153895
this

>>18153911
>The particles in my brain are clearly nert
neet*

>>18153895
Consciousness isn't a thing, it's a broad category for a series of processes that occur in the brain. I warmup with your 1RM so I'm going to redefine digestion and defecation, which given by your immense girth are the only things you're good at, to be included in the list of processes that make up "consciousness". You are an atheistic materialist, so of course you think that consciousness is something that can be fucking weighed, you absolute brainlet.

>>18153765
>thought basic scientific theories like evolution were false
Kek, source?

>>18153923
>um tissues and stuff
explain how retard. explain how evolution solves the body-mind problem

>>18153944
>non-dualism chads winning
>dualism virgins stuck in the mud once again
damn bruh stasis yourself some bitches lmfao

>>18153988
I accept your concession

>>18153944
>I d-don't like your answer, so let me move the g-goalposts.
Next time, concede with grace.

>>18153944
>mind-body problem
>in 2021
you lost over two millennia ago dude

>>18154084
>>18154009
>>18153988
no, fuck you! explain it to me right now! how the fuck consciousness be a discrete substance if evolution happens?! hmmm?! answer me faggots!

Forced meme that some people took seriously. It's really easy to force an author on /lit/ because the board is slow.

>>18154107
>>18154084
>>18154009
>>18153988
take your meds schizo

post your rarest Guenon

>>18153817

>>18154107
Deal with it, lol. Also, stop skipping breakfast.

>>18153988
>>18154084
>>18154107
absolutely shocked that the local esoteric cult here hasn’t gone full /x/ yet. all you need to do to reconcile materialism and spiritualism is electric universe 101 + the secret of light. you fools are so close

>>18153765
What I'd really like to know, considering Guénon never worked, wasn't a teacher and didn't exactly get a living by selling his books, is who funded his work and for what reason?

>>18153934
>Consciousness isn't a thing
no one seriously believes this, contrarian retard. there is a permeating "you" no matter how much the particles of your brain is arranged. even people with half their brain missing still understand a sense of self.

>>18154776
He probably lived off a sizeable inheritance like other philosophers did.

>>18153765
don't ever slander Guenon (pbuh) on my board ever again

>>18153765
>thought basic scientific theories like evolution were false

Based

>>18154824
>no one seriously believes this
only b*ddhists (npcs)

I'm going to assume this guy is a freemason considering his affinity for islam, I really doubt it's a coincidence that shriners start using the koran after being initiated and some tryhard ugly faggot esoterist turns out this way. Just read Morals and Dogma and his index references. Reminder that universalism is a satanic lie and the Jesus really is the only way

>>18153895
because matter can be councious retard, fuck christianity for popularising dualism

>>18154961
>subjective morality
into the trash it goes

>>18153895
Matter isn't inert because it has properties, and because it actively partakes in the tasks of reality to fulfill an infinite number of roles.

>>18153765
>thought basic scientific theories like evolution were false
Has a monkey ever been observed to evolve into a human?

>>18153923
Abiogenesis is a lie, though.

>>18153934
>Consciousness isn't a thing, it's a broad category for a series of processes that occur in the brain
Calling anyone else a materialist, lmfao.

>>18155056
>n-n-NOOOOOOOO LIFE DIDN'T COME FROM DUST AND ROCKS LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS
>..............IT CAME FROM THE HYPOTHETICAL SPACE ALIENS WHO DEFINITELY EXIST AND ARE PROBABLY DEFINITELY LAUGHING AT US BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP
okay so where did the space alien DNA come from retard?

>>18155266
haha nice

>>18153911
>>18153923
>>18153934
>>18155020
Matter is not real because it cannot exist in and by itself. Do yourselves a favor and start reading books.

>>18153808
you must feel so significant right now

>>18153934
You're an idiot.

>>18155067
Hey man, you're the one who thinks you can take out your calculator and measure the temperature of your consciousness, not me.

>>18154898
If he was a Freemason he would be agitating FOR democracy and progressivism (which was typical of Theosophy - a Masonic offshoot).

>>18154201
this dude is a troglodyte. he legit has no forehead
>>18153817
haha based

>>18153765
Is it true that he hated calculus?

>>18155945
Yes

>>18155945
>Guénon
well... her droped out of math college

>>18153765
>Why is this guy so popular here? I
low iq

>>18153765
>basic scientific theories like evolution were false
If COVID has not utterly destroyed any faith you had in scientism, you are a brainlet. I no longer believe in ev*lution, r*lativity, or any other particularly Semitic """science""".

>>18153923
>Abiogenesis
Pseudoscience

Science is for literal retards. Imagine investigating how the constituents of the absolute lowest, least important and least real aspects of reality interact with each other and thinking that you’re “mastering Nature” or whatever kiked, egomaniac phrasing they use. Evolution is fake, materialism is fake, conscious is completely fundamental. Start meditating, find God, and reject false wordly “wisdom”

>>18156176
based anti-science chad

>>18154889
buddhism is a metaphysical belief based on ignoring everything self-evident you can perceive in your existence, strictly anti-intuition. completely worthless.

>>18155945
geunon the anti-math chad
evola the math student nerd

>>18155528
I will be the judge of that. Fine anon. It won't be soon but what do I read from this high-bred fuck that will "prove he isn't a freemason"?

>>18153765
imagine thinking guenon's dumb and the reason you give is that he... denies evolution. you deserve OUT of the gene pool, anon!

>>18156176
Giga-based

>>18153765
There hasnot been as many Rene Guenon (PBUH) Threads as usual and if there has it's schizos like you hating on him or posters who admire his work genius and talent. have you ever read a single book by him?

>>18153765
Evolution is not true.

>>18154201

>>18153765
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he is a comfy man

>>18154776
he was a teacher. And he had inheritance from his parents

>>18153765
The problem with evolution, from a metaphysical stand point is that it imply there were a world without consciousness. That is, without the separate sense of I, the ego. In reality, in order to distinguish itself from God, the world and humans needs the illusion of the ego. The illusion that we are separated from God. The illusion is the fondation of the existence separated from it's principle.
The evolution suppose there was a world without humans. It is materialistic and think the foundation to the world is the matter or atoms, but in reality what makes this world is : God (the principle) and our own spiritual limitations due to sin.
The separate consciousness is the definition of humans, so if there were this ego, the human existed. And if there is the possibility of ego, there is the one of it's destruction (i.e. deification).

It doesn't matter if they were in a more ethereal form, but is can't be in a lesser form as presuppose the evolutionist. Because if these lesser animals had the sense of I, and were gatekeeper of the sense of separation between God and humans they would be humans. Not that they are not conscious of their own existence (Descartes btfo), but that they don't have a principle of consciousness independant of their material form. They are the material manifestation of the sense and of life, we are the "manifestation of" the consciousness that it depends on. In this we rejoin the medieval thought that humans are capable of God while animals aren't.

The evolution, without any evidence, suppose the more comes from the less, but that can't be true.

Also it's progressist while metaphysically things can only get worst since it is the way lighting function (I'm using an analogy).
"spiritual" people that believe in evolution didn't think well about it so I assume they are just not "well turned" in a spiritual way. Because it contradicts basic metaphysical "principles".

>>18153895
Guenon says there can be no really inert matter as it would mean something without qualities. Even the concept of matter is not traditional, since there is just levels of participations to the divine and that the matter is not something separated from the rest.
So the properties of now gross matter have changed in time and one can suppose it is just, in a way, the dejections of the spiritual bodies of our ancestors. Dejection in the sense that it is the lower part of their conciousness that stays in our own, weak ignorant materialistic that we are.
Also if the matter were consciouness it means the matter were spiritual (so human) and then latter started "hardening" as the creation is getting cold because of our straying away from the principle.