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Why is religious literature so superior to secular literature? Is faith a prerequisite to artistic greatness? This seems to hold for the other arts too.

>> No.18101777

name 5 examples (fiction)

>> No.18102116

>>18101777
still waiting
anyone?

>> No.18102145

>>18102116
Divine comedy
Pilgrims progress
Bhagavad gita
Paradise lost
Iliad

>> No.18102156

>>18101754
faith is a superior method for experiencing culture and art. if you approach art from a purely rationalist perspective it always becomes soulless.

>> No.18103412

>>18101754
Because non-religious books feel like the author is trying to impress you, the reader. Religious books feel like the author wants to impress God and therefore feel less fake.

>> No.18103428

>>18102145
Absolutely rekt

>> No.18103480

>>18101754
Since the French Revolution we haven't had ANY good literature secular or religious. And before the French Revolution almost all literature was religious.

>> No.18103531

>>18101754
A person who believes in God, however nominally, is already partly mentally focused on higher things. They have already, even in a small way, thought about eternity, morality, goodness and the great beyond.
A declared atheist is too busy adjusting his fedora, memorising Hitchens quotes and hoping to one day lose his virginity. He has no spare mental energy for contemplating the good, true and beautiful.
The best an atheist writer can do is be a little bit clever or ironic.

>> No.18104530

>>18101754
Religions tend to restrict all sorts of hedonism, so the authors of religious texts spend most of their days deep in thought and reflection, not to mention the importance of tradition which is basically passing on wisdom from one generation to another so they can continue building from there.This is why so many profound and insightful works can be attributed to these people.

>> No.18104572

>>18102156
art is the expression of the soul, ergo "soulless" art cannot exist, it is not art

>> No.18104684

>>18101754
>Posting bait this weak

I'm insulted

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>>18103480
Is this your entry for the "Most Pretentious Comment of the Week" contest?

>> No.18104939

>>18104572
Secularism would suggest that the soul does not exist.

>> No.18105648

>>18101754
what is atheism but a failure of imagination?

>> No.18105838

>>18104684
Not bait. It shouldn't be that hard to believe either. On one hand you have somebody who makes art to bring himself closer and to worship God, on the other you have somebody who makes art to massage his ego and desire for worldly fame and validation from others. Who will make the better art?

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>>18101754
56:10.3.
Beauty, art, is largely a matter of the unification of contrasts. Variety is essential to the concept of beauty. The supreme beauty, the height of finite art, is the drama of the unification of the vastness of the cosmic extremes of Creator and creature. Man finding God and God finding man—the creature becoming perfect as is the Creator—that is the supernal achievement of the supremely beautiful, the attainment of the apex of cosmic art.
56:10.4.
Hence materialism, atheism, is the maximation of ugliness, the climax of the finite antithesis of the beautiful. Highest beauty consists in the panorama of the unification of the variations which have been born of pre-existent harmonious reality.

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>>18102116
>My diary
>You're diary
>Diary of Anne Frank
>Live and Let diary
>The Bible (aka Jesus diary)

>> No.18105952

Religious literature can't go wrong with its subject matter, and is much less likely to go wrong in its understanding of it
Secular writing can be any old bullshit

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>>18105928
Hot dog we have a wiener

>> No.18106608

>>18101754
More is at stake. Bach's job was to compose but it was also in a sense an act of devotion, and to have produced a subpar work in the name of God, a sacrilege. The noblest subject matter calls for the utmost ability. Same goes for Milton, Rembrandt, any of those guys

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>>18101754
*blocks your path*

>> No.18107535

>>18104939
secularists are idiots and should be ignored

>> No.18108095

>>18102145
Unironically the majority of these works came in conflict with the religious authority at the time. Its weird to call the Divine Comedy a religious book, when non of the churches accept is as a gospel or as divinely inspired. Which brings us back to the question, yes the concept of the divine inspires lit, but religion does not.

>> No.18108190

>>18102145
>>18103428

Bhagavad Gita and the Illiad aren't fiction, unless you meant in the same way the Bible is, in which case I tip my fedora to you

>> No.18108208

>>18105838
>Implying godfags don't believe to massage their egos and seek validation

>> No.18109696

>>18104914
Shut up faggot

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>>18109696
I only read books published before 1789; You've probably never heard of them.

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18109935

It isn't.

>> No.18109996

>>18109935
Not a good thing also go fuck yourself.

>> No.18110015

>>18109996
Seething christcuck.

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>>18109935
>>18109996
>>18110015
Most lit is about God or his absence.

>> No.18110353

>>18109906
>reading enlightenment books
kek

>> No.18110361

‘Religious literature’ is a bit broad, don’t you think? I mean, much of fundamentalist literature is Bible Man tier stuff that you’d see in a thrift store

>> No.18110951

>>18108095
They are still religious books.
Religion isn't only institutionalized religion, it can be personal and non-traditional, its still religion.