/lit/ - Literature

shouldve learned latin

>>17968401
She would have been hotter if she were black.

>>17968401
You know those pants are squishing her dumpy gut into a pseudo rump right? Irl she looks like gumby

>>17968410
No, she would've been hotter if she had an Asian body.

>>17968460
That's kind of what I meant. I like black girls with a black girl body, asian girl with an asian girl body etc.

>>17968401
Rubicon by Tom Holland.

>>17968401
>I'm having a hard time understanding the attitudes of the romans. any good books about them?

It's usually a good idea to stick with primary sources. Livy's history of Rome might help you figure them out.

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>>17968564
You really took the time to make that?

>>17968564
The feminine ideal.

>>17968564
>implying you wouldn't

>>17968564
You've made something bad worse but it's still not the worst. What's your point?

Starting with the Greeks means Plato, Aristotle, The Odysey, brief looks into Diogenese, etc and that's it.

You only need the stuff that was the basis of Medieval christian philosophy - as used by Augustine, Aquinas etc and later on Kant, Hobbes etc.

The point of studying the greeks is only so you can understand the reasoning behind the later European philosophies that serve as the basis for the modern world.

Faggotini.

>>17968605
based

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>>17968536
thanks boys

>>17968637
I mean I read plato and aristotle but I care more about literature than philosophy

>>17968401
where do i find a cute Catholic gf /lit/

>>17968686
Why would you want to date a schizophrenic?

>>17968401
The Epicurean school had a large presence in the region. Lucretius, one of the earliest great Roman poets, was an Epicurean.
>On The Nature of Things
Seneca was a Roman Stoic, who worked for Nero. If you're into literature Seneca and Lucretius are both very influential in the arts, and Seneca wrote a number of plays
>Seneca: Moral and Political Essays
>Seneca: Phaedra and Other Plays
Of course there's Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus, two very different people that were both very into stoicism.
>The Discourses of Epictetus: The Handbook, Fragments
>Marcus Aurelius: Meditations
Any list about Roman authors would be incomplete without mentioning Cicero. Anyone that can out argue Julius Caesar in court demands our attention. As one Pompeiian tagger wrote: "You will like Cicero, or you will be whipped"
>On moral duties, tusculan disputations, on old age, scipio's dream, on the character of the orator, Against cataline 1 & 4, For Caelius, Second Phillipic, and, Letters.
>or just grab a Latin textbook. You might as well learn it now
On the history side of things, you should check out Plutarch and Tacitus
>Plutarch: Parallel Lives
>Tacitus: Annals, Histories

>>17968835
>You will like Cicero, or you will be whipped
Kek I found the stoic paradoxes really dry. I guess I'm getting the whip.

>>17968401
What don’t you understand? I didn’t think there was any ambiguity?

>>17968686
Go to mass. If you feel like you cannot find anyone try going to different churches.

>>17968835
Hello dogmatist, I noticed you conveniently excluded Cicero’s Academica and Nature of the Gods.

>>17968637
The Greeks entail, at MINIMUM,

>Hesiod
>Homer
>Aeschylus
>Sophocles
>Aristophanes
>Plato
>Aristotle

With some Sappho and Pindar. Thucydides and Herodotus could be optional for completion's sake, everything else is optional. But the above 9 are absolutely essential.

>>17968401
Why doesn’t anyone start with the warring states era of Chinese history? My impression is that the current historical treatments are dog shit, so this is an area where/LIT/could actually help scholars.

>>17969880
*plus Euripides.

I've been thinking of making a series of effort posts on them

>>17969894
because it's gay and souless. it's 200 years of debating how to practice filial piety and whether we should throw our valuables in the grave of our loved ones.