/lit/ - Literature

>>17892503
Take the rapture-pill and help build a new intellectual foundation for conservatism, senpai:
https://youtu.be/EvkhZYEWl5o

Peterson is surface level benzo boy. GEt some philosophy in you like a real man.

>>17892503
hes a crypto jew who peddles (((Christianity))) and (((civic nationalism)))

Nietzsche was more right wing

>>17892503

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXxlYzBCno

JPB wants to be a new age shaman. He's ultimately just another washed up self help guru.

>>17892503
Uhm, he is liberal.

this killed a thread

>>17892503
still better than zizek, chomsky or any of the black ones.

>>17892503
ENTER

>>17892503
>clean your room
>stay sober
>lives in filth
>addicted to benzos
He should have stuck to lecturing on Jung.

>>17892611
but is it bad advice?

>>17892594
What I love about Sowell is how all of the left’s usual dismissals don’t work on him. Say he’s racist who doesn’t understand black people? Nope, he’s black himself and personally lived through shit like Jim Crow. Say he doesn’t understand the poor? Nope, he grew up in poverty. Say he doesn’t understand Marx? Nope, he’s well versed in leftist theory and was a Marxist himself for over a decade. Say he’s privileged? Nope, he started from a shit environment and terrible household and worked his way up. His entire existence is a contradiction to their ideology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj270_KbLno

>>17892616
It's hypocrisy and most people don't like that. Even worse Peterson explicitly says not to listen to people who don't have their shit together.

>>17892681

>>17892681
They just call him an Uncle Tom

>>17892681
>he’s well versed in leftist theory and was a Marxist himself for over a decade.
He’s not well versed at all.

I think it's a problem with American culture in general rather than conservatives.

>>17892681
sadly he's kind of a retard and a complete cuck to corporate power.

> muh welfare never works

Then why does US suck so much?

>>17892788
What countries does the US suck compared to

>>17892745
Its so much easier to call everyone ignorant than to actually defend your axioms isn't it?
>Dey jus havent red it maynnnnn, if only i can get enogh people to reed dis shiet,
maybe youll be the guy to redpill all the normies once and for all!

>>17892503
Real conservative intellectuals are too busy being rich.

>>17892503
>>17892559
That's right. A couple of decades ago he would have been your bog-standard lib. The only thing "conservative" about him is that he says he is a theist and openly expresses some minor concerns over trannyism. Before the left decided genital mutilation for the mentally ill and self-appointed pronouns were integral human rights he was completely uncontroversial.

Other than that there's not a lot to contend with for a progressive aside for his views on economic policy, as evidenced by his talk with Zizek where they were in agreement throughout the discussion.

If he would drop the talk about trannies, the bible and helping young men he would be indistinguishable from other establishment lib academics who cuck out to tranny ideology to save their jobs.

>>17892681
Muh based blag man

>>17892503
Candace Owens MyMillow guy. Jordan xanany Peterson. I'm Loving Every Laugh bros

>>17892788
countries that are whiter than it

>>17892811
any country with universal healthcare, and where people arent suing each other en masse, and where there isn't open carry of assault weapons allowed and regular mass school shootings, and where there aren't constant race riots, and where pharmaceutical and insurance companies aren't designed to rip poor people off, and where the state and federal governments don't rig elections, and where going to hospital in an ambulance doesn't bankrupt a family, and where the minimum wage is at a liveable rate and the consumer isn't expected to pick up the slack of businesses, etc, etc.

>>17892788
>sadly he's kind of a retard and a complete cuck to corporate power
Too bad the leftists can't criticize him on those points since they'd be forced to reveal their own retardation and corporate cucking. That's why their only viable strategy is character assassination, especially based on essential identity traits.

>>17892503
Hitler is.

>>17893052
>implying conservative pundits don't regularly perform character assassination

>>17892503
This has to be photoshopped. There's no way his room is THAT disgusting

>>17893082
peterson admits its real. see >>17892687

>>17893095
what he said is absolutely true. even though I don't like him very much.

>>17892986
No, he is literally a liberal party member. You Americans have no idea what liberal is. It is boomer conservative.

>>17892503
>UN Agenda 21 contributer
Astroturf — do you speak it

>>17893051
based

>>17893132
>You Americans have no idea what liberal is. It is boomer conservative.
So your point is that the European liberal is even more horrifying than ours?

Please save me from that.

>>17892681
He's still a jew.

>>17893132
Read the post again. I agreed that he was a liberal, you fucking retard. I'm not American either.

>>17893051
Can you name some specific countries

>>17893230
Well about half of the world's countries have some form of universal healthcare

>>17893230
So you can false flag about muslims raping women as a thinly veiled projection of your own cuckolding fetish that is universal to Americans? No thanks.

>>17893259
A specific country that you think the US sucks in comparison to

>>17893266
Meant to say "strawman" there.

>>17893051
based, makes the propaganda victims seethe. Imagine having a 5th grade understanding of politics, there is no other way to remain Conservative.

>>17893266
Well that's one way to reply to a simple question lel

>>17893230
Australia
New Zealand
Canada
Denmark
Sweden
Norway
Germany
UK
Ireland
Austria
Switzerland
Japan
South Korea
Finland

to name a few

>>17893284
The things listed in that post are ubiquitously ignored or at worst actively endorsed among both liberals and conservatives. From an outside perspective it's unfathomable that anyone can actually buy the lie of a political dichotomy in the US.
Sure, there are good liberals who aren't like that and good conservatives who aren't like that, but they have 0 political influence.

>>17893313
Bit problematic to list a bunch of painfully white countries and say that a diverse country 'sucks' in comparison

>>17893333
didnt realise japan and south korea are white

>>17893347
fetishization of east asians is a common tactic of white supremacists, the model minority myth supports pernicious racist rhetoric

>>17893349
what has any of this got to do with racism?

Nick Fuentes

fuck jannies

>>17893416
why do these cunts always look like they got bullied in school?

Everything real is underground.

>>17893349
>Japanese and Koreans are a minority in Japan and Korea

>>17893459
>I'm not racist, see there are East Asian countries I think don't suck
sweatie.

>>17892559
so is half this board, but nobody will admit it because you all keep conflating liberalism with the left.

>>17893051
Live in any country outside the US first and then talk sweatie

>>17893494
I do that's why I have perspective how shit it is

americans are deluded

>>17893347
Even worse they're ethnostates that embrace xenophobia. These are the countries that are better than the US huh? Says a lot about the way you think, that is to say you don't.

>>17893623
US has a massive problem with xenophobia you fucking dunce

>>17893565
So you uncriticaly accept all ideological trash and media hysteria as the truth of American life. Sorry to disappoint but life isn't actually scary here. Most people get insurance from their employer and shootings are rare, normal people don't dodge bullets in the life because mass shootings are isolated and rare incidents that attract disproportionate news coverage. Riots and protests are literally less of a problem than western Europe let alone poorer countries. Stop believing hysterical garbage, you will have a better life.

>>17893818
Japan is like 99% Japanese, the US is 15% immigrants and like 60% white

>>17893854
>shootings are rare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2021

>>17893910
Yeah so rare the anti-gun liberals on wikipedia had to expand the definition of mass shooting to any crime involving a gun. Thanks for the laugh.

>>17893818
>massive
just because it's true in your head doesn't mean it's true in reality
most Americans are pro immigration

>>17893854
>>17893937

hahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahah

keep sucking fox news' dick motherfucker

>>17894000
>fox news
what year is it lmao, nobody trusts the news anymore except brainless progs

>>17893982
bro the ex-president's whole campaign schtick in 2016 was building a wall to keep immigrants out - regardless of legal/illegal - that was his strongest campaign message - if you honestly believe he wasn't appealing to all the god bothering xenophobes you are unbelievably cucked by conservative media

Socialist policies dont work in LatAm and Africa but they work in western Europe and East Asia.

What an intriguing mistery, folks.

>>17894020
How would the wall keep out legal immigrants

>>17894019
sorry ben shapiro and richard spencer

>>17893818
>meanwhile in reality
Trump lost retard get over it

>>17894019
I will keep on not watching cable news ever thank you very much. Can't change your mind if you believe all of America is a total shithole. All I know is my life is genuinely good here.

>>17894034
African countries with universal healthcare:

Algeria
Botswana
Burkina Faso
Egypt
Ghana
Mauritius
Morocco
Rwanda
Seychelles
South Africa

South American countries with universal healthcare:

Argentina
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Peru

>>17894037
>a neocon jew and a biden supporter who still have Twitter accounts
you are so clueless it is actually quaint

>>17894054
https://youtu.be/gIWDVuHDpq0?t=23

>>17894054
We should send all the poor people in the US to these countries so they can get healthcare there. Literally why has nobody thought of this brilliant plan before

>>17894020
The message was to keep illegal immigrants out. Woke tech-progressives cried because of this because it would mean their salary and gardeners could earn a decent salary and have more secure terms of employment. Immigrants are pawns and indentured laborers in the eyes of progressives.

>>17894063
name your favourite conservative media pundits

>>17894072
how is this even any sort of argument

>>17894034
I know what you're talking about, and you're wrong, a lot of south american countries are "writer" than the US and their system is better than having no system at all.

>>17894073
>The message was to keep illegal immigrants out

how can you not even entertain the idea the whole wall business was clearly an appeal to the vast population of redneck xenophobes that live in the US

>>17893910
visual presentation ;)

>>17892559
Like most conservatives these days.

>>17894090
Well these countries evidently have superior policies to the US and borders aren't real anyway so the US poor should go to these places to escape their oppressive state

>>17894118
what does oppressive mean to you?

>>17894096
*whiter.

>this thread
Reminder that you will never be a real woman.

>>17894109

We have nignogs in Canada too, as well as some shootings, and yet, none of the shootings are done by blacks...

>>17894034
>overthrow democratically elected governments in latin american countries
>LOL LOOK GOMMUNISM NO WORK

>>17894180
Feel free to substantiate this claim with evidence, as is available for the American side of the argument. But from what I hear Canada is extremely censorious I tried looking it up but it doesn't seem your police or government actually collect this information so I'm curious how you know it to be true.

I did find this though:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-race-police/study-black-citizens-over-represented-in-toronto-police-arrests-shootings-idUSKCN2562SH

>>17894194
A government that can't defend or sustain itself is a bad government. There's a reason the USSR isn't around anymore sweetie.

>>17894199
>your police or government actually collect this information so I'm curious how you know it to be true.
my feelings told me it is

>>17894194
Communism is a hilarious joke, every country that tries it fails and then only starts getting better when they return to capitalist economic policies. It is a constant source of amusement watching you retards flail about, you will never have a stateless, classless society, and on the off chance whatever country you live in has a commie revolution you will be used as cannon fodder and then shit on by the vanguard state that immediately sets itself up above the people. I can't believe how fucking dumb you have to be to actually believe that the criminals that set themselves up as dictators are doing it 'for the people' and it will eventually lead to the state disappearing. Just unreal

>>17894214
i remember when i watched my first tucker carlson compilation on youtube

>>17892529
>YouTuber

That’s not what an intellectual is anon.

>>17894219
You know I'm right, you know there is not a single example of it even kind of working, you can't even describe the theoretical structure of this 'stateless society', you just cling onto an absurd pipe dream

>>17894242
im not even an advocate of communism but you clearly get your information from youtube

>>17894259
You clearly can't actually argue against a single thing I said can you

>>17894214
>communism will never work
>the red sun is rising in China
yeah ok retard, youre gonna live in socialism whether you like it or not

>>17894263
because there isn't any viable points it's just buzzwords

>>17894266
China's economy is mostly private, and it continues to privatize more yearly. The closest it got to attempting socialist policy was the hilarious disaster of Maoism

>>17894278
There were two very clear points
>there is no example of communist civilization
>there isn't even a coherent theory of a stateless society's structure

>>17894307
>there is no example of communist civilization
wtf
>>17894307
>there isn't even a coherent theory of a stateless society's structure
define "coherent theory"
show me a "coherent theory" of capitalism

>>17893854
>isolated and rare incidents

Not compared to the rest of the world you absolute fucking retard. That's like saying well John ain't so bad, he only ate one baby; it was an isolated and rare incident.

>>17892681
>well versed in leftist theory
He literally said in the zizek debate that he only skimmed through the communist manifesto the night before, only having read it once 10 years ago.

>>17894353
There is no stateless, classless civilization. Capitalism is just private property, trade, and wage labor, and there are many past and present variants of it, including the majority of the Chinese economy.

>>17893313
So predominantly white homogenization, or countries largely mimicking western models
Got it

All the issues you listed in the prior post have everything to do with a lack of connection, and you cannot cohesively force connection among radically different groups
This is not a capitalist problem, it's not a corporate problem. Its not even a materialism problem.
This is an identity problem.
It's the problem of having a diverse culture, as certain groups are bound to not give a shit about other groups. Increasingly there will be animosity that will cause people to become even more in-group preferred or self-oriented (same thing as the group is a shared organism)

All you pointed out with your post is the fruits of homogenization and hegemony, specifically white or European approaches to it.

>>17894378
can you even read

>>17894266
That will mean the end of constant woke shilling from the American techno-feudalist corporations so I don't know why leftists are looking forward to it and rightists are fearing it.

>>17894371
rare in an absolute sense my numerically challenged friend, what do you think your chances of dying in a mass shooting are

>>17894389
lmao imagine actually thinking we cant have universal healthcare because we have a diverse population

>>17894402
Probably about 1000 times as high as in the next first-world country? What? No one is arguing that mass shootings are a prevalent cause of death, though if you want to go there I'd like to have a word about McDonald's.
Obviously mass shootings are rare incidents, if they were the norm society wouldn't function at all. That doesn't change the fact that they are far more prevalent in the USA than anywhere else. Your logic is literally: I don't see mass shootings on a daily basis therefore 'murica good. The absolute state....

>>17894459
>Probably about 1000 times as high
remain serious
The subject is actually rather contentious due to nobody being quite sure what to count as a mass shooting but here is a review
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country
It's not even clear that US has the highest rate among developed countries because it does happen semi-frequently in Europe and many of their countries are much smaller in population.

Regardless it is just totally irrelevant when the actual rate is so minuscule, it just makes for sensational media items and can be used for political purposes.

>>17894175
>I may be bankrupt because I had to call an ambulance and my tap water is poisonous, but making some ugly trannies really upset was totally worth it
The funniest thing about this is that whoever made that image probably thought he was extraordinarily smart
And yes I am awar that it doesn't matter who's in power for these issues, even funnier that most americans care more about black people in their pornography than their country slowly but surely being turned into a surveillance state dystopia / third world shit hole in regions where it's not profitable

>>17894560
>I may be bankrupt because I had to call an ambulance and my tap water is poisonous,
I'm none of those things
most people aren't
reality, try it some time

>>17894560
almost nothing in your post has anything to do with any of the other parts or with what you're replying to

>>17894575
>the reasons conservatives vote against their economic interest
Your reading comprehension is severely lacking

>>17894175
Anon I agree in spirit with picrel bus it's a bit of a non sequitir

>>17894571
>65% of personal bankruptcies in the US is caused by medical bills
Yeah keep telling yourself that

>>17894590
It's not in conservatives' interests to import half the third world into their country and teach them to hate white people, which is apparently a non-negotiable part of the Democratic platform

>>17894603
As I said, I am fully aware that both sides of the American political spectrum are completely retarded. The thing I was making fun of was the creator of the Pic I was replaying to painting unnatractiv transsexuals as the reason to vote against your economic interest

>>17894614
well then it looks like im the retarded one, how the tables turn

>>17892536
>using echo
>condemning christianity from the right
>all in 2021
close your tabs, old man

>>17894444
It's all a race to the bottom. You're never going to get rid of battles, be they blatant or a slow burn, in diverse cultures.
Everyone is trying to undermine everyone else, especially as nationalism dissolves, but this is not new. Pharma and food industry have been in bed for a long time.
This does not happen in homogenized areas because they are family. Familiar.

We spend 8 times more on health care than we do military already.
Mtf is 150,000 per procedure. Docs make bank.
When your thyroid and hormones are out of whack your whole body starts to fuck up.
Cultural lens is not on the most physically and mentally unhealthy people. Not to help them get better, but to enable everything they do and culturally normalize, despite their llifestyle leading to significantly higher costs in healthcare.
Everyone else gets dragged down.

You guys are the weapon, just not the way you romanticize. You're pawns for ultra wealthy to bulldoze any intellectual and financial competition.
They will evade all taxes and you will only further gut middle and upper middle class with a couple martyr celebrity billionaires at most.


Diversity absolutely exponentially increases the cost of healthcare

>>17894659
do you understand the concept of universal?

>>17894659
>Cultural lens is now*** on the most physically and mentally unhealthy people

>>17894601
Most people don't file for bankruptcy
90% of bestiality engagers might get rabies but it doesn't reflect on normal people. Less than 1% of the population files for bankruptcy, and you're talking about a fraction of that.

Turn off CNN, it isn't real.

>>17893416
unironically
at the bare minimum he’s synthesized the ideas of right wing philosophy across the board into a cohesive and contemporary political campaign which is more than enough merit

>>17893416
nick was the high school bully
>projection

>>17894601
those people don't even pay taxes to begin with so who cares

>>17893818
yea not enough of it
i want to look out on the corn fields of fucking idaho knowing they won’t be converted into shit mccities packed to the brim with displaced, uprooted immigrants in the next 50 years

>>17894665
Do you?????
It's clearly a meme word
It's used to mean federal health care provided through taxation for all people in one of the most mentally and physically unhealthy places in the world.

If culture was connected and focused on improving I wouldn't have issue with this.
But it's not connected and it's focused on normalizing it's most unhealthy components

Obese women are proven to produce children with lower IQ but we will normalize obesity.

>>17894678
There were 750.000 cases of bankruptcies in the US in 2019. I don't think there are enough bestiality engagers for that to be a valid comparison. Or what do I know, maybe you Americans all fuck animals :')

>>17894175
>that discord
wew lordie

>>17894694
>There were 750.000 cases of bankruptcies in the US in 2019.
And there's 330 million Americans
so less than 1% of the population, and they're almost all fuck ups to boot. Why don't you just admit you're wrong, what a cocksucker actually trying to pretend that's a big or meaningful number.

>>17894699
If you're delusional enough to think that 750000 humans (per year, also the actual number of people affected by those bancruptcies is much higher) isn't a lot I understand how you ended up being a conservative. You don't need to reply, there is no point in further discussions with someone that has completely lost it, so I won't reply anymore

>>17892503
No he's just the only one controlled enough to be allowed on TV.
Read some Jared Taylor or William Pierce if you want a comtemporary, intelligent and serious writing from aright wing perspective
But you reading a fucker whos litterally ADVERTIZED BY THE POWER STRUCTURE TO FAIL and then finding him stupid isn't going to be an argument against them.

>>17892724
>t

>>17894175
kek
based.

>>17894737
>prog literally incapable of grasping concept of per capita
This happens a curious amount

>>17894560
Did it ever occure to you anon that if it wasn't for you embracing and advancing the rights of the
>"ugly trannies"
left wing movements would be more popular in this country?
Did it ever cross your mind,
Ever for a single instance,
That the left turning its back on the white working class and supporting the civil rights movements and mass immigration (IE literal corperate power moves to import and integrate scabs)
might be why you lost all connection with them and as such the left has been utterly fucking dead ever since the 1970s???

>>17894737
More people smoke crack per year than go bankrupt in America. In fact SIGNIFICANTLY more people in America have sub 90 IQs, almost 25% of the population, than the amount that go bankrupt this year. America literally has more legally retarded people than people who file bankruptcy. 750,000 is not a lot relative to the total population, fucking liberal idiots don't understand math or something, maybe that's the key to being a dumb fuck socialist, certainly was the case for Marx, pic very fucking related.
Leave the counting to people who count.

>>17894772
>. America literally has more legally retarded people than people who file bankruptcy.
kek I just looked this up it's true, there's 6 million actual retards in the US

>>17894175
I didn't need to see that...

>>17894779
that's ridiculous, it's at most 200k

>>17894767
>>17894772
First of all, you have to be severely autistic to think that per capita is the end of all arguments
But sure, there have been 1.200.000 violent crimes in the US in 2019 according to the fbi, so there is only around 0.4% of the population affected by it, so it's a complete non issue right?

>>17894827
It's not significant, yes.

>>17894827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCm9Ng0bbEQ
This isn't controversial, you're just impressionable and neurotic. Facts are facts.

>>17894827
>First of all, you have to be severely autistic to think that per capita is the end of all arguments
...it is when you're discussing the "quality" of a country, which was the topic at hand.

>>17894849
Not him, but Steven Pinker is wrong about nearly everything

>>17894849
>unironically posting that kike Pinker
just fyi there are more slaves alive today than ever before
of course Pinker cherry picks data and how he presents it so that doesn't come up

>>17894849

Some stupid ass pointless arguments going on itt

>>17894772
>America has a genuine retard problem
This whole seething post of yours is pretty ironic when you consider that that socialists in america are likely outnumbered something like 1000000 to one, so 99% of those retards are your ilk.

>>17892503
Everyone just forget this guy?

>>17894868
>the prog is felled again by the great beast Per Capita

>>17893349
retard alert
>>17893333
How is it "problematic"? if anything it shows, how much of a mistake a largely diverse country is. Also digits died for this fag.

>>17894845
>>17894856
>>17894849
My point here is not that violent crime is actually a severe issue. My point is that conservatives (and democrats as well) spend trillions on the military and and police after fear mongering about evil immigrants and terrorists, money that could easily prevent 65% of bancruptcies

>>17894898
>there are two categories, socialist and not-socialist
>so everyone who isn't in my category is the same thing as you

>>17893479
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD YOU FUCKTARD TWITTER USER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17894898
>these numbers I pulled out of my ass are better than actual data
seems legit
https://news.gallup.com/poll/257639/four-americans-embrace-form-socialism.aspx

>>17894998
Commies sincerely believe themselves to be victims even though they are white collar faggots working office-jobs who live in bubbles like academia rather than deal with the real world. They are going to call you an oppressor even as they get you ostracized and killed for thought crime. They're legitimate lunatics unable to parse the real world outside of their ideological dementia.

>>17894998
being wrong by a 4000% order of magnitude isn't a good look, granted

>>17894998
>https://news.gallup.com/poll/257639/four-americans-embrace-form-socialism.aspx
>some form of socialism
>free healthcare is literally socialism
the absolute state of americans

>>17894943
if you think like this >>17895180 then I'm sorry you are retarded. You and >>17894998 >>17895008 >>17895028 may as well start including yourself in the 6 million statistic

>>17895008
lmao what a dogshit article. Did you even read it before posting?

>>17892503
No, this is the best conservative intellectuals have to offer and no leftist has ever been able to refute it nor will they ever.