/lit/ - Literature

>>17842133
He's funny, just read his book. He also the predecessor who influenced Nietzsche

>>17842133
He also made Marx have an autistic shit fit because he said communism, socialism would just end up in tyranny, and that it was grift for duped egoists - he ended up being right. Stirner has this poetic status of hated for just speaking his mind when all long he was absolutely right about everything he said. In the end, history redeemed him.

>>17842133
He validates the sociopathic behavior of most of the people who browse this place

>>17842209
>>17842219
But this board is filled with "God loving" people. Can't see them being okay with Stirner, since Atheism is considered to be a midwit's stance here.

It's the cathlarpers that are overpresented

>>17842219
Stirner himself was far from sociopathic, his contemporaries noted him for being "frugal" and "unambitious." His book has a certain vagabond ontology, and he has often been compared to Yang Zhu, Zhuang Zhou and Zen. You could certainly interpret Stirner as being sociopathic, but usually because just meme him, and don't actually read his book.

because, monsieur, he is an obscure intellectual to the general public who are so inundated with the publicity campaigns behind nietzsche, marx, and all the existentialists with the philosophical equivalent of a septum piercing. makes one seem, don't you think, quite well read to talk about stirner? he didn't believe some things, made a very proud stand against some ideas, which was very curiously noted by the ladyfolk who he did dress up quite nicely for.

>>17842233
Yeah, this board is filled with spooked people such as Christians, but ironically, Stirner does represent a small sliver of Christian thought. Stirner references the bible quite a bit in his book, and his philosophy has also been compared Ecclesiastes who Stirner even references in the book. In fact, the most well known interpretation, translation of Stirner was done by a Christian (David Leopold's Ego and Its Own) who found that value in his work.

>>17842233
Believe it or not OP, there was a time before the tradcath immigrants began their LARP on this board. Stirner is an old meme.

>>17842267
Seems like it was a lot better back then. I've been here for 6 years, but I guess I was too late..

People always complain about the tradcath but they are nowhere to be seen

>>17842316
>>/lit/catalog

>>17842316
>>>/lit/catalog

>>17842133
In my opinion this site has a tendency to put forward works that are especially relevant for the current period.

Here we are in forced isolation, an entire generation of religious apostates who have been drilled relentlessly by the media, the educational systems, the government, to ritualistically humiliate and abase themselves, and to always seek out a higher authority on who's altar we can offer our Ego, our wants and desires, as sacrifice.

Stirner understood that the Left, the Right, the Church, and the State, family, lovers, employers all wanted essentially the same thing, conformity and obeisance. Man would have been a /lit/izen if he were born today, no doubt.

Not to mention he's a pretty damn good writer, and his book is essentially several hundred pages of rage posting.

>>17842133
His beliefs are ridiculous and funny with a dash of truth to them. Basically, his philosophy had all of the components of a good meme. Ta-da! He becomes a meme.

I your take away from him is atheism , you got other problems

>>17842426
Thats not my question.

>>17842133
Because Stirner was a edgy boy who shit on Marx.

Because there's nothing more important than yourself, and right now what's popular is to destroy your own ego.
Without ego, you're an easy prey to sects, ideologies, consumerism and so on. "The ego and its own" is the best self-help book one can read.

his book is a little bit funny but not bad. he just became a meme beacuse of that funnyness inside his book.

>>17842133
a more like lax sterner am I right ha

>>17842133
1. He’s right
2. He’s a fun and easy read
3. Being just a sketch, he’s easily meme-able

>>17842847
There is no way you're the same butterfly that was on here before. You're too based now

>>17842886
Lit got me to read him ages ago...

I made this.

>>17842133
his philosophy is the logical conclusion to the individualistic and materialist worldview that dominates modernity

>>17842915
>dominates modernity
Nope.

Is there much difference in The Unique and Its Property compared to The Ego and His Own? Got the latter translation before I remembered the former.

>>17842921
Butterfly? You were a massive lefty three years ago

valoos

>>17843046
I still am

>>17843055
I still have your selfie in a hard drive backup probably. What the hell

>>17843062
Seems permabans don't actually kill people in real life. Thought you just left and went out to be normal

i've always wanted to date an older woman

Popularity is a spook. So are boards and explanations.

I have The Unique and its Property and it just establishes that, well, there's nothing wrong with acknowledging you're an egoist by default and that you should stop chasing phantoms unless it's for your own benefit.

It's actually could be elaborated further but it's stated properly enough in the book and to elaborate further would miss the point.

>>17842436
that's the underlying implication though.
anyways, you might just ask why is the chad-meme so popular and get similar answers

Probably the fact that most religious people are patronizing retards who don’t even practice themselves what they preach. If they don’t follow their own rules, why should anyone else?

To me, Stirner just sounds like the average Christian with fewer steps

>>17843433
Not really. I've noticed that this board won't hesitate to call an atheist a midwit. I'm just curious how Stirner gets awat with it. Whether he truly considered himself to be an Atheist or whether this board considers him to be a theist, is something I'll admit I do not know.

>>17843531
>I've noticed that this board won't hesitate to call an atheist a midwit.
That’s because this board is about 90% NEET larpers

>>17843454
>Probably the fact that most religious people are patronizing retards who don’t even practice themselves what they preach

This was my exact experience when I tried to give Christianity a shot.

>>17842133
I never recovered from reading the first chapter of his book
the guy is an atomic bomb
unlike Nietzsche that was dynamite

>>17842306
You’ve been here 6 months lil man

>>17843889
Nah. 6 years.

>>17843531
Because he attacks the ideas of atheists -secular humanism

>>17843896
That’s great, I’ve been here almost twice as long, do I get a medal now?

>>17843896
No, you’ve been here 4 months now. That’s the end, times infinity times whatever you say, I win newfag.

>>17842133
Made Marx and his provider seethe hard, so people love him

where should I start with him?

>>17843989
Max Stirner's Dialectical Egoism: A New Interpretation and Wolfi Landsteiner's added commentry to it. If you can get your hands on it, you can also read Max Stirner on the Path of Doubt by Stepelevich

>>17842133
Spoogs

>>17843909
I'm just correcting him, anon. Also, I dud imply that I was a newfag.

>>17842133
Strong meme power

>>17844161
did*

>>17842133
He was the first based person to exist.

>>17844970
The second, if you count God.

>>17845176
Stirner refuted God.

>>17845204
no he just called God an egoist

His name is literally "funny forehead".

>>17845204
God is, as metaphysical concept, neither refutable nor confirmable.

You should read more.

>>17845687
not really, "stirn" means forhead, and Max Stirner is a joke name he had among the Young Hegelians

>>17845827
what's his actual name then?

>>17845835
Johann Kaspar Schmidt

>>17845697
So in other words, completely useless as a description of anything

>>17845845
read more

>>17842233
An atheist is still a child of God. I don't think you understand Christianity at all.

>>17845204
It did not set out to refute god though. He argues such questions are not worth considering, and even if a god exists, he is useful because it his actions dialectical gives birth to Der Einzige's own utility. And with this utility you can say whatever propositions god posits against you; you have the utility, the ability to say otherwise. Just as god defines his own laws, and causes, you can set your own.

>>17842133
You're an atheist too. Get real idiot.

>>17842133
cos he is right

>>17842375
Wonderful

>>17845697
spooky

>>17842133
because they are intrigued the line drawing

He is in some sense the hipster version of Nietzsche, because Nietzsche is too popular and his work is too self-indulgent. I highly enjoy Zarathustra and it offers a similar outlook, but the Unique and its Property is so crisp, savage, and cohesive it blows it out of the water.

Obviously, you have to be predisposed towards a certain mindset to even get anything out of it, but he is a very clever writer.
Not to mention that it is very interesting to see a different perspective on the humanist and liberal movement of the 19th century, particularly in Germany.

>>17848024
h-how? how d-did you know?

>>17845697
>neither refutable nor confirmable
What's the point, then?