/lit/ - Literature

Fairly often. I read Silas Marner earlier this week

>>17710287
I've read far more female poets than novelists.
Christina Rossetti, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Emily Dickinson, and Sylvia Plath are the standouts.

>>17710296
wtf that's a guy's name bro lol

>>17710287
Unless I know the author from a previous book, I don't even read the name when picking up a new book.
Strangely enough, the only female author on my shelf is Maria Violante, who I'd love to violate most tenderly.

it's about one in three for me. I read an Ursula le Guin book yesterday

>>17710287
I read Ayn Rand once.

>>17710312
Misogynist

>>17710287
from time to time. like last month. am never not annoyed.

>>17710287
>shelf is a sausage fest
Same but I can't help it. Men are just so much better it hurts. God I love men and wish I were a faggot.

>>17710366
>am never not annoyed.
why

>>17710287
never and never will, not a misogynist, women are not even self aware everything they know i know better, i think reading women could be compared to smoking weed you dont feel it but it'll eventually make you retarded

>>17710401
They do handle writing love (particularly flawed romance and tragic endings) very well though, it's good to delve into their psyche once in a while. Virginia Woolf and Eileen Chang are especially good at this

>>17710323
That's a man

Why do you care?

>>17710386
because all characters are either near to braindeath or outright soulless

>>17710287
I read the collected schizophrenias over a year ago.
An Asian schizophrenic woman wrote it, thus protecting me from all "You aren't reading diverse enough" accusations.

>>17710287
probably in high school. not in the past 10 years that's for sure

>>17710468
Because it's 2021, sweaty. The future is female.

so far this year, I have read books by
Mary Shelley (meh)
Molly Keane (ok)
Joyce Carol Oates (ok)
Djuna Barnes (amazing)
Flannery O'Connor (amazing)
Jan Morris (amazing; also >she)
Edith Wharton (good)
Ivy Compton-Burnett (instant new favourite)
Louise Glück (good)
Ursula K. Le Guin (great)

>>17710497
Why do you care?

>>17710515
Because I'm not a misogynist. Sounds like you are. Be on the right side of history.

>>17710513
Wow, how many books have you read this year total?

>>17710536
25

>>17710530
No, but why do you care?

>>17710539
Impressive

>>17710430
depending on what you seek i guess if you seek insight into things you'd stay away from women thoughts because they dont have it, if you seek to learn natural behaviour and instinct then you should study them like you'd study animals

>>17710536
>counting how many books you've read

Do people actually do this?

Oh wait, of course they do...I forgot people think reading a book is an impressive feat.

>>17710558
No need to get insecure about it.

>>17710558
well the ability to count is helpful in threads such as this one where you're trying to establish how often you read a certain type of book

>>17710287
Reading one right now. Guess the author based on the crazy Amazon review.

>>17710814
flannery o connor?

>>17710287
3-5% of my reading - not any deliberate strategy - just shakes out that way by my interests

>>17710821
Yep. The Complete Stories is the book.

>>17710814
>ruined my Saturday

these people think they're going to start a revolution lol

>>17710829
The last book I read was by a woman too.

>>17710312
Based

>>17710823
Misogynist.

>>17710300
Novelists also read a lot of female poets

>>17710287
I read Sappho regularly in original. Her directness and muscularity make her seem like a man, however. The only other woman I've read with any grain of seriousness is Plath. Her poetry is garbage, but The Bell Jar, if relentlessly confessional and thusly myopic quasi per definitionem, had thoroughly tolerable moments of inspiration.

https://voca.ro/118MVpjdwuf6

>>17711528
Nabokov, is that you?

>>17710848
Was it good?
I like history books like Charles Mann's 1493.

>>17710287
>Be honest
OK. You can trust me

>how often do you read women
Dunno, once a weak perhaps. 5% of my total reading, at a guess.

>when was the last time you did so?
I'm currently reading Goethe's epigrams translated by Elisabeth Stopp; does that count? If not, it would be Sylvia Plath's "Sheep In Fog" about a week ago. (That was re-reading though. Not sure when I last read something original by a woman for the first time. Too long ago to remember.)

>>17711694
Hahaha Freudian slip on "week". Oh well, let it lie.

>>17710287
I have never read a woman author in my entire life, and have no intention of doing so.

I had a quick glance of my book shelf of which I have nearly 200 books, and I spotted Mythology by Edith Hamilton, SPQR by Mary Beard, The Complete Works of Emily Dickinson, and Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Interesting, a lot of the history books I have (too many to list) are predominantly written by women.

>>17710287
In fiction I try to avoid female writers. They're pushed for political and emotional reasons but IQ distributions make clear that there will practically be no female writers worth reading. There are exceptions of course but it's largely impossible to discover them among contemporary writers since there are just too many of them who are artifically elevated. I constantly read female non-fiction authors though. At the moment Gertrude Himmelfarb for example.

>>17710287
{I feel women writing is a very Anglo thing, and that's where the modern connotation of reading and books being effeminate stems from; in other societies, I can only speak for continental Europe, the best poets and novelists and philosophers were men and so predominently that you might be include to say : just men: which would be true if you looked at most good works : at all.
I suppose, and this is just bullshitting here, that similar to migrant or black american subculture women writers haven't had enough time to develop within their role mindset in Western Europe, and especially everywhere else that is not Anglo or the US, to write good fiction, good philosophy, good poetry. Women never were allowed, had the need; still don't really, and didn't like the milieu, middle, medium to write well in, learn to write well in, develop to write well in: this is not the fault of men, or that of women, or that of society, but simple preference of individuals. }=the sum of my opinions.

>>17710287
>how often do you read women
ive never read a book. i don’t know how to read

Pride and Prejudice back in 2019. Was pretty good

>>17710287
How do you read women? I mean, I just read books and sometimes newspaper. Is there some device that shows the words?
That said, I love reading Agatha Christie's work every now and then.

>>17711923
Had a look over at my Asian selection, and realized that quite a lot of those books are written by women (Genji Monogatari, Diary of Lady Murasaki, Pillow Book).

>>17711936
I was inspired by your post to look over at my Asian bookshelf (which is very small compared to my Western/Eurocentric bookshelf). I know you said you "speak for Continental Europe," but women writing is definitely a thing in feudal Asia it seems. I too have noticed a far more greater chance of women writers coming from the United Kingdom than from other parts of Europe (The Bronte sisters, Mary Shelley, Jane Austen, Virginia Woolf, Daphne du Maurier)

>>17711929
I don’t read women either but do you really think high IQ is necessary for writing good fiction?

>>17711973
They are (more common there) for the same reason as in England, I believe, it was seen as a female occupation in a {special environment} : whatever that means, I would spin some theory about unitary societies, men fighting abroad far from their homeland; the kind of nobility, relative cultural isolation and little social mobility : which might be similar between Europe and certain parts of (East) Asia - I would also include India where women's poetry had a strong tradition as far as I know : : : but all those opinions are rather unfounded, facts are more women writers in England and East Asia compared to continental europe and russia where writing was very manly and even poetry was considered mens work (most often)

>>17710287
I read Parable of the Sower last year.
Very meh considering how much praise has been heaped upon it.

>>17710287
Last book written by a woman I read is Harry Potter

>>17710287
Never. As a muslim I will not read any woman, because their works are automatically invalidated by the very fact that women aren't allowed to work (incl. writing) and their deficiency in intelligence.

>>17710287
Almost never and I don’t remember

Percy Shelley’s wife
Ted Hughes’s wife

That’s about it

>>17711991
Sure. As in most things you would pretty much be able to get a fairly accurate average if you rank writers by IQ and to be fair women and even blacks do have a verbal talent so the politically correct hierarchy isn't as artifical as that is the case in other endeavours, but their ideological quota system still has to ruin the ranking. The number of significant writers has to be something like 10:1 male/female and at the top more like 100:1.

I’ve been boycotting non male writers ever since the ‘no boys allowed’ showings of Wonder Woman

Female writers are just like, ‘look girls can twirl light sabers better than you. Girls rule boys drool.’

Don’t waste your time

Fairly often I guess, lot's of novels out there.
Currently reading Sleepless Nights by Elizabeth Hardwick.

>>17710287
I read some Flannery O'Connor last weekend.

>>17712120
>The Force is Female
Does that mean that Obi Wan is now a sexist for saying "[The Force is] created by all living things," the way that people who say "all lives matter" are racists?

>>17710287
never

>>17710287
Flannery O'Connor, Octavia Butler, Ursula LeGuin, Dickinson, there are some great ones
Most recent was an attempt at Handmaid's Tale, which wasn't worth it even as an attempt to understand those that would read it

>>17710287
Never and I think never.

>>17710558
>imagine hating numbers

I bought a bunch of books by Mexican women last year (I'm Mexican) and they were underwhelming. except Valeria Luiselli.

>>17710287
Loved across the nightingales floor (and the entire series, although book 1 and 5 are the best, Can't really remember them) when I was a kid/teen.

>>17710287
the last time I read a women's book I gifted it to my mom

>>17711667
I'm not familiar with Charles Mann. I enjoyed the book, and it gave me a new historical perspective. I had never thought about the astounding amount of time it used to take to spin thread and weave textiles.

>>17712295
>Most recent was an attempt at Handmaid's Tale, which wasn't worth it even as an attempt to understand those that would read it
I read a lot of female authors, but The Handmaid's Tale was a horrid book.

>>17710287
Women lack the maturity to create truly first rate prose.

erin hunter in third grade

>>17712120
>second girl
AOOGA DA BOOBA

>>17713029
I read a different book from the same author and it was a horrid book. I know of some bits of Handmaid's Tale from the media, and it seems she really likes to present her protagonist as unwilling lover of evil man in power.

>>17710287
I read books, not women. Good books at that. Not my problem that women as a sex have contributed very little to the field of literature.

>>17710287
Not only have I never read a book written by a woman, I go out of my way to avoid doing so.

>>17713155
shame about her face

>>17710287
i'm reading Emma atm

>>17710287
I'm reading Evelyn Waugh right now.

I just read a Toni Morrison novel a couple of weeks ago called Jazz. It was pretty good, would recommend.

>>17710287
simp.

>>17712058
So you've read Percy Shelley. Mary did not write Frankenstein.

>>17713142
Based

>>17710305
Do you're parents know your retarded

>>17710544
>>17710530
>>17710497
>It's this easy to bait poltards
Truely a sorry state

>>17710497
the future is trans femcel.

>>17713696
This.

>>17710287
I went through my shelve and eReader library and I found out the first Harry Potter is the only one. Back in the day I also bought the first hunger games book but I never read that and gave it away, that's it

>>17711767
based

>>17710287
I don't think I've ever read a book by a woman, or at least finished one.

I have the feeling I'm not missing out on anything.

>>17710287
Reading a book by Mary Anne Atwood at the moment.

>>17713696
Its not like you read anyway, lel.

>>17713026
That's nice. I've already put the book on my reading list. As for Charles Mann, he wrote about the columbian exchange as he calls it and the effect it had on the entire world in terms of agriculture, wealth, and even bugs and bacteria. I like micro histories like that which focus on a certain niche aspect and how it evolved through ages.

>>17710287
Only Mary Shelley. And that will be the only woman I will ever read.

>>17715387
Why? The Bronte sisters, Jane Austin, Emily Dickinson are worth anyone's time. Some others have already been mentioned. You can judge a group if you want to but when individuals prove themselves, their gender and nationality or anything else they had no power over shouldn't matter at all.

How come you guys are being so bitter and weird these days? More than the usual, I mean.

>>17710287
Last year during the summer. I read a book of poetry called "dog songs" by Mary Oliver. Really short, pretty good though.

>>17715409
I completely agree with your selection but it does matter if the books are being published or highlighted with a quota in mind, Groups have different attributes. There aren't as many intelligent women as there are intelligent men for example so if you offer a 50/50 selection it is extremely likely that you value ideology over quality.

>>17710287
I read Frankenstein as a teenager.

>>17710287
The last time I have read a female author was in middle school. "And then there were none" by Agatha Christie, or maybe it was "to Kill a mocking Bird"? I'm not sure, but either way it felt like a slog to get through. These are supposed to be the best female mystery writers of all time, but it read like some sort of tumblr fantasy. Maybe I'm just retarded and got filtered, but reading female authors feels like eating Mcdonalds.
>>17710401
I agree

>>17710287
I read Virginia Woolf last September.

>>17714618
>your retarded

>>17716274
Which layer are we on now? Have you been filtered or have I?

>>17710287
Last summer when I read Proust. fucking got em lmao.

Andrea Dworkin, my favourite landwhale

can't read women unless it's some lighthearted novel like Anne of Green Gables. I just have a harsher attitude towards the way I read and analyze the text, it just doesn't compare to the way I can appreciate a man's writing.

>>17710287
Lol. You don't need to pretend no women have written anything of worth just to be edgy. Sure, there's no female Shakespeare, but do you read only Shakespeare?

Women I read: Camille Paglia, Susan Sontag, Fran Lebowitz (although she's more interesting as a speaker), Stella Adler. I can not recommend Sexual Personae by Paglia enough.

>>17710287
Women write some really great poetry imo

>>17710287
i started this year with two japanese female authors. i'm not entirely unconscious about choosing female authors, but i certainly don't go out of my way to read them.

>>17718211
>Lol. You don't need to pretend no women have written anything of worth just to be edgy. Sure, there's no female Shakespeare, but do you read only Shakespeare?
where did op insinuate that you collosal mongoloid

>>17718038
Try Flannery O'Connor.

>>17716262
What did you think? Last time I tried to read A Room of One's Own I got bored and couldn't finish.

>>17718249
read the wiki page and she seems pretty cool, will order a few of her short stories, thanks fren :^)

I've read the grand total of around 50 female-written books and maybe 4 of them were above bad.

I try my best to avoid reading anything by women. All they do is bitch about what men do and pass it of as a theory. Useless femoids

>>17712032
Your religion is fan fiction.

I tried reading Jane Austen once. It was good, but I never finished.

>>17710287
Not very often. ~3 months ago. Women just seem to tend to write about things that don't interest me. Romance, family drama, social intrigue and such. I just can't bring myself to give a shit about those sorts of topics.

>>17710287
I'm a big fan of Karen Blixen and Tove Jansson. Other than that, I think my library is 95% male.

>>17710287
I read the Anglo Trifecta (Eliot, Brontë and Woolf) plus Rand one time but that's literally it.

I plan to read female writers after I get through the meme trilogy. Infinite Jest is so hard, I'm at the part where Madame psychosis is introduced and this has been the most difficult chapter yet and not enjoyable at all imo. I've really liked the book upto this section tho

>>17711991
He's a retard using a completely unsourced IQ graph that contradicts most of the research out there, and then using that single number to judge ability in a single field. Why would you even care what he thinks?

>>17715230
man the lady who shops these did a really poor job with this one.

>>17718964
I was just curious why he would think that, seems like he pretty much admitted he doesn’t though.

>>17710287
I'm currently reading Obama's biography. It's pretty widely agreed that all American presidents are transvestites, so that should count. Right?

>>17710287
At the beginning of this week, I tried reading a book written by a woman, and stopped reading it after the 2nd chapter.
It was fucking horrific.

>>17710287
I'm reading one right now. What an insufferable fucking cunt.

>>17710401

>>17711929
source?

>>17710287
A lot
Women for book series and men for singles

I don’t

>>17719610
>>17719704
titles?

So I guess this thread either inspired me to write a fake name or have it edited by a male editor.
Now tell me anons who are not baiting, if you found out a book you liked was written by a woman, would you no longer like the book?

ursula le guin is one of my favorite of all time

>>17719754
the meme machine

>>17715413
I have no idea. I am a bit biased against anti-woman threads but this goes for "all men are pigs" threads on twitter/tumblr too.
So I guess men need a way to vent and rightfully so. I am sick of the sexism on both sides.

>>17719766
>if you found out a book you liked was written by a woman, would you no longer like the book
Yes. I have done this before. Then I found out it was a man with a woman's name and I liked it again.

>>17719766
>if you found out a book you liked was written by a woman, would you no longer like the book?
Yes. Typical of you w*men to have no understanding of betrayal.

Why would reading women be something you specifically go out to do? Why look for it? I try to minimize my reading of female authors because on average they’re usually inferior to the average male writer and the best females I’ve read are far below the best male writers so I don’t see the appeal there either. In fact if I’m interested in a book but I see it’s written by a woman or translated by a woman the appeal of the book is immediately lessened.

As for the last book by a female I’ve read, I read a bit of the waves by Virginia Woolfe and I didn’t care for it. Prior to that I read HD’s book Helen in Egypt and I thought it was honestly garbage. I’ve found the only works by females to be of any merit require the writer to be a mystic and because of that, largely isolated in personality and character from the culture and world spirit that pervades them. And look If you think you have a book by a female that can change my mind, mention it I’ll give the first 10 pages a read before I decide if it’s worth to complete and if the writing is worth my time. But otherwise I see no reason to go out of my way to look for female writers.

>>17719766
Pretty much impossible because I do extensive research on what I read and don’t just read plainly, but if the work was by a female and good I would say it’s good no matter what. It’s just they are almost always in comparison to male written works not worth one’s time. The greatest female novelist or poet you can think of has a thousand man of similar or higher value usually. In any case I’ll still say someone like Marguerite Porete is a good read, but even so she’s surrounded by a host of similar male writers of similar and greater quality. So again I don’t see why one should go out of their way to find a female author and not just read what they find appealing.

>>17710287
Roastie toastie on her phone
Looking for a big bad bone
Swipping left and swipping right
Hoping to find fun tonight

Roastie Toastie feeling sad
Can't get no more dick from Chad
No beta will pay her rent
For Roastie Toastie's snatch is spent

Hit the wall at lightning speed
Thinking you had what you need
Coke and wine and BBC
But Roastie Toastie couldn't see

Now you look three times your age
Filled with Roastie Toastie rage
Has no drive she sits all day
Wishing she could go away

Roastie Toastie's no more good
Watching friends live life as would
Roastie Toastie feeling bad
Shoulda listened to your dad

No one wants her anymore
Roastie Toastie's just a whore
Can't have kids so get some cats
Fill your life with shoes and hats

She had goals and even dreams
All that died in her late teens
Now she's old and salt ensues
Blaming men is her excuse

Roastie Toastie looks around
Families and kids abound
Living life and having fun
Roastie Toastie's nearly done

Roastie Toastie no more thrills
She decides to get some pills
Two at most the label shows
But Roastie Toastie's time is close

>>17719847
Sappho

>>17719820
Your sentence doesn't even make sense.

>>17719868
Thank you for honest answer
>>17719784
Kek who was it

Just did a count rn. There are 84 books on my shelf written by 90 authors (some have more than one author). Of the 90 authors, there are 3 white women, 1 Asian male, 2 Arab males, and 84 white males.

This is excluding a few volumes of ancient literature of unknown authorship, like the Bible.

>>17719966
Never cared for the fragments of hers we have and what we do have is nothing compared to the many male greek and roman poets of antiquity.

>>17719966
Example here’s the Orphic hymn to Aphrodite which I find superior to sappho’s invocation of Aphrodite.

Heav'nly [Ourania], illustrious, laughter-loving queen, sea-born, night-loving, of an awful mien;
Crafty, from whom necessity [Ananke] first came, producing, nightly, all-connecting dame:
'Tis thine the world with harmony to join, for all things spring from thee, O pow'r divine.
The triple Fates [Moirai] are rul'd by thy decree, and all productions yield alike to thee:
Whate'er the heav'ns, encircling all contain, earth fruit-producing, and the stormy main,
Thy sway confesses, and obeys thy nod, awful attendant of the brumal God [Bakkhos]:
Goddess of marriage, charming to the sight, mother of Loves [Eortes], whom banquetings delight;
Source of persuasion [Peitho], secret, fav'ring queen, illustrious born, apparent and unseen:
Spousal, lupercal, and to men inclin'd, prolific, most-desir'd, life-giving., kind:
Great sceptre-bearer of the Gods, 'tis thine, mortals in necessary bands to join;
And ev'ry tribe of savage monsters dire in magic chains to bind, thro' mad desire.
Come, Cyprus-born, and to my pray'r incline, whether exalted in the heav'ns you shine,
Or pleas'd in Syria's temple to preside, or o'er th' Egyptian plains thy car to guide,
Fashion'd of gold; and near its sacred flood, fertile and senpai'd to fix thy blest abode;
Or if rejoicing in the azure shores, near where the sea with foaming billows roars,
The circling choirs of mortals, thy delight, or beauteous nymphs, with eyes cerulean bright,
Pleas'd by the dusty banks renown'd of old, to drive thy rapid, two-yok'd car of gold;
Or if in Cyprus with thy mother fair, where married females praise thee ev'ry year,
And beauteous virgins in the chorus join, Adonis pure to sing and thee divine;
Come, all-attractive to my pray'r inclin'd, for thee, I call, with holy, reverent mind.


Here’s Homer’s

https://www.uh.edu/~cldue/texts/aphrodite.html

Here’s one by Horace.

https://poets.org/poem/book-4-ode-1-venus

>>17719734
Sorry got it from some anon. It's not the usual distribution but I know that a study with a huge data set has been done which arrived at those numbers. Can't remember the researchers name but Molyneux interviewed him at some point.

>>17710287
On my shelves I can see Aphra Behn, Charlotte Bronte, Mary Shelly, Mary Wollstonecraft, Virginia Woolf, Emmeline Pankhurst, The Biography of Vita Sack Sackville-West, The Diary of Anne Frank, Zadie Smith, Dianne Setterfield and Susanna Clarke.
Admittedly I am married, and my wife was a Solomon before I de-Tribed her; most of these will be inherited from her.
There are some good female authors, and anybody who says otherwise has a poor grasp of what constitutes half the human spirit.

>>17710323
>tfw you read Peikoff instead

>>17719992
Lol you can’t even read good luck writing anything worthwhile

>>17718343
Didn't particularly like it but there were funny parts I guess. It was mixed in my book club. It was about half that disliked it and half that praised it. Take that as you will.