/lit/ - Literature

>>17616565
because 4chan is a damp basement where human fungus grows

>>17616565
You know the answer. People almost always look for external sources of wrongdoing because of self-image issues.

Lack of perspective. Lack of experience. Lack of intelligence. Lots of lacking, generally.

Influx of /pol/ and /r9k/ immigrants that decimated the indigenous culture.

>>17616565
it's not, you have never seen anyone draw a causal link between these two things. The closest thing to this anyone would say is that low birth rates are a sign of collapse

>>17616565
>>can't get laid
>>"western civilization is collapsing"
>Why is /lit/ like this?

>>17616588
>implying noone ever seethes about muh degeneracy
>implying some people here don't genuinely think that all women are evil whores

>>17616565
I've had sex and think the current culture is shit. Plenty of people have, you're not unique for something retarded teenagers do.

>>17616565
Lots of men aren't getting laid though, and men by and large are the ones who keep the system churning. What do you think happens when you take their number one incentive to participate away? They either attempt to undermine it, however futile their attempts may be, or they rot slowly in their rooms and eventually kill themselves. Now I wouldn't go so far as say that society is collapsing but it's on the right track to do so if things don't change.

>>17616565
Both can be true and even correlated.

>>17616596
What does that have to do with anything?

>>17616565
>the problem with today is that we can't get laid
litteraly gargle Soros's semen as mayonnaise you retard.

>>17616565
>can't get laid
>western civilization is collapsing
Yes.

>>17616565
I have a loving gf and also think western civilization is collapsing

my god man, she and her friends spend THE ENTIRE FUCKING DAY either on social media or watching netflix. They have 0 depth and no personality. Everyone nowadays just CONSOOOOOMS

>>17616578
/thread
The nihilism of living in an imagined collapse of society is simply a coping mechanism.

>>17616594
>>>can't get laid
>>>"western civilization is collapsing"
>>Why is /lit/ like this?

Do the math

>>17616638
>she and her friends spend THE ENTIRE FUCKING DAY either on social media or watching netflix. They have 0 depth and no personality. Everyone nowadays just CONSOOOOOMS
OP probably thinks that's a good thing kek

>>17616596
>>implying some people here don't genuinely think that all women are evil whores
I do, but I don't whine about not getting pussy because I realized that fucking hookers was the most sincere kind of relationship you could expect from a woman.

>>17616638
Yes because it's a known fact that the average person was an intellectual with lots of depth during until very recently, that's why remember every single person that has lived in every period instead of a select few.

>>17616644
Do you think people who talk about climate change or gabbidalism are also engaging in coping mechanisms about an imagined collapse

>>17616565
i literally cannot think of a single thing more boring than a fucking woman, or fucking a woman. what is the goddamned point? why bother? i could listen to music, or play a video game, or read, or program, or shitpost here, and all and any of those things are a thousand times better than anything i could get from some vapid whore. watching paint dry would be better than fucking a woman, because at least then i wouldn't have to spend time around one and could pretend i live in a blissful womanless universe without thots to distract me from doing literally anything else. i hate women so much i can't even stand people who like them. the only thing lower than a woman is a man who worships them, there is absolutely nothing more pathetic in the world. at least women can say it's just their nature, the woman-worshipping man has no such excuse. i just can't fucking stand them, every single thing about women pisses me off
>inb4 gay
i'm very much attracted to women. i just don't fucking *like* them

>>17616652
>a platform for quick sex encourages slutty behavior
>this says a lot about society

>>17616565
Capitalism

>>17616676
I don't think you understand the graph

>>17616670
the reason is big cums. yeah it's a total meme but your chimp brain is programmed against your will to chase big cums, at the expense of everything else in life. it sucks but what can you do?

>>17616676
I've had a conversation with a girl about dating where she literally quoted this exact 80% of men are below average in looks stat and said that's exactly how girls feel lol
also okcupid is for people looking to date, not to hook up

>>17616638
Yes because it's a known fact that the average person was a well-read intellectual with refined taste for high culture for most of history until very recently, that's why we remember every single person that has lived in every period instead of a select few.

>>17616692
>also okcupid is for people looking to date, not to hook up

>>17616565
This is why women are capitalistic and men are communist.

Girls want to be gazed at by handsome men, which would appear to be great entertainers ,especially sexually, and free of charge since girls want men to pay for the seduction. for instance a girl refuses to pay or work for sex. It's always the man who must pay and amuse the girl . it's the competition. Women do not compete for men


Now it turns out 99% of men are not handsome and worse, women hate when repulsive men even think of having a chance with them.

So the problem for a girl is really her own making: a girl lives a lavish life from the male competition for her, and from this male despair of winning the competition, as usual, some men don't take well the defeat and some men cheat, some men go over the line.

ALL of this is due to the men putting women and their conception at the center of their life.
Men put women on a pedestal only because women benefit from this, women leech off men.

This parasitic life of the female works well on a global scale, but there will always be fuck ups.
This is the price to pay by women-as-a-whole.

Even the life of a woman is not entirely free of charge and the price is just having to deal with the few mean who overstep their bounds.

Although to be fair, when a woman FEELS (and it's all what is relevant) harassed, she starts crying and due to the competitive nature of the female-male relation, the males orbiting her will start defending her free of charge (as usual, men don't have the luxury to make women pay for the male service) and trying to solve her problems.

Males actually love to be disposable. The whole drive of a male is to be acknowledged as being useful. Men are the proletariat.

>>17616693
If you read personal letters from regular average people 100 years ago, you'll find out today's equivalent is absolutely retarded

>when you think about the future of society for more than five seconds

>>17616596
>muh degeneracy

But, this is a total farce built on fee fees.

>I saw two guys kissing today, the world is crumbling all around me.

>>17616665
Yes you not getting laid is comparable to fucking climate change. Jesus Christ.

>>17616718
a total collapse of birth rates and replacement by immigration is much more evidence of collapse than anything in climate change science

>>17616681
I think you don’t understand it and are too emotionally attached to it. Tinder doesn’t represent the reality

>>17616730
It's an enormous stretch to say civilization is collapsing because some brown people were imported.

>>17616708
this desu

>>17616734
I didn't say it represents society, your post was just completely unrelated to the content of the graph. It's about the way men and women rate physical attractiveness. It is probably at least related to the same phenomenon irl, but there are many more factors there then when you're going off nothing but a photograph.

>>17616730
>a total collapse of birth rates and replacement by immigration
Any non-white-supremacist arguments?

>>17616747
I didn't say that though did I, I said 'total collapse of birth rates and replacement by immigration'. This is not historically normal

>>17616710
>>17616747
just because you don't understand what things mean doesn't mean they don't mean anything
if you won't meet people halfway and try to understand why they see the meaning they see in those things, why bother talking to them? it'll just be gibberish to you, and everything you say will be gibberish to them

>>17616676
By the time people settle down they're so jaded and fucked in the head that they can onky raise another even more dyfunctional generation. It's a positive feedback loop. I'm all for the natural eugenic effect of ppl trying to date up, but social media and OLD are totally disconnected from reality.

>>17616768
Calling something white supremacist isn't actually an argument. Do you disagree with either point, are birth rates not way below replacement? Are native populations not being steadily replaced by immigrants?

>>17616747
If you state it like that sure, but fact is western civilization is collapsing because hordes of brown people were and are being imported and they breed faster and more than whites and bring their retarded cultures with them instead of assimilating (yes even more retarded than western "culture")

>>17616708
>>17616753
Post one.

what do you gain from strawman arguments like this?

>>17616789
https://harrisonpl.org/harrison-remembers/items/show/97

>>17616565
>can't debate
>"have sex incel"
Why is nu-/lit/ like this?

>>17616785
There you go. And you know you will never be taken seriously because the average person isn't a fucking wignat. And this gives you a feeling of superiority over the "brainwashed masses". And it gives you a weird sense of comfort knowing society is collapsing and there's nothing you can do about it because your only argument refers to white nationalism and you know it. Nihilism.

>>17616747
you must be young. wait until you see the transformation of civilized to barbaric. you'll understand. it's inevitable. read some mccarthy.

>>17616820
Do you really think a population being replaced by different populations from different parts of the world doesn't qualify for some definition of 'collapse'?

>>17616820
More and more people are realising this, anon. Your comment seems like you feel superior over others too so who cares? There's definitely things that can be done, doesn't mean it will be easy. But you can't refute what I stated anyway so you have to spew bile like this.

>>17616815
>>17616815
Now post half a billion more letters like this to prove the average person was like that.

>>17616876
Find me a letter from 100 years ago that's as retarded as the average message from our times instead

>>17616707
>This is why women are capitalistic and men are communist.
It’s literally the opposite

>>17616886
>comparing text messages to letters

>>17616817
Have sex

>>17616876
Go watch a civil war documentary you lazy nigger. I didn't know when I woke up that I was supposed to spend my day finding century old letters for a retarded child. People are eloquent when all their reading is the King James Bible and have to write actual letters to talk to their loved ones. Fuck I wish my ancestors were killed by Indians so every single American would never have existed, solely because I hate you that much.

>>17616892
>implying text messages aren't more retarded than letters
Well give me an example of a retarded letter from 100 years ago then

>>17616650
Is it strange that I associate this image with intellectualism now? If I see the "ugly glasses wojak" being put as a face behind some opinion I can usually assume it's a better opinion than whatever his detractor believes.

>>17616817
its easier to just strawman everything and not have to think

>>17616913
>>17616915
>romanticizing a deprecated method of communication this hard

>>17616934
Still haven't shown me a retarded letter from 100 years ago anon, why not?

/shit/, formerly /lit/

>>17616930
See
>>17616912

As a brown man from a third world country, I'll have to agree with the nationalists
The USA, Canada and Europe are the shining jewels of civilization, examples for the rest of the world to hope to achieve someday
All cultures are evolutionary constructs and some are bound to achieve more than others (and serve as examples)
The whole world is going to regret what's happening there, when mediocrity become uniform and all unique things from everywhere become extinct

>>17616959
case in point

>>17616959

>>17616949
I don't spend my time LARPing as if I lived in the 18th century so I don't really care about letters from that time. Why would you save a retarded letter instead of a soldier's writing to his family?

>>17616972
sneed

>>17616961
>As a brown man from a third world country,

>>17616974
>coping because there's none to be found
Aren't soldiers average people too? Find me a retarded soldier's letter and then we'll talk

>>17616915
>>17616949
LETTERS ARENT TEXT MESSAGES YOU DUMB NIGGER

>>17616981
Based

>>17616972
Sneed

>>17616607
If most men's primary purpose is nothing but getting laid then society was fucked from the beginning lol

>>17616961
The New World Order is destroying us all. The West is just one part of the whole.

>>17616994
But text messages are inherently more retarded than letters you sperg, thanks for proving my point

>>17616815
Comfy
>>17616707
Where was this from?

>>17616565
I think you need to check your privilege to be honest. Many incels are men of colour, you sound like a chad white male with no problem getting girls.

>>17616892
>>17616876
>thinking people today raised on mass media soundbites and smartphones are no different than people from 100 years ago
The average person has always been mediocre, but the society they were living in was on the whole much more erudite and less ADHD. Things have been progressively dumbed down in America for decades.

>>17616992
No, soldiers have a completely different experience from average people. I'm really trying to understand how you can be this much of a brainlet to think some cherrypicked letter from a soldier to his family is an argument for the average person being an intellectual.

>>17616912
Dilate
Sneed
>>17616990

>>17616949
home in three days. don't wash.

>>17617022
They aren't "more retarded", they're more efficient. This is literal common sense.

>>17617034
Do you know anything about the world wars you smoothbrain? Regular people were sent into battle, they weren't the standard soldiers.
No one said the average person was an intellectual, I said the average person 100 years was less retarded than today, which is absolutely true.
Now find me a retarded letter from 100 years ago or fuck off.

>>17616565
Western civilization has been collapsing since Enlightenment (with roots going back further). This isn't up for debate or about your fee fees. The ease and the qualities by which you get laid is precisely just another confirmation of it. Only subhumans whose existence consists of postnut bliss think everything is OK.

>>17617049
Seems fine to me
>>17617051
No, they're not more efficient you zoomer. It's not common sense at all, the average person nowadays have a stunted vocabulary compared to 100 years ago.

Since this retarded faggot refuses to accept that handwritten letters were more erudite than today's text messages I've attached a telegram. That he couldn't even think up this as bait is a telling sign that he is too busy sucking cock to think FULL STOP

>>17616889
If women didn't exist communism would actually work.

>>17616565
Nobody actually is like this, incels hate Western culture. It's just a strawman used to deflect criticism.

>>17616747
Either bait or very naïve

>>17616565
>believe that everything is going great or I'll call you an incel
very convincing.

>>17617224
He probably never ever had to sit down and really write something, he never had to consider how to best express an idea without rambling too much, never really gave any thought about writing concise, thoughtful statements instead of whatever came up on his mind in a series of cobbled together paragraphs
That's the things you have to consider when handwriting letters for other people to see, and the practice really benefits one's capacity of expression

>>17616820
>muh only wignats complain about immigration
The vast majority of people want a lot less immigration.

>>17616676
>people this stupid spend their time and voice their opinion here every day

>>17616913
Same honestly.

>>17616565
Oh look it's another 'debate' where both sides are already dead set on their positions and just basedjak each other. Can these threads go to /pol/ where they belong?

>>17616565
idk

>>17617348
>muh cee cee pee
Fuck off boomer.

>>17617251
Nothing would work
>>17616913
Just read the autobiographic White Jacket by Melville and the vocabulary of common sailors (subject to harsh conditions and corporal punishments), their enjoyment of books and their manner of reciting bible verses from the King James Bible to illustrate ordinary happenings is impressive

Leftist and liberal types don't interact with people outside their sphere. Thats how they maintain their delusion.
If they literally talked to working class people, they would see that they are ideological enemies.
At my job, a bunch of black co-workers were discussing the pandemic and everyone there did not believe covid exists, running contrary to the belief that the liberals have that only white supremacists do not believe in covid. That whole GME thing; those guys were all white supremacists, they had to be shut down. The great boogeyman of today is white supremacists.
Leftists ought to realize that everyday people do not believe in trans rights or whatever bullshit. They believe in the Illuminati; they are superstitious. POC do not get along with other, different POC groups; it's political expediency. The exact same can be said for the LGBTs.
Lastly, do you ever hear modern leftists discuss economic justice, the original agenda of leftism/Marxism? No. They are just woke capitalists now.

>>17616596
>either no one ever seethes against degeneracy or everyone is an incel
go clean your ass it stinks of cum.

Do people still have sex lmao?

>>17617430
>Lastly, do you ever hear modern leftists discuss economic justice, the original agenda of leftism/Marxism? No. They are just woke capitalists now.

Leftists and Marxists never cared about economic justice, they just used that to mobilize the rabble to revolt so they could take power. Now that they hold all the institutional power in the world, there is no more reason to make any serious appeals to the working class.

>>17616565
>can't get laid
>don't care about society

>>17616999
but the based index should be on the y axis
sneed

>>17616565
Projection and need to shift blame

>>17617508
Imagine still having sex in the 21st century lmao

>>17617539
It's a weird pattern. Feminism destroys feminity. Humanism destroys humanity. Socialism destroys the working class. The Enlightenment is counter to the original meaning of the word.
It's like it was all just a psyop all along.

>>17617539