/lit/ - Literature

Probably whatever tells you how to make LSD.

>>17614113
Making LSD is pretty much impossible

>>17614109
Even though I am familiar with this subject matter, comprehending this extremely autistic chart is a challenge. Why "we"? Does it refer to the human and divine self? To the individual human and to humanity? What the hell am I looking at? Why is the phrasing so shit on most of these?

>>17614189
I don't know man I didn't make it

>>17614198
But you posted it, anon. Why would you post something you don't understand? Anyway, to offer you something that may or may not be useful, check out Evola's Yoga of Power. It's a book on left-hand path Tantra, although without defining your terms more precisely it is hard to know if it is what you are looking for.

>>17614227
CHIM is just a lore term from a video game to describe complete individuation to the point of "waking up from the world" more or less.

>>17614233
This is the goal of both the left and right hand path, though. It's the goal of any genuine spiritual tradition.

>>17614239
The opposition between CHIM and zero sum is that the former is individuation to the point of exiting reality, while the latter is dissolution.

>>17614246
I can only reiterate what I said earlier. To my knowledge, the right hand path, traditionally, does not at all even remotely refer to dissolution. So absolute individuation - your CHIM option - would be equivalent to both the left and the right hand path. Be mindful that different people may use different terminology for this, but as I see it the right hand path consists in striving after transcendence in a virtuous and regular manner, whereas the left hand path also strives after transcendence but is unafraid from resorting to paradoxical and seemingly negative or counter-productive means in order to provoke an awakening.

>>17614260
>paradoxical and seemingly negative or counter-productive means
In a moral sense?

>>17614144
it's fucking easy.

>>17614273
Even in a spiritual sense. For example, the use of drugs, wine, sex, etc. Tantrists may or may not organise orgies in order to provoke an awakening. Similarly, some Tantric traditions may even involve the use of black magic for highly specific purposes in order to provoke highly specific developments. These of course are more towards the extreme end.

>>17614293
I see. I figured the left-hand path was about "becoming God" and the right-hand path about "reuniting with God" but from what you're saying it's just a difference between methods.

>>17614109
I am a mystic.
I looked way to long on this horrible graphic trying to make any sense of it.

Thank you for wasting my time.

>>17614109
The 36 Lessons of Vivec
The 37th Lesson of Vivec
Mythic Dawn Commentaries by Mankar Camoran
Vehk's Teachings

>>17614308
>I am a mystic.

>>17614303
Yes. Also both "becoming God" and "reuniting with God" are the same thing from certain perspectives. There was one Sufi who notoriously got executed for heresy because he was unwise enough to share his insight on this precise question.

I'm literally Talos manifested in reality.

AMA.

>>17614109
Have sex

Read actual occult literature and stop letting videogames define your frame of reference for just about fucking anything.

>>17614367
I did, didn't help

>>17614109
left hand path books like Karlsson on qliphots-
you have to know kabbala to achieve that state.
also knowing salomic and enochian

>>17614109
my diary desu
unironically
i achieved chim yesterday but got bored so i became normal again

>>17614109
factually incorrect.
only the first two mean anything.

>>17614661
Explain

>>17614739
basically, ekstasys is actually stable.

>>17614741
In this context does God refer to a personal god or to the essence of being?

>>17614144
>>17614283
I had a proper look into it once, its hard as fuck.

>>17614786
if you have to ask that you have a problem, the two things are not mutually exclusive.

>>17614109
The 36 Lessons of Vivec

>>17614808
Keep making most shitpost replies in this thread anon, I am afraid that no one actually cares or finds it funny, though.

>>17614833
If you want to learn CHIM than perhaps reading the wisdom of one of the few men who have achieved it might be a good first step

>>17614109
So what if I know I am God? What is it called and what do I do?

>>17614109
The left hand path? Read Aleister Crowley

>>17614843
Oh wait lmao is this fucking chart from Morrowwind?

>>17614808
>>17614833
>>17614923
ROFL

>>17614833

>>17614923
yes lol what did you think it was

>>17614283
It's a synthetic drug. Tell me your process.

>>17615190
Idk I just assumed some anon was trolling the thread by implying that the left hand path can be mastered by reading Elder Scrolls lore.

>>17614923
>Oh wait lmao is this fucking chart from Morrowwind?

>>17616100
Looks like Hitler had a heated gamer moment.

Entire canons of metaphysical debate spanning generations and cultures and you invest in the LSD-driven diary entries of a burnt-out video game writer...

>>17614109

>>17614109
Read Nietzsche
Foucault
Books about Zen Buddhism
Liber Null
Jung
Joe Rogan Podcast
And do ahuyasca three times.

>>17614189
it looks exactly like the kind of stuff that my brother would write during his two psychoses.

>>17616341
One of these things isn't like the others
It's Zen Buddhism

>>17614109
Here's how I interpret this.
The first bubble shows most peoples view
>Knowing they exist and that the world around / reality exists (here called God), but seeing them as separate phenomena.
Then the second and third bubbles shows the realization that these are the same phenomena, part of the same process.
Then you have the last two, CHIM and ZERO SUM.
Chim is seeing yourself as everything. Zero Sum is seeing everything as yourself. The latter is more powerful but the former more appealing to brainlets.

>>17616952
>Chim is seeing yourself as everything. Zero Sum is seeing everything as yourself.
So according to your definition, CHIM is Brahman and Zero Sum is solipsism.

>>17616991
No, reverse the two.

>>17617004
How is one more powerful than the other?

>>17617061
Well I just say that as a personal preference thing actually. I personally think seeing everyone as the same guy, rather then being the only guy yourself, is a generally more useful mindset

>>17617080
It's the same thing in the end.

>>17617091
Yeah kinda.

>>17614109
What's this schizo nonsense?

>>17614109
sounds demonic

>>17615151
that dude lived in a cozy hovel

>>17618502
yes crosscuck everything is demonic