/lit/ - Literature

>>17581432
Just get rich, faggot

>>17581432
These memes are a manlet cope. I've never met a tall person who wasn't interesting.

>>17581465
Google halo effect, stupid femoid

Why on earth do you want a girlfriend? Are you so empty that you require another human being to be content?

>>17581462
>Just get rich
I am a software-engineer making six-figures but that does absolutely nothing if you are horrendously ugly.

>>17581432
Buy two copies of Infinite Jest and tie them to your shoes, manlet.

>>17581472
Do you actually believe tall men aren't interesting?

>>17581432
Just be confident lol

It may sound like a platitude but its literally all that you need to get girls

>>17581483
Pay for plastic surgery then, faggot

>>17581507
BASED ADVICE I WILL BE MYSELF

>>17581497
Is 5'9" manlet tier? I spent the last four years browsing 4Chan everyday for at least two hours and cannot tell what reality really is anymore.

>>17581432
Lupin had the type of personality that was very attractive, both among characters and readers, and he was described as being average height, which was not 6ft back in his time. But I don't think a book alone will really help you copy that, it's a matter of self-confidence.

>>17581539
You shouldn't be yourself if you're not confident, you need to take care of that first

>>17581465
this

there is no light at the end of the tunnel for manlets, only the warm darkness of the void

>>17581556
God please lmao. No, you're fine.

>>17581506
>all tall men are interesting
totally not biased

>>17581576

>>17581465
heh

>>17581432
Suicide maybe?

>>17581576
>I'm middle eastern
Literally just move to Yemen, it's that simple. The Yemeni are so inbred and malnourished that they'd be like 10-15 cm shorter than him on average.

>>17581432
My personality is being 5'4"

>>17581576
>dude has a huge fucking mega dick in his pants
This guy is an absolute failure. There are girls who will stay with the ugliest of men if he is well-endowed.

>>17581506
>all tall men are interesting
Are you mentally handicapped?

>>17581610
My personality is being 5'4, while really being 6'2

>>17581432
I've lived in california, utah, and idaho, I have visited and spent time with a ton of cousins in minnesota, wisconsin, and michigan, and I think at least for white dudes being 6 ft plus is not that abnormal.
I'm assuming that outside of the midwest and rocky mountain states and the west coast, people are on average shorter?
These memes are fucking weird and normal male height probably depends on where you are.

>>17581617
>>17581576
If he's Middle Eastern his whole post is a meme. He can literally get an arranged marriage with a traditional girl from the old country, his parents probably know a bunch of people. People can't make it in the degenerate Western dating/hookup culture and give up completely instead of just going the trad route. He's rotted his brain with incel drivel for years, and he probably puts white women on a pedestal as well (lol). Many such cases!

>>17581637
>These memes are fucking weird
Average height statistics often include elderly people too who bring down the numbers. Yeah, being 6ft is very common for men today. Guys who are shorter really have an extremely rough time, especially when they try to get a girlfriend.

>>17581602
>>17581617
>>17581668
did any of you guys even read >>17581586

>>17581669
You know what though? When they find a chick they know it's legit.
I wish all my short bros out there the best of luck and would like to remind you that the world is not as brutal as bullshit online forums would have you believe.

>>17581669

>>17581673
No, I only read that after I posted because the thread hadn't updated for me yet. I don't think you realise how short Yemenis actually are, though. They're like 150 cm tall.
>>17581684
>the world is not as brutal as bullshit online forums would have you believe
It should be, though.

MY TALLEST

>>17581673
Yeah, I read it. Dude literally let modern Western expectations of having a girlfriend/ banging a large number of girls live rent free in his head. Now he's sad he can't be a "Chad" (read: degenerate). Pretty sure this dude is from a Muslim background and I have absolutely no sympathy for him

>>17581714
>It should be, though
kikish perspective to be frank with you bro

>>17581698
>81% of men are "below average"
Holy fucking based, lmao. On the flip side at least they won't be bagging many men since they hate us so much, so they'll probably have sex with a wider range of people.

>>17581432
>imagine not being born tall

Ngmi

>>17581718
Not really, the world is already super shit, if it's even more shit then maybe more people will get a grip and do something about it.

>>17581432
OP image reeks of cope. Chances are you don't have a great personality either if you can't get girls

Does nobody have actual advice for OP?

>>17581728

>>17581739
can you not read my man

>>17581750
I think Hemingway said it best, memes aside. In order to hold nothingness, darkness, 'nada' at bay, we must have light, cleanliness, order (or discipline), and dignity. If everything else has failed, man must have something to resort to or else the only option is suicide—and that is the ultimate end of everything.

>>17581738
again, rather kikish.
We've gotta watch out for each other. This capitalistic war of all against all is a recent invention of the media and advertising, mostly to get us to work ourselves to the bone and fuck each other over so we can't form unions, start families, make art or build our culture (or any sort of highly desireable human activity other than working for a multinational corporation).
Step 1- stop being a bitch, don't see other people's achievements as insults to you. There is such a thing as "us," if you watch out for it you'll find that all of the signals trying to convince you otherwise come from globohomo.

>>17581729
Sounds like hell on your mother's body.

>>17581576
Kant was 5’2, Nietzsche 5’8, Napoleon 5’7, Sartre 5’0, Goethe 5’5 and I could go on and on
>inb4 manlet
yes I am nothing wrong with that

>>17581684
i know there are women who prefer short men and more yet who don’t really care about height. however, a lot of what you’ll find on dating apps are women looking to be fucked and degraded by tall insane europeans who won’t look at them twice afterwards, and when you make women your primary goal meeting these types will damage your soul. find a goal that isn’t having-woman-in-abstract and then this strange hookup culture sociopathy will roll off of you like water on a duck’s back. the only way to get a woman is by not scaring her off by pinning all of your hopes, dreams, and success on her.

>Book to get personality
Instead of thinking that books level up your stats, get a job or hobby that forces you to be social ie. service industry, volunteer work, etc.

>>17581768
True.

>>17581771
lay off the polshit

JUST TELL ME HOW TO GET A FUCKING PERSONALTIY AND BE A GOOD PERSON SO PEOPLE WONT HATE ME ANYMORE

>>17581752
Some areas (America, Scandinavia) are more fucked than others, tbf. Online apps are kinda screwed up too. You've got better odds in RL environments. A lot of women are passive, lonely and horny and male presence can activate them pretty well.
>>17581771
There's nothing wrong with the world being hard, anon. It will probably get harder, anyway.

>>17581780
well said bro
dating apps have got to be one of the worst recent developments for the mental health of young men.
I think an extremely small group of chicks hangs out on them for more than a week or two.
The story I hear from my gf and her friends (a decent group of girls in my opinion) is that they download the app, try messaging a few guys, get creeped out or threatened, and delete the app. Otherwise they hang out on there never meeting up with anyone, until one decent guy takes them out on a date proper, next thing you know they're getting married. So there's a paucity of quality chicks on the apps, so you're faced with the most sadistic and borderline chicks who use them to supplement their deficit of validation/self worth, and a lot of guys end up thinking this is how women are.

>>17581799
I'm just speaking the truth about our situation man.

>>17581771
based but he's not entirely wrong either, the world becoming more shitty because of the big noses is driving more people to wake up and realize something's wrong at least

>>17581799
tourist

>>17581811
>hmmm today I am going to ask a bunch of irony poisoned schizoid zoomers on 4chan how to get a personality
Poor strategy. I don't know if I have a "personality" either, but start with your values and principles, then articulate them and live by them. There you go. Personality. As to what kind of personality, it depends on how you want to develop and what are your innate traits.

>>17581465
If anything this proves manlets think like women. If you're tall people usually don't notice much else about you.

>>17581586
I hate that it is socially acceptable to make fun of incels. Life is so unfair and people who are not born into that should at least have compassion.

>>17581825
>>17581828

another one bites the dust

>>17581813
It's frustrating to see you young bucks on here actively choose to live in a media constructed hell world. Gluttons for punishment, I'll never understand it. The conversation always goes this way, you guys can't possibly imagine that I'm right, the possibility that things are better than you think, or that better conditions can be easily produced, is just totally beyond your imagination.
Tons of rationalization to keep it beyond the horizon of possibility.

>>17581768
>we must have light, cleanliness, order (or discipline), and dignity
Empty ideals which provide absolutely nothing. If you are genuinely lonely, your body as well as your mind will deteriorate no matter what. The mind cannot overpower simple biology.

>>17581828
>tourist
yes because if there's anything that 4chan's about it's helping each other out ;)

>>17581861
no you're tourist because you are assmad about "polshit" phoneposter. dilate tranny

>>17581860
>The mind cannot overpower simple biology.
Of course it can.

>>17581850
You are a coping retard if you think that "better conditions can be easily produced". If you think so, why don't you enlighten me on what your grand plan is? Way I see it, things are the worst they've ever been, will indefinitely keep getting worse, almost no one wants to do anything to fix the situation (which is hard to fix anyway) and the ones that do want to fix things are both inept and universally reviled. I don't want your copes. I don't even feel that bad about the situation anymore. Just because things are terrible does not mean that you have to be a hopeless, soulless coward. You can still fight a hopeless battle, but it's generally wise to recognise it as such rather than pretend otherwise.

>>17581840
I don't support the radical incels who want to "make women sex slaves" and go commit mass shootings, but there is an epidemic of loneliness and disillusionment amongst young men today. Widespread adoption of social media and unrealistic standards to be compared against, easy access to vast amounts pornography, lack of strong father figures and many other factors all contributed to where we are today

>>17581576
>>17581586
5'5 isn't even that bad. Just wear some 2-inch lifts.

>>17581815
yeah, i think you’re right. any woman worth getting to know is usually out of place and seeking a partner and will delete the app as soon as she meets one whereas girls who are on the app for months and go on a bunch of dates are seeking unfulfilling hookups and will accordingly be both disciminatory and repulsive as they want nothing from you. i think they also have this fantasy that they can convert these manwhore eurotrash guts into their loving husbands. the women are either low-quality or gone in a flash.

>>17581840
social darwinism has no sympathy for its victims just as nature doesn’t. as much as normals love to brag about living in a woke and progressive world we ridicule those who lose the genetic lottery. I say incels need to continue their revolt against the rejection of society due to limitations beyond their control. this is the only way for change or they will continue to be laughing stock who fade into obscurity eventually killing themselves.

nobody will ever like me
i wish i hadn't been born

>>17581506
Some are, some aren't. It has nothing to do with height, it has to do with being interesting. Height isn't an epiphenomenon of height.

>>17581860
>Empty ideals which provide absolutely nothing
How are these empty ideals?

>>17581866
>being assmad about 2016 bullshit makes you the tourist

wew

>>17581887
Incel isn't a political ideology, it's just sad and/or angry people. I think it has very little to do with the things you mention, the problem is the collapse of monogamy. More women now reproduce with the top of the hierarchy and the bottom widens. The problem always existed but by now it effects a large percentage of the male population.

>>17581886
Alright man, I can see you're getting mad and I never get much out of these conversations once my interlocutor starts getting all emotional.
If you wanna do me a major solid, I would really like you to consider where these attitudes and ideas come from, who they benefit, and whether or not the social signals to which your respond are coming from real life or from media.

>>17581432
Getting over your height insecurity would be a good start.

>>17581910
absolutely irrelevant thoughts coming from you bro

>>17581893
The only realistic political scenario for people in this situation is the social enforcement of monogamy and I don't see that as a popular issue among the disaffected. But obviously there won't be a political solution, it will happen through technology and within this century.

>>17581935
no, your brain's just atrophied

What are some characters in literature with a great personality?
I was trying to think of real people I could look at to see what they do, what makes a personality, but I don't know anyone
So what are some characters from books I can emulate as a start?

>>17581850
>young bucks on here actively choose to live in a media constructed hell world
Some men are on the lowest ends of the dominance-hierarchy due to various reasons and I can assure you that the world how it often is depicted on 4Chan is wholesome compared to their real life.

>>17581910
no, bowling over a perfectly reasonable and articulate post from some guy expressing his genuine beliefs so you can make an utterly contentless "fuc u pol" post from your phone makes you a tourist

if i see a muslim i don't go "lay off the islam" to him even though i hate muslims, i either fully engage him or i don't engage him, because my brain isn't programmed in phone typing twitter response black/white red/blue us/them for/against logic like yours is, because i actually use 4chan, where even replying to a retarded shitposting faggot has some kind of effort involved (whether it's a light joke or an effortpost like this one)

go ahead and reply with "lol k have sex" or "lol ive been here" flat negation of what i'm saying instead of anything remotely interesting again, and prove you're a tourist. just know thousands of lurkers are watching us right now and nodding thoughtfully while reading my pro-racism post, and you seem gay to them because you don't belong. just know that as a 45 year old man who has been posting on 4chan since 2006 i am infinitely superior to you.

>>17581954
Emulate Emma Bovary and kys faggot

>>17581960
upvote

>>17581960
jesus somebunny needs pussy

>>17581921
I am not mad, we are just on 4chan.
>If you wanna do me a major solid, I would really like you to consider where these attitudes and ideas come from, who they benefit, and whether or not the social signals to which your respond are coming from real life or from media.
I don't care about women, if that's what you are thinking. It's the state of society I am abhorred with. This includes the problem of the two sexes, of course.

>>17581673
>read

I'm not a fucking nerd, nerd

>>17581965
Why are you being mean to me? I know I'm not a good person and I want to better myself

>>17581960
>my brain isn't programmed in phone typing twitter response black/white red/blue us/them for/against logic

says the polshitter...

>>17581586
Braindead coomer only thinking of sex

>>17581949
I agrees with you 100%, also putting limitations on this acceleration of hypergamy we’ve seen this last decade and the reason it is what it is now is capitalism. so many men continue to throw money to dating apps, only fans, streamers, etc. just for a sliver of attention from women when this has never been the case at all in history for men. Corporations know this exploitation is taking place and continue to adhere to it despite the societal consequences.
>But obviously there won't be a political solution, it will happen through technology and within this century.
Interestingz I’m fascinated to hear how you would interpret that as a solution.

>>17581970
just a heads-up, constantly referring to the name of the website is pathognomonic newfag.

>>17581976
There are only two characters in the history of literature worthy of imitation: sancho and don quijote.
See which one is closer to your soul and let the act begin.

>>17581970
guess again newfag this is 4channel

>>17581997
>"oooh nooo oooh nooo he called me a newfag!"
boo hoo cry me a river homosexual

>>17581997
hold up buddy why are you posting this on boards.4channel.org? lurk more FAG

>>17581954
Edmond Dantes
Sherlock Holmes

>>17582012
(You)

THERE BETTER NOT BE NEWFAGGOTS IN THIS THREAD

>>17581698
The average woman may spend up to several hours a day perfecting the presentation of her body. The average man MIGHT brush his hair that morning. These numbers result from the fact that we expect women to make themselves beautiful, while guys are just what they are.

>>17581580
>>17581622
>>17581906
Then why do people say tall guys' personality is their height? You are all morons and have created your own trap.

>>17582033
prove me wrong

>>17581768
I don't think it's worth much considering he actually killed himself.

>>17581811
>SO PEOPLE WONT HATE ME ANYMORE

>NOOOO PEOPLE HAVE TO LIKE OR I'LL HAVE NO WORTH, I MUST BE AT THE MERCY OF OTHER PEOPLE TO GET SELF-ESTEEM, I MUST CONSOOOOOOME THE VALUES THEY GIVE ME

>>17581994
Well, virtual reality and advanced robotics are within reach. Genetic manipulation if things go right will actually abolish the incel. We won't have hierarchies as we used to when people are all super intelligent and beautiful athletes. It's very strange to think about how this world will look like but we already know it's possible and that we will do it.

>>17582056
Because memes are usually retarded

>>17582064
Yes
Maybe being lonely works for you, but it's making me miserable

>>17581811
This is actually very easy. People like you in relation to what you can provide for them. If you are generous you will be liked.

>>17581970
That's not what I'm thinking man.
This extremely cynical approach, where you take failure for granted and describe the future as "hopeless," is extremely beneficial to people who would prefer if you gave up everything.
I'm pulling my ideas here from Lasch's culture of narcissism, debord's sos, ballard, G+D. The social situation you inhabit is dynamic and responds to your approach, you might find that things improve if you adopt a generally more positive, community-oriented, bond-building posture. Downstream from that, if enough dudes picked that up, conditions at large would improve. It's an attitude thing, we're all vulnerable to propaganda and propaganda is universal. In the west, the propaganda tries to convince you that the conditions of now are permanent, that nothing different can occur in the future, that our individual or group actions can accomplish nothing. Look at the way we conceive of a group action- the impotent "insurrection," and the obnoxious/impotent "BLM" events this summer, managed to maintain alienation and individualism WHILE presenting the simulation of a mass action, thus cucking the libido of the group, an action contained entirely within the range of what the system right now can manage.
Exactly what seems impossible is what you're going to need to do, and surprisingly, it's gentleness, forgiveness, friendship, and community that will get you there. Use your imagination and form an idea of an "us," which will require you to not obsess on your perceived shortcomings- a self-fulfilling prophecy and antisocial habit built by advertising-induced narcissism.

>>17582083
>just be a doormat bro!

>>17582057
But you are not wrong, anon, you're just an autist.

>>17582101
ya where do you think we are?

>>17582080
You're a fucking dualist faggot, I have a loving gf and best friends and I'll never be at their mercy to have self-esteem not anyone elses
This isn't about being alone, its about you not being assertive

>>17582097
No you see, this is how all human relationships function. You cannot escape it. Individually we're just interested in ourselves so any cooperation has to be based on reciprocity.

>>17581432
Their poor taste and hypergamous nature should inform you on women.
Once the kids are born you will try and bang 18 yr olds in the same way you currently think you want to be married.
If you're short and not white you should transition and join the mutt tranny underclass which our economic overloads theorised already decades ago now, however, but if you are European then the complete works of Shakespeare will do you fine.

>>17582114
>This isn't about being alone,
For me it is, I want people to like me so they spend time with me so I don't have to be alone
I don't think you can understand, because you have other people

>>17582090
Just because it's hopeless doesn't mean I've given up anon. On the contrary, holding hope that repeatedly fails you, can make anyone give up.
>>17582110
Good point, but just because we are in the heartland of the autist reich doesn't mean I don't get to call people autistic.

>>17582151
I think your problem is more of a practical one then, you need to make a bit of social threading to find people to engage with
If you're a neet you don't get to be sad for being alone, go out and join shit you like, get a job, etc

>>17581432
The book fo Proverbs has all you need as far as life advice goes

>>17581576
All short guys need to do to end the misery is develop a dommy mommy gf fetish

Not even trying to shitpost; sexual attraction is a choice that can be developed by repeated exposure in conjunction with a pleasurable stimuli such as fapping via Pavlovian conditioning (this is why the idea of homosexuality being a choice isn't off the table yet). If you don't like being shorter than girls, literally just teach yourself to like it.

Naturally however, dulling sadness through perverted fantasy-training will probably just turn you into a different kind of empty shell, as will watching porn in general. If you think you'll be miserable no matter what then just take your pick: live out a submissive pipe dream or be thankful for whatever you do have now, at least stop bitching

The way I see it, the only way to get people onboard with the incel cause is for incels to concentrate their attacks and criticisms on Tinder and dating apps, which is at the root of the problem that plagues the current dating scene.
There's already an amateur YT documentary out there that details just how insidiously Tinder manipulates human relations.
It would rally both the right and the left, since the right despises it for spreading degeneracy and the left wouldn't miss a chance to stick it to a private company.
It would also get the majority of people because it would provoke a strike a cord with the majority that feels that modern relationships are shallow and unfulfilling.
Just a piece of advice from a sympathetic volcel.

>>17582216
I'm not a NEET, I'm in university
Haven't made a single friend here. I don't think just going outside will fix things, I need to figure out how to be a good person that someone would want to be around first
Which is why I made the post

>>17582234
Not to mention that you could get multiple boards to get a hashtag trending on Twitter, such as #CancelTinder or something like that. Maybe it would spark a grassroots movement.

>>17582234
>the left wouldn't miss a chance to stick it to a private company
Do you think the left still cares about the working class as well lol

>>17582233
>All short guys need to do to end the misery
Tried it twice already but could not commit. Suicide is extremely hard to pull off, even if you have depression.

>>17582250
>I need to figure out how to be a good person that someone would want to be around first
Have you tried going outside?

>>17582250
You learn by having interactions. If you can't initiate them for psychological reasons join a club. Make it sports so you get the physical benefits as well. A few years down the road you won't even understand what your problem was in the first place.

This isn't a /lit/ thread this is thinly veiled /r9k/ dating advice muh redpill cancer. Fuck off.

>>17582291
It is going to get deleted soon enough.

>>17582268
Yes, I use every excuse I can to go outside and I go for walks every day.
It hasn't being working out at all, so I think I need to adjust my strategy

>>17582269
I can try when Corona is over, but I really don't like exercising in front of other people. Not because I'm horribly overweight or anything, it's just very uncomfortable, like eating in public

>>17581556
It’s average. In the age of Bumble, that means you don’t make the cut.

Lots of PUA LARP cope ITT.
If you want a girl who looks good, look good yourself.

Huh, I’m 6’0, what kind of personality is being 6ft tall anyways ?

>>17582312
There are all sorts of clubs. You can join one where people simply jog together. +Yeah, covid sucks.

>>17582335
Frater, did this one really need the trip

>>17582335
>what kind of personality is being 6ft tall anyways ?
being a namefag on an anonymous image board, for one

>>17582342
Where do you find clubs? Facebook?

>>17582335
that's crazy i am 6'0 too dude!

>>17582312
wow... like around your neighbourhood?

embrace failure, the master has failed more times than the student has even tried

>>17582359
>wow... like around your neighborhood?
You mean walking? There are some woods nearby with trails
And yes I walk around my neighborhood, where else am I supposed to go lol? I don't understand is that not what go outside means

>>17582291
>This isn't a /lit/ thread
>140 replies
I guess your shitty literature is not as interesting as /r9k/ topics.

>>17582233
Oh boy, I would love to date a dom. But dominant women aren't that common, man. Where do you find them?

>>17582395
>Where do you find them?
Usually in hentai.

>>17582343
Didn’t think to take it off, sorry

>>17582353
Your university should have posters hanging and other than that google your city. Things to consider are: do I meet girls there/what kind of interactions does it involve, does it over time increase my general value and to a lesser extent; am I actually interested in it.
You usually have to pay for it but something like dancing is great because you get intimate interactions, lots of girls and you develop all sorts of physical abilities.

>>17581752
>eggman being propositioned by no less than 28 horny Indian men
I laughed

>>17581776
>Kant was 5’2
Most likely died a virgin.
>Nietzsche 5’8
Rejected by Lou Salomé.
>Napoleon 5’7
Eternalized the phrase "Napoleon complex."
>Sartre 5’0
Seethed with envy over Chadmus' pulls and over Chadmus' eyes that weren't looking at each other.
>Goethe 5’5
I won't say Christiane Vulpius was a hambeast, because of the 'prettily plump' era, but uh, that would've been an escort for me, bruh.

>>17582385
It's always like that. The non-lurking literature community is always the same 50 people.

>>17582234
The corporations that own Tinder and other apps like it will never allow valid criticism to gain traction in the public sphere. The rise of this "incel" shit is only the beginning. By the end of this decade, if you aren't actively using a dating app, you're going to be shunned by normals.

>>17581586
>As long as I did not outwardly show that I had sexual or romantic desires, they liked hanging out with me, and many even told me they like the kind of person that I am.
>But as soon as I demonstrated that I have a sexuality and do want romance, they get disgusted.
These kind of people are either functionally autistic or otherwise visibly socially malformed. They're like the retarded kids that girls would eat lunch with in high school. It doesn't help that this guy is hanging out with women before expressing interest in them instead of doing so right off the bat.

>>17582267
Please don't kill yourself. Plenty of short men do well with women who aren't total air heads. Stay off dating sites and apps and find a genuine partner.

>>17582500
dude just find someone who loves you lmao

>>17582515
Yes.

>>17582532
go fuck yourself my man
you might as well tell him to just grow taller to get over his insecurities

>>17581432
No Bible? The Bible, OP.

>>17582050
Old stereotype.

>>17581954
gus mccrae

>>17581960
B A S E D
A
S
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>>17581432
Only faggots get girlfriends

Don't be a simp, don't waste your money, read Nietzsche until the unicorn comes

>>17582418
Sartre did get mad Simone de Beauvoir pussy tho

>>17582660
mad 14 year old pussy too

>>17582646
I don't want to read Nietzsche. I want someone to talk to me

>>17582500
>Please don't kill yourself
Fuck off, plenty of men from 4Chan kill themselves and that's a good thing. However, I plan on streaming mine at least for the attention and the memes that will follow.

>>17582646
This is pure life denying cope. Not very Nietzscheian of you.

Harry Potter, and nothing else. Trust me, OP.

>>17582732
Good point

>>17582718
Hol up let me get my Beyond Good and Evil annotated.

Now it's not that I am anti-woman. Having a lady partner, if that's what you want in life, is a beautiful thing. It's that toxic womanism that destroys your passion and enthusiasm. Never accept less in that realm. If nagging, playing hard to get, overspending and self-consciousness is the norm in your partner then it's inexcusable. Unfortunately in the West, this is the norm from a girl to a boy in the mid-later stages of the relationship; this type of person is what we, connotation wise, is what we think of as 'a woman'. Unfortunately it's humanity's simps that buy into this personality and perpetuate it, passing it down to the next generation of girls.

Seems like the zoomers don't want to sign the contract tho, with the memes and entertainment and all.

>>17582806
I don't understand what that means, I just want to make a friend and I don't think Nietzsche will help me

>>17582718
>>17582806 (You)
To bend over backwards for this womanism distorts the truth of the matter, and leads us astray off the course of self-fulfillment. Look for your girl with a golden heart, not 'a good woman' or your next 'girlfriend'. Plus if you're taken by some temporary person then it will be harder to take that opportunity to pursue such unicorns.

Here, Nietzsche regards philosophers claiming they've discovered the 'truth' of the matter as if they are chasing an entity that will never be satisfied nor ever reveal its true self. Perhaps what they are actually chasing does not exist at all, and they only chase their own apparitions of their dogma. One must not be desperate for discovery in philosophy and love, or you get a flawed version of what you seek.

>>17582975
I think there is something to that. In truth, if I made a friend, or even managed to have a relationship, I would probably still be unhappy.
But I need to string myself along somehow and tell myself there is a point or a state I can achieve where I will be doing better you know

>>17582876
Of course, this entails you being content on your lonesome for a bit, getting in touch with your self, which is like 80% of the matter. Only the happily single find true love imo, for you don't use this person as your personal emotional crutch; instead she is an enhancement to your time on this earth. Over 50% of marriages end in divorce, and probably 20% of the successful ones survive over one or both partners on copium.

>>17581586
The part about girls liking you until you demonstrate you're a real human bean with regular sexual instincts is so true. I'm not short but I experienced that my whole life as an ugly dude, including girls being shocked when I mention being interested in *other* women like they expected me to be a monk.

>>17581432
The Greeks.

>>17581432
It's about a having a personality that loves and respects yourself and others. That's the prerequisite for good relationships. Search for self help and pick any book. They all say different variations of what I just told you. Follow good habits for a year until your habits become your personality then throw yourself into the dating scene.

>>17583444
This

Don't fall for the psudo science scams though

True strength lie in this stuff, not dick swinging competitions

>>17583444
Nice post, but how do I learn to love myself? I hate me
Also haha at "then throw yourself into the dating scene," I can't even picture what that means

>>17583550

>>17583592
I don't see how that's true at all
Of course I can hate myself and think someone else is great, quite easily even

>this thread

>>17583550
I can only tell you my path. I wrote down the type of person I want to be and all the things that type of person would do every day. So things like waking up before sunrise, working out, eating healthy, on and on down the list.
Then on every new moon I would pick 3 - 5 things on the list to implement into my life. So first new moon I picked the three habits from above and told the universe that I was going to do each one every fucking day until the full moon.
When the full moon came, I hadn't done it every day, but I had done better than continuing to be a lazy slob, so I celebrated with the universe. Instead of hating on failing, I showed myself love for trying and bettering myself.
As the next new moon approached, I reflected on what I did right in the past month, and also what went wrong on the days I failed. By doing that I was able to find out I woke up late because I went to bed late the night before, I ate shitty food because I only got a few hours of sleep, etc.
From there I revised my goals to incorporate these new findings for the next moon cycle. Rinse, repeat. 12 Times a year to actively set intentions, better yourself, and reflect. 12 Times a year to praise your efforts no matter what and show yourself love on the full moon. By the third month you feel like a new person

>>17583631
I've tried making lists like that before, keeping tabs on my habits and stuff, but nothing ever came of it
I'll try again though, maybe I can do better this time
Thanks for sharing

>>17583729
>keeping tabs on my habits and stuff, but nothing ever came of it
Yeah I had to try a lot of things to find what worked for me, but I think the more important thing is actively setting aside time to just say "I fucking did some shit this month, and it was kind of hard and sucked at times, but I feel great for doing it."
I do it for a couple hours every full moon, and I try to feel it.
Like really feel the love for myself. It's hard at first, but I think it is the key