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17436808 No.17436808[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I don’t understand how people can say God and religion is some how disproven. There’s literally no less of a reason to believe in God(s) or whatever the Buddhists believe in then a 1000 years ago. Sure our map has gotten bigger and we have a bit of a deeper understanding of natural processes (a lot of which we had already somewhat guessed such as with atoms), but thats about it. Even theoretical physics which is mostly a bullshit religion that will look completely different 50 years from now, even if you could say you have any confidence in it it still wouldn’t explain the essential fucking questions.

What the fuck is existence? What the fuck is being? What the fuck is the universe? Like really what the fuck? There’s no less of a reason to believe this is all just the dream of a God then when the indo-aryans invaded India and brought the vedas 4000 years ago. Look at your hand right now. Shake it around? What the fuck is that? What the fuck is going on. This is fucking real. All of this is fucking real. I’m not saying you need to go become a fucking jihadi or whatever but anyone that acts like spirituality is out of question is a total fucking pseud that’s somehow never actually thought deeply about what the fuck this whole thing is, our fucking existential reality, in their entire pathetic life.

>> No.17437058

christianity is slave morality

>> No.17437067

>>17437058
We are all slaves to reality

>> No.17437093

>>17437058
It’s not. It’s the path to true oneness that frees you. You can’t just do that in your own. Look at history. Humans aren’t just benevolent just because.

>> No.17437097

>>17437058
It is the least oppressive kind of slavery, if it can even be considered slavery. Objective morals and habitation which reinforce their importance give you comfort in a world where pain is abundant and death is terrifying, furthermore, it is entirely optional and doesn't try and infect you with subliminal messaging.

>> No.17437318

>>17436808
seethe, dilate.

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17437326

>>17437067
What, like your stomach? Christianity isn’t reality.

>> No.17437346

True, but too earnest for the pseuds

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>>17436808
"It would be foolish to assert that there is no power above mine. Only the attitude that I take toward it will be quite another than that of the religious age: I shall be the enemy of — every higher power, while religion teaches us to make it our friend and be humble toward it."
AHEM, SPOOKS
FUCK GOD
FUCK MAN
FUCK THE STATE
FUCK SOCIETY

>> No.17437371

>>17436808
>There’s literally no less of a reason to believe in God(s) or whatever the Buddhists believe in then a 1000 years ago.
Yah, all the reasons were already laid out 2,000 years ago by the Sceptics. Not to positively say there is no god, only to say that no one seems to have any criterion for settling claims about his nature or existence.

>> No.17437390

>>17436808
>There’s literally no less of a reason to believe in God(s) or whatever the Buddhists believe in then a 1000 years ago
Yeah there is, it's called evolution.

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>>17437326
No matter how long I'm away, whenever I come back you're still here
Desperately posting pseudo-intellectual drivel, trying so hard to seem worldly and cultured but failing because you're a freak in their late 30s who has never done anything but post on an anime website.
You are disgustingly pathetic

>> No.17437418

>>17436808
>Look at your hand right now. Shake it around? What the fuck is that? What the fuck is going on. This is fucking real. All of this is fucking real.
Avidya.
>>17437058
based
>>17437093
>implying benevolence is a spiritual value
christianity is slave morality
>>17437097
>pain is abundant and death is terrifying
speak for yourself shudra

>> No.17437425

>>17437391
bro it's not butterfly, the trip is fucked, butterfly disappeared like a month ago or something. it's just trolls now.

>> No.17437440

>>17436808
take acid and ask those same questions to your own subconscious and listen to what it has to say

>> No.17437451

>>17436808
Its more the general encounter with people of other faiths and the loss of dogmatic hegemony of the church that has allowed for loss of belief.

If your neighbor has as good a reason to believe whatever other thing than what you believe belief is suddenly quite arbitrary.

And remember it takes effort to believe. If A and B is equally true but A takes more effort, then of course you choose B.

>> No.17437463

>>17436808
People have a hard time understanding that faith in the nonexistence of a thing is also faith.

>> No.17437540

>>17437097
not slavery as in it enslaves you, slavery as in it appeals to slaves. It teaches that to be weak and dominated is morally good, and to be powerful and dominant is morally bad.

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>>17437326
lol butters we've all see you play thing game 100 times, youre a sad vapid shallow desperate leech who will sell your dignity for a shred of attention and validation from strangers on the internet in order to make up for the fact that you are a complete loser IRL, no one is going to take you seriously just because you try so hard to project and air of smug superiority, youve tried to play that trick one too many times and its now old and transparent, youre going to have to get new material

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>>17437318

>> No.17438033

>>17437390
>it's called evolution.
Excellent bait. There’s no contradiction

>> No.17438220

>>17437425
He only wants the attention. Just report his vile ass and leave him alone

>> No.17438233

>>17438220
whats wrong with being obsessed with getting attention? its literally the only reason you are posting with that tripcode right now

>> No.17438911

>>17437440
I’ll pass on that offer
>>17437463
This

>> No.17438926

>>17437425
>butterfly disappeared
Did the bitch finally kill her self? Honestly I was wondering when it would happen with us Telling her to do it and tormenting her everytime she posted, not like she wasn’t asking for it.

>> No.17438960

>>17438926
I thought she ran for office and is now on the Nevada city council??

>> No.17439007

>>17438960
>Nevada city
There’s a Nevada City in California between Sacramento and Carson City. Looks quaint

>> No.17440036

>>17436808
>I’m not saying you need to go become a fucking jihadi or whatever
Authenticity is really the focal question. Otherwise what are we even arguing? It's like arguing Star Wars

>> No.17440260

>>17436808
Don't say fuck so much, redditor. But yes, God is real.

>> No.17440709

>>17437390
God's creation is a mechanism, an on-going, ever changing stream of information. Evolution falls perfectly in line with this reality.

>> No.17440993

I agree really. The upsurge in atheism is temporary, but organised religions will change. People will most likely settle into a spiritual agnosticism in a few hundred years where reason and emotion are less divorced and practical wisdom makes a comeback

>> No.17441047

>>17440993
Sounds gay

>> No.17441055

>>17441047
it might be

>> No.17441070

I think the soul crushing nature of the system we live in makes it hard for people to truly feel. To feel is scary, so it's better to shut out the world and God completely than feel bad.

>> No.17441118

>>17437440
I'm all for temporary escapism, but this push for superficial, skin deep enlightenment via psychedelics is growing old. Shill elsewhere.

>> No.17441127

>>17436808
>There’s literally no less of a reason to believe in God(s) or whatever the Buddhists believe in then a 1000 years ago.
Stories of miracles and other supernatural phenomena are not taken seriously anymore due to a lack of evidence.
>Sure our map has gotten bigger
That's a big part of it. A 1000 years ago geocentrism was the prevailing model of the universe born partly out of the belief that we are the most important thing around which everything revolves. The discovery that we are a very small part of a incomprehensibly large cosmos casts doubt on our ideas of self-importance, that this was all for the sake of human life.

>> No.17441147

>>17441127
>Stories of miracles and other supernatural phenomena
Your mistaking the finger for the moon

>The discovery that we are a very small part of a incomprehensibly large cosmos casts doubt on our ideas of self-importance, that this was all for the sake of human life.
I agree. That however doesn't discount the existence of some omnipotent, first mover type, "other". Humans simply exist on the same level as all other phenomena. Just as important. Not more. Not less.