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Give me books on how to incur worldly ruin, how to anti-succeed. Preferably without doing something immoral. I want to obliterate the upper middle class inside of me and dive to the depths of worldly torment. And do it smiling!

>> No.17298136

>>17298123
>>17298123
No Longer Human is like a guide to living an unfulfilled life.

>> No.17298145
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17298145

The left handed dark buddhist vamachara is the path you seek

>> No.17298148

>>17298123
The Holy Bible (New Testament) would be an unironic example (sell what you have). Seriously I want to crash and burn in society. I need to taint my reputation without actually killing or raping someone. Get falsely accused etc...

>> No.17298163

>>17298145
K what book in particular? I had no idea what Buddhism was until like a couple hours ago today when I looked up the wiki page. Extremely ignorant of anything Eastern. I’m willing to make that change

>> No.17298184

>>17298163
left handed path involves having a lot of sex. Can you do this? If you have no pussy available I'm afraid you'll have to take the virgin right hand

>> No.17298188

Literally just sit around doing nothing until your life falls apart

>> No.17298225

>>17298163
Disregard what that anon posted, the left-hand path is the exact opposite of "destroying yourself morally". It uses immortality in order to achieve enlightenment.

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>>17298184
>success needs lots of sex
>anti-success needs lots of sex
WTF I HATE SEX I HATE SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
So I can’t succeed, neither can I not succeed. Therefore I’m stuck in the lukewarm. I’m stuck being 100% mediocre. Sitting around doing nothing will not make me nightsoilpondscum nor will it make me an Asian tryhard PHD
>>17298188
That’s NOT ENOUGH SEE ^^^^^^^

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>>17298123
>how to anti-succeed
This one

>> No.17298271

>>17298225
Morally destroying yourself and the societal image of yourself—that’s what I’m looking for.
Not “woe is me :(((“
but “WOE IS ME :D”

>> No.17298323

>>17298271
You don't need a book for that, it's pretty easy. If you're really that intent on reading a book about it, get Dostoyevsky's Demons and just do what Stavrogin does.
Also, you sound like a faggot. Sorry, OP.

>> No.17298350

>>17298323
I’ll hit up some Dostoyevsky then. Been meaning to. And yes, how I sound very much reflects what I am.

>> No.17298373

>>17298350
unfortunate

>> No.17298390

>>17298123
Just become a Marxist faggot like most of you suburban filth like to do anyway.
You will fail, logically, philosophically, and ethically but I'm sure you'll be able to do it while smiling.
Stealing is immoral though so I can't really help you with that...

>> No.17298394

>>17298123
Based. Being happy and successful is for faggot normies.

>> No.17298438

>>17298390
I will fail to fail? By being born in a suburb so you mean that I am chained to the middle-class fantasy of meritocratic climbing up the societal ladder? So there is no way out

>> No.17298454

>>17298184
>>17298225
Not OP, any good books on it?

>> No.17298482

>>17298123
Suttree

>> No.17298503

just do heroin lmao

>> No.17298531

>>17298503
You’re not wrong—that’s exactly what people where I live do

>> No.17298532

>>17298240
Read Kierk

>> No.17298551

>>17298454
The ones I have read will not be useful to you. I doubt the sex anon will be any better, either.

>> No.17298684

>>17298532
Where to start with him?

>> No.17298742

>>17298163
>ignorant of anything Eastern
Dare I say based?

>> No.17299032

A person who is able to write a book cant have that bad of a life

>> No.17299108

>>17298123
The Immoralist - Andre Gide

>> No.17299324

The Diceman

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>>17298123
a sad suburban tale of failure, self-degradation, and the obliteration of consciousness, relieved only by the narrator's sardonic sense of humor.

Raised by his artist father, Peter Jernigan rejected bohemia for the promise of middle-class bliss in New Jersey. He commutes from his ``split-level shitbox'' to his Manhattan job in real estate until, a year or so before his 40th birthday, things fall apart with a vengeance. It begins when his wife dies in a drunken suicidal accident during a July 4th barbecue. Jernigan's teen-aged son, Danny, retreats farther into heavy-metal euphoria, and Jernigan's drinking increases exponentially. On the first anniversary of his wife's death, he meets the mother of Danny's girlfriend, the latter a 14-year-old recovering heroin addict who now does only pot and acid. When Jernigan is fired from his job, he and Danny move in with their women, and Jernigan spends his days getting sloshed. His endless boozing is interrupted by a series of nightmarish incidents (Danny's girlfriend has a bad trip; a friend of Danny's shoots himself to death on the living-room sofa), and, at the same time, Jernigan's uncontrollable sense of irony turns into bitter sarcasmhe's a mean drunk, forever mocking the cultural illiteracy of those around him. Just when it seems he can go no lower, he splits for a trailer in New Hampshire, seeking total retreat and oblivion, but ends up in a treatment center, writing these frank confessions.

>> No.17299371

>>17298148
Just do it you coward

>> No.17299933

Fake having cancer and then when you're found out take up smoking.

>> No.17299971

>>17298123
Fight Club
Invisible Monsters

>> No.17300042

>>17298123
>Preferably without doing something immoral.
cuck

>> No.17300047

>>17298123
Oblomov

>> No.17300054

>>17298123
> how to anti-succeed

You're already on 4chan, what more could you possibly want?

>> No.17300074

>>17298123
Cringe

>> No.17300121
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>>17298123
A Rebours by Huysmans
the title in English is sometimes given as 'Against Nature'
that is probably the book you are looking for, anon.
you're welcome.

>> No.17300273

>>17298531
it fits OPs description in a way. you probably shouldn't though

>> No.17300290

>>17298123

Maybe lit will disagree but most of Nietzsche. I feel like I’ve seen many young guys completely ruined by him, using him to enforce their own egotism and bad habits. It seems to me these guys have used him as a shield to cover how fraudulent they really are, which I guess must be built on a misreading of him in the first place, but I’m not sure. They just end up total hacks who don’t do what they say, or really follow him at all , which I guess ends with them being life-deniers. Maybe this is where the pseud readers of him come from, where people use him to just feel better than everyone else, literally using him as an extension of slave morality to justify their own obscurity or unhappiness when they don’t really do anything themselves to fix their own problems. Nietzsche really can be quite arrogant and maybe he is taken too seriously by the young sometimes.

>> No.17300474

>>17300290
Excellent post, many young people abuse his work to justify their shitty behavior, both in introverted and extroverted manners. The most stupid way I have seen this manifest is when slave morality is projected unto anything they dislike anyway, while acting with a sense of entitlement (master) about their own ideas, which only feeds their narcissism and ignorance further. They don't seem to understand these concepts or Nietzsche at all. They dive head on into his books, having read only a few other non-related books, after finishing it they just stop, thinking they have it all figured it out now, and then walk the earth with a sense of superiority, more ignorant than before.