/lit/ - Literature

Because he's conned everyone into thinking he would finish a series he had no intention of ever finishing.
He got fat off hbo bucks and now just sits in his house consooooming

>>17223660
That's pretty much all there is to say. Also he takes political stances even when he has no need to

>>17223628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGQDLOZWXg
and also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._R._Martin#Early_life

>>17223628
He's a fiend. And knowing that there's someone out there at every minute of every day, reading his deviant sexual fantasies and that he's paid for it makes him do big cooms.

>>17223628
>dont worry guys, the pizza is coming!

>>17223865
What a bunch of fucking nonsense.

>>17223865
But aren't Shakespeare, Aeschylus and Euripides just as grim and hopeless in their tragedies? All the "subversive" events in Martin's books are taken straight from real history and mythology and even then he is often less gruesome than the real deal (Trojan war, War of the Roses, Black dinner, Caesar's death, Iphigenia,...). You could make a case for the showrunners but idk if Martin himself isn't just some autist who wanted to write a mix between fantasy and historical fiction.

>>17223628
>dragons are mammals and can metabolise milk
Bravo George.

>>17223934
>But aren't Shakespeare, Aeschylus and Euripides just as grim and hopeless in their tragedies?
I wouldnt know but thats beside the point. I doubt those authors rejected the idea of good and evil and considered it a success if they managed to pass that on to their readers. El goblino here clearly does

>>17223968
>I doubt those authors rejected the idea of good and evil and considered it a success if they managed to pass that on to their readers. El goblino here clearly does
>NOOOOOOOO I NEED CLEARLY DEFINED GOOD AND EVIL IN MY STORIES
>FUCK THAT NUANCED BULLSHIT

>>17223628
He's a lightning rod for criticism because he embodies almost everything wrong with contemporary fantasy.

>>17223996

>everybody is evil lol
>nuance

Bravo

>>17224019
Everybody isn't evil in game of thrones

>>17223968
I mean the entire point of Greek tragedy is that good people end up doing bad shit because of fate and ignorance. And what does this guy even mean? Isn't he a Nietzschean? Why does he care about morality?

>>17223996
>NOOOOOOOO I NEED CLEARLY DEFINED GOOD AND EVIL IN MY STORIES
Yes, this. It doesn't have to be embodied by people, for all I care they can all be flawed, as it is irl too. Characters struggling to be good and often doing evil in the process is interesting and not subversive but good and evil as underlying truths should not be mocked.

>>17224021

How you do know that since evil isn't defined?

>>17224047
I agree with that. For me something like the Prince of Thorns books fall into the category of mocking the idea of good and evil.

>>17224048
I judged certain characters as not evil and others as evil.

>>17223865
lmao that midwit is the prime subverter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KqkyNnm7Bc
Here he goes on for 16 min about a "postmodern globalist" Aristotle translation that literally says what the Greek text does word for word.
>...καὶ τοῖς ὁμοεθνέσι πρὸς ἄλληλα, καὶ μάλιστα τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, ὅθεν τοὺς φιλανθρώπους ἐπαινοῦμεν.
>Members of the same race, and human beings most of all, (have a natural friendship) for eachother, that is why we praise friends of humanity.

>>17224053

racist

>>17224091
I wasnt promoting his channel or his other views but its clear he gets to the bottom of Martins character and thats what's relevant for this thread:
>Why does Giorgio R.R Martino make you seethe so much?

>>17223968
>I doubt those authors rejected the idea of good and evil

yes they did

>>17224144
No they didnt but if they did they would be subversive too

>>17223950
Yes

>>17224157
Euripides was pretty subversive, but I doubt he's a jewish globalist

>>17223628
I like the books.

He is, personally, very un likeable.