/lit/ - Literature

>>17200349

>>17200412
>17200412
I've seen this shilled on /lit/ recently, what are the main points?

>>17200438
"In his debut book, Nebraskan author Scott Howard exposes the actors financing the institutionalization of transgenderism. Behind the medical research into gender transitioning of children, ubiquitous pride parades, and Drag Queen Story Hours is a lot of money. Sex education, the homosexual and feminist precursor projects, and the global propaganda are all pushed and paid for by very wealthy and well-connected people with motive and will. Howard demonstrates that the transgender phenomenon is far from the “grass-roots movement” some of its advocates would have the public believe.

Impeccably sourced and researched, The Transgender-Industrial Complex pulls the mask off the complex network of influential groups responsible for this inhuman project. Howard takes a deep dive into the murky depths of the Big Money behind Big Gay, exposing how the concept gained such recognition as well as the goals of the people behind it. At once wide-ranging and specific, advanced and accessible, The Transgender-Industrial Complex is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand why every institution with power, and a great many without, are uniform in their inversion of reality, their religion of lies, and their commitment to all that is ugly, broken, and foul."

>>17200438
Big Gay and Big Trans are projects of Big Jew

>>17200572
>pushed and paid for by very wealthy and well-connected people with motive and will
so what are the main points of the book? What is the motive?

>>17200572
>Big Money behind Big Gay
imagine being an adult and writing like this

>>17200349
Transgenderism was always going to happen given technology and the freedom of choice it provides. There have been sci-fi books that are pretty old (40s/50s) in which gender was something people chose.

>>17200588
I dunno, I just pulled the description off of LibGen. I'll tell you when I read it.

>>17200592
Yeah, I internally chucked at that.

>>17200349
The Transsexual Empire: The Making of the She-Male

>>17200349
>brutal
Brutal how?
>>17200630
Give us a run down.
>>17200412
Seems like it would be cheaper to read Sex and Character if I wanted reasons it was all Jews.

>>17200630
>>17200993
Appears to be a feminist book in support of transgenderism

>>17201311
Radical feminist book against transgenderism (aka terf)

"The Man Who Would be Queen"
"The Transsexual Empire"
Both written in the late 70s/early 80s and totally spot-on and still relevant in their critique desu.

I just watched When Harry met Sally as an adult (saw it when I was very young like 20 years ago) and it resonated a bit with me. Like, the movie was trying to be subversive in its dialectical discussion of male/female relations, and it obviously had an effect on the cultural zeitgeist, but now it seems so outdated and crude. I've now been exposed to more feminist theory on tictoc than I have when I went to grad school and it's not very comfortable. They play the victim, yet expect attention still, they empower their sexuality but deny men the satisfaction of engaging with it, as if they are an object to observe, and yet they then criticize the male gaze, as if the last bastion of "at least I can look" is itself a bad thing. These overarching structures of sociological impotence are obvious, and I agree with many of the ideas of men/women relations they talk about, and yet they expect a radical shift in a mans perception of reality, this uncomfortable desexualizing of every facet of culture when we are biologically programmed and culturally inundated to do so. As if hierarchies of relative attractiveness aren't the reason these people are getting a platform in the first place to eschew the information. I feel as if I should pull a "run away to the woods" deal and escape society but then that would be criticized too. There's no winning. I can't even decide to be gay because they coopted that culture too.

>>17200572
Sounds very anti-Semitic

>>17202698
This. I think we should refrain from reading such a book

>>17200349
Guenon

>>17200349

>>17200608
>given technology and the freedom of choice it provides
not at all. granted a lot of trannies are failed men. but it purely a matter of ideology and culture, it was not inevitable in the slightest. what is more inevitable is blurring between genders such that they're not meaningful outside of biological realities. transgenderism (and often feminism) can be rather reactionary and regressive in this regard, particularly when they need to invent or emphasise or polarise gendering of behaviour and material things (e.g. clothing) because without meaningful gender outside of those biological realities which technology is no where near sufficient to address, there is not much meaning in it or rather the difference between the two isn't so strong enough to warrant changing (the idea that they need to be a girl or a boy to feel 'right', so there needs to be a bigger gap for that).

>>17202761
Careful that guy is a cryptobuddhist

>>17204362
>particularly when they need to invent or emphasise or polarise gendering of behaviour and material things (e.g. clothing)
how do you think they do this?

>>17204362
also in the feminist case it is a strong identification with a faction, a faction requires social makeup to be distinct and to identify with it as an ingroup, eroding this and leaving only biology which isn't enough to make a group (social), is a problem for people who identify with womanhood and/or feminism. and a problem for the ideology to substantiates itself and not fall apart (as the ideology is its own creature trying to claw itself alive).

>>17204395
it is implicit in their ideology but a pretty funny example is ftm (or the like) wearing 'male' clothing which is just what they can wear as a woman already, as there are no exclusively male clothing stylistically. they just wear clothing that is badly fitted to their (female) bodies. it has zero social implication/difference and people around them won't even notice.

>>17204412
good point, from a biological standpoint every ideology gets weakened, theirs especially

>>17200349
https://archive.org/stream/Synanon00/SynanonTransgender_djvu.txt

This article argues that the lgbt movement is engaging in a form of social engineering uncanily resembling totalitarisms of the 20th century and that transgender activists display cult like behaviour. the author xerself is trans. so we can either conclude A) maybe there is a point to be made under an atomized industrial society that is by nature totalitarian, even supposedly enmancipatory movements are bound to take disturbing totalitarian characteristics, B)these people are whackjobs(unlike me totaly sane non perverted degenerate and or mentally ill).

>>17200349
Read this too. It’s essential for understanding just how fucking evil the trans community is (mainly the activist)

>>17204476
>Synanon
Is it about synanon the rehab/cult/school system with the game? It's fucking impossible to find any shit on them since nobody wants to get rattlesnaked. If yes, based anon. If it's just about trannies and the name is incidental, then I guess you're an alright anon but you got my hopes up.

>>17200572
Will be picking this up. Any information about this idiocy is more power i have to shield me kids from transgenderism.

>>17200608
training".I mean have you tried bringing up nietzsche or any western philosopher for that matter around your local lgbtqia leftist cattle? In no time you will see their little stupid cowlike eyes light up in panic. Soon enough they will start with the usual subhuman bleating "wasnt he sexist? Arent you being dangerously eurocentric? Why read books by dead white men when you could have been streaming the latest diverse and inclusive workplace comedies at netflix hulu and disneygo? What are you a russian bot? Didnt you know reading is ableist towards people who are too retarded to read? Have you been taking your SSRIs and HRT? it is very important that you take the medication dr goldstein prescribed otherwise we will have to report you to corporate for mandatory sensitivity training".*nervously presses red button labelled thought crime alert*

>>17202122
Hmmm it smells like shit but if it’s anti trans I’ll read it

>>17204423
it is also behavioural to a certain extent, obviously we are not blank slates tho. acting a certain way to distinguish yourself from one group and align your behaviour with another (which is only acting that way to form the group, not that it is biologically or historically given, hence the inconsistencies and arbitrariness).

what i'm trying to say is that the trend is definitely to blur gender and in response people who already identify in ideologies dependent on gender must enforce or invent gendering to maintain their ideology and identity, despite it often being artificial and shallow. from a past perspective, gender would be based in roles/domains, so arguably today it's already completely blurred. tumultuous (not settled into a coherent framework) social differences from raw biological reality (rather grim) mixed with shallow artificial ones and the inertia of history define gender.

>>17204476
>xerself
You will NEVER be a woman

>>17204398
Its some sort of baudrillardiam paradoxical phase were gender can only be justified by transgenderism. Homophobia or transphobia practically classifies as a variety of anticlericalism. Im a conservative because at least trump and the catholic church want to keep the child rape at respectable levels while the left wants to brainwash us into thinking its good and normal.

>>17204386
Guenon was muslim

>>17202140
Read the goodreads comments on the transexual empire. Troons seething.

Transgenderism never made much sense to me from a mental perspective. I sort of liken it akin to Nagel's What is it Like to be a Bat? but switch Bat with opposite-gender. There is a biological experience that differs between them that can't be elucidated by merely a changing of clothing or other superficial alteration.

>>17202746
Yes, anything that suggests that Jews aren’t perfect is something that we mustn’t taint our minds with because as we all know, Jews can do no wrong.. Good plan anon.

>>17204682
The famous turing test. This honestly describes a great amount of you faggots. This is exactly the sort of thing kaczinsky was trying to warn us about. Computer = homo machine. I dont understand , why imitate women out of all things? The rest of us who presumably have some decency left instead look up to more respectable masculine role models like travis bickle, sam hyde, the underground man and michel houellebecq.

>>17204533
also, there will never not be gender, it will just be in a very undeveloped, destructive form (for a time). perhaps the lack of clear gender in a robust framework related to all areas of life allows people to more easily drift into one or the other, that the importance of one's gender is shallow or of a different kind than the concept suggests. because it depends mostly on identification with a group than any wide-reaching social importance that defines what you are. it would be tough to do that if it informed your skills and experiences on a total level, so it isn't so much about becoming something as it is about identification and self-perception because that is the logic of gender in our day. unironically all of this, these social conditions, probably hits tomboys the most because i think women crave the group recognition and agreement more so when they realise they're divergent tumorous insecurity grows about their femininity.

oh and i was gonna say trannies still want the body of the other but then i notice they 'validate' their tranny imitations of the opposite sex and kind of place their own group above, i think this shows what i mean in that their group (and its legitimacy) is more important. it almost ousts them as not really wanting to be a man or woman but it's probably just a result of never really fitting so coping by elevating their form as a valid man or woman with some denigrative envy of the real thing.

>>17204682
Trannies are not like women at all but rather like an autistic males idea of what a woman should be, their notion of 'gender' obviously derived from anime and pornography.

>>17204778
Not to mention the fad like popularity of trannies mixed with the social power they have to smite people with a plethora of rhetorical ammunition (terf) naturally inspires these slime balls to slither into the social limelight. Furthermore the bonus of being a social charity case further allows them to revel in their mud pit of victimhood.

>>17204827
The entire movement is based on gender stereotypes. The fact that so many are on board with this is very impressive and pathetic.

>>17204769
Would you please explain what you’re saying further? I don’t understand what your pic related is saying.

>>17204839
Trannies are incel class traitors.

>>17200993
Have you read Sex and Character? It’s peak tranny /lit/. Genderfluidity theory is the first part dude!

>>17204856
Some tranny checked out the copy at my library and wrote shit like FUCKING BASTARD under things that said women are dumb

>>17204839
>>17204827
Eh I think there are feminine (behaviourally) men who become trannies, feminine before that, so it fits but they're not the ones up on discord or twitter pushing an ideology though.

>>17204852
lol

>>17204868
is this satire, i can't tell.

>>17204833
yes there's plenty that are just awful people attracted to the benefits. indeed, it's not a bad thing to consider if you're otherwise straight/male/white in certain careers because you have bottom-tier social power otherwise and may be limited to some extent, not even on the hierarchy of victimhood.

Wow.
That just might be the most obscenely BASED title for a book I have ever seen. It’s simultaneously clever and inflammatory. Which is good because being inflammatory is the only way to defeat the tranny menace

Reminder "gender" is not science, reminder the dichotomy between "sex" and "gender" came about through a linguistic conception in the English language rather than, again, science.

>>17205325
There were synonyms until recently. Gender likely only used because sex is vulgar.

But clearly some people use them to talk about social and biological halves, the problem is some don't understand them as halves that cannot be disentangled and some continue to them as synonyms because that's how they learnt the words. It's fine to have these definitions but because they do differ it ends in people talking past eachother. It is much easier to clarify this confusion by saying social sex, biological sex or social gender, biological gender. But even then what exactly these mean to someone varies as I mentioned some have an interest in completely separating the social and biological, along with downplaying the biological, without examining that this is what they're reasoning from.

>>17202698
>>17202746
God, I hope this is bait.