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>>17030155
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>>17030155
Objective morality is impossible without some sort of god. "Good" is a completely relative term for an atheist.

Cringe. Religion is what established our conventions of morality long ago. If enough time passes without a religious societal foundation, it will be impossible to be a good person.

>>17030174
Not what religion is
>>17030173
Read Euthyphro
>>17030155
Not what religion is

Buy like 50 books in comparative theology from SUNY and return

We don't need to control good people.
There rekt

>>17030155
Then, why be a good person? Also, define what good is.

Pro tip: Abiding by a social contract and conventions does not inherently make you a good person.

>>17030173
wrooong
the actual basement of morality are humans emotions
if feels good, it's good; if feels bad, it's bad
simple as

>>17030260
Glad to hear that capturing your family and forcing you to have intercourse with your mother until both of your respective sexes are cracked, dry, and bleeding is objectively good

>>17030155
I do not worship Allah for fear of Hellfire or for hope of of Paradise, but out of love to him, the almighty.

>>17030155
We know that. No one is a good person. That's why the threat of eternal torture is necessary. Humans know that about ourselves.

>>17030173
>Objective morality is impossible without some sort of god

That's bullshit though. There are plenty of universal constants without need to reference any entity external to the universe.

>>17030173
Indeed, unless tradition (as in the morality and values of the ancestors) is highly considered and has at the same time some actual foundation.

>>17030274
if that would make you feel good, you have some serious mental issue
hurting other people doesn't feel good, that's a myth

>>17030292
Why does the Quran contain so many threats about hell? I only ask because it's not effective to me as a non believer, and if I was a believer it would actually harm my faith.
Allah and Islam make much more sense to me than Christianity, until I open the quran

>>17030351
>mental issue
Without appealing to social compliance, explain why an unusual mental layout would be "bad" or "an issue."

>>17030301
Such as?

>>17030155
I'm not a good person

>>17030155
based
>>17030165
FPBP

the Son of Perdition is the evil element in us that will be destroyed. destruction is a symbol for purification in the higher sense and in the lower sense it is being evil. eternal torment in Christianity is because idiots rejected Geniuses like Origen, and they don't even understand the plain words and nature of God. they're tempted by an evil perception and they embrace it as if it is the Lord. hell last as long as people will it to. a god that is unhuman is not worth worshipping because it would make him a devil and alien to the better parts of Human Nature

>>17030155
What have leftists done except replace christ on the cross with a pink haired mixed race faggot on a wheelchair? Same shit except the queer wont grant me eternal life or even forgive me for the sins of my bigoted white ancestors. Im just saying it would be pretty funny if we could get together two planks of wood and a bucketful of nails and actually crucify that fucker for real. What are they going to do? Send me to hell?

>>17030155
Good literature thread