/lit/ - Literature

>>16898399
>anti-fragile rip off
What are you talking about?

>>16898399
>>16898404
OP thinks meme Arab invented the concept of heuristics/biases

>>16898404
think he means its a typical pseud, airport terminal magazine stand tier book

>>16898664
>>16898899
well then, OP is as dumb as he seems.

>>16898399
The entire theory this book proposes is fucking retarded. It presupposes that if we don't act on the basis of formal logic, then we are acting illogical. For example, if I'm walking in the forest at night and a bush rustles near by, by Kahneman's theory it is irrational for me to be scared and worry that there is something dangerous because the likelihood of there being a predator is so low. This, of course, is fucking stupid. If I am worried and there isn't a predator, nothing bad happens. If I am not worried and there is a predator, bad things will happen. Kahneman then admits to spending the next 20 years coming up with all these little games that trick our entirely reasonable, natural responses and claiming that we are therefore "irrational."

>>16898939
It's just a pseud who learned basic logic and autisticly uses it as a standard to judge people.

>>16898399
shit book

PRAISE FOR THINKING FAST AND SLOW

“This is a landmark book in social thought, in the same league as The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith and The Interpretation of Dreams by Sigmund Freud.”
―Nassim Taleb, author of The Black Swan and Antifragile

>Nobel dum

What the fuck am I reading?

>>16898939
Why bother critiquing a book you haven’t read

>>16898899
lol...

This book is amazing.

>>16898939
I don't think you understood the book...

>>16899707
KEK has an OP ever been BTFO this bad before?

>>16898399
>evolutionary psych
>evolution is real
lel yikes

>>16899707
Taleb literally calling OP stupid

>>16898899
>nobel prize winner
>pseud

yeah that does sound like something OP would think.

>>16898939
Dumb analogy, that's not what he's saying at all.
The book has actual experiments proving its points and was written by an actual Scientist who has studied the subject his entire life but sure your minute-long contemplation with no real data can refuute it.

>>16899707
Based, OP btfo

>>16898945
What about the book offended you? he's not judging, he's just telling you how your brain works in an objective manner.

>>16899707
>The Interpretation of Dreams by Sigmund Freud
you fucking what Arab

>>16898939
If you read the book I feel bad for you brainlet.

>>16898939
I also remember the part of the book where he said, "heuristics are embedded in our minds for no discernible evolutionary advantage, and they almost never work. I am not interested in seeing how faculties that usually work can nonetheless experience systematic errors. I just think ppl r dumb."

>>16898939
If you actually read the book before typing this I feel terrible.

>>16900045
>>16900398
>What is sarcasm

>>16900045
Didn't he write a whole book about whites being good allies to non whites or something about who they're all racist though? Sounds like a retard.

>>16898399
I got this book for free. should I read it.

>>16901399
Yes

>>16899707
>a landmark book in social thought
>in the same league as The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith and The Interpretation of Dreams by Sigmund Freud
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16901399
no

>>16898664
Arab man invented things that gain from disorder

>>16900373
>OH MY GOD LOOK AT THE HECKING EXPERIMENTINOS DONT YOU KNOW HES A FECKIN HECKIN CERTIFIED SCIENTISTERINO?!!? HOW DARE YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR INSTINCTS AND OPINION IS WORTH ANYTHING HE SPENT HIS ENTIRE LIFERINO STUDYING THIS HHECKING SUBJECTERINO YOU CANT REFUTE IT IDIOT, LISTEN TO EVERYTHING HE SAYS! EAT THE FUCKING BUGS! WEAR THE FUCKING MASK! DONT BE AFRAID OF BLACK PEOPLE IN BUSHES YOU HECKIN IRRATIONAL CREATURINO HEH THAT SHOWED HIM!

>>16901534
This but unironically.

>>16901534
lmao seethe

>>16901399
maybe

>>16901534
We have science precisely because human instincts aren't entirely reliable and are very limited in scope, you mongoloid.

>>16901534
Try figuring out the planet is round with just your human instincts. Try creating cars and planes you twit.

>>16898399
Did no one else in this thread read this book? It's about two systems of thinking, fast and slow, and the contexts where they arise and why this is important. I read it over a decade ago but I still remember several of the studies cited due to how shocking the results were. I would recommend this book to any young adult who hasn't yet learned how potent the scientific materialist worldview has become. One must first see the enemy before it can be overcome.

>>16901822
>Thinks Science is the enemy
What went wrong anon?

>>16901848
>Treats science as a singular object to which we can ally or be enemies with
What went wrong indeed

>>16901863
Science is a singular concept anon, not a plurality of objects. You yourself defined it as the enemy.

>>16901868
Science is a process for finding truth about the world. Distinct from this is the scientific materialist worldview which sees matter as fundamental reality, science as the only way to gain understanding of this reality, and scientific experts as the primary arbiters of this understanding. The latter is the death knell of civilization and hence my opposition. The former is a tool, and like all tools should be used only when appropriate.

>>16898399
some of the core studies in the book have been debunked so thoroughly the author wrote an addendum explaining what portions can be disregarded.

>>16901885
>science as the only way to gain understanding of this reality
This is true on every level. Science is the only tool we have to really understand any level of reality. What kind of moron would deny this?
>and like all tools should be used only when appropriate.
But see, Science is appropriate in all circumstances as it is the only thing that can reliably give us useful information on anything.
I this results in the death of any civilization, then that civilization was likely flawed in the first place and you need to try again.

>>16901534
kek based

>>16901653

>>16901909
>Science is the only tool we have to really understand any level of reality
To believe this is to place a process enacted by the mind as superior to that mind that enacts it.
Before you can trust in science you must first trust those elements of your mind that lead you to believe the process of science. There is no way to get outside yourself. At some point there must an axiomatic reliance on some element of your subjective being.
To ignore this fact is to posit and extremist and honestly absurd metaphysic. No matter how impressive the sandcastle you build you cannot deny the existence of sand.

>>16901903
I'll just use this post as a hureistic and disregard the whole book

>>16900503
>being able to make quick decisions has no evolutionary advantage

>>16901534
Getting a little triggered there, MAGAtard

>>16901534
based

>>16902133
well said

lindyman said this book has been falsified so i have to assume it's "bullshit". didn't read it btw

>>16900373
>was written by an actual Scientist
I think you will find that it was actually written by a psychologist

>>16901534
Trump lost

>>16902742
>>16901903
>>16898399
https://retractionwatch.com/2017/02/20/placed-much-faith-underpowered-studies-nobel-prize-winner-admits-mistakes/

here is the link with the author admitting entire chapters are bogus

>>16898939
There are optical illusions (the white/black grid that shows phantom grey dots). These illusions persist even after we understand them.
Similarly, there are cognitive illusions. It is sometimes necessary to continually remind ourselves these are illusion since they persist. It is helpful to learn and use mental models to help us navigate them.
Of course these models have their limitations and can even give rise to new (or sub-) cognitive illusions.