/lit/ - Literature

>>16849771
Teenagers and losers will continue to consume Marx until they earn a salary and recognise that unlike the ephemeral surplus value they fret about, the income taxes and other tolls they pay to the bureaucratic state are quantifiable losses and burdens on labour that do not need to exist, and nor are they sufficiently justified by the level of services and transparent decision-making about how public funds are actually used.

National socialists will undergo a sex reassignment surgery

>>16849836
Not this. This smacks of a man who had read nothing and thought even less

>>16849836
Retard alert retard alert retard alert weewooweewooweewoo

>>16849771
It's always:
1. Teenage that enjoys books
2. Cringe tradcath/réactionnaire/natsoc/tanky etc phase
3. Doomer
4. Moderation

>>16849963
For me it was.
Teen book lover.
Cringe Hippy zen solopsist
Doomer
Libertarian Socialist(but flexible to many ideas.)

>>16849995
I think it's accurate for most people on lit.
I did:
Loving books while a teen
Hard and very active tradcath
Doomer
Center-right with socialist tendencies (I don't know when libertarian socialist means but we must be similar).

>>16849963
I'm in the doomer phase right now. Just glad I left behind the /pol/ larpy shit.

>>16850036
Well, Libertarian Socialism is far left. Its a school of Anarchist thought. I enjoy the political thought of Murray Bookchin, Rocker, Bergman and others. Its not without its problems, but it feels nice to me.

>>16850048
It's hard to unlearn. You have to realize at some point that a very large portion of their core "evidence" used to justify their belief is just wrong. Not factually consistent. A nore rational and developed worldview can be acheived through healthy skepticism and Cartesian reflection.

>>16850048
Don't worry, you will make it champ.

>>16850057
What is Cartesian reflection? What books should I read to be more open minded while also being critical when necessary?

>>16850057
I'm still "redpilled" on some things related to race (that different races with different pros and cons exist) but I left the m'uh huWhite race garbage behind a while ago. I learned a few good bits of truth but /pol/ is more bad than good. It's like 99% unthinkably awful trash and 1% gold.
>>16850077
ty fren I hope it's soon

>>16850080
When people use Cartesian they're referring to Descartes. He has an idea that simplified goes as such. Your ideas and beliefs are like a barrel of apples and periodically through reflection you should pick out your ideas and discard the ones that don't hold up to serious scrutiny as one rotten apple will cause the rest to spoil.

I like to point people interested in descartes to discourse on the methods and meditations on first philosophy.

>>16850124
There are racial differences no doubt, but many can and should be thoroughly examined and it should be noted that environmental and cultural factors play a huge role in the emergence of these traits and stereotypes.

>>16850215
I pick those books because they're short and fairly easy to digest

>>16850224
And I just shook my head and realized that individual characteristics > vague group characteristics every single time and I only control the individuals around whom I live and work.

>>16850268
That's the true redpill and why people revolt against Sartres relatavism. It eliminates the effectiveness of making monolithic totalizing statements about vast groups.
We are forced if we're being honest to judge people based only on our interaction with them as subjective entities with factors creating their charachter that are every bit as conolex as the ones that created our own personalities.

>>16850124
I think having a short phase influenced by pol or fit (hating fat people) can help you by making you think and falsify these beliefs over time and experience. It's likely better than only having ever experienced the 'sjw' perspective and helps you stay sceptic and less dogmatic toward your own beliefs.

>>16850292
I also forced myself to acknowledge that I just don't like other people very much as a rule, though there are a select few whom I enjoy having around. I couldn't lie to myself and think that I cared more about an 80iq white person than I did an Indian doctor because "muh race".
>>16850306
>It's likely better than only having ever experienced the 'sjw' perspective and helps you stay skeptic and less dogmatic toward your own beliefs.
This is how I look at it. I feel fortunate to have delved into that world and gotten out a better and more intellectually-honest person than if I just joined some social justice interest group.

>>16850393
It's also my experience. I am glad to be out of this mindset but I am grateful to younger me for how (relatively) in shape I am now and for my ability to take things in perspective.

>>16850292
>Sartres
What should I read from him?

>>16850446
Being and Nothingness

>>16850446
For a beginner I would say read his essay Existentialism Is a Humanism and his play No-Exit.

If you're familiar with reading continental philosophy you could jump right into Being and Nothingness.

>>16850449
>>16850466
ty frens

>>16849771
I was somewhat of an ecofascist pagan but now I’ve separated my what’s-best-for-planet ideologies from my what’s-best-for-my-family ideology.

Now I’m trying to balance academic pursuits (computer science, lit, data science) with business and finance.

I realize the emptiness of capitalism and the economic machine (death of Ivan ilyich) but it can be fun running major initiatives in a large company.

>>16850268
Well there’s a difference between micro and macro views. Macro, the data says to keep most 3rd worlders out of my town.
But on a micro level, its to my disadvantage to treat people badly on an interpersonal level. My macro views shouldn’t impact day to day interactions.

I’m fluent in Spanish and lived in South America, and studied Spanish lit in college, yet still want a big ass wall between us and Mexico.

>>16851146
>I’m fluent in Spanish and lived in South America, and studied Spanish lit in college
That does not make you useful

>>16849836
based but actually marx would agree with all of that have you read him

>>16850057
>/pol/ has a defined set of beliefs which acts as a mind virus
Make up your own minds.

>>16849771
i don’t know about the ‘average’ litizen, but for myself
>came in 2015 as a young 20’s radical left
>start reading philosophy and literature
>became deradicalized, more nuanced and appreciative view of the world

feels good man.

>>16851505

No, but it's information that is useful to him and his family.