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Well what did this Protagoras say.

>>16747001
>implying Socrates would have a problem with being totally fucking
Please tell correct us because Socrates wipes the floor with Protagoras

>>16747001
Socrates > Plato > Aristotle

>Heidegger identifies Socrates as the “purest thinker of the West” (Heidegger 1968: 17), and it is this classification as a “pure thinker” that we are committed to unpacking as it relates to Socrates’ understanding and practice of his dialectic method, his view of “truth,” and his understanding of philosophy (or thinking) as a process of original learning (paideia). Socrates, in his ever-renewed quest for truth, observes Heidegger, is courageously “drawn to what withdraws,” and when this happens to a thinker in the process of authentically thinking, he is drawn into “the enigmatic and herefore mutable nearness of its appeal,” despite being “far away from what withdraws” and even though “the withdrawal may remain as veiled as ever” (Heidegger 1968, 17). This, as we explain constitutes or instantiates for Heidegger the “living context” of thinking, a context facilitating the “draft” of the dynamic counter-striving of lighting and concealing, and Socrates, according to Heidegger, did “nothing else than place himself into this draft, this current, and maintain himself in it,” and this is why, according to Heidegger he was the purest thinker of the West (Heidegger 1968: 17).


>Kiekegaard said ”The knowledge that he knew nothing is not at all the pure, empty nothing one usually takes it to be, but the nothingness of the determinate content of the world as it is. The knowledge of the negativity of all finite content is his wisdom, through which he is drawn into himself, and he expresses this exploration of his own inwardness as his absolute goal, as the beginning of infinite knowledge, yet merely the beginning since this consciousness has nowise been consummated but IS only the negation of everything established in a finite sense”. Also Kierkegaard wrote, “He admittedly freed the single individual from every presupposition, freed him as he himself was free”.
>“Instead of speculatively setting his negativity to rest, he set it far more to rest in the eternal unrest in which he repeated the same process with each single individual. In all this, however, that which makes him into a personality is precisely irony… Naturally this [Socrates’ claim of knowing nothing] conceals a polemic and dismays anyone who has found his repose in one or another finite relation to the divine”.

https://medium.com/@edwardliguori/kierkegaards-view-on-socrates-and-its-relevance-to-modernity-403bb3c1a66
https://philosophy.tabrizu.ac.ir/article_9433_cd416ca3cda1374115faa0a437a0729c.pdf

>>16747035
flat earther retard like you

>>16747092
Ah.
I’m certainly not a flat earther. Epicurus wasn’t either

>>16747110
>When Epicurus was writing in about 300 BCE, the shape of the Earth was still up for debate. Since flatness was consistent with the rest of Epicurus’ philosophy, that was what he went with. And this wasn’t his only cosmological infelicity.

>If so, and if for some reason the earth’s motion is slower in a downward direction than that of objects on or near its surface — because, say, the earth is disk-shaped, as Epicurus held, and hence sinks more slowly in the surrounding atomic medium, like a falling leaf — then Epicurus could explain as well why things like stones tend to fall to the earth’s surface when let go.

Detail: Plato already asserted the Earth and ALL celestial bodies as spheres. Likewise did Pythagoras 300 years before Epicurus, and again, this was already a thing with the Egyptians, millenia before Epicurus.

>>16747110
>>16747174
you don't even read what you post

>>16747074
Diogenes was king followed by Epicurus. Also, your list is backwards.

>>16747035
>>16747056
Is man not the measure of all things?

>>16747035
It's not the wind that blows on you but how you react to it.

>>16747174
I'm actually convinced that Plato was pretty close to finding Newton's laws of gravity in the Timaeus, he just got a bit confused with the universals of heavy and light, but comes to the conclusion that earth wants to be with in the middle of earth and that there is no up and down on a sphere, it is defined by gravity.

>>16747001
You sound like someone who was unironically excited for Hillary Clinton

>>16747773
I voted Bernie, cretin.

>>16747833
Based, me too

>>16747833
>>16747839
YOU VOTED TRUMP INTO OFFICE

>>16747839
>>16747833
Typical sophist

>>16747935
Libtards running a reprehensible candidate Trump into office

>>16747337
>Diogenes
>Epicurus
>two greatest Greek thinkers
Why don't you cum in the street then nigger?

tfw you realize that Socrates was literally just another sophist to athenians and we only think of him highly today, because Plato decided to circlejerk about him.

>>16747001
His method was fallacious but he was definitely better than the sophists. Kindly fuck off.

Quite literally today. Working on a paper on this exact subject and as I keep trying to support Socrates I keep seeing how flawed my argument really is

>>16747001
>totally fucking wrong
This is your mind on capitalism. Dulled by the need for utility in all things.

>>16748115
BASED PUBLIC COOMING

>>16747367
Blow me.

>>16748162
What are your exact issues?

I realized that socrates was fucking wrong last week, the sophist could eat shit though.

>>16747074
>he is drawn into “the enigmatic and herefore mutable nearness of its appeal,” despite being “far away from what withdraws” and even though “the withdrawal may remain as veiled as ever”
what in the absolute FUCK does this mean
Heidegger quotes always filter me so fucking hard

After reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

>>16747074
>Kierkegaard
relying on nazi and depressed christian arm chair intellectuals doesn't help your cause

>>16748146
He literaly wasn't a sophist because he didn't charge for his lectures.

>>16750900
gay pedos prefer other currencies

Socrates: I know nothing
Also Socrates: Know thyself
Hmmmm

>>16748146
>he never read Xenophon

I pity you, uncultured anon