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Why do so many modern female authors especially in SF/F/YA write about gay male relationships? Why is there so much in comparison to them writing about Lesbian relationships?

>> No.16656343

Because they are fujos.
I’m a bi and guy on guy can be pretty hot. Have you seen traps these days?

>> No.16656360

>>16656329
Wager something to do with modern man being demythologized in character which presents little interest in exploration for the modern females inner psyche. Women probably find it deeply intriguing why gay males would disregard their essence.

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>>16656343
This, far more women are fujos than they let on. Most girls like watching guys kiss and have sex as much as guys like watching girls kiss and have sex. This is actually the source of “lesbians” who identify as “non-binary”, they’ve usually fetishised yaoi so much that they wish they could be a twink, a bit like reverse-gender troomers.

>> No.16656591

Some authors can’t help but do a lot of self insert. Others are hyper conscious of this and run the other way. Women writers especially don’t usually want to write about themselves.
I’m sure a lot of these women have fallen for a guy they later find out is gay, and it just intrigues them and spices up a story

>> No.16656595

Those are the only men they can't manipulate

>> No.16656611

>>16656329
same reason guys like lesbians? cause it's hot to watch

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OP here, I think what feels off to me is that so many of these authors nowadays are complaining about the lack of "own voices" in fiction so I guess it feels kind of hypocritical?

>> No.16656656

>>16656611
yea no. I never understood some guy's fascination with girl on girl action. It's kind of pathetic from my perspective.

>> No.16656696

Japanese influence through yaoi/shounen-ai works that freed a latent potential in Western female authors.

>> No.16656711

Even women know that male-male relationships are superior.

>> No.16656712

>>16656329
To an extent the same reason why straight men theoretically find the idea lesbians appealing, it's a doubling up of what they find attractive. (At least when idealized.) Women also tend to view gay men as what they wish straight men would be, more sensitive and emotionally aware, subject to the same dynamics women are in some cases. Little of that is true by the way, but my theory is that straight women especially feel like gay men are a way for them to inhabit the mind of a man in a way that makes more sense to them personally than a straight guy.

>> No.16656736

>>16656656
This

>> No.16656742

>>16656712
>Women also tend to view gay men as what they wish straight men would be, more sensitive and emotionally aware
Women who say this are fucking liars unless they're self-aware enough to know they just want a guy who isn't a robot but still has balls.

>> No.16656744

>>16656656
It’s running away from self inserts.
Like, you watch porn and self insert as the dick? They hate that. Right?
Maybe you see it as self annihilation and see them as pathetic, but maybe they see you as suspect. A homo. Ha nm, not trying to insult

>> No.16656755

>>16656742
Women want a variety’s of different kinds of guys. They’re not always interested in an overpowering abuser.
They ones that like the gay stuff want a sensitive guy.

>> No.16656774

People's made-up "look at me" sexualities are so embarrassing. You're either straight or you're larping.

>> No.16656780

>>16656742
Not that guy but that's part of the yaoi thing I think. If the characters were going after women their sensitivity would be unattractive

>> No.16657019
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>>16656774

>> No.16657120

>>16657019
I'm not even expanding this .gif to view it. You are a larping attention whore and your "sexuality" is nothing but an attempt to differentiate yourself from other girls. Rot bitch.

>> No.16657140

>>16656534
The topic of girl-on-girl and man-on-man once came up in mixed company, and although pretty much every man thought girl-on-girl was hot, most of the women thought man-on-man wasn't that enticing. Do you think there's some sort of pressure on women not expressing their affinity for man-on-man action?

>> No.16657161

>>16656774
i dunno how to tell you this dude but you're gay

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>>16657120
I kept it hidden from anonymous for years

>> No.16657176

>>16657161
Have sex incel.

>> No.16657177

>>16656755
>>16657019
I see you post a lot of classic children's literature, including pictures of World Masterpiece Anime. Butterfly, the reality is you are a whore, and your soul is not pure or innocent to capture the brilliance and radiance of these tranquil and serene artwork. Your heart is wretched and black, much like a carnal Jew's, and you should stop making a mockery out of the sacred literature of light. I recommend acknowledging the despicable nature of your heart and read more surrealist and horror literature. Something like Maldoror and Bataille are more up your ally, bitch. You disgusting, lascivious Jew.
You are a prostitute in mentality and should stop corrupting these holy art pieces. You are a dumb bitch. If we lived 200 years ago, you would have rightfully been lashed by the priests in the streets. It is the only remedy for whores such as yourself.

>> No.16657190

>>16657176
and there's nothing wrong with being gay but the sooner you accept it the sooner you can get on with your idiot life

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>>16657177
That’s hardly the “reality”, little lad. This is your own fetishized hangups projecting and blackening your own “soul”, such as it is.

>> No.16657240

>>16657200
You do realize Astrid Lindgren wouldn't like you either, correct?
You're a dumb bitch, and I think you're secretly a Jew. You are like a Susan Sontag who's trying to come across as an angel when in reality you're a demon with a loose, floppy vagina with eyes of fiery red and a heart of sable.

>> No.16657268

>>16656656
How is it pathetic

>> No.16657366

>>16657200
>fetishized hangups
This from the femoid who pretends to be a lesbian while tripfagging, all for attention. Just take a dick you dumbass. Leave the rest of us alone.

>> No.16657379

>>16657240
>imagines my genitalia
You think Lundgren would prefer you now? I can’t imagine why you think we wouldn’t get along.
And accusing me of being a jew? You’re an antisemite. I don’t think I’m even going to get around to reading anymore Sontag. So much ill projection. You don’t understand me at all

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>>16657366
It annoys because I think people like Butterfly want to turn literary communities into degenerate clubs like queer weeb gatherings (webm related). She doesn't even talk about literature much, and her primary concern revolves around shaming straight males and spreading progressivist propaganda.

>> No.16657412

>>16657395
Naw, you be you, but better versions of you.
The “shaming” is in defense. Troll culture has bred you all into angsty malcontents and you spend your days bitching at each other. I try to help you see an alternative. Not turn you gay obviously.

>> No.16657431

>>16656329
Because modern feminism is about deligitimising male sexuality. Any expression of it is now derided as "objectification," "misogyny" or "male privilege."

>> No.16657436

>>16657431
And the irony is that they all want to get choked the fuck out during sex

>> No.16657446

>>16657412
>blah blah blah reply to me
(you)

>> No.16657449

>>16657412
>Troll culture has bred you all into angsty malcontents
This is rich coming from you

>> No.16657484

>>16657431
>I can’t be a man without treating women as object or livestock
>I can’t be a man without hating all women, including my own mother, and denigrating any and all their contributions to the betterment of the world
>I can’t be a man with women trying to be treated EQUALLY *shudders*
Your ideal of male-hood is fucked up.

This is the why women dream about gay men. More of them are nicer to them. (Though not all)

>>16657449
It’s the truth of anonymous troll culture. Of course a name user would prefer not to be one of you. Do you even know what that turn of phrase means?

>> No.16657494

>>16657484
Gay men and trannies are some of the most misogynistic people on the planet.

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>>16657494

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>>16657484
You have no notion of my idea of malehood, just a bunch of cliched shit you just made up.

>> No.16657606

>>16657484
Don't try to deploy rhetorical terms when you haven't even mastered basic grammar in your native language. Despite that, continue to sperg out and bait (you)s with nonsensical comments while blaming it on anons.

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>>16657581
Just what I gathered from that post.
I don’t even know if you’re him. Bye.

>> No.16657660

>>16657608
>Bye
Yes, do fuck off. One less tripfag in a thread is always a benefit.

>> No.16657682

Women don't understand the transparencies of their own behavior. Using the trip makes her recognizable, people mock her because they recognize her, and she pretends not to like it and "bye" out of threads. But of course she loves the (male) attention, and if she didn't, she wouldn't trip and we would have no idea she was a woman. Grow up butters.

>> No.16657734

>>16657682
Oh hey. Here’s your (You)
I don’t care about “attention”. I’m here for conversation and recognizing my posts is mostly for me. Following your thoughts is hard enough
“Bye-ing” is a barb against your stupid anonymous troll cult. It’s for /b/. Always has been.
>grow up
Says the childish male posting from his mother’s converted garage

>> No.16658046

Gay men are the perfect men

Straight men are dumb, violent, unhygienic, boring and uncultured

>> No.16658209

>>16657484
I want to fucking eviscerate you. God damn, I'd love to just do terrible things. I want you begging for more, begging to slurp up cock you disgusting little tranny cunt. I want you to slobber all over cocks and admit that you're a deranged little pseud cunt who just gets off on pretending to be smart, knowing that instead she's a dumb little cumslut like the rest of them. Oh I know you just post here because you love getting insulted. Deep down you know your place, it's on your knees, with cum dripping from your gaping asshole and your shitty 50 cent eyeliner running down your slutty little stubbled face

>> No.16658221

>>16658046
>t. has never met a bear or a daddy dom
dude fags can be fuckin' dumb violent and unhygenic too. Ususally it's a fetish.

>> No.16658263

>>16657379
bish is lindgren

>> No.16658303

>>16658263
Ja tack!

>> No.16658437

>>16657484
>>16657412
Holy shit, this is a literature forum, you dumb bitch. Why don't you talk more about literature? Whenever I see your posts, it's either about political propaganda or personal sexual matters. All it does is make people resent you.

>> No.16658470

>>16658437
—> >>16656591 >>16656744 >>16656755
the thread you are posting in is about sexual matters. A conversation started up because of it.
Where is you blame for that anon above partaking in this conversation?

>> No.16658484

>>16658470
I clicked it because I liked the image of the OP. I'm just remarking on the fact you never really talking about literature outside of these kind of topics. You cannot derive meaning in life outside of your obsession with sensuality or political nonsense. If you don't want people to figure this stuff about you, then drop the tripfag, dumb whore.
I want you to be honest with me here. Are you Jewish or not? You look Ashkenazi to me.

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>>16657734
Kill yourself fucking freak

>> No.16658503

>>16658484
>You like reading things you like
>...are you jewish?
I am not.

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>>16658497
Please delete this, from here and your HD

>> No.16658532

>>16658503
You completely ignored my point.
You are a lying and disingenuous bitch.
I think deep down you like this attention.
Also, it's not just me. Plenty of people here despise your guts. Why don't you drop the tripfag? If I were a woman, I would be scared as fuck and drop the tripfag.
You're a dumb whore, and I know for sure
Frances Hodgson Burnett, Tove Jansson, Beatrix Potter, Kenneth Grahame, and all the great Western children's book writers would despise your presence.
Fuck off. Drop the tripfag and actually start having meaningful discussions about literature, you attention-seeking whore.

>> No.16658545

>>16656534
This, you go to the detransition forum on reddit and there are countless posts by formerly trans-identifying women talking about how ‘yaoi’ and internalized misogyny are what fucked them up. It’s incredibly sad

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>>16658532
Anonymity isn’t very conducive for discussing literature. It’s tailor made for trolling and shitposting.
I would probably get along rather well with all of these people. You read me so poorly.

>> No.16658615

>>16658551
I'm done. You have a serious cognitive style problem, and I feel no sympathy when people insult you.

>> No.16658627

>>16658615
SIE and Ketj are two different trips

>> No.16658677

>>16658627
On occasion, since the code-break, but not at the moment

>> No.16659165

>>16656360
This "demythologized" point makes sense to me, women are always bitching that men aren't "life tough" anymore, especially nerd women who couldn't even handle one.

>> No.16659895

I dislike what's going on in this thread. Way to throw a potentially interesting subject matter out of the window.

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>>16656711
best post

>> No.16661212

>>16659895
I think it's been very illustrative, actually. An attention-seeking "lesbian" monopolized a thread about men to get attention from men for herself, revealing the truth of all non-straight orientations, that is, that they don't exist.

>> No.16661545

>>16657140
Nope. Women get turned on by watching animals fuck

>> No.16661605

/lit/ is really the dumbest board on 4channel. every few months my revulsion starts fading and i come back here, thinking it can't really be as bad as i remember it. within 5 mins of coming back here i remember exactly why i left. take a look at this thread for example, half this thread is anons worshipping this board's signature namefag tranny who still isn't banned. hopeless case. i guess books are outdated in 2020 and the actually smart people have grown out of reading.

>> No.16661630

>>16656656
Same, its boring as fuck. However they do facesitting way better than straight women for some reason, way more aggressive.

>> No.16661643

>>16661605
>who still isn't banned
'she' is/was a jannie

>> No.16661653

>>16661643
i have never seen a single namefag tranny singlehandedly destroy the quality of a board before this. truly a shame because it wasn't even a year or half a year ago that you came across quality discussions that eclipsed the rest of the internet.

>> No.16661656

>>16661643
I thought it was a bit weird when yesterday's thread about someguyTM refuting Peterson suddenly got deleted when people started writing Peterson x Butters smut

>> No.16661702

>>16657412
Go fuck yourself

>> No.16661717

>>16661653
The tripfag has crashed threads in the last years as well but due to Corona it has gotten more excessive. I use 4chanX to filter it but the discussion is still getting worse.

>>16661656
Apparently Horia Belcea (not even worth pirating, has been shilled a few months ago) is also affiliated with the jannies.
It's all so tiresome.

>> No.16661939

>>16656591
Kys tranny

>> No.16662456

Can't be fucked to read the whole thread
>>16656329
This is not exclusive to authors. The western homosexual always travels with a whole retinue of sycophantic white women. I've heard that this is because gays are the only ones who make them seem dignified by comparison.

>> No.16662817

>responding to tripfag
Just filter it I thought you guys were supposed to be the board of 105 iq geniuses

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https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/02/dont_settle_for_the_man_you_wa.html

>> No.16662855

>>16656329
why do women fetishize gay authors? i.e. mishima, genet

>> No.16662860

>>16662832
Getting 404 on the link

>> No.16663501
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>>16656329
Because deep down gender isn't that important. Humans like to see hot people having sex, the gender of the participants isn't important

>> No.16663523

>>16662832
You guys noticed that the casual but polemical style TLP specialized in and that was very popular has all but disappeared from blogs in the past 5ish years.

>> No.16663576

>>16657268
>the hottest sex is sex between two people who aren't attracted to me and have no interest in me

>> No.16663591

>>16662832
Women want a man who isn't just with her for sex.
They cope with this feel by fetishizing gays

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>install 4chanX
>open settings, go to "Filter", "Tripcode"
>paste this in
/!!oI3er5KKetj/
/!mxvabIoSIE/

>> No.16664375

>>16663576
That's all porn dude.

>> No.16664407

>>16657164
I can't recall a thread where you came out and said it but you've always been clearly addicted to pussysnorting butts.

>> No.16664524

>>16658532
B A S E D
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>> No.16664570

>>16656534
>“lesbians” who identify as “non-binary”
aka married with children by 30
They ain't fooling no one

>> No.16664592

>>16661545
They get turned on by anything sexual, even if they don't enjoy what they are seeing.
Scientist assume it's in preparation for possible rape, as a pre-wetted vagina reduces the damage, allowing women with these attributes better survivability.

>> No.16664913

>>16663576
This doesn't explain fujos for me

>> No.16666756

>>16666666

>> No.16666827

I like to read gay romance novels written by women from time to time. They're unpretentious and usually very positive, unlike many examples from the "serious gay literature".

>> No.16666868

>>16661545
explains their obsession with dogs

>> No.16667455

>>16656329
Straight women love gay guys. They all have or fantasize about having a gay friend, and they think it's cute when two dudes make out or whatever.
Of course they're not going to write about lesbian relationships as much because strait women are, by definition, uninterested in lesbianism.