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Based varg fuck that fat shit hack

>>16657982
Game of what? Who's the fat fuck?

>>16657982
My first impression of the guy. I agree with Varg.

>>16657982
>a neopagan doesnt know about the incest andnoegies pagan did on the regular basis

>>16658006
suck my cock buttercunt
it is already dripping some milk just fo you ;)

>>16658008
>abrahamic slander
Don't you have a little boy to mutilate?

>>16657982
The hobbits are literally an incestuous community, as are the elves. Their communities are so small I fail to see how you could avoid incest. Same thing with the cities of Men. Do you really think in Rohan there is no incest? What a twat. LOTR is guilty of all the things Varg talks about as well.

LOTR is like 12 hours worth of cinematic build up for Sam to suck Frodo.

How can this fucking retard look himself in the mirror? His worldview is LITERALLY from the mind of a Catholic.

>>16658008
these people paradoxically project the sense of virtue and demanding moral standards of Abrahamic faiths into paganism. It's a joke.

>>16658083
Christianity has abandoned those traditional virtues and morals though

Even the pope says gay sex and masturbation is fine now

>>16658079
He unironically believes Tolkien was a closet pagan

>>16658006
based butterfly

>>16658083
And christianity copypasted shit ton of traditions from European faiths. What is your point?

>>16657982
Based murderer

What is wrong with incest or porn? I have never seen any credible source that really proved any negative effects.
Also asoiaf is not HBO's GoT and just because a thing happens in a book doesn't mean th book glorifies it.

>>16658120
I don't have any point, if I want to listen to moralists I go to a priest, not to a failed priest on Twitter.

>>16658120
>be le nordmen
>convert to new religion
>keep aspects of your culture that you can integrate
>1000 years of Christianity* later
>one of your descendants is an autist
>"Nooo the Christians STOLE that from my ANCESTORS WE wuz PAGANS"

*subverted along the way by L*therans and later by "Enl*ghtenment" philosophists e.h.g.o.

>>16658006
For once you're right you stupid fucking tranny

>>16657982
even a retarded clock is right twice a day

>>16658190
>t. catholic larper

>>16658192
Photoshop doesn’t make this wish of yours any truer

>>16658192
>>16658261
I keep trying to see what they changed that made her look like a middle-aged man but the only difference I can find is that they blended her chin so that it looks like she has a double-chin. She's just naturally manly-looking.

Is that why you're a lesbo, butterfly?

>>16658277
I’m a lesbian because I love women

>>16658335
how do i permanently mute you on this website

>>16657982
>i hate christians
>also im the biggest moralfaggot and proponent of slave morality in europe
How does he reconcile his retarded schizo views?

>>16658079
>>16658092
varg will convert to catholicism on his death bed. They all do. Screenshot this post.

>>16659222
>>also im the biggest moralfaggot and proponent of slave morality in europe
Is Varg really that important of a figure? I've only heard of him on 4channel

>>16659311
He is not the most influential moralfag but he has the most moralfaggotry.

>>16658006
Didn't know buttercunt was based.
t. dislike Varg but agree with him on this

I went to Amazon Music and downloaded and listened to a copy of "The Crying Orc." I suffered a great deal in the process. The lyrics were dreadful; the music was terrible. As I listened, I noticed that every time an orc began to cry, Varg screeched instead that the orc "burst into piteous frozen weeping for the lost bloodline of a million forgotten ancestors." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times

>>16659607
The crying orc doesn't even have lyrics though.... Tolkien you hack

>>16657982
FINISH
THE
DAMN
SERIES
YOU
FAT
FUCK

>>16657982
Varg is a degenerate himself. He has no credibility at all to talk shit.

Why the hell does this man think he has any credibility? He literally murdered one of his friends for no reason.

>literature has to appeal to my homegrown morality hurr

And you guys actually swallow this hook and sink, what the fuck has gone wrong with this generation.

>>16657982
Why do I care what a washed up church torcher and amateur musician says?

>>16659838
>He literally murdered one of his friends for no reason
It was self defence

>>16657982
based varg

>>16661191
In my opinion, an autistic murderer-arsonist who lives in the woods is the best place to get your moral ideals from.

>>16661285
he's just a snownigger.

>>16661285
But that was not my point, the point is that literature and art in general should not conform to morality just so some moralfag would feel coddled and pandered to.
Art is about raising emotions and creating/showing different perspectives. That would be stifled if artists started to censor their work just so some people feel more comfortable.
Fuck moralhomos and their sensitive emotions, art is beyond morality.

>>16657982
lmao yeah thats what makes it the american lotr because america is the heart of decadence

>>16657982
Has varg read any of his traditional myths?

>>16658006
based. Varg is retard but even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>16661219
Says Varg.

Its just a man expressing his true self, who the fuck gives a shit about what it means to you. Besides, what made this show so great is the fact that it was set in a different world, you saw shit like dragons, zombies, giants- mythical cool shit. Then you saw real world elements like rape, incest and murder. Common practices of the Middle Ages.

>>16659755
Isnt this the case with all of these moralfaggots?
Most of them rage against vices, but are themself feetfag furry gay trap masterbating faggots or whatever vice they have, drugs or whatever.
Or like priests preaching against infidelity and fucking prostitutes or raping nuns on the side.

>>16658023
Retard. People have always lived in small communities without incest

>>16658006
Varg is the living form of based retardation

>>16658006
Buttercunt don't pretend you haven't seen threads on this guy millions of times in the past.

>>16658091
My brother went to Catholic school says that the Catholic Church was never truly traditional and was always openminded or some such nonsense. Can anyone confirm this?

>>16661191
>Game of Thrones
>art

>>16659746
Oh, is this about me?

>>16658187
It is bad cause i say...i mean, God says so.

>>16658006
Based real Epicurean butters

>>16658092
All British writer have a bit of the pagan in them.

>>16662332
based

>>16662180
>point going over your head
>you adding nothing to the conversation
Here's a (you) you wanted.

Reposting until /lit/ learns to stop enjoying Lord of the Nigs.
>Privately, according to “1937 The Hobbit or There and Back Again,” Tolkien told Unwin he hated Nazi “race-doctrine” as “wholly pernicious and unscientific.” He added he had many Jewish friends and was considering abandoning the idea of a German translation altogether.
>Tolkien also takes a shot at the race policies of Nazi Germany by saying he’s beginning to regret his German surname. “The time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride,” he writes.
>"Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. "
Only pseud man children faggots enjoy it. Stop reading it. Varg is exposing himself as a pseud here and shouldn't be listened to on anything. Fuck him and Tolkike.

>>16662385
>I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects
fucking based

>>16662385
back to /pol/
Lord of the Rings is peak fantasy worldbuilding

>>16662385
>I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects.
Holy based

>>16658006
you're alright sometimes butterfag

>>16662398
>>16662417
he's being pedantic as fuck, his own good friend Owen Barfield wrote an entire book about Indo-European and English using the word Aryan.

>>16662385
Incredibly based quote

>>16659746
I don't even care anymore. I'll just reread lotr for the 3rd time instead

>>16662427
>pedantic
is there a word more full of cope than this?

>>16662427
>Le our hindu ancestors
Go fuck yourself cunt.

>>16662442
Are you actually too stupid to understand what the indo-europeans are? Or just too stupid to understand that the word Aryan was used to refer to them and all their descendants, which includes Persians and Europeans

>>16659607
kek

>>16662463
>European
>Descendents
Huh?

>>16662764
Europeans are descendants of the proto-Indo-Europeans, the name is literally made up of Indo and European to indicate the biggest branches. there is not even a shadow of possibility that Tolkien didn't know the word Aryan was being used to mean indo-european here, he was just being a tool.

> American version

> adds systematic degeneracy

Sounds about right.

>>16658187
Fuck off with your scientism. There's an epidemic of teenage boys suffering from erectile dysfunction. Every single rapist and child molester has a porn addiction.

>>16658187
www.yourbrainonporn.com
>>16662174
Honestly I'd avoid organized religion and build a personal relationship with God

>>16662861
>personal relationship with God
kek

>>16662840
If I allow myself to armchair psychology for a second I'd imagine it has to do with porn making you conceive of your sexual partner as an object, since the act of viewing porn involves no interaction, it's just some abstract entity you observe superficially to arouse yourself. Abuse is similarly based around viewing the person as an object imo.

It might not be causative though, just the same sorts of people are prone to both. It probably doesn't exactly help though.

>>16662174
Maybe the faggot schools.

>>16657982
George RR Martin's arrogant, cynical, liberal atheist worldview prevents him from transcending pulp fiction.

>>16662174
This is largely true. It was never open minded, per se, but it was always extraordinarily tolerant, both a millennium ago and within the past century. In its official documents, the Catholic Church can be relied upon to condemn degeneracy, but in its practices it can be relied upon to either tacitly or openly permit degeneracy. In the several centuries of the Spanish inquisition, there were only a few dozen sodomites executed, and they were likely all child molesters. In renaissance Italy, no one ever cared about all the gay artists. I suppose it's simply the result of being a large institution, you end up tolerating things simply for the sake of being large.

>>16662768
By definition, being a tool is based.

>>16657982
>cultivation
>appreciation
Not that I care what a convicted murderer has to say about this, but let's make one thing clear here. The world of ASOIAF is not a world I want to live in. The fact that he thinks Martin is promoting the values of that shithole tells you more about the mind of Kristian Vikernes than what he tries to critisise.

>>16662433
Same, probably. I didn't watch the TV show 'cause I was waiting for the series to finish, and now so much time has passed that I'd have to re-read the series just to remember what the fuck was going on. Ignoring the whole shit seems like the better option.

>>16661551
Ahahahahahaha

>>16659238

>>16661471
It was an adolescent-tier rivalry that ended in homicide. Happens every day and other than setting fire to a church it's about all this twit ever did. He's from a tiny country that is some of the comfiest places on earth in every way. Of course edgy larpers come from there.

>>16661395
Art can be moral or not, but it still has to deal with reactions to it. There's a difference between the Iron Gates and Burroughs, the latter has humor and a conscious use of transgression to point out the myth of transgressive sex, while the former is just a litany of extremes without any purpose.
One comments on the human condition, the other is just edgy dorkiness.

>>16661505
>Common practices of the Middle Ages.

>>16661536
It's just a facet of fascism along with looking backwards

>>16662174
Mate if your opinion of a worldwide organization that's been around for thousands of years can be shaped by knowing one person who went to a school they run, your brain is plasticine.
The Catholic church has given up on the richer parts of the world, which are all moving towards fascism and evangelical narcissism. It's poors who fill churches and Africa, South America are the big oceans of the future membership.
Long term all religion is doomed.

>>16662385
That last quote is edited.

>>16661536
>>16665012
>reeee you must be a perfect paragon of your ideology in order for it to be valid
this is like boomers dunking on communists by smugly telling them to throw their iphones away, top cringe

>>16665074
>this is like boomers dunking on communists by smugly telling them to throw their iphones away
you mean divinely based?

>>16662385
wtf I love Tolkien now

>>16658023
literally nothing wrong with marrying your first cousin

>>16658023
you don't have detailed descriptions of twins having sex in lotr

GRRM is not the American Tolkien because he does not write about America. Tolkien is what he is because he writes of the history, mythology and folklore of Britain and Europe. He writes European fantasy. GRRM writes European fantasy as well, aping Tolkien.

A true American Tolkien would write a novel that had American history, mythology and folklore. Less knights and dragons; more cowboys, outlaws, pirates, conmen, revolutionaries, hillbillies, oilmen, puritans, celebrities, bikers, mafiosos, jazz singers, cops, and wrestlers.

>>16666262
That is a fantastic fucking idea. I'm on it

>>16666262
Americans come from Europe too you know, Tolkien is just as much my heritage as it is there. I hate the idea that America just sprouted up from nowhere and it's its own self-contained thing. It's not.

>>16666306
European folklore is definitively pre-modern while American folklore is modern.

You're an American? It almost sounds like you're ashamed of your own New World mythology. I'm a Euro but I love the colonial world and colonial history. True American fantasy has such an interesting appeal but it hasn't really been truly popularised yet.

>>16666262
Or, you know, Native American folklore

GoT for the sake of "realism" crunches a lot of scarring and traumatic incidents in 1 kingdom within a much shorter timespan than what it wouldve actually been like in the middle ages outside of the worst wave of black plague. Like a very fast paced modern view of what 'bad times' would be like projected onto the past because our sense of time and scale is so much more warped than how middle ages people sensed and viewed time.

>>16666338
Yeah dude just imagine oil barons secretly being mind control sorcerers, the stereotypical inn scene but it's set in a bayou, the fucking literary legs that conspiracy theories would play, the access to lovecraft and poe for the darker themes, it's a new frontier of literature that's fast approaching

>>16666338
The American soul is plagued by rootlessness and alienation. It's no coincidence that so much of our folklore is about drifters, outlaws, and people on the fringe of society. We all perceive ourselves as such. I see what you're getting at though.

>>16666338
>>16666367
you guys ever see the post-apocalyptic America mod for Crusader Kings II? It sounds goofy I know but it was really cool, involving amish kingdoms and machine cults and arguing over who has the rightful claim to the presidency.
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/After_the_End

How is this guy's music not degenerate?

>>16662385
should I be angry he doesn't agree with nazi ideas? fuck off

who the fuck cares what either of these fat fucks think? fuck off.

>>16666553
>>16666567
twins

>>16666574
fuck off

>>16666587
you fuck off samefag

>>16666598
you first nigger

>>16662784
this
>its lotr but degenerate
Literally the american lotr

i love books

>>16662169
I have. Back in the 90s I shoplifted a book of his, read four or five chapters in, and took it back to the store. I never liked the guy

>>16665739

>>16668139
cousins do not share enough DNA for first generation incest to be deleterious and could even be beneficial where desirable traits are preserved or expressed by recessive interactions

>>16668147
This stuff is in the books because it’s a kink

>>16657982
Tolkien focusses on fantasy and writes around censorship. Martin focusses on reality and writes free from censors about how medievil people in war times behaved.

>>16657982
Is Varg the right wing social media whore or the left wing social media whore? Why do they and Vaush have similar handles?

>>16657982
I just don't see the connection between reading about incest, patricide, treason ect and then committing those acts irl. When Harry potter came out did you notice a massive rise in witchcraft?
It's the same argument soccer moms have against violent video games that have no factual standing.

>>16668767
>Why do they and Vaush have similar handles?

>>16668895
Vargsh :^O